PharoneTheGnome

Considering that Sony already has a MUCH MORE powerful home console (PS5) than the Switch 2 AND already has a handheld system that connects to the PS5, it's not hard to see the next evolution of the two being put together.

I honestly think that having the console and portable as two separate things that work together is the right approach.

Everybody likes to taught the fact that the Nintendo Switch/Switch2 can play all games completely in handheld mode, but they never talk about the fact that the handheld mode is a lot less powerful than the docked mode.

If Sony shoots for at least that same handheld quality, I don't see any reason they can't accomplish it. It's not like the Switch 2 in handheld mode is anywhere even in the same world as the quality of a PS5. Even in docked mode the Switch 2 isn't in the same ballpark as a PS5. So, why would anyone expect the handheld PS5 (er PS6) to be in the same ballpark as the console version of the PS5/6?

@AshleyGamer64 @SuperBro64 That's totally understandable. I just prefer the 2d side scrolling Donkey Kong games. I will end up giving this new Donkey Kong a try though.

It is the same reason that I prefer the side-scrolling Metroid games over Metroid Prime.

I like a structured 2d environment to play through. I feel like the designers put more thought and consideration in to every detail when making a 2d side-scrolling game than they do with big open-world style games.

This is also why I prefer Super Mario Bros Wonder over Super Mario Oddysey.

@progx I'd be ok with a brand new Donkey Kong that follows the traditional style found in Tropical Freeze.

There's nothing inherently wrong with Donkey Kong Bananza. It's just not a main-line Donkey Kong game. It's an open-world game with Donkey Kong in it.

I'm curious as to what the customer's rating on this game will be more than I am the rating of websites for whom their whole existence is based on the companies they are reviewing.

I mean, honestly, if they said the game was pure hot garbage, what would Nintendo say? Would they find that they no longer can review said company's games? Makes you wonder.

Just give me a Switch 2 version of Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze with added levels and I will be happy.

I have no interest in an open-world version of a game series that's supposed to be based on timed interactions. Open-world game design completely changes the point of a Donkey Kong game.

I can't tell the difference from this video. Maybe I will see the difference when I purchase the upgrade and check it out myself.

Him saying that Nintendo is more in touch with their customers is just more proof of how OUT of touch CEOs are with their customers.

The Switch 2 is probably going to show that to the greatest degree yet.

The system (yes I own a Switch 2) is a great system that is arguably much less powerful than its competitors in the current genre; Xbox Series X and Playstation 5.

It cost roughly the same, but it is much less powerful while at the same time the games cost more on the Switch 2 than they did on the original Switch... AND... most of the games require a PAID FOR upgrade if you want Switch 2 quality for your already-purchased-and-paid-for Switch 1 games.

The ONLY thing Switch 2 has over the XBox X and PS5 is portability, and when you take the Switch 2 in to portable mode, it gets even LESS powerful than it was when it was docked. Is it a benefit? For first party games, yes. For third party games, not so much if it is a high performance demanding game.

To top it all off, you can purchase a handheld for the PS5 to use that utilizes the power of your PS5, so technically, the PS5 has a more powerful portable mode available if you pay for it.

Nintendo in touch with their customers... not so much.

@Medic_alert exactly what you said.

Buying a game keycard gives you the worst of both worlds; digital and physical. You HAVE to have the cartridge in the system to play it AND you HAVE to download the game from the eshop to play it.

It's literally the WORST of both media put in to one.

And... you don't even get it at a cheaper price.

It's just completely pointless.

I still have not tried this game. At some point, I might get around to it.

You buy a game, you own the game. Period. Full stop. End of story.

Anything else they say beyond that is complete garbage. Governments should enact laws that protect consumers and stop allowing companies to dictate what they can do with the products THEY BOUGHT AFTER THEY PAID FOR IT.

If a company wants to take away a game that you paid for or in any way make said PAID FOR game not playable in any way, they should be forced by the law to give the customer a full refund.

Right now, companies are committing theft against their customers, and the longer that governments allow it, the worse it is going to get.

How about an update on the UK sales?

My list:

1 Hogwarts Legacy
2 Cyberpunk 2077
3 Bravely Default
4 Yakuza
5 Rune Factory
6 Mario kart World

If an artist uses AI to be more efficient in their work, I have no issue with that.

But... in this case, it was just crap quality AI. That sucks.

@Shmoo its based on consumer reviews. If this was based on what NL's opinion, some of those games wouldn't even be mentioned.

I do find it hilarious though that a game that got absolutely horrible reviews for being a buggy mess when it first came out and was being sold for a discount shortly after is suddenly a top tier game for the Switch 2 now that it is available on the platform. I am speaking of Cyberpunk 2077 of course.

The game was absolutely trashed by reviewers when it came out on originally.

Don't get me wrong. I own Cyberpunk 2077 on the PS5 and think its a good game. Its just funny how drastically the opinion on this game has changed since it came out.

I'll never understand the obsession with Zelda BOTW and Zelda TOTK. They just literally do nothing for me. Sorry. Not my kind of game. I know I can not be alone in that.

I prefer Hogwarts, Yakuza, Bravely Default, and Mario Kart. I would put the new Donkey Kong in that list (and will buy it), but I absolutely 100% prefer the 2D side scrolling Donkey Kong games over this new open world style.

@Medic_alert Agreed 100%

@prw_88 You have to keep in mind that there are two different consumer groups involved here (if not more).

First we have the GAMERS. These are the consumers like you and me that know the games in and out, front to back, exactly where each power up or collectable is in a game, etc. We are the gamers that buy consoles and games at release because "duh why wouldn't you".

Then there is the other consumer group. These are the consumers that buy their game systems for a little casual gaming, party games, for their grand children to play when visiting, etc. This is a very large consumer group. This is the consumer group that basically made the Wii in to a house hold name. Likewise, this is the consumer group that continues to buy Switch, Switch Lite, and games that are very old at this point like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

Here's what I guess is happening.

The Mario Kart World commercials have been hitting everywhere like mad. You can't watch a video with out eventually getting a MKW commercial.

The second group of consumers are getting inundated with these MKW commercials. A lot of them probably never owned Mario Kart 8 Deluxe or even know much about it. They have a Switch because they bought it for party games or that one game their grand kids just have to play every time they visit.

Now that they have been advertised to over and over and over on MKW, they go looking to find out more about it. And... they find that it is not available for their Switch. But... there's this MK8D that IS AVAILABLE and it has reviews praising how great and amazing the game is (from years ago) on the Switch.

So... in leu of buying MKW, they buy MK8D... because it runs on their Switch. These are not people that are going to go buy a Switch 2 just to play MKW.

@Woodyshoe I think you nailed it on the head there.

I suspect that the Switch2 is mainly being seen as a Switch Pro for most people. The huge surge of purchases for the Switch 2 at its release could potentially drop down to that of the PS5 Pro eventually as people that LIKE their Switch a lot don't necessarily like it enough to spend $500+ dollars to get what essentially is the Switch Pro.

I think the thing that will drive the decision to make the leap from Switch to Switch 2 is going to be how good and enticing the first party Switch 2 exclusive games turn out to be.

That being said, if it's just a couple games, that might not be enough to get a lot of people to plop down their money to make the upgrade to Switch 2 at least for a few years more.

I look at this like what we saw with the Wii and WiiU. The WiiU was arguably a leap forward for Wii consumers. But... not a lot of people that owned a Wii spent the money to get that WiiU.

I know many relatives and friends that still have their Wii and never bought a WiiU. Most of my friends and relatives that own a Switch have no intention of buying a Switch 2. It has nothing to do with it not being good enough. It has everything to do with the fact that the Switch (just like the Wii) served a purpose for them as a fun family/party gaming system they could play every now and then. They don't intend to buy a Switch 2 anytime soon (or ever really), unless it got super cheap and was a no brainer to replace their existing Switch.

@larryisaman its interesting though that for me, the Switch is predominantly a home console.

As for handheld, to me at least, the 3DS is still the king. When I leave to go to the Philippines for vacation next month, will be carrying my 3DS; not my Switch.

But... that's just me.

@Ryu_Niiyama Since you have played it on Swtich2, how does it compare to the PS5 version? I have it on PS5 and it is incredibly beautiful on that system. I'm curious how it compares on the new Nintendo hardware.

@Medic_alert I was planning to repurchase Hogwarts on the Switch2 when ever Nintendo finally gets more systems in stock, but if this S1/S2 upgrade thing works.... I might be tempted to buy a used copy of Hogwarts on S1 while I wait.

@Medic_alert Interesting, so can you buy the S1 version of Hogwartz, purchase the upgrade for S2, and then return the S1 version and the S2 version continue to work? Something about that seems wrong, but we are talking about the world of magic here lol.

I wonder if it ever makes you reinsert the S1 version of Hogwarts in the future.

Number 3 LOL!

But seriously, I don't think it should be a surprise to anyone that the main launch title for the next generation of a VERY popular console machine is topping sales charts. It's a no brainer.

The Nintendo Switch was a highly popular console that has continued to sell well for a very long time. They could put out poop in a box and as long as it had the word Switch on it, it would sale a ton the first year.

This is the launch title for that console, so... yeah. Of course it is going to sell a ton.

@KingMike that is a really good point. How does the bricking of these systems effect the ability to play Game Key Card cartidges for the unlucky individual that buys a banned Switch2 in the future (with out knowing it was banned)?

If this makes it so you can not play a Game Key Card game simply because the system can not go online to download the game that the game key card is for, then they have effectively BRICKED the system. That definitely should be protected by consumer protection laws in many countries.

Pirating is bad. I get that.

Bricking hardware because some idiot used pirated software is also bad though. Someone paid money to buy that piece of hardware, and no company should have the ability to destroy a purchased product AFTER it is paid for.

Nintendo should ban the account, but it should not brick the system.

There should be consumer protection laws to protect against that sort of thing. Of course, no consumer is going to have the money to fight Nintendo in court though. Therefore, some country's AG should take it upon themself to sue Nintendo on behalf of all consumers affected by their actions.

Companies should NOT have the right to destroy a product that someone has bought. It is unethical and straight up wrong.

Again, piracy is WRONG. Destroying paid-for products by the company who sold the product to a consumer is ALSO WRONG.

Gamecube on the Switch2 hit your nostalgia feelers becuase it is the point in history that meant the most to you. For some of us that was Nintendo 64, Super Nintendo, and Nintendo.

For me, it was the Nintendo Entertainment System. That was my first big home console, and playing Excitebike was my nostalgia overload. The only other game that really hits the nostalgia for me as far as Nintendo is RC Pro Am.

My true nostalgia though is the Commodore 64c. C=64 will always be more special to me than any console machine.

It all has to do with the generation you grew up in and when you first got your true game that you loved. Pool of Radiance on the C=64 was that for me.

Reality is that people are buying the Switch 2 for one reason... First party games.

That's it.

If you can play the game on any other console, you will play it there.

Why do you think the new Mario Kart World and DK Bananaza are Switch2 only titles? They could have made Switch1 versions.

They chose not to because they know millions will buy them for their EXISTING Switch1 systems rather than buying a Switch2 just to play those games.

This isn't rocket science here people. Nintendo knows they have to force you to buy the new system in order to play their new first party games OR the vast majority will wait until later to decide if they want to upgrade to the new system.

It's common business tactics.

Not sure why this would be a surprise for anyone.

Why would you buy Cyberpunk 2077 to play on Nintendo Switch 2 when you already have it on the PS5 which will technically run it BETTER than the Switch 2 purely because the PS5 has superior hardware?

The only reason to buy it on Switch2 is if you want to play it on the go OR you don't own another current generation console like PS5 or Xbox.

And, even then, people don't talk about it much, but the PS5 does have a handheld you can play these games on. They stream from your PS5 to the handheld.

Before you say that is lame streaming stuff, you praised the fact that DK Bananza streamed the game to the Switch1.

Game looks fun but I don't have a Switch 2. I only have a Switch, so because of that, I'm out.

I own a Xbox, PS5, Switch, PC, and various other gaming consoles and such. I see no reason to care if any one of them competes or not with another. It all boils down to which one I want to play which game on at any given time.

They said you can share it to Switch, so does that mean you can buy it for Switch if it can play on it?

I love my PS5. If and when I get a Switch 2, it will sit right next to my PS5 just like my current Switch does.

Both systems are great.

One of these years, I might add a XBOX Series X to the group. That xbox membership is looking mighty tempting.

@premko1 If it was super cheap, then yes I would buy them.

Game key cards are the worst of both physical and digital all packed in to one.

1. You have to have the cartridge inserted to play the game
2. You have to download the game to your system to play

I'm not sure why anyone would ever choose a game key card purchase over that of digital or physical.

3DS fits in your pocket a heck of a lot easier and it's screens are protected while doing it. Just saying ;P

I have Persona 4 Golden on my PS Vita. Works great. I'm not sure I need a remake of it as well.

Holy crap Batman! That's some insane pricing there.

(O.o) <(What...?)

(>.>) <(Hold on a second...)

(>.<) <(Oh for crying out loud.!)

Plain and simple, I will not be buying it nor anything from any company related to him.

It's not bad, but I have seen some really, really good Pokemon merchandise before. Some of the statues are insanely awesome.

I would say that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen someone say at that level in a game company, but...

"You think you do, but you don't"... Blizzard

"Casuals don't deserve to kill Nagafen"... Daybreak Games

It's kinda funny just how incredibly stupid some of the people are that run game development companies. It's almost as if they have game design/development knowledge but absolutely zero business knowledge.... oh hmmm

Smartest thing you could do is go to the Nintendo site, login to your account, and click the button to be put on the list for preorder directly from Nintendo.

This is exactly how I bought my PS5 back during the period where it was completely impossible to buy one in store or online. Sony offered the same thing where you login to your account and select that you are interested in purchasing when one comes available.

With in 3 months, I got an email from Sony, logged in to make my purchase, and it showed up in the mail that week. I dealt with zero scalpers or hassles.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure why I should be impressed with a comparison between the Switch 2 to the PS4.

The Switch 2 is current gen where as the PS4 is not only last gen, but it is doubly so due to the fact that PS5 has a PRO version out now. PS4 is like a 1.5 generation behind current gen at this point.

I'm not really seeing many games on this list that wouldn't run equally on the existing Switch system.

I mean, unless I'm missing something, most of these games would work just fine on the existing Switch.

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Money talks. Angry comments on the internet doesn't.

It's really that simple.

@johnedwin hence the reason why I bought a PS5 and not the newest XBOX. Sony got my business rather than Microsoft.

The plain and simple fact is that physical does matter to a ton of gamers. If that was not true, then companies like Limited Run Games would not exist.

The fact that multiple companies now exist making physical versions of download-only games is proof that physical game ownership is important to a large swath of consumers.

It's really that simple.

The fact that Nintendo seems to think otherwise is absolutely astonishing considering how massive the retro market is when i comes to Nintendo products. It's almost like someone at the top has lost touch with reality.

@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT You can't eat a game. We have to eat every day. We don't have to buy a new game every day.

With the cost of games going up and Nintendo pushing this game key card stuff, I will likely ONLY purchase first party Nintendo games for the Switch 2. All other purchases will be for PC, PS5, or XBox.

Nintendo priced itself in to a ONLY FIRST PARTY machine corner. I hope they learn from their greed, but they wont and we all know it.