We done good here NLifers. Shame about the dupes. My top 5 Nintendo Published games that didn't make the cut (at time of reading) :
Kid Icarus Uprising ❤️, Conker`s Bad Fur Day (the seminal multiplayer game for the n64 amongst my friends), Skyward Sword (albeit the weakest 3d Zelda) Fire Emblem Shadows of Valentia, Metroid Prime 3
@NinjaNicky
I'm guessing a lot of people like me haven't finished it so haven't rated it yet. It will be getting a 10 here unless the end pisses me off somehow.
The list will shift dynamically so it might change.
@Scposteel
My personal take on that would be that the majority of people like me come to NES games late out of curiosity and to educate themselves.
I don't think many people are then going to find that they would rate these experiences as 9 or 10s given all the advancements the medium has made. I think beyond Mario, only Punch Out and Kirby have really clicked with me.
Bias is probably also exacerbated by this being a UK site where the NES was never that big.
@EaglyPurahfan @samuelvictor Xenoblade chronicles x is a weird one and is my least favourite entry in the series.
I loved the first game but was a little jaded by 2's more tropey anime styling/humour and a lot of the character designs(particularly Blades).
Own 3 but not tried it yet 🤞.
I'd honestly recommend Torna as the best way to try the series due to its smaller scale, lower price and tighter focus. It reinvigorated my enthusiasm for the series.
@OllieReynolds How pervy / 'fanservicey' is this game? It hasn't looked egregious from the trailers but I'm wary of this team after the direction Danganronpa went down.
The original wasn't a personal10 for me but it has stuck with me vividly for over a decade and I thoroughly recommend it to everyone who is open to unique and novel games. My wife will be picking this up after constant recommendations for years and I'll enjoy getting to revisit it with her 😊
@Yosher The UK government actually leaked that some of this was happening. In the context of gaming streaming services they confirmed the Nintendo Online service was available. I'd almost guarantee that everything in your Online subscription is available on the next console. Digital/ physical purchase compatibility is the biggest question mark.
High budget metroidvania from the Rayman Legends team with a focus on making a great switch version. Didn't need the PoP licence to be all in on this but it's a cool bonus.
Out having a great time on our honeymoon in Canada otherwise the hype would be destroying me. My wife bought a switch and we've both predownload so we can play simultaneously. SO PUMPED!!
XC2's soundtrack was glorious but I never gelled with the story or combat of X or 2 and was falling out of love with the series. Somehow Torna's refinements and character focus delivered on everything I'd been missing. I'm hoping 3 will sit similarly well with me!
@FatWormBlowsASparky Preferred Awakening too but Fates (LE) ended up being my most played 3ds game by a wide margin. Don't sleep on Valentia, I picked it up a year or so late and loved it.
I'd be interested in comparing scores for people coming to this fresh and returning players. I hope there are lots of people playing this for the first and still falling in love with it.
Such a remarkable game for its era! I'll definitely get this soon but don't want to derail what I'm currently playing.
@Thomystic I wouldn't overthink it. Link's Awakening was on the 3ds and Switch and they remade that. Metroid 2 was on the 3ds and that got a remake on the same console as well.
Some amazing stuff in here, although I was so sure Silksong was going to feature that when the TotK trailer came up at the end I got briefly frustrated 😖
I married Lucina. She is one of the most interesting and strong female characters in the Nintendo pantheon imo. I actually started replaying Awakening a few weeks ago but have swapped genders. Might go with Stahl?
Cordelia seems like a really sad choice given that she is so clearly in love with someone else.
Presumably at this point this game is in the final testing and QA phases so would expect the Team Cherry Art people to have moved on to what's next. Total faith in these devs to deliver.
I had fun with World of Light and was probably a better way of structuring a smash bros campaign than SSE. However, given how glorious the opening cinematic and the character reveal trailers were, it felt like a massive slap in the face to me that there was next to nothing after this (at least there were boss fights).
I massively crave some sort of Nintendo All Stars story mode like we got from SSE, but I am happy for this to be spun out from the smash bros fighting series so the gameplay is a better fit.
A turn based/strategy RPG or a multiversal Kid Icarus Uprising sequel would be my ideal.
You already have humanity going to war over a lie, nuclear style bombs going off and the majority of humans being wiped out.
But let's go even further and change the Chaos Kin arc so that Pit is unable to free Palutena from its control without killing her. Maybe he can't go through with it and instead has to watch as the chaos kin continues to tear down the mortal and immortal realms racked by guilt that his actions led to its escape. After it comes to light that Dark Pit is in fact the original version and Pit has been a copy who was given fake memories by Palutena to guarantee his loyalty he gains new resolve.
The two Pits eventually team up to end the Chaos kin/ Palutena's reign of terror. In the aftermath of the battle the chaos kin strikes Dark Pit down from the heavens and with the last of her strength Palutena grants Pit one last use of flight to save him. As in the game Pit exceeds his limits to save Dark Pit and his wings burn up in the process leaving him fatally injured. The two say their goodbyes in the ruins of the mortal realm.
Well Fire Emblem should keep me occupied for at least a month, Rain Code and Cereza Origins are potentials depending on reviews with Persona 4 to fall back on. Add in a likely Silk Song release (Microsoft included it in their coming in next 12 months over the summer) and I should be very sated before Zelda sweeps everything else aside ❤️
I'd drop Tentalus for sure. Whilst the build up, atmosphere and setting are great, the design is horrendous and it ends up just being a use your new item to hit the boss in the vibrant eye weak point affair.... Zelda 101. A better version of this would be the Helmarok King from Wind Waker.
I'd have to vote for the inclusion of Goht as well. It's a very distinctive fight, being as much a chase as a battle and one I would come back to over and over just for fun (I guess I'd drop Dark Link due to the fact they are an S tier mini boss rather than a boss)
I don't know whether I would swap anything else here out but think Ghirahim and Demise deserve some love too.
Yikes, apparently I only completed one Switch game that came out this year... (AI Nirvana Iniative). I'll probably finish Bayo 3 before the end of the year. Guess I was pretty disciplined about working through my backlog before buying new games!
I think Twilight Princess has the best hit rate with dungeons. Turning the Temple of Time into a dungeon was an inspired move imo and might be my favourite from that game.
It's a pretty unusual structure; a linear gauntlet of circular rooms and staircases, but the fact that you get to dismantle all the traps and barriers on your return journey is immensely satisfying.
Would shout out Eagle Tower from Awakening, Temple of the Ocean King, Lanayru Mining facility and the Water and Spirit temples from OoT. Most the handheld dungeons blur into one in the memory.
@Pillowpants Had the same problem with some of the story Xenoblade 3 trailers. I think it's the weirdness of the VO not lining up with what is happening on screen. It becomes a bit of a sensory overload?
They should focus on new experiences as their tent pole releases but should be making it easier for people to enjoy their legacy titles.
It is considerably easier on other platforms to access titles from previous generations and yet Nintendo's nostalgia power is probably unrivalled.
Oooh! Would be great to see this return. I've never owned this but played it at some point in the ds era. I'd love to see how the visuals would transform on a modern console.
@KateGray Woops, but late to the party but this ended up on my tab backlog (even tabs have these now 🙄) .
“Although these two games are not (as far as I know) narratively linked... “
So I don't know if it's explicit but there is a maggot-thing attached to the aggressive pig in Inside who behaves completely differently after you remove it. I always saw this as a link to a similar maggoty thing that affects the player and a few other NPCs in Limbo. I interperated that Naughty Corp has been trying to use these in their mind control experiments. Been a few years since I mindlessly speculated about this game so thanks!
I do feel bad for Hellena for the situation she is in. Furthermore I don't think it hurts for the industry to reflect on whether voice actors are appropriately valued and she clearly believes that she is.
However lashing out at Jennifer Hale for taking on the role was always unjustifiable in this situation.
Furthermore, with all this additional context it seems to me that Platinum actually tried to do right by her by increasing their offer by 50‰ then offering her money for a smaller role.
She seems to have some unrealistic expectations about how lucrative this series is and what she is owed.
@Takoda Not that you're short on responses but it's definitely worth it. It wasnt a strong closing for the trilogy and is my least favourite but its still full of great ideas. The cast is largely split into three groups of three. I would argue that the stuff following the three "returning" cast members from VLR hits the heights of the previous games.
However this continues to unfold, it will be Jennifer Hale who comes out of this looking great. Quite why anyone would have ever attacked her over this situation (including Hellena) is beyond me.
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Re: Top 100 Best Nintendo Games Of All Time
We done good here NLifers. Shame about the dupes.
My top 5 Nintendo Published games that didn't make the cut (at time of reading) :
Kid Icarus Uprising ❤️,
Conker`s Bad Fur Day (the seminal multiplayer game for the n64 amongst my friends),
Skyward Sword (albeit the weakest 3d Zelda)
Fire Emblem Shadows of Valentia,
Metroid Prime 3
Re: Top 100 Best Nintendo Games Of All Time
@NinjaNicky
I'm guessing a lot of people like me haven't finished it so haven't rated it yet. It will be getting a 10 here unless the end pisses me off somehow.
The list will shift dynamically so it might change.
@Scposteel
My personal take on that would be that the majority of people like me come to NES games late out of curiosity and to educate themselves.
I don't think many people are then going to find that they would rate these experiences as 9 or 10s given all the advancements the medium has made. I think beyond Mario, only Punch Out and Kirby have really clicked with me.
Bias is probably also exacerbated by this being a UK site where the NES was never that big.
Re: Ubisoft Game Designer And Creative Director Emile Morel Has Passed Away
What a tragedy. Legends is a rare game I continue to go back to and I am exceptionally greatful to his contributions.
Re: Random: Sakurai Explains Why True Twin-Stick Controls Weren't Possible For Kid Icarus: Uprising
I adore this game and it absolutely deserves another chance to soar (sorry not sorry).
Sakurai's candid comments about the lack of port and sequel progress are probably emotionally healthy for me to hear despite how upsetting they are.
Other than Metroid Prime 4 I don't think there is a nintendo announcement I'd be more excited for.
Re: Feature: Donkey Kong Cymru: The Extremely Brief History Of Welshness In Nintendo Games
@EaglyPurahfan @samuelvictor
Xenoblade chronicles x is a weird one and is my least favourite entry in the series.
I loved the first game but was a little jaded by 2's more tropey anime styling/humour and a lot of the character designs(particularly Blades).
Own 3 but not tried it yet 🤞.
I'd honestly recommend Torna as the best way to try the series due to its smaller scale, lower price and tighter focus. It reinvigorated my enthusiasm for the series.
Re: Review: Master Detective Archives: Rain Code - Macabre Mysteries, A Captivating Cast, A Few Frustrations
@OllieReynolds
How pervy / 'fanservicey' is this game?
It hasn't looked egregious from the trailers but I'm wary of this team after the direction Danganronpa went down.
Re: Best Nintendo 64 Platformers - Every N64 3D Platformer, Ranked By You
Man that Bugs Life game looked so exciting to me from the back of a cereal box when I was a kid 🤣
Re: Review: Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective - A DS All-Timer Returns In Stunning Form
The original wasn't a personal10 for me but it has stuck with me vividly for over a decade and I thoroughly recommend it to everyone who is open to unique and novel games.
My wife will be picking this up after constant recommendations for years and I'll enjoy getting to revisit it with her 😊
Re: Pikmin 4 Will Let You Erase Your Mistakes With A Handy New Rewind Mechanic
@PLATINUM7
So close! Wouldn't sand pit of been better though
Re: Shuntaro Furukawa: Switch Successor Will Utilise The 'Nintendo Account' System
@Yosher
The UK government actually leaked that some of this was happening. In the context of gaming streaming services they confirmed the Nintendo Online service was available.
I'd almost guarantee that everything in your Online subscription is available on the next console.
Digital/ physical purchase compatibility is the biggest question mark.
Re: Hands On: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Is Dread-ful, In The Best Possible Way
High budget metroidvania from the Rayman Legends team with a focus on making a great switch version.
Didn't need the PoP licence to be all in on this but it's a cool bonus.
Re: Summer Game Fest And Games Conference Schedule 2023: Dates, How To Watch And Everything You Need To Know
@SBandy1
Hyrule Warriors: The Imprisoning War is probably more of a 'when' than an 'if'
😉
Re: Suda51's Grasshopper Manufacture Teases 25th Anniversary Announcement
Oh yeah, never got round to Nmh3. Always exciting to see what these loons are working on though.
Re: Random: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom NPCs Call Out "Naked Link"
To be honest I'd only tried it with Hetsu and he didn't react like he did in BOTW.
Noticed people calling me out for the Yiga mask though.
Re: Random: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Lights Up London's Piccadilly Circus
Out having a great time on our honeymoon in Canada otherwise the hype would be destroying me.
My wife bought a switch and we've both predownload so we can play simultaneously.
SO PUMPED!!
Re: Review: Teslagrad 2 - A Fine Follow-Up That Leaves You Wanting More
Loved the original on Wii U. Will be adding to my watch list for sure.
Re: Soapbox: Torna - The Golden Country Is One Of The Best DLCs Of All Time
XC2's soundtrack was glorious but I never gelled with the story or combat of X or 2 and was falling out of love with the series.
Somehow Torna's refinements and character focus delivered on everything I'd been missing.
I'm hoping 3 will sit similarly well with me!
Re: Surprise! Xenoblade Chronicles 3 "Final DLC" Launches On Switch Next Week
Is it safe for me to watch this trailer having played 1 + 2 +T but not 3?
I saw that it takes place prior to 3 but wanted to check first.
Re: Nintendo Announces Indie World Showcase For Tomorrow, April 19th 2023
Other than the obvious, be nice to find out what on earth is going on with Outer Wilds and Bomb Rush Cyberfunk.
Re: Poll: Which Is The Best Ganondorf?
I think WW Ganondorf is the most interesting from a writing angle.
My favourite design might actually be Hyrule Warriors though 🤯
Re: Random: Modder Adds 'Meat Fusion Arrows' To Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
Came here just to give props to. That sub header.
Chef's kiss
Re: Best Deals And Cheapest Games In The 3DS & Wii U eShop Sales
@Euler
Yeah I was going to grab some last minute deals and just hit this too!
Are we too slow?
Re: Countdown: 3DS eShop Spotlight - Fire Emblem Fates
@FatWormBlowsASparky
Preferred Awakening too but Fates (LE) ended up being my most played 3ds game by a wide margin.
Don't sleep on Valentia, I picked it up a year or so late and loved it.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Metroid Prime Remastered?
I'd be interested in comparing scores for people coming to this fresh and returning players.
I hope there are lots of people playing this for the first and still falling in love with it.
Such a remarkable game for its era!
I'll definitely get this soon but don't want to derail what I'm currently playing.
Re: Switch's Game Boy Library Doesn't Have A Set Schedule, According To Nintendo
@Thomystic
I wouldn't overthink it.
Link's Awakening was on the 3ds and Switch and they remade that.
Metroid 2 was on the 3ds and that got a remake on the same console as well.
Re: Round Up: Everything Announced In The February 2023 Nintendo Direct - Every Game Reveal And Trailer
Some amazing stuff in here, although I was so sure Silksong was going to feature that when the TotK trailer came up at the end I got briefly frustrated 😖
Re: Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective Gets Resurrected On Switch This Summer
It's rare I audibly gasp during directs but having this return was just a treat!
Been wanting to play this one with the wife for about a decade now!
Re: Talking Point: Who Did You Marry In Fire Emblem: Awakening?
I married Lucina. She is one of the most interesting and strong female characters in the Nintendo pantheon imo.
I actually started replaying Awakening a few weeks ago but have swapped genders. Might go with Stahl?
Cordelia seems like a really sad choice given that she is so clearly in love with someone else.
Re: Hollow Knight Dev Files New Trademarks For 'Fearless Fox'
Presumably at this point this game is in the final testing and QA phases so would expect the Team Cherry Art people to have moved on to what's next.
Total faith in these devs to deliver.
Re: Talking Point: 15 Years On, Should Super Smash Bros. Brawl's Subspace Emissary Return?
I had fun with World of Light and was probably a better way of structuring a smash bros campaign than SSE.
However, given how glorious the opening cinematic and the character reveal trailers were, it felt like a massive slap in the face to me that there was next to nothing after this (at least there were boss fights).
I massively crave some sort of Nintendo All Stars story mode like we got from SSE, but I am happy for this to be spun out from the smash bros fighting series so the gameplay is a better fit.
A turn based/strategy RPG or a multiversal Kid Icarus Uprising sequel would be my ideal.
Re: Reminder: Unlock A Bayonetta Origins Demo In Bayonetta 3
Finished Bayo 3 yesterday, great experience overall.
Didn't do the teaser because it suggested it would take awhile and it was late.
Re: Back Page: Why Don't Nintendo Games Get Gritty TV Shows? Here Are Some Pitches
Some Kid Icarus Uprising spoilers ahead.
You already have humanity going to war over a lie, nuclear style bombs going off and the majority of humans being wiped out.
But let's go even further and change the Chaos Kin arc so that Pit is unable to free Palutena from its control without killing her. Maybe he can't go through with it and instead has to watch as the chaos kin continues to tear down the mortal and immortal realms racked by guilt that his actions led to its escape.
After it comes to light that Dark Pit is in fact the original version and Pit has been a copy who was given fake memories by Palutena to guarantee his loyalty he gains new resolve.
The two Pits eventually team up to end the Chaos kin/ Palutena's reign of terror. In the aftermath of the battle the chaos kin strikes Dark Pit down from the heavens and with the last of her strength Palutena grants Pit one last use of flight to save him. As in the game Pit exceeds his limits to save Dark Pit and his wings burn up in the process leaving him fatally injured.
The two say their goodbyes in the ruins of the mortal realm.
Re: Bayonetta 3 Version 1.2.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Looking forward to seeing how much better Viola feels to play now. The witch time windows for her were genuinely aggravating at times.
Re: Nintendo Provides A Look At Switch's Games Line-Up For 2023
Well Fire Emblem should keep me occupied for at least a month, Rain Code and Cereza Origins are potentials depending on reviews with Persona 4 to fall back on.
Add in a likely Silk Song release (Microsoft included it in their coming in next 12 months over the summer) and I should be very sated before Zelda sweeps everything else aside ❤️
Re: Feature: The 15 Best Zelda Bosses, Ranked
I'd drop Tentalus for sure. Whilst the build up, atmosphere and setting are great, the design is horrendous and it ends up just being a use your new item to hit the boss in the vibrant eye weak point affair.... Zelda 101. A better version of this would be the Helmarok King from Wind Waker.
I'd have to vote for the inclusion of Goht as well. It's a very distinctive fight, being as much a chase as a battle and one I would come back to over and over just for fun (I guess I'd drop Dark Link due to the fact they are an S tier mini boss rather than a boss)
I don't know whether I would swap anything else here out but think Ghirahim and Demise deserve some love too.
Re: Soapbox: One Of My GOTYs Is A Game You Probably Haven't Played (But You Should)
OK, this was not on my radar at all but absolutely is now!
Thanks for the pointer!
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Switch Games Of The Year 2022
Yikes, apparently I only completed one Switch game that came out this year...
(AI Nirvana Iniative).
I'll probably finish Bayo 3 before the end of the year.
Guess I was pretty disciplined about working through my backlog before buying new games!
Re: Celeste Creator Shares "First-Look" At New Title Earthblade
Looks pretty solid! Will be keeping an eye on it!
Re: Feature: The Top 15 Legend Of Zelda Dungeons Of All Time, Ranked
I think Twilight Princess has the best hit rate with dungeons.
Turning the Temple of Time into a dungeon was an inspired move imo and might be my favourite from that game.
It's a pretty unusual structure; a linear gauntlet of circular rooms and staircases, but the fact that you get to dismantle all the traps and barriers on your return journey is immensely satisfying.
Would shout out Eagle Tower from Awakening, Temple of the Ocean King, Lanayru Mining facility and the Water and Spirit temples from OoT. Most the handheld dungeons blur into one in the memory.
Re: Fire Emblem Engage Introduces Two New Characters
Yep, first impressions of these two are very positive.
Looking forward to this tremendously!
Re: Nintendo Releases Stunning New Story Trailer For Fire Emblem Engage
@Pillowpants
Had the same problem with some of the story Xenoblade 3 trailers.
I think it's the weirdness of the VO not lining up with what is happening on screen. It becomes a bit of a sensory overload?
Re: While Old Games Are Easily Delivered, Nintendo Is Focused On New Experiences, Says Miyamoto
They should focus on new experiences as their tent pole releases but should be making it easier for people to enjoy their legacy titles.
It is considerably easier on other platforms to access titles from previous generations and yet Nintendo's nostalgia power is probably unrivalled.
Re: Rating For 'Ghost Trick' Has Been Spotted In Korea
Oooh! Would be great to see this return.
I've never owned this but played it at some point in the ds era.
I'd love to see how the visuals would transform on a modern console.
Re: Poll: Bayonetta 3 Is Out Today On Switch, Are You Getting It?
I preordered it but fancied playing through 2 again first.
Having a great time and excited for 3!
Re: Backlog Club: Exploring The [REDACTED] And Finding The [REDACTED] In 'Inside'
@KateGray Woops, but late to the party but this ended up on my tab backlog (even tabs have these now 🙄) .
“Although these two games are not (as far as I know) narratively linked... “
So I don't know if it's explicit but there is a maggot-thing attached to the aggressive pig in Inside who behaves completely differently after you remove it.
I always saw this as a link to a similar maggoty thing that affects the player and a few other NPCs in Limbo.
I interperated that Naughty Corp has been trying to use these in their mind control experiments.
Been a few years since I mindlessly speculated about this game so thanks!
Re: Review: Bayonetta 3 - A Stunning Return For An Icon, And The Best Game In The Series
So relieved to hear its living up to its potential!
I'll go get this preordered and start replaying Bayo 2 ASAP!
Re: Bayonetta's OG Voice Actor Responds To Online Backlash In Ongoing Dispute
I do feel bad for Hellena for the situation she is in. Furthermore I don't think it hurts for the industry to reflect on whether voice actors are appropriately valued and she clearly believes that she is.
However lashing out at Jennifer Hale for taking on the role was always unjustifiable in this situation.
Furthermore, with all this additional context it seems to me that Platinum actually tried to do right by her by increasing their offer by 50‰ then offering her money for a smaller role.
She seems to have some unrealistic expectations about how lucrative this series is and what she is owed.
Re: Memory Pak: 50 Shades Of Morally Grey In Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
@Takoda
Not that you're short on responses but it's definitely worth it.
It wasnt a strong closing for the trilogy and is my least favourite but its still full of great ideas.
The cast is largely split into three groups of three. I would argue that the stuff following the three "returning" cast members from VLR hits the heights of the previous games.
Re: Bayonetta 3's New Voice Actor Asks Everyone To "Just Be Good To Each Other"
@fenlix
Bravo, the best possible comment!
However this continues to unfold, it will be Jennifer Hale who comes out of this looking great.
Quite why anyone would have ever attacked her over this situation (including Hellena) is beyond me.
Re: Here Are The Top Five Persona 5 Royal Music Tracks According To Atlus
Different vibes but I rate Confession and Alleycat super highly.
Beneath the Mask is 100% snubbed, stupid Morgana.