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Pikmin 3 Will Not Include Online Multiplayer

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

Local co-op is included

It shows how eagerly anticipated Pikmin 3 has been that Nintendo wasted no time opening its show with the title at E3: the regular teases over a number of years meant that it was always going to be a high profile reveal. More details on the Wii U title are starting to emerge, and one negative is that the multiplayer component has been confirmed as local play only, with no online option.

In an interview with IGN, Shigeru Miyamoto explained why online play won't feature.

So in the case of Mario Kart, we did have online multiplayer, and that's something that... You have to be very careful that you don't drop frames as you're trying to sync up with other players over what could be a very great physical distance, over the internet. But in the situation of Pikmin, for example, since you would have lots of individual, small creatures, the Pikmin, whose every movement and location is going to be really important in the game, it would be very difficult to sync up over an internet connection.

So I think what we've decided to do is focus on the single-player and local multiplayer aspects, which are really fun. But unfortunately, no online multiplayer for Pikmin 3. But the co-op local multiplayer is really fun.

Another interesting comment in the interview shows just how long this title has been in the works, with both DS and 3DS considered as platforms at one point. Miyamoto had this to say about how the concept evolved as years went by.

Fundamentally I would say that the game didn't change all that much. Rather, we saw the CPU power and HD resolution offered by the Wii U and simply thought that was the best platform possible for that game, allowing you to see the whole map at one time and things like that. Going back a little bit, I would have to say that we really debated what kind of game we should make Pikmin 3.

Having played them, you must know that Pikmin and Pikmin 2 themselves are very different games from each other. We had a bit of a discussion internally about which direction we should go for Pikmin 3. And at the same time we were also trying out different experiments on the DS and the 3DS and the Wii to see which platform the game would work best on. We had decided on Wii when the possibility of putting it on the Wii U became available, as we began to see what that framework was going to look like. At that time we definitely decided, okay, this is going to be much better on Wii U. Nothing huge changed in terms of the fundamental concept.

Are you disappointed that Pikmin 3 won't feature any form of online co-op or multiplayer, or are you happy playing with a friend in the same room? Let us know in the comments below.

[via uk.ign.com]

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BenAV

#1

BenAV said:

No biggie.
I just want a lengthy single player game, that's all Pikmin needs.

LavaTwilight

#3

LavaTwilight said:

Seriously? The lack of online play will make you decide not to buy the game? I hope that's sarcasm! To be honest I think it wouldn't work as an online game, I mean, how many people can you seriously have? By the looks of it 4! Big woop! If you're seriously the kind of person who doesn't have three friends who can play the game with then you really need to re-evaluate your social life! We don't need online play for this game and if they included it anyway I would feel they were including it just for the sake of including it! And Miyamoto's arguments were more than justified!
As for me I'm still looking forward to it! Maybe more than before, but that's likely to increase over time isn't it?

KaiserGX

#4

KaiserGX said:

Inb4...

Generally used on internet forums, inb4 refers to a user posting a reply to a message/topic "before" another user posts an obvious response. When used appropriately, inb4 is followed by a word or short phrase that the user knows will eventually appear in the topic conversation.

abINC4L

#5

abINC4L said:

I'm not much of an online gamer anyways and I hardly know anyone with the same taste in gaming as I do so I'm not really affected by a lack of online multiplayer or co-op. I'd much rather play locally with someone anyways.

darkgamer001

#6

darkgamer001 said:

Let the troll and crybaby invasion commence...

Anyway, it is a shame, but at least Miyamoto justified why the online element isn't there. If this weren't a launch title, they probably would have found a way to keep the framerate from dropping dramatically, and the online element would have been there, but again, I don't fault them. They had to have a killer launch title, and this is it.

Tallion

#7

Tallion said:

I usually am a huge supporter of online play, but I find myself agreeing with this decision. Pikmin is a beautiful game and I do not feel that playing it online is essential in any way. I really see how this would be a hard game to bring quality online play to right now. Just look how terribly laggy the multiplayer was in overlord!

Cipher

#8

Cipher said:

I didn't expect to see online multiplayer, and given Miyamoto's comments I'm quite glad they decided against it. I just think, with a game like Pikmin, multiplayer (co-op or competitive) is so, so much more fun and fulfilling when everybody's in the same room.

Corvid

#9

Corvid said:

I hadn't even considered the thought of this having online multiplayer, so I certainly wasn't expecting it.
In a generation where games on rival consoles practically ALWAYS include online in co-op games I do think it seems a mistake to neglect it. The co-op mode in Pikmin 2 was great fun and having it available to play online would really have extended the Pikmin fanbase to new players.

sebman30

#12

sebman30 said:

dont care. the multiplayer in one of them i played (cant remeber which one) it was good but not fantastic

Luigifan141

#13

Luigifan141 said:

I was planning to buy this anyway, but Nintendo saying, in a nutshell, that the online ca't keep up with both players seems pretty BS to me. Full single player games on other systems, such as Halo, LittleBigPlanet, and Gears of War support online campaign co-op. This gives me the impression that the Wii U can't handle online campaign modes, and now that I think about it, Nintendo hasn't really done anything like that at all.

Also now that I think about it, Nintendo keeps saying that the Wii U will have great online, but there aren't any games besides Miiverse (which isn't really a game) that are known to have online play...

KaiserGX

#14

KaiserGX said:

^ 100 Individual Pikmin for each character, being on different parts of the map. including the items you would have to pick up. Everything would need to be completely synced. Monster Hunter isn't even synced with minor enemies.

Brando67854321

#15

Brando67854321 said:

Local play only again is BS to me now no one will buy this game because of the lack of online. Much like starfox 64 3d It will bomb in sales bad. :(

BenAV

#16

BenAV said:

@Brando67854321 Are you serious right now?
This is completely different to Starfox 64 3D.
For one, that was a remake of a Nintendo 64 game.
But the biggest problem was probably that it has such a short single player mode and probably the main draw to the game is the multiplayer, so that would have highly benefited from being online.
Pikmin on the other hand, is a game with a lot more length and depth to it and is designed to be played single player, then the multiplayer options are just a small extra.
I don't see why people are complaining so much about Pikmin not being online and not other single player focused games, as it's not like Pikmin is the only game in the world which doesn't have an online mode.

Luigifan141

#17

Luigifan141 said:

@Miss_Birdo That's my point; Pikmin 3 seriously can't handle having 200 Pikmin at once even though Miiverse can handle having probably thousands of Miis at the same time plus messaging? Plus, Monster Hunter is on the Wii, not Wii U (for now), so I think that's a pretty irrelevant point.

Kyloctopus

#18

Kyloctopus said:

@Brando67854321 I don't think online multiplayer is a great deal. New Super Mario Bros had no multiplayer and it's one of the best selling games of all time. Mario Party 9 had no multiplayer, and it's sold 1.3 million, and still selling. Star Fox 64 3D sold 500,000 FTR. And in all fairness, ST64 3D has a full download play feature. And I'm sure most people didn't play for multiplay, but for the campaign.

XCWarrior

#19

XCWarrior said:

You don't tout how you're going to do online right and then one of the major launch titles that clearly has multiplayer doesn't have online.

Facepalm Nintendo, just facepalm. And didn't they say NSMBU also is local multiplayer only? No mention for Nintendo land either.... Nintendo has to have some online games, otherwise don't mention you're online. having that miiverse thing doesn't count.

NintyMan

#20

NintyMan said:

Pikmin doesn't seem like the kind of game that would fit online very well anyway. I'd rather have a sibling or friend cooperate with me in the same room than a random guy a thousand miles away. While lag could've been mostly avoided if worked out long enough, I'm sure they wanted Pikmin 3 to be close to launch, and it should.

HanuKwanzMasBif

#21

HanuKwanzMasBif said:

Meh.
I hope NSMBU has online co-op, that would be cool... since it has a nice Miiverse feature I figure they're going to make online co-op too. And Nintendo Land should at least have a couple games compatible with online.
But really, is it necessary for Pikmin? I believe not.

Mollutje

#22

Mollutje said:

I didn't even think it would have local co-op, so I don't mind this at all. I don't think this type of game is well suited for online anyway, so with the confirmation of local co-op, this is good news to me.

Sakura_Moonlight2421

#23

Sakura_Moonlight2421 said:

@Luigifan141 Actually it'll be 300 Pikmin. The trailer of the game featured a third character joining Olimar and Louie. Miiverse will be running separately from the main console as it'll be displayed on the tablet-like controller.

Why is everyone so shocked about it not having online play? Nintendo is not know for its online play. They are known for solo play. :P Besides keep in mind that Nintendo was the only gaming company that wasn't targeted by online hackers which screwed up PSN and Xbox Live accounts respectively.

As soon as I make room I'm going to get a Wii U and Pikmin 3.

rjejr

#24

rjejr said:

My initial reaction of "more bad news for Nintendo" was quickly replaced by - wait a minute, this is Pikmin, why does it even have multiplayer?

If they've been working on this game for awhile on different systems as they said then the thought probably never even entered their minds that they were making a tentpole game for the WiiU launch and as such better have online multiplayer. You just know it was never going to have online multiplayer as a Wii game. I'm glad they waited, for this game I'ld much rather have offline HD graphics than online multiplayer on the Wii or DSi or 3DS.
Now if we could just get a release date, or a firm confirmation that it's done. I have a feeling in my gut Reggie will be saying a "launch window' is 6 months long before we see this on store shelves.

Hejiru

#25

Hejiru said:

:(
I know you all think caring about online means you're stupid, but for some of us online multiplayer is the only multiplayer we can use.

KaiserGX

#26

KaiserGX said:

@Luigifan141 You're not controller the Mii's though. Through online they would have to share a lot of data between each other. Pikmin, enemy placements that will be scattered all over the map. Shared through 3 connections (if it would be 3 players) and in order to cooperate you would need everything to be synced.

On top of that what if you're using the tablets? That's even more strain going on.

PixelatedPixie

#27

PixelatedPixie said:

It's not a big deal, but Pikmin is essentially a strategy game and strategy games can make for some exciting competitve multplayer. It's a shame they couldn't find a way to make it work.

ajcismo

#28

ajcismo said:

Not every game needs to be online, and I can agree with Mr.Miyamoto's reasoning why Pikmin3 isn't. No great controversy here.

Shotgunryugan

#29

Shotgunryugan said:

Should that really matter? I mean,i am not a fan of pikmin i have never played the franchise,but to my understanding it's sort of like a strategy game? then what should really matter is a long single player experience :P

This isn't a shooter,it doesn't need online to make the game longer or more fun.

Moshugan

#30

Moshugan said:

It's a shame BUT the bright side is that it will have co-op!
After E3 I was looking it up on Nintendo's own site and it said ''players: 1'' and was like what!?

Adam

#31

Adam said:

Strategy games tend to be multiplayer. I'm not a big fan of Starcraft's single-player, nor chess's.

It's disappointing. All the people talking about Pikmin being a single-player game obviously haven't played Pikmin 2, where the biggest changes were the two multiplayer modes. And the single-player was actually a bit of a step down from Pikmin 1 to some. The natural next step was taking it online, and the built-in mic on the Gamepad would have made co-op wonderful.

But I'm just glad they changed their tune and confirmed local multiplayer. For awhile we believed it had regressed to single-player status due to the "Players: 1" listing on their site and lack of any multiplayer mention at E3. I hope they have kept the head-to-head mode, but Miyamoto's only referencing local co-op is a tad distressing.

Still, co-op would be much better than nothing. After all, it could be done just the same as single-player, but with more players. Can't go wrong there.

And yes, local is better than online, but it's not 24/7 that you'll have other people wanting to play Pikmin, and it's nice to be able to play with friends who've moved, or internet friends whom you've never met. The "local > online" argument has never made sense as a justification for exclusion. People will play both.

photofool83

#32

photofool83 said:

I've always liked playing multiplayer with people in the same room as me better than online-play any day.

SKTTR

#33

SKTTR said:

Multiplayer was never a big deal, just a little bonus added to PIKMIN 2 (and now PIKMIN 3). No one would buy a Pikmin game for multiplayer. It's always about the single player story adventure mode.

With suggestions like some of the above I can imagine this game to be fun online indeed. But it isn't necessary for me. Another 35-hour solo experience like PIKMIN 2 will be good enough for me. If PIKMIN 3 is a short 12-hour game like PIKMIN 1, that would be a disappointment though.

Candido0411

#34

Candido0411 said:

@Adam

I agree with your statement. I remember playing Pikmin 2 multiplayer with my friends when I was a kid and saying, "this would be so cool if it had online multiplayer!" and after like 10 years or so in the making no online which is just sad. A game like Pikmin would benefit the most from online IMO.

I guess I can see the core audience who really enjoy Pikmin 1 and 2 buying this game but for someone who is new to this franchise, I can't see them paying $60 (assuming it's going to cost that much) for this game.

Whopper744

#36

Whopper744 said:

@BenAV took the words right out of my mouth on the first comment. I'm fine with this. Co op local is good enough for me.

Gameday

#41

Gameday said:

all i can think is , it not a good idea to not have the system start out with games that cant be link'd online someway.. hmm time will tell if this was for the best.

RevolverLink

#43

RevolverLink said:

That it actually has co-op at all is good news to me. There was some talk during E3 that Pikmin 2's sneaky-great multiplayer modes would be completely absent from the sequel.

k8sMum

#45

k8sMum said:

@LavaTwilight If you're seriously the kind of person who doesn't have three friends who can play the game with then you really need to re-evaluate your social life!

not only did you miss the 'inb4' of the post you are replying to, but then you go on to make what must be one of the dumbest comments ever. kudos.

DarkLloyd

#46

DarkLloyd said:

well thats good in my eyes, dont need online slapped into every game for the sake of cuddling up with others :P

CanisWolfred

#48

CanisWolfred said:

@k8sMum Beat me to it. Take me for example - I have a couple of real life friends, but only one of them is interested in Pikmin, but probably won't get a Wii U for multiple reasons. It's pretty easy to have friends with completely different tastes in games from you. Same with my brother and my friends' friends. Not only that, but all of my friends are outside walking distance (we all met at school, which pools people from, like, 3 counties...) and only two of us can drive. I'm not one of them. So local co-op is out of the question most of the time. That just leaves my online friends, which would require online co-op that Pikmin 3 doesn't have.

But again, I'm fine with this, because that just means there's one less thing I'll be missing out on when I don't get a Wii U.

BeatOli

#49

BeatOli said:

@Luigifan141
400 Pikmin. Imagine all those Pikmin with their own animations along with 4 leaders, treasures, enemies and other things going on. The lag would be incredible.

AVahne

#50

AVahne said:

Never even thought of online for Pikmin 3. The idea never crossed my mind.

How about a Battalion Wars 3iiU?

Emaan

#51

Emaan said:

Its fine. I only wanted this game for the singleplayer experience. Glad we at least get local multiplayer, which in my opinion, is far better than online. Especially for this game.

ueI

#54

ueI said:

@Assassin87 Pikmin 2 had multiplayer, though I don't remember it very well. I think you could either co-op to kill baddies and find treasure, or compete by killing each other and stealing treasure.

Rapadash6

#55

Rapadash6 said:

Anyone expecting that Nintendo releasing a more versatile online infrastructure would also mean they would do more with there own games were setting themselves up for disappointment from the get go. Nintendo's focus is not in the online space, period. There concessions on the hardware were merely for the benefit of third parties, so I fully expect Nintendo to include online multiplayer in only a select few of their own titles going forward.

MeloMan

#57

MeloMan said:

Online for the sake of online is a pointless way to develop a game. Nintendo's pretty stated before that they won't just tack it on if it's not fundamental to the game experience, such as Mario Kart. It's nothing really to be all that bothered about for the Pikmin franchise.

kkslider5552000

#58

kkslider5552000 said:

This is probably a good thing, at least right now, as Nintendo trying to get a Pikmin game to have online co-op would take forever at this rate, even if they rapidly made online THE major focus. And I don't think Nintendo wants their only announced post-2012 Wii U game to be delayed until the end of next year. Just a guess though.

SMW

#59

SMW said:

So local co-op is confirmed? Thats all I need. I wouldn't want to play Pikmin online anyways. Local co-op is where its at! Pikmin 2's multiplayer is so fun.

Brando67854321

#60

Brando67854321 said:

@Kyloctopus oh brother, This game will bomb bad AND It brought back the time limit everyone hated!!!!!! How is that fine?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Miyamoto WTH are you doing?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?? :p :( :'( Where the eff is the "disappointment" tag?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :(

Hyperstar96

#61

Hyperstar96 said:

Although I am upset, I understand. Too bad I'll never be able to make us of local multiplayer...

DarkKirby

#62

DarkKirby said:

This will not effect my decision of purchase, but come on Nintendo, get with the program. People want ONLINE for their games, not local multiplayer. I would like to know what exactly is so impossible about Pikiman that is accomplished in Starcraft 2 and MMOs that also have tons on things moving everywhere.

Brando67854321

#63

Brando67854321 said:

@DarkKirby I know!!!! no excuse! Miyamoto this is BS, just delay it so It can have online multiplayer, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! :( Also, local play only AGAIN!!!!!!!! (facepalm)

DarkLloyd

#64

DarkLloyd said:

also, the only probable reason anyone would want multiplayer slapped onto a single player game is that they cant afford more then one game at a time so they try to ride out one title for as long as they can :P not a very good reason

so let this game be, its not needed

Pastry

#65

Pastry said:

The game will be great! Nobody I know is going to get a Wii U anyway.

Haxonberik

#67

Haxonberik said:

Happy that it would have local more than that it wont have online. Anyways the best multiplayer experiences for me are local, I for one played the entire Portal 2 multiplayer split-screen and loved it.

grimbldoo

#68

grimbldoo said:

Depending on your friend and those that play Pikmen (if you could have played with random people online), online could have been a major pain and probably would have been.

OptometristLime

#71

OptometristLime said:

All the crybabies dumping dirt on a coffin of Pikmin simply aren't Nintendo's target market. Some people think Nintendo should change to accomodate the online fadists but that would likely alienate their core audience. Nintendo is about intimate experiences, and a well crafted game can be just as engrossing to watch as it is to play. But Pikmin is a strategy game and begs the inclusion of some form of coop, personally the local option is more than sufficient.

eviLaTtenDant

#72

eviLaTtenDant said:

During the E3 conference i initially thought "This has to have 4-player online co-op!". I didn't think about the technical side of things then.
Come to think about it it would not be the biggest draw for this game yet. While it could be cool to have some competetive online mode in Pikmin 3 a co-op only Pikmin game is where online would really shine imo.
And now i want to live on a planet where that would be technically possible and where the Pikmin franchise would be popular enough for it to sell. :o

takabron123

#77

takabron123 said:

I prefer playing Pikmin 3 in the same room cause it's more fun
It's ok that there no online multiplayer

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