Sure more people can be good, but for mobile more people are NEEDED for a game to be profitable.
What we don't talk about here is development time/cost vs price of game, we should also talk about the fact that APPLE will take its 30% cut off any profits, so its one thing to say that more people will be active on a mobile platform, but its rather clear that you NEED more interest otherwise the game can't profit as much.
@Toadsfriend Something I'm looking into for Xmas, as thats when I'm with my gaming family and friends and this would be an awesome game for that, but I can't justify it for just two of us.
@erv Still playing 2, I like it quite a bit, surprisingly, not the smoothest game around, screen tear and all, but the characters/action even the story are all pretty decent, so If I finish it in time I'll pick up the first since I've never played it.
@bolt05 While I'd agree the 3DS price is still quite high (thanks NN3DS) the 2DS is quite affordable, and perfect for the audience this accessory is targeting, they should even bundle it with SUN/Moon and a 2DS for Christmas.
Nintendo Has proven (when need be) that they can produce beautiful graphics and 60 fps, eg: Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros, and produces extremely lovely graphics when speed/fluidity isn't as important, and BoTW will be one of these games.
Some sort of mobile streetpass mii app for smartphones would be awesome, yes I get the fact that it would take away the idea of carrying your system, but it doesn't have to be fully integrated into mobile, but more as a hotspot to allow you to collect data from other streetpassers that gets funneled back to your portable...
also on a side note talking about mobile apps, it would be great if Nintendo/pokemon co. would develop a pokemon training app, like the mini games in the main series, to train your 'mon in quick sessions when you don't have time to pull out your portable, this would also link back to BOX and the main games...
@YouSeemFRAZZLED eh, I guess, and you got me excited for 1/3 of a second because Sony doesn't seem to promote this, and the I figured out why, if you don't live in the US you can't be a part of it, so this is only an American rewards program.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Stingy compared to? There really hasn't been any rewards program from Sony or Microsoft, so it's a bonus, just not a very good one at the moment.
It was cool at first, but it's been waay too focused on Miitomo and discounts, without anything unique really being offered. I'm sure as more mobile games get released by Nintendo (Mario Run, AC and Fire Emblem) MyNintendo may become more interesting, but in general the "rewards" lack any real want to try and get more coins, which is ultimately a failure.
Currently I dont really care that there is a really short window to redeem my points, because there really isn't anything to use them on.
It's really hard to convey to people that 7 is a pretty good score. Inflated scores don't help and ruin expectations.
People were praising the Last of Us because the story was exceptional, and thus gave the game a 95, but many many people I talked to couldn't even get past the first few hours.
I tried twice until I finally decided that the story was the most important aspect, so I reduced the difficulty and basically played it for its story, but even on easy was still such a frustrating slog of a mess gameplay wise. The story was well done and its a beautiful game, but there's no way that those aspects should out weigh gameplay, it is after all, a game.
@Grandpa_Pixel I'd say its worse if they're not talking about you. Nintendo can (we'll see) take all the criticisms and run with it, bettering their current situation. But we all know there's always someone who will complain.
@Simbabbad exactly what I've been saying in other comments, stop focusing on the non existent and play whats around, there are TONS of great games, and I KNOW no one has played them all, some people just like to whine.
Sure there aren't a lot of heavy hitters for Wii U, but we already knew this was it. It's sad that people can't see any enjoyment out of these, feel free to play other games (on other consoles, or older games) to fill your time, but being irritating gets you nowhere.
We already know no one has THAT much time to play everything they want (everyone talking about how huge their backlog is), but we also know that so much goes under the radar, things that we missed when we were playing that 120hour RPG, so look back and enjoy past gems, or hibernate I guess.
I played so many hidden gems this summer, it's actually nice when there are quiet times to actually discover all those smaller or niche titles.
NEW is nice, but this is why backlogs exist, so spend some time in the past, it's quite rewarding.
So many trolls on NintendoLife like to comment on opinion pieces/articles etc.. as being a slow news day, as if sites are soley there to regurgitate "new" information. These things add a little depth and are an aside to the random bits of information, and give us some insight to those who work at Nintendolife. I appreciate said opinions, interviews, polls, history etc... and hope Nintendolife staff continues to show us a little bit more into their interests,/personality, after all they are people too.
@Tlink7 Those problems don't happen at launch, you're better off waiting 2 or so years and then decide if there are enough games...
See the Wii U had something like 27 retail games at launch (in NA), and strong (if uninventive) 3rd part support. Don't get me wrong a lot of it was quick cash grabs, but the games were there... it wasn't until the next year or two where companies started pulling out one by one.
So Sure there need to be games to sell the NX but the NX also needs to sell for there to be games... catch 22... we can only wait and see.
This Guy...ugh... says whatever he needs to so that we believe that he believes. But it's BS, why? sure there is the first out to market new IP that he's claiming and that is mostly true, but the rest? Ports and cash grabs.
Also a survival horror game isn't exactly a riveting new type of game, sure certain mechanics were inventive, but saying much more is a stretch of the imagination. And look UBI already took the most interesting mechanic tossed it in the trash and released it as Zombii, soooo.
Just reiterating that Just Dance 2017 ( a dying brand these days, that still sells the most on the original Wii) will be out for NX reinforces the cash-grabbiness of Ubisoft, a port of a 6 month old game (about when the NX should launch, we'll assume it's a launch title).
Look its fine if Ubi Just wants to keep making sequels, something they are keen on doing, but don't pretend that your half-assed launch creations are gonna get you the recognition you think you deserve.
Yes Ubi will always talk up a new console, and will always be there first, it's the time when there are the least amount of options, and no style has solidified so there will always be room for sales.
My external drive on my Wii U is ancient, and I should probably get a new one before something like this happens. But YES for a cloud based save, yes for allowing your save data to move with you (by your ID or save to SDcard etc.. and not locked to the system).
While true, and that would be awesome, there are a lot of Wii games where that wouldn't make much sense, since you need wiimote motion controls to play. Smooth Moves is a prime example of why Gamepad only play would be useless.
except you see for the simple fact that BotW was playable on Wii U @ E3, the same E3 that The Last Guardian was finally playable.... so... there's that.
Putting the game in the hands of people create some sense that it is indeed a real thing, that it is actually coming.
@rjejr I'm not sure what no NX news has to do with the Wii U version of BotW, not directly anyways.
yes, the game has seen multiple delays, So has FFXV, so has the Last Guardian, but that doesn't make them any less likely to come out for their respective platforms. BotW in 2015 would not be the game it's setup to become now. maybe those aren't the best examples seeing as how they've been in development for eternities, but they were never playable, where as BotW has only be playable on Wii U.
I don't think BotW is a game with "lots of people on screen at once" and if that is the game you are looking for, I don't think the NX version will change your mind. Thus far it's about a solo quest for survival, this has even been stated by Nintendo, so I don't expect to see many many people on screen (ala Hyrule Warriors or any other action game).
Don't bet your house because you are right, Nintendo is unpredictable.
I'm not sure you should posit new Amiibo for guaranteeing the Wii U version, (which is weird anyways since you're apt to believe it is likely to be canned) because I'd think (those of us who like amiibo anyways) that Nintendo will continue with amiibo functionality in NX.
All I can say is we've seen enough to be convinced it's coming (for Wii U), at least some of us have. And like I said before there's a precedent for this exact thing, with a Zelda game no less, to release simultaneously on two consoles. They (consoles) are not the same, they are not competing, the Wii U is dead, Nintendo knows this, they knew it with the GC when they release Twilight Princess, so I don't see any reason to not recoup some of their expenses on a Wii U release.
@rjejr You actually think BotW could possibly be canned on Wii U??
Box Art, gameplay, never mind the thousands of hours of work that has gone into it (yaya I know it wouldn't be fully wasted), the Wii U's high profile last hurrah, to ultimately scrap it?
Also, we already have a precedent for this, it's called Twilight Princess, so BotW Wii U will definitely be released.
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Re: Michel Ancel Says "The Tech is Ready" for Ambitious New Beyond Good & Evil Game
@JLPick mainly because Ubi is known not to be trusted
Re: Michel Ancel Says "The Tech is Ready" for Ambitious New Beyond Good & Evil Game
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You're a riot!!
Re: Editorial: Some Context on the Nintendo NX 'This Week' Claims
something will happen, sometime, in some form, somewhere, some how...
Re: Super Mario Run Notification Sign Ups Reach 20 Million
Sure more people can be good, but for mobile more people are NEEDED for a game to be profitable.
What we don't talk about here is development time/cost vs price of game, we should also talk about the fact that APPLE will take its 30% cut off any profits, so its one thing to say that more people will be active on a mobile platform, but its rather clear that you NEED more interest otherwise the game can't profit as much.
Re: Paper Mario: Color Splash Sales Flatten Out Amid a Wave of New Releases
@Toadsfriend Something I'm looking into for Xmas, as thats when I'm with my gaming family and friends and this would be an awesome game for that, but I can't justify it for just two of us.
Re: Rumour: Darksiders: Warmastered Edition Has Been Delayed
@erv Still playing 2, I like it quite a bit, surprisingly, not the smoothest game around, screen tear and all, but the characters/action even the story are all pretty decent, so If I finish it in time I'll pick up the first since I've never played it.
Re: Scizor Arrives in the Pokkén Tournament Arcade Very Soon
@abbyhitter which they then have to give a portion back to Nintendo...
Re: Video: Get Yourself In The Halloween Mood With This Look At Zombies Ate My Neighbors
re-release please, and thank you! (too bad I'm dreaming)
Re: Review: Disney Magical World 2 (3DS)
I've been wondering this whole time "they really needed a sequel?" I guess they are still making money off Frozen: Olaf's Quest.
Re: Poll: Exceptional Graphics or 60fps, Which is More Important for the NX Generation?
@UK-Nintendo So your definition is HD = beautiful Graphics, because Mario Galaxy would like to disagree with you.
Re: Poll: Exceptional Graphics or 60fps, Which is More Important for the NX Generation?
@UK-Nintendo elaborate, not sure what you are implying?
Re: Gallery: The Pokémon Z-Ring Packaging Shows That It's a Truly Plastic Fantastic Add-On
@bolt05 While I'd agree the 3DS price is still quite high (thanks NN3DS) the 2DS is quite affordable, and perfect for the audience this accessory is targeting, they should even bundle it with SUN/Moon and a 2DS for Christmas.
Re: Poll: Exceptional Graphics or 60fps, Which is More Important for the NX Generation?
Nintendo Has proven (when need be) that they can produce beautiful graphics and 60 fps, eg: Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros, and produces extremely lovely graphics when speed/fluidity isn't as important, and BoTW will be one of these games.
Re: Editorial: Reminiscing on Hoarding StreetPass Hits, and Why Any NX 'Portable' Should Keep Them Alive
Some sort of mobile streetpass mii app for smartphones would be awesome, yes I get the fact that it would take away the idea of carrying your system, but it doesn't have to be fully integrated into mobile, but more as a hotspot to allow you to collect data from other streetpassers that gets funneled back to your portable...
also on a side note talking about mobile apps, it would be great if Nintendo/pokemon co. would develop a pokemon training app, like the mini games in the main series, to train your 'mon in quick sessions when you don't have time to pull out your portable, this would also link back to BOX and the main games...
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@YouSeemFRAZZLED eh, I guess, and you got me excited for 1/3 of a second because Sony doesn't seem to promote this, and the I figured out why, if you don't live in the US you can't be a part of it, so this is only an American rewards program.
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@Grumblevolcano Good to know, I miss the digital Deluxe Promotion...
Re: Talking Point: The Problems With My Nintendo So Far, and Why All's Not Lost
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Stingy compared to? There really hasn't been any rewards program from Sony or Microsoft, so it's a bonus, just not a very good one at the moment.
Re: SteamWorld Heist Releases on the Wii U eShop on 20th October in North America
I'm tempted to get the physical version even though I already have Dig.
Re: Poll: Six Months On - How Do You Feel About My Nintendo?
It was cool at first, but it's been waay too focused on Miitomo and discounts, without anything unique really being offered. I'm sure as more mobile games get released by Nintendo (Mario Run, AC and Fire Emblem) MyNintendo may become more interesting, but in general the "rewards" lack any real want to try and get more coins, which is ultimately a failure.
Currently I dont really care that there is a really short window to redeem my points, because there really isn't anything to use them on.
Re: Review: Yo-kai Watch 2: Bony Spirits & Fleshy Souls (3DS)
@MailOrderNinja they like to state the obvious, its easier just to ignore them than to feed them.
Re: The Wii Is Getting A New Retail Game This November
It's also getting just Dance 2017, so and who knows maybe 18 to infinity.
Re: Review: Mario Party: Star Rush (3DS)
It's really hard to convey to people that 7 is a pretty good score. Inflated scores don't help and ruin expectations.
People were praising the Last of Us because the story was exceptional, and thus gave the game a 95, but many many people I talked to couldn't even get past the first few hours.
I tried twice until I finally decided that the story was the most important aspect, so I reduced the difficulty and basically played it for its story, but even on easy was still such a frustrating slog of a mess gameplay wise. The story was well done and its a beautiful game, but there's no way that those aspects should out weigh gameplay, it is after all, a game.
Re: Dylan Cuthbert Voices His Thoughts on Star Fox Zero
@Grandpa_Pixel I'd say its worse if they're not talking about you. Nintendo can (we'll see) take all the criticisms and run with it, bettering their current situation. But we all know there's always someone who will complain.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Has No Set Formula for Hardware Reveals, But NX is Testing Fans' Patience
@Simbabbad exactly what I've been saying in other comments, stop focusing on the non existent and play whats around, there are TONS of great games, and I KNOW no one has played them all, some people just like to whine.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Most Anticipated Wii U and 3DS Games For the Rest of 2016?
Sure there aren't a lot of heavy hitters for Wii U, but we already knew this was it. It's sad that people can't see any enjoyment out of these, feel free to play other games (on other consoles, or older games) to fill your time, but being irritating gets you nowhere.
We already know no one has THAT much time to play everything they want (everyone talking about how huge their backlog is), but we also know that so much goes under the radar, things that we missed when we were playing that 120hour RPG, so look back and enjoy past gems, or hibernate I guess.
I played so many hidden gems this summer, it's actually nice when there are quiet times to actually discover all those smaller or niche titles.
NEW is nice, but this is why backlogs exist, so spend some time in the past, it's quite rewarding.
Re: Random: Mario Is Younger Than His Mighty Moustache Suggests
that beer belly says otherwise....
Re: Editorial: Rediscovering the Gems of the Wii U Library
So many trolls on NintendoLife like to comment on opinion pieces/articles etc.. as being a slow news day, as if sites are soley there to regurgitate "new" information. These things add a little depth and are an aside to the random bits of information, and give us some insight to those who work at Nintendolife. I appreciate said opinions, interviews, polls, history etc... and hope Nintendolife staff continues to show us a little bit more into their interests,/personality, after all they are people too.
Re: Interview: Shin'en Multimedia Explains How FAST Racing NEO's Future Pack DLC Got on the Grid
Please Nintendo of America bring over the retail release , I mean c'mon, what else you got for Wii U?
Re: Shovel Knight Confirmed for Surprise Role in Yooka-Laylee
@Anti-Matter no need to worry, I'm pretty sure BotW is the last nintendo published retail Wii U game
Re: Feature: Five Franchises That Deserve A Fresh Chance on the Nintendo NX
Another Animal Crossing,
A new Mario,
Wave Race,
1080,
Advance/Battalion Wars!
Re: Reminder: More Nintendo Selects Titles Arrive in Europe Next Week
@MJInnocent they are the ultimate troll.
Re: Ubisoft CEO: "Nintendo Has Learned from the Wii U"
@Tlink7 Those problems don't happen at launch, you're better off waiting 2 or so years and then decide if there are enough games...
See the Wii U had something like 27 retail games at launch (in NA), and strong (if uninventive) 3rd part support. Don't get me wrong a lot of it was quick cash grabs, but the games were there... it wasn't until the next year or two where companies started pulling out one by one.
So Sure there need to be games to sell the NX but the NX also needs to sell for there to be games... catch 22... we can only wait and see.
Re: Ubisoft CEO: "Nintendo Has Learned from the Wii U"
@allav866 I'm pretty sure Nintendo already said it would not use the Wii moniker, so we're beyond that at least.
Re: Nintendo NX Is "Fantastic" And "Something New", Says Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot
This Guy...ugh... says whatever he needs to so that we believe that he believes. But it's BS, why? sure there is the first out to market new IP that he's claiming and that is mostly true, but the rest? Ports and cash grabs.
Also a survival horror game isn't exactly a riveting new type of game, sure certain mechanics were inventive, but saying much more is a stretch of the imagination. And look UBI already took the most interesting mechanic tossed it in the trash and released it as Zombii, soooo.
Just reiterating that Just Dance 2017 ( a dying brand these days, that still sells the most on the original Wii) will be out for NX reinforces the cash-grabbiness of Ubisoft, a port of a 6 month old game (about when the NX should launch, we'll assume it's a launch title).
Look its fine if Ubi Just wants to keep making sequels, something they are keen on doing, but don't pretend that your half-assed launch creations are gonna get you the recognition you think you deserve.
Yes Ubi will always talk up a new console, and will always be there first, it's the time when there are the least amount of options, and no style has solidified so there will always be room for sales.
Re: Editorial: Losing It All - When a Wii U's External Hard Drive Dies
My external drive on my Wii U is ancient, and I should probably get a new one before something like this happens. But YES for a cloud based save, yes for allowing your save data to move with you (by your ID or save to SDcard etc.. and not locked to the system).
Re: New Version-Exclusive Pokémon, Pokémon Refresh and More Shown Off for Sun and Moon
Sailor Moon-esque Eevee Z-Move!!! while boosting stats are great, I wish it was an actual attack.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Continued Commitment to the 3DS Makes Sense
I think Nintendo likes money, the 3DS is still printing it so of course they will continue to support it. fin.
Re: Review: LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Wii U)
@Phin68 prepare yourself for long load times, in an otherwise great game!
Re: Hardware Review: Pokémon GO Plus
@SLIGEACH_EIRE agreed, and doubtful the step counter adds much to the cost. Here in Canada it's $45, I'd happily purchase it for $20
Re: Hardware Review: Pokémon GO Plus
@Anti-Matter were you expecting it not to be?
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th September (North America)
@holygeez03
While true, and that would be awesome, there are a lot of Wii games where that wouldn't make much sense, since you need wiimote motion controls to play. Smooth Moves is a prime example of why Gamepad only play would be useless.
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
@rjejr
except you see for the simple fact that BotW was playable on Wii U @ E3, the same E3 that The Last Guardian was finally playable.... so... there's that.
Putting the game in the hands of people create some sense that it is indeed a real thing, that it is actually coming.
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
@rjejr I'm not sure what no NX news has to do with the Wii U version of BotW, not directly anyways.
yes, the game has seen multiple delays, So has FFXV, so has the Last Guardian, but that doesn't make them any less likely to come out for their respective platforms. BotW in 2015 would not be the game it's setup to become now. maybe those aren't the best examples seeing as how they've been in development for eternities, but they were never playable, where as BotW has only be playable on Wii U.
I don't think BotW is a game with "lots of people on screen at once" and if that is the game you are looking for, I don't think the NX version will change your mind. Thus far it's about a solo quest for survival, this has even been stated by Nintendo, so I don't expect to see many many people on screen (ala Hyrule Warriors or any other action game).
Don't bet your house because you are right, Nintendo is unpredictable.
I'm not sure you should posit new Amiibo for guaranteeing the Wii U version, (which is weird anyways since you're apt to believe it is likely to be canned) because I'd think (those of us who like amiibo anyways) that Nintendo will continue with amiibo functionality in NX.
All I can say is we've seen enough to be convinced it's coming (for Wii U), at least some of us have. And like I said before there's a precedent for this exact thing, with a Zelda game no less, to release simultaneously on two consoles. They (consoles) are not the same, they are not competing, the Wii U is dead, Nintendo knows this, they knew it with the GC when they release Twilight Princess, so I don't see any reason to not recoup some of their expenses on a Wii U release.
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
@rjejr You actually think BotW could possibly be canned on Wii U??
Box Art, gameplay, never mind the thousands of hours of work that has gone into it (yaya I know it wouldn't be fully wasted), the Wii U's high profile last hurrah, to ultimately scrap it?
Also, we already have a precedent for this, it's called Twilight Princess, so BotW Wii U will definitely be released.
Re: New 3DS Stays on Top in Japan As Wii U Holds Top Spot Among Home Consoles, For Now
regardless, those numbers all around are kinda terrible.
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
@james_mueller Shatner would have been PERFECT.
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Anti-Matter It should also be Colour Splash here in Canada, sadly we'll be stuck with Color Splash, darn USA and it's "influence"
Re: Video: Nintendo Releases Showcase Video for Paper Mario: Color Splash
@allav866 I feel like it was almost intentional... but didn't succeed.
Re: Pokémon GO Has Lost 79 Percent of its Paying Population
the other 79%
Re: Talking Point: Unique and Affordable - Nintendo's NX Needs to Avoid Direct Competition With PlayStation and Xbox
@King_Johobo I'd rather the NX continue to provide fluid beautiful 1080P 60fps gaming