I think Xbox is seeing the writing on the walls…and has their mindset made on exclusivity. If you are a publishing company - yes - that is a bit antiquated as game development cost is insanely high for AAA games…and you want the biggest audience to buy your products. But if you are a hardware company than the philosophy that Nintendo has is sound. You want to give people a reason to play your games. Nintendo has done a pretty good job of using some platforms as a springboard to switch (mobile) and the only thing I think they could change is getting some lesser known titles out there on other platforms to raise brand awareness…or offer them elsewhere after a certain amount if time. But I can’t argue with their core principles.
I’m confused by the Zelda notes comment. So is it bad in both versions? It sounds like it’s a nice addition in TOTK but awful in BOTW based on the score comments
If the argument here is “fun” based - I actually get a bit of a kick of the most absurd death animations. If anything, I wish that they would allow you to watch the complete fall in BOTW or TOTK before fading to a black game over screen.
So I did some research looking at US household income in 1985 vs 2025 and this is what I found:
1985 $23620 avg household income $8220 avg annual house payment $3401 avg taxes $968 avg food $840 gas
With NES $200, that’s roughly $200 of remaining pay
In 2025 $82886 avg household income $12018 avg taxes $26700 avg house payments $9985 avg food $2449 avg gas
So a $500 switch is apx 1.6% of total remaining income and a bit cheaper than the NES.
Of course this doesn’t account for the large increase in other potential expenses that are now vying for our attention (phone, internet, streaming, etc) but for the frugal minded it appears we have a little more disposable income in the states.
It would be nice if we got a companion article showing what the average persons disposable income has been around these launches…not just salary but how much does the average person/family have that year.
Two questions… 1) Have they confirmed that all switch 1 upgraded games will be free of charge if you have the premium online membership? Or is that just Zelda?
2) How much will the new upgraded games be? And if we are looking to save a few dollars, can we buy the switch 1 version on a discount/sale or with the Nintendo game vouchers to get as a cheaper base price than buying the game with additional content for $80 say for Kirby?
@VoidofLight $80 is not the standard. The new DK Game will be $69. I think Nintendo is going to expand on the TOTK philosophy and price things on perceived value. $80 doesn’t seem that bad if you are putting 200 hrs into it vs a $60 game that lasts 20, or seeing a 2 hr movie for $15.
I have a 2 and 4 year old - I’ve found Clubhouse games to be the most playable with them. They love to flick the bowling ball or play a little air hockey.
If I were a betting man, I would side with Nintendo. Aren’t they undefeated in winning lawsuits? They have a top tier law team and surely a lot more money to fight this than Pocketpair. If I were Nintendo I would go after ongoing royalties vs a flat fee but will see how it all shakes out.
Startropics. At the time it was a bit of a Zelda rip-off but I’ve always felt there is so much more the franchise could do. Earthbound needs a fully 3D game - I remember the Earthbound 64DD screen shots back in the day…
@marsbitrona I’ve seen other video game websites ask common people about video game consoles…no one seemed to know what a Wii U was and Nintendo also never showed the console in any advertising, leading some to believe it was a pricey accessory.
E3 was great for what it was - some major big announcements, Miyamoto’s playful showings, celebrities. But it looks to me that it became too costly and companies must be thinking - why spend all this money once a year, fighting over each other to get press, when we can control the message, make announcements when we are ready, and speak directly to the hardcore audiences at a fraction of the cost?
@SteveDaSteve haha. That would be funny if this is the way to an A. They should do a followup article once the class is finished. Curious to see what the winning formula is.
IMO Nintendo is the king of teaching people core concepts in a more subliminal way without beating players over the head. From these games to Super Metroid (explaining the story without saying a word, creatures showing you how to wall jump without telling you)…several other examples of this design philosophy in place.
@KBuckley27 right but the ps5 is newer…and switch has outpaced ps5 sales during the same period. The Switch is having the best year 7 of any console ever released. Pretty amazing a 7 year old console with older tech can keep pace with ps5.
-Local split screen multiplayer option on one console -New multiplayer modes - would be cool if they take a page from goldeneye - proximity mines, single shot kills, deadly weapons available in the levels -multiple team battles - would be neat to see every primary color represented in battle, and have some color bleeds on areas that are very thinly represented by a color - that requires multiple coats to get the color into your teams colors -pre splatted levels - maybe have levels laid out with multiple colors - each team has to find ink to mix with the level layout to convert the color back to their teams represented color -expanded 1P mode and added customization…another species would be cool as well.
The reason the PS2 sold so many units was because Sony kept it on the market for 12 years. The Switch has outpaced the ps2 for most of its lifespan….it took the ps2 9 years to sell 139M - Nintendo is on pace to do this in 7. If Nintendo keeps the system active until at least end of 2025 - I don’t see why it wouldn’t pass PS2. The holidays are sure to give them a boost - maybe 8M that quarter. Which would put it around 140M by end of year. Next year they will be around 150M and 2025 - looking at 155M.
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Re: Super Mario Galaxy Movie Trailer Reveals Rosalina, Bowser Jr., And More
@ChessboardMan yeah it looks like the Desert level to me.
Re: "These Shouldn't Be The Only Games Being Made" - Keiji Inafune Critical Of Reliance On Big IPs
I agree with what he’s saying - often new IPs that are successful are from a sense of trying new things vs being iterative.
But it’s also ironic that all his recent projects are a rehash of his most successful IP….
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Isn't Convinced Another IP Will Surpass Mario Kart's Sales
How about GTA 6?
Re: "Go Tell Nintendo" - Ex-Blizzard President Responds After Xbox Calls Exclusives "Antiquated"
I think Xbox is seeing the writing on the walls…and has their mindset made on exclusivity. If you are a publishing company - yes - that is a bit antiquated as game development cost is insanely high for AAA games…and you want the biggest audience to buy your products. But if you are a hardware company than the philosophy that Nintendo has is sound. You want to give people a reason to play your games. Nintendo has done a pretty good job of using some platforms as a springboard to switch (mobile) and the only thing I think they could change is getting some lesser known titles out there on other platforms to raise brand awareness…or offer them elsewhere after a certain amount if time. But I can’t argue with their core principles.
Re: Opinion: Silksong's Soundtrack Rules, But You Should Turn It Off
Couldn’t you just ask the flight attendant for a pair of cheap earbuds?
Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Reminds Me Of Gears 5, And It's Making Me Nervous
I think if they can turn it into a Road Warrior type section of sorts, it could be a cool addition to the Metroid cannon. Will see how it turns out.
Re: Feature: Jump, Man - A Celebration Of The Greatest Jumps In Gaming
You should write an actual article about the most memorable jumps in games.
For me Super Mario bros level 8-3 was the most palm sweating jump I remember.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Forsaken (N64)
Kind of an odd comment to say a game released 20 years ago was ripped from Death Stranding…lol
Re: Poll: When The Heck Is Metroid Prime 4 Actually Launching?
I don’t know why anyone would launch a game in December and miss out on the Black Friday shoppers.
Re: Nintendo Will Discontinue Switch Game Vouchers Entirely In 2026
Would it make sense to use on Switch 1 version of Prime and Pokémon? Then get the free upgrade, if it is free to switch 2?
Re: Feature: Every Switch 2 Launch Game, Ranked
I’m confused by the Zelda notes comment. So is it bad in both versions? It sounds like it’s a nice addition in TOTK but awful in BOTW based on the score comments
Re: Dbrand Admits Its Joy-Con Detachment Response Was "Spectacularly Terrible"
I wonder much does this company make in sales annually? When they say mass produce - is that 1000? I don’t know how they stay in business.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A's Switch 2 And Switch 1 Prices Have Been Revealed
So will there be a free upgrade if you buy on Switch 1?
Re: A Video Showing The Switch 2's Boot Screens Has Been Shared Online
Removed
Re: Yes, You Can Adjust The Camera In Mario Kart World
I thought you could adjust the camera back in Mario kart 64? So not really a new feature?
Re: Opinion: It's Time To Get Rid Of Fall Damage
If the argument here is “fun” based - I actually get a bit of a kick of the most absurd death animations. If anything, I wish that they would allow you to watch the complete fall in BOTW or TOTK before fading to a black game over screen.
Re: Talking Point: How Does Switch 2's Launch Price Compare To Past Nintendo Systems?
So I did some research looking at US household income in 1985 vs 2025 and this is what I found:
1985
$23620 avg household income
$8220 avg annual house payment
$3401 avg taxes
$968 avg food
$840 gas
With NES $200, that’s roughly $200 of remaining pay
In 2025
$82886 avg household income
$12018 avg taxes
$26700 avg house payments
$9985 avg food
$2449 avg gas
So a $500 switch is apx 1.6% of total remaining income and a bit cheaper than the NES.
Of course this doesn’t account for the large increase in other potential expenses that are now vying for our attention (phone, internet, streaming, etc) but for the frugal minded it appears we have a little more disposable income in the states.
Re: Talking Point: How Does Switch 2's Launch Price Compare To Past Nintendo Systems?
It would be nice if we got a companion article showing what the average persons disposable income has been around these launches…not just salary but how much does the average person/family have that year.
Re: Community: What Questions About Switch 2 Do You Still Have For Nintendo?
Two questions…
1) Have they confirmed that all switch 1 upgraded games will be free of charge if you have the premium online membership? Or is that just Zelda?
2) How much will the new upgraded games be? And if we are looking to save a few dollars, can we buy the switch 1 version on a discount/sale or with the Nintendo game vouchers to get as a cheaper base price than buying the game with additional content for $80 say for Kirby?
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@Dimey I’m in the US so forgot that the June 9th pre order tariff delay was more of a US announcement.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@Ogbert how are they able to pre order?
Re: "DROP THE PRICE!!!" Scream Nintendo Fans During Nintendo's Treehouse Live Broadcast
@VoidofLight $80 is not the standard. The new DK Game will be $69. I think Nintendo is going to expand on the TOTK philosophy and price things on perceived value. $80 doesn’t seem that bad if you are putting 200 hrs into it vs a $60 game that lasts 20, or seeing a 2 hr movie for $15.
Re: "DROP THE PRICE!!!" Scream Nintendo Fans During Nintendo's Treehouse Live Broadcast
So all these people complaining - why not just get the bundle? Are you planning to get Mario kart after launch? $50 game in the bundle.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Mario's Picross
I went with NA/EU1. To me it told the most about the genre with all the boxes.
The 2nd one makes me think Mario’s going mining.
The Japan one looks like one giant picross box… not quite as obvious in what the game is vs #1
Re: How Well Do You Remember 2024? Nintendo Life's End-Of-Year Gaming Quiz
The question on where the switch ranks - I didn’t think DS was considered a “console”. Am I wrong? Shouldn’t it be 1st for all “consoles”?
Re: Best Nintendo Switch Games For Kids
I have a 2 and 4 year old - I’ve found Clubhouse games to be the most playable with them. They love to flick the bowling ball or play a little air hockey.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom?
@MiltonHolmes this reminds me of the Scott Steiner math promo…
Re: Analyst Is Certain Nintendo Will Win Its Lawsuit Against Palworld Developer
If I were a betting man, I would side with Nintendo. Aren’t they undefeated in winning lawsuits? They have a top tier law team and surely a lot more money to fight this than Pocketpair. If I were Nintendo I would go after ongoing royalties vs a flat fee but will see how it all shakes out.
Re: Capcom Says It's Always Considering What's Next For Mega Man
I always thought it would be cool to do a 3D isometric type game - similar in style to supper Mario 3D world with more tightly confined levels.
Re: Nintendo Emulator 'Delta' Adds iPad Support With Version 1.6 Update
Can someone explain what the other emulation companies were doing differently that got Nintendo to sue?
Re: Talking Point: Could Another Nintendo Series Take Over The 'Traditional' Zelda Template?
Startropics. At the time it was a bit of a Zelda rip-off but I’ve always felt there is so much more the franchise could do. Earthbound needs a fully 3D game - I remember the Earthbound 64DD screen shots back in the day…
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From The Next Super Mario Bros. Movie?
I would also like to understand the origins to the koopalings. Are they bowsers kids? Did he adopt? Where are they now?
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want To See From The Next Super Mario Bros. Movie?
If they add bowser jr - who will be the mom?
Re: Poll: Do You Want To See 'Super Mario Bros. Wonder 2'?
I think it would be great if we got a drip of DLC for the current wonder before exploring a sequel.
Re: The Pokémon Company Releases Official Statement About Palworld
Interpretation - they will sue if they feel strongly about having a case.
Re: Review: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown (Switch) - Slick, Stylish, And 2024's First Must-Play
How long is the game supposed to be?
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
A few ideas
-Nintendo
-Ultra Switch
-Nintendo Move
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Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
@marsbitrona I’ve seen other video game websites ask common people about video game consoles…no one seemed to know what a Wii U was and Nintendo also never showed the console in any advertising, leading some to believe it was a pricey accessory.
Re: Nintendo Switch "Lifetime US Unit Sales" Surpass Xbox 360
@TanukiTrooper thanks for the update. So it still has a ways to go to dethrone the DS.
Re: Nintendo Switch "Lifetime US Unit Sales" Surpass Xbox 360
So what is the total US number now for the Switch vs PS2 and DS?
Re: E3 Has Been Cancelled, Permanently
E3 was great for what it was - some major big announcements, Miyamoto’s playful showings, celebrities. But it looks to me that it became too costly and companies must be thinking - why spend all this money once a year, fighting over each other to get press, when we can control the message, make announcements when we are ready, and speak directly to the hardcore audiences at a fraction of the cost?
Re: Random: New College Course Is Grading Students On Their Zelda: TOTK Engineering Skills
@SteveDaSteve haha. That would be funny if this is the way to an A. They should do a followup article once the class is finished. Curious to see what the winning formula is.
Re: Soapbox: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time's Kokiri Forest Rivals World 1-1 As A Perfect Intro
IMO Nintendo is the king of teaching people core concepts in a more subliminal way without beating players over the head. From these games to Super Metroid (explaining the story without saying a word, creatures showing you how to wall jump without telling you)…several other examples of this design philosophy in place.
Re: Random: New College Course Is Grading Students On Their Zelda: TOTK Engineering Skills
Regarding the race - couldn’t one team just have a bunch of rockets and a lot of zonai power to win?
Re: Nintendo Switch Has Now Sold Over 132 Million Units
Last holiday season, Nintendo sold over 8M copies…I think they can certainly hit this again this year.
So my prediction has alway been…
2023 - 140M
2024 - 150M
2025 - 155M
The PS2 had support for 12 year, the Switch can outsell it in 9.
Re: Sega's Executive Director Wants Sonic Games And Movies To "Surpass Mario"
@BrazillianCara which is to say - still quite a ways away. Mario movie $1.36B, Sonic 2 $405M.
Re: Japanese Charts: Super Mario Bros. Wonder Absolutely Smashes Its Debut
@KBuckley27 right but the ps5 is newer…and switch has outpaced ps5 sales during the same period. The Switch is having the best year 7 of any console ever released. Pretty amazing a 7 year old console with older tech can keep pace with ps5.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Actraiser
I went with US/UK. I thought the minimalism conveyed a little more mystery whereas the Japan one is overly crammed and a bit cheesy looking.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want From A 'Splatoon 4'?
A few ideas:
-Local split screen multiplayer option on one console
-New multiplayer modes - would be cool if they take a page from goldeneye - proximity mines, single shot kills, deadly weapons available in the levels
-multiple team battles - would be neat to see every primary color represented in battle, and have some color bleeds on areas that are very thinly represented by a color - that requires multiple coats to get the color into your teams colors
-pre splatted levels - maybe have levels laid out with multiple colors - each team has to find ink to mix with the level layout to convert the color back to their teams represented color
-expanded 1P mode and added customization…another species would be cool as well.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Switch Can Catch PS2's Total Sales Before 'Switch 2' Arrives?
The reason the PS2 sold so many units was because Sony kept it on the market for 12 years. The Switch has outpaced the ps2 for most of its lifespan….it took the ps2 9 years to sell 139M - Nintendo is on pace to do this in 7. If Nintendo keeps the system active until at least end of 2025 - I don’t see why it wouldn’t pass PS2. The holidays are sure to give them a boost - maybe 8M that quarter. Which would put it around 140M by end of year. Next year they will be around 150M and 2025 - looking at 155M.