I'm holding off just to get some experience with the joycon anyway. I did the same with the OG Switch, and it made me appreciate the experience even more.
My favorite Pokemon memory growing up? We were very poor growing up, so we just couldn't afford a Gameboy (let alone the batteries) — the family computer was powerful enough for emulators but it still wasn't the same.
I distinctly remember waking up in the morning one day and holding my hands out like I was holding a Gameboy. I wanted one so bad!
However, my older brother's friend randomly gave me one AND Pokemon Blue. No strings attached. I was ELATED.
(as for Pokemon Gold/Silver... I still only emulated those. Which was an odd experience considering the real time clock features.)
@Jayenkai why bother splitting up the colors with that method? You're basically describing a gaussian blur (+ some geometry) shader, which isn't ideal. In that case, you could just lower the output resolution to your TV.
CRT shaders get into how each subpixel blooms, how they fade and how they might affect each other. The perfect shader would know your display's subpixel layout and match them up, but that would require knowledge that the Switch just doesn't have access to. I've manually set it up on my 4K OLED TV with my Steam Deck, and it looked so good I felt like if I tapped on the TV I would get that "Thunk!" sound.
So happy about the CRT filter. It looks like it's more than just scanlines. Maybe closer to my wish of a CRT Royale type filter? (difficult to tell from the video)
@larryisaman I think that's a really interesting point/question. Given Nintendo's current trajectory with the Switch 2 — backward compatible carts, game share support, dev kits, firmware updates, etc. — can we still assume that they're going to cut off the Switch 1? I can honestly see them overlapping for a lot longer than we're used to.
@8bit-Man it is really interesting. We can only make guesses about Nintendo based on their history, but the one thing that has been most consistent with them is that they like to throw surprise punches. Along the lines of your thinking, it's also interesting that this is the first "2" that they've ever done. For all we know, Nintendo is trying to buck the trend somehow.
@Duncanballs sorry, I thought about it for a few minutes after I posted that and came to defeat my own argument. I thought I'd deleted my message in time.
But yeah, I can totally see that. It needed to be clear cut that it's a new system, not an expansion.
This is what I posted if anyone else is trying to follow:
Not to beat up a dead horse, but I still think his perspective on the Switch 2 being an expansion of the Switch 1 is why I would have gone with the name Super Switch or Switch DX or whatever.
This isn't a clear jump between generations. It's an expansion on the same idea, something that we haven't seen since NES -> SNES. And even more so now because we're not leaving Switch 1 players or devs/research/code behind.
The only thing "Switch 2" does is scratch the itch for following the tradition of getting a new generation.
(I'm not bitter or anything, I'm just making conversation.)
My Nintendo-fu is failing because if you had asked me where this design came from, I would have said old DK arcade cabinets. I get this sort of Mandela effect feeling as soon as I see that this isn't the case. Something about the eyes just takes me back to that era.
LA at 60fps would be great! I'm not really a framerate snob, but something about the framerate drops makes me feel like I'm pushing the Switch too hard and literally cooking the system.
This could open the door to more mid-tier games. Indie games tend to max out around $20, but now with AAA jumping to $80 there's a void for something between indie and AAA.
I think this is a great thing. Not every game has to be either revolutionary or like it was made in a basement.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I refuse to remove games like the ARMS - Global Testpunch because... I don't even know. But I feel like if I remove them then I'll never get them back.
Will this new setup remove those from my list if I archive the game?
Am I the only one who thinks that Game Chat for Splatoon might not work so well?
Imagine playing against a team that could see each other's screens? It's a whole different game.
But, I grew up playing GoldenEye on the 64 with a splitter between two TVs and cardboard taped to cover the other players' screens... maybe I'm just old lol
Launch Switch with JoyCon that have never had the slightest bit of drift — though I did send them in for the interference fix shortly after I got it. I don't know how it found me, but I'll cherish it forever.
@speed_loafer Honestly, around 11:55PM ET I was just refreshing the Switch 2 page waiting for a pre-order button and it redirected me to the waiting in line page.
1. Being able to drop down to desktop mode with ease. 2. A virtually unlimited library. I have over 1000 Steam games accumulated since Steam's inception, and Epic gives out a game or two every week. Not to mention PC games are generally significantly cheaper which makes your argument about the Steam Deck being more expensive, incorrect. 3. I can customize every aspect of it to make it my perfect fit. From using any controller, to setting the theme.
The Switch is a more curated experience, and that's the real value in it for me. I could never play Splatoon or Mario on the Steam Deck... that would be gross.
I was also thinking yesterday... how loud is the dock going to be? I haven't heard anyone cover this. I've always subconsciously avoided my PS3/4 because of how loud they can get.
This is probably one of the few instances that I approve of Michael Bay being the director. Fast cars, catchy music and explosions sounds like a great time!
@NolandC There are definitely games that would run just fine at 1440p/120hz (probably even 4k) — Rayman Legends, Sonic Mania, Celeste, Shovel Knight, Super Meat Boy, F-Zero 99, Tetris 99 to name a few.
The limiting factor of 4k120hz is DP -> HDMI bandwidth not horsepower.
Anyway, someone else mentioned that 1440p@120hz is supported.
Yessss!! This has been my biggest question and everyone keeps telling me otherwise.
Very happy to hear that this will work this way. It means that I can always buy the Enhanced edition and know it'll work on the Switch 1 (when the game supports it) rather than buy a separate copy of the Switch 1 if I intend to play that too.
That's fine. rtings has been doing a burn-in test running static content for 7 years now and agrees with me with real-world usage. And those panels are from 7 years ago.
If you're really looking for comfort, LG generally has a pretty good warranty specifically for burn-in. (mine is 5 years)
OLED burn-in is basically a thing of the past at this point. I wouldn't stress about it at all.
I calibrate my LG C1(OLED 4K 120hz) with a color meter every few months — to show you how picky I am — and I've never once noticed any sort of burn-in. I keep the brightness at 100% as well.
@Spider-Kev Are the pins different even for Enhanced Edition carts? I ask specifically because the text I've been seeing for these is that it contains the Switch 1 version + the enhancement.
(So cool to see my question make it to the video tho!)
The PS5 is an iteration of the PS series. My point was that Nintendo tends to make innovation strides for each generation, so, to your example, this feels more like a Switch Pro/PS5 Pro than a leap to the next number in the Nintendo lineage.
I'm not trying to throw bad vibes. I'm actually really excited. It's just an observation.
It's feeling more and more like this really should have been called the Super Switch over the Switch 2. The developers seem excited about the improvements over the original Switch, but there doesn't seem to be anyone saying that it brings brand new ideas to the table.
I mean, this is perfect for me. I'm honestly pumped to get one. It's exactly what I've been wanting over the years. But still, I think it's missing a little of Nintendo's iconic "let's innovate with this wtf quirk" like a second screen on the back or something.
So, for example, if I buy a BOTW:S2E cart for myself, then I can let my kid put the same cart into her hand-me-down Switch 1. Saves from buying 2 editions of the same game.
But that actually begs the question... if I play my profile on the Switch 1, will my save file transfer? I'm assuming not, because how would it reconcile the missing features?
I think most people would be happy to just put their name on a waitlist. Probably even pay for it ahead of time.
The real drive to go to a scalper is because they're typically setup to make a purchase before you might see an email notification that they're in stock. So your chances are zero. Take that out of the equation, and make a waitlist.
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Re: Video: Do You Even Need A Pro Controller For The Switch 2?
I'm holding off just to get some experience with the joycon anyway. I did the same with the OG Switch, and it made me appreciate the experience even more.
Re: US Retailers Are Playing With Fire With More Switch 2 Cancellations
My Walmart order is pending shipment and they charged my account! LFG!!!
Re: Amphie's First Pokémon Video Delves Into A Haunting Gold & Silver Memory
This was a fun watch!
My favorite Pokemon memory growing up? We were very poor growing up, so we just couldn't afford a Gameboy (let alone the batteries) — the family computer was powerful enough for emulators but it still wasn't the same.
I distinctly remember waking up in the morning one day and holding my hands out like I was holding a Gameboy. I wanted one so bad!
However, my older brother's friend randomly gave me one AND Pokemon Blue. No strings attached. I was ELATED.
(as for Pokemon Gold/Silver... I still only emulated those. Which was an odd experience considering the real time clock features.)
Re: UK Charts: It's The Final Week Before The Switch 2 Floodgates Open
I feel like most of my questions have been answered so far except...
WILL THE DOCK BE LOUD? I'm fearful of a PS3 jet engine
Re: Nintendo Shares Video Detailing New N64 Features For Switch Online
@Jayenkai why bother splitting up the colors with that method? You're basically describing a gaussian blur (+ some geometry) shader, which isn't ideal. In that case, you could just lower the output resolution to your TV.
CRT shaders get into how each subpixel blooms, how they fade and how they might affect each other. The perfect shader would know your display's subpixel layout and match them up, but that would require knowledge that the Switch just doesn't have access to. I've manually set it up on my 4K OLED TV with my Steam Deck, and it looked so good I felt like if I tapped on the TV I would get that "Thunk!" sound.
Here's a good resource if you're curious. The ones that stand out to me the most are Chrono Trigger, Sonic, and Conker.
https://thingsiplay.game.blog/2022/03/08/crt-shader-showcase-for-retroarch/
Re: Nintendo Shares Video Detailing New N64 Features For Switch Online
YESSSSSS
So happy about the CRT filter. It looks like it's more than just scanlines. Maybe closer to my wish of a CRT Royale type filter? (difficult to tell from the video)
That'll be enabled 100%
Re: Shenmue III On Switch 2? Publisher's Latest Tease Suggests It Might Be Happening
I haven't played Shenmue since the Dreamcast. Maybe it's time to finish the story...
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Explains Why Donkey Kong Has Been Redesigned
@HammerKirby Interesting! I'm not sure if I've ever played this version, but you seem to have hit the nail on the head.
Re: Random: Miyamoto Can't Talk About Switch 2, Talks About Switch 2 Anyway
@larryisaman I think that's a really interesting point/question. Given Nintendo's current trajectory with the Switch 2 — backward compatible carts, game share support, dev kits, firmware updates, etc. — can we still assume that they're going to cut off the Switch 1? I can honestly see them overlapping for a lot longer than we're used to.
@8bit-Man it is really interesting. We can only make guesses about Nintendo based on their history, but the one thing that has been most consistent with them is that they like to throw surprise punches. Along the lines of your thinking, it's also interesting that this is the first "2" that they've ever done. For all we know, Nintendo is trying to buck the trend somehow.
Re: Random: Miyamoto Can't Talk About Switch 2, Talks About Switch 2 Anyway
@Duncanballs sorry, I thought about it for a few minutes after I posted that and came to defeat my own argument. I thought I'd deleted my message in time.
But yeah, I can totally see that. It needed to be clear cut that it's a new system, not an expansion.
This is what I posted if anyone else is trying to follow:
Not to beat up a dead horse, but I still think his perspective on the Switch 2 being an expansion of the Switch 1 is why I would have gone with the name Super Switch or Switch DX or whatever.
This isn't a clear jump between generations. It's an expansion on the same idea, something that we haven't seen since NES -> SNES. And even more so now because we're not leaving Switch 1 players or devs/research/code behind.
The only thing "Switch 2" does is scratch the itch for following the tradition of getting a new generation.
(I'm not bitter or anything, I'm just making conversation.)
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Explains Why Donkey Kong Has Been Redesigned
My Nintendo-fu is failing because if you had asked me where this design came from, I would have said old DK arcade cabinets. I get this sort of Mandela effect feeling as soon as I see that this isn't the case. Something about the eyes just takes me back to that era.
For example: https://www.phoenixarcade.com/sites/default/files/dk-full.jpg
Maybe that's what Nintendo was going for, because they've definitely reclaimed the character.
Re: Zelda Fans Are Concerned About The Free Switch 2 Updates, But Don't Worry
LA at 60fps would be great! I'm not really a framerate snob, but something about the framerate drops makes me feel like I'm pushing the Switch too hard and literally cooking the system.
That DOF effect in 4K would be rad though!!
Re: Nintendo Apologises For "Error" With Mention Of Switch 2 VRR TV Support
That's a huge bummer. I hope that a firmware update is still possible!
Re: Looks Like 'Bravely Default' On Switch 2 Will Still Have 0% Encounter Toggle
I'm confused, was he at PAX East? I was just there. I would have loved to bump into him. Also, did I miss a chance to check out the Switch 2?
Re: Opinion: Nintendo's Forgotten The Game With The Most 'Switch 2 Edition' Potential
@StewdaMegaManNerd Sorry I meant the actual act of moving forward with adding it to the Switch 2. Not the invention of a mouse on a console.
Re: Opinion: Nintendo's Forgotten The Game With The Most 'Switch 2 Edition' Potential
I wouldn't be surprised if Mario Maker was the inspiration/catalyst for Nintendo adding mouse mode.
Re: Here's A Look At The Back Of Mario Kart World's Switch 2 Box Art
It feels like looking at the back of the box during the car ride home. Can't wait!
Re: Nintendo May Record Video And Audio From GameChat Sessions On Switch 2
I'm also just concerned for Nintendo's wellbeing. If they really watch us, they're going to realize how bananas their fanbase is.
I can just see Miyamoto's look of disgust when he watches us play Mario Kart.
*(In seriousness, I'm sure this is all an automated process with no real humans unless necessary)
Re: Nintendo May Record Video And Audio From GameChat Sessions On Switch 2
I don't like this at all!
Super creep.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida On Higher Switch 2 Game Prices: "It Was Going To Happen Eventually"
There's a new premium in town and it costs more.
This could open the door to more mid-tier games. Indie games tend to max out around $20, but now with AAA jumping to $80 there's a void for something between indie and AAA.
I think this is a great thing. Not every game has to be either revolutionary or like it was made in a basement.
Re: Rumour: Yuji Horii Might Have Let Slip Some Massive Remake News
Finally, Chrono Resurrection comes to light!
Re: Video: Nintendo Shares More Footage Of F-Zero GX For Switch Online
I've never had a chance to play Star Fox Adventures. I hope it comes to NSO!
Re: PSA: Redownloading Switch eShop Games Has Now Changed With Latest Update
@IOI Yup, I really have no idea. I'm a data hoarder. I've still got texts in my phone from 20 years ago.
Thanks for the clarification tho! Maybe I'll finally free up some valuable SD card space.
Re: PSA: Redownloading Switch eShop Games Has Now Changed With Latest Update
I don't know what's wrong with me, but I refuse to remove games like the ARMS - Global Testpunch because... I don't even know. But I feel like if I remove them then I'll never get them back.
Will this new setup remove those from my list if I archive the game?
Maybe it's a good thing (for me)?
Re: Talking Point: Which Nintendo Series Are You Most Excited To See Return On Switch 2?
Am I the only one who thinks that Game Chat for Splatoon might not work so well?
Imagine playing against a team that could see each other's screens? It's a whole different game.
But, I grew up playing GoldenEye on the 64 with a splitter between two TVs and cardboard taped to cover the other players' screens... maybe I'm just old lol
Re: Poll: GameStop Offers A Tempting Switch 2 Trade-In Deal, But Is It Really Worth It?
Launch Switch with JoyCon that have never had the slightest bit of drift — though I did send them in for the interference fix shortly after I got it. I don't know how it found me, but I'll cherish it forever.
Re: Bravely Default On Switch 2 May Have Removed One Of The Game's Best Features
Well, it's a keycard game so they could probably just patch it in
Re: Random: Masahiro Sakurai Finds Success In Switch 2 Lottery
I mean, you can't play retail games on the dev kit AFAIK
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
@speed_loafer Honestly, around 11:55PM ET I was just refreshing the Switch 2 page waiting for a pre-order button and it redirected me to the waiting in line page.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Walmart handled it like a champ!
It made me wait in line just before midnight. I waited. Then I bought one. I didn't rush it at all.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers First Impressions Of Switch 2 - "It Stands Alone In What It Does"
@NolandC Oh, so it costs come bandwidth to convert from the Switch 2's DP to HDMI. Both the HDMI side and the DP side are fine.
It's not that the tech isn't there, there is a chipset that can do it, but I've heard it's flaky so they probably opted for stability.
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
My SteamDeck's value comes from three things:
1. Being able to drop down to desktop mode with ease.
2. A virtually unlimited library. I have over 1000 Steam games accumulated since Steam's inception, and Epic gives out a game or two every week. Not to mention PC games are generally significantly cheaper which makes your argument about the Steam Deck being more expensive, incorrect.
3. I can customize every aspect of it to make it my perfect fit. From using any controller, to setting the theme.
The Switch is a more curated experience, and that's the real value in it for me. I could never play Splatoon or Mario on the Steam Deck... that would be gross.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers First Impressions Of Switch 2 - "It Stands Alone In What It Does"
I was also thinking yesterday... how loud is the dock going to be? I haven't heard anyone cover this. I've always subconsciously avoided my PS3/4 because of how loud they can get.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers First Impressions Of Switch 2 - "It Stands Alone In What It Does"
@NolandC Again, it's the bandwidth of DP -> HDMI that's a limiting factor. Not HDMI itself.
Re: Nintendo Removes Worrying Cloud Save Note From Select Switch 2 Game Pages
Why am I reading this differently than the article states?
Basically, it's just saying that Slot 1 will be transferrable but not Slot 2. This makes sense, since the OG game doesn't have a second slot.
Re: Sega's Classic 'OutRun' Is Reportedly Getting A Movie Adaptation Led By Michael Bay
This is probably one of the few instances that I approve of Michael Bay being the director. Fast cars, catchy music and explosions sounds like a great time!
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers First Impressions Of Switch 2 - "It Stands Alone In What It Does"
@NolandC There are definitely games that would run just fine at 1440p/120hz (probably even 4k) — Rayman Legends, Sonic Mania, Celeste, Shovel Knight, Super Meat Boy, F-Zero 99, Tetris 99 to name a few.
The limiting factor of 4k120hz is DP -> HDMI bandwidth not horsepower.
Anyway, someone else mentioned that 1440p@120hz is supported.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers First Impressions Of Switch 2 - "It Stands Alone In What It Does"
@Orpheus79V Thanks! I missed that!!
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers First Impressions Of Switch 2 - "It Stands Alone In What It Does"
I would love to hear how well 1440p runs. I've seen it in the system menu but I haven't even heard if 120hz is supported at that resolution.
Re: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Switch 2 Cart Will Apparently Also Work On Switch 1
Yessss!! This has been my biggest question and everyone keeps telling me otherwise.
Very happy to hear that this will work this way. It means that I can always buy the Enhanced edition and know it'll work on the Switch 1 (when the game supports it) rather than buy a separate copy of the Switch 1 if I intend to play that too.
Re: Nintendo Kicks Off Mario Kart World Marketing In Japan With A Trio Of New Trailers
That last trailer makes me so happy about the jump mechanic
Also, I hadn't seen the headlights before (I've been avoiding too many spoilers). I don't know why, but it makes me excited for the atmosphere!
Re: Video: 20+ Things We Still Don't Know About Switch 2
To answer half of one of your questions... a Switch 2 can't be used in a Switch 1 dock.
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/hardware/switch2/compatibility/accessories.html
Re: Best 4K TVs For Nintendo Switch 2
Looks like a few people disagree with me.
That's fine. rtings has been doing a burn-in test running static content for 7 years now and agrees with me with real-world usage. And those panels are from 7 years ago.
If you're really looking for comfort, LG generally has a pretty good warranty specifically for burn-in. (mine is 5 years)
Re: Best 4K TVs For Nintendo Switch 2
OLED burn-in is basically a thing of the past at this point. I wouldn't stress about it at all.
I calibrate my LG C1(OLED 4K 120hz) with a color meter every few months — to show you how picky I am — and I've never once noticed any sort of burn-in. I keep the brightness at 100% as well.
Re: Video: 20+ Things We Still Don't Know About Switch 2
@Spider-Kev Are the pins different even for Enhanced Edition carts? I ask specifically because the text I've been seeing for these is that it contains the Switch 1 version + the enhancement.
(So cool to see my question make it to the video tho!)
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@Jester676 Wait what?
The PS5 is an iteration of the PS series. My point was that Nintendo tends to make innovation strides for each generation, so, to your example, this feels more like a Switch Pro/PS5 Pro than a leap to the next number in the Nintendo lineage.
I'm not trying to throw bad vibes. I'm actually really excited. It's just an observation.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
It's feeling more and more like this really should have been called the Super Switch over the Switch 2. The developers seem excited about the improvements over the original Switch, but there doesn't seem to be anyone saying that it brings brand new ideas to the table.
I mean, this is perfect for me. I'm honestly pumped to get one. It's exactly what I've been wanting over the years. But still, I think it's missing a little of Nintendo's iconic "let's innovate with this wtf quirk" like a second screen on the back or something.
Re: Physical 'Switch 2 Editions' Confirmed To Have Everything On The Game Card, Says Nintendo
@Serpenterror That's what I'm hoping for!
So, for example, if I buy a BOTW:S2E cart for myself, then I can let my kid put the same cart into her hand-me-down Switch 1. Saves from buying 2 editions of the same game.
But that actually begs the question... if I play my profile on the Switch 1, will my save file transfer? I'm assuming not, because how would it reconcile the missing features?
Re: Watch: Got Questions About Switch 2? Ask Alex - Live!
Can you put a Switch 2 Enhanced game cart (e.g. BOTW) into a Switch 1 and play the OG Switch Game?
Also, if I play my profile on a Switch 1, will my save file from the Switch 2 Enhanced Edition be accessible on the Switch 1?
Re: Japanese Retailer Is Asking The Public How To Combat Switch 2 Scalpers
I think most people would be happy to just put their name on a waitlist. Probably even pay for it ahead of time.
The real drive to go to a scalper is because they're typically setup to make a purchase before you might see an email notification that they're in stock. So your chances are zero. Take that out of the equation, and make a waitlist.