It's really very simple honestly. Either people will buy the Switch 2 or they will not. No matter how much damage control anybody tries to do on this or spin it based on their views, consumers either buy it or don't.
If the consumers don't buy it, it will not be the first console to flop. Nintendo isn't even knew to having a failed console. If you remember correctly, the original Nintendo 3DS was by all counts a failed product. It sold so low that people that bought it early on were put in to an Ambassador program. I know because I was one. My 3DS had the Ambassador icon on the home screen.
Sega had a failed console release as well. They're failure was due to not marketing it at all.. just one day saying, "Surprise we got a new console!"
So, yeah it happens.
It will not be the end of the world if it fails. I hope it does not, but, for my money, I will not be paying $450 for a Nintendo console and $80+ dollars for Nintendo games to play on it.
I love Nintendo and I love all the games I bought for my 3DS and Switch. I just also know that the vast majority of those games are not triple A games worth more than $50. They're Nintendo games.
When I think of a $70 game, I think of something like Baulders Gate 3 that has enough development in it to warrant that kind of price. I would pay $70 for a God of War game, Witcher, Red Dead Redemption, or Baulders Gate kind of game.
Most Nintendo games just don't have the kind of depth of development to warrant more than $50, and some honestly shouldn't be more than $30.
Nintendo will keep charging outrageously and raising the bar as long as we, the consumers, keep paying it.
@mikejs78 Wouldn't that be dependent on the idea that no chip factories already exist in America? Even though most chip manufacturing has gone overseas over the past decade, they still do exist in America. America just isn't the big exporter of chips that it used to be before the big names moved their operations to countries with lower average wages and fewer regulations.
@hypercoyote true. I wonder though if the cost of setting up a factory would out weigh the cost of lost sales due to the terrifs. I honestly do not know.
@chardir Nintendo technically has a Nintendo of America corporation. Unless I am missing something here, Nintendo of America should be able to manufacture the cartridges to be sold in America in a factory in America and therefore have no terrifs applied to those games sold in America.
Somebody please let me know if I am understanding that incorrectly.
Well.... Honestly after seeing what they are going to charge for the new system AND the games (especially how much they are charging for DIGITAL versions which should be WAY cheaper due to NO MANUFACTURING COSTS), I've pretty much decided that I will be skipping the Switch 2 generation this year. I'll check back in 2026 to see if anything changes.
Until then, I have a massive back log of games on my STILL WORKING PERFECTLY Nintendo 3DS and my current generation Nintendo Switch. On top of that, I have more games to play on my XBox and Playstation consoles than I will have time to get to in my lifetime.
I just don't see a real reason why I should spend $80+ dollars on games for this new Switch generation.
Best of luck to those that go with the Switch 2. I hope you get your money's worth.
This looks fun. I will be picking it up and playing it for sure.
If you want to play in Middle Earth until the game comes out, check out the official Lord of The Rings Online (MMORPG) game at lotro.com ... You can also check out my streams playing Lord of The Rings Online at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TYFKWWGb8 (YouTube.com/Pharone1 and Twitch.tv/Pharone)
Maniac Mansion, Day of the Tentacle, and so many more... fast forward to the late 2010s and we have... Thimbleweed Park.
If you haven't played Thimbleweed Park and you are a fan of old Lucas Art point-n-click adventure games, then you're missing one of the greatest modern day versions of the genre.
@SabreLevant right, but they could fix that by assigning a GUID to each chip during manufacturing. That way every single cartridge has a unique identifying ID that can be associated with an install. If someone tries to use that cartridge to install the game, it could deactivate anywhere else it is installed.
@SabreLevant There is NO REASON why they can't make it so you put the cartridge in to "install" the game, and then be able to take the cartridge out to store it on your shelf while still being able to play the game.
Surely I am not the only one that likes to own every major console each generation and playing them all. I see each console as having its strengths and weaknesses. Where one is weak, another is strong. You don't have to have one console that rules them all.
What the industry SHOULD do is include a one time use code in every physical copy of the game. That way, you can have the PHYSICAL copy of the game (to put on the shelf) as well as having the game downloaded to your console to run anytime, anywhere with out having to put the cartridge in.
I love collecting physical copies AND I love the convenience of purchasing digital copies. That means that I end up buying games I like twice. It's very expensive, and it means I end up buying half as many games each year since I am buying them twice for each title.
Nintendo ABANDONED all of us. We bought their products, and they gave us the big middle finger by shutting down necessary components for our purchased hardware.
Quite frankly, Nintendo does not deserve to have any say so in what we do with hardware that WE paid for and THEY abandoned.
I am tired of companies selling products and then choosing to abandon it later. I think when a company abandons a product line, they should give up all rights to it. It should become the rights of the people that PAID for their products. Either that, or give us a full refund for all hardware and software purchased for it with interest to cover inflation.
Stop selling us products and then ripping it out from under us later!
@GrailUK my thoughts exactly. Of course the person getting paid for voice acting of the character would LOVE TO SEE that same character in more games. hahaha.!
Somebody wanted to show off and dropped $1500 to do it. Sadly they got the attention they wanted by articles like this being made. Yay to him on doing something that literally anybody can do if they want to waste enough money on a game. What an accomplishment... whew... I am in awe of your ability to hit the purchase button repeatedly. lol
I just don't enjoy the open-world versions of Nintendo games nearly as much as I do the way they were traditionally made. Its the same reason I don't like Breath of the Wild nearly as much as the old Zeldas. The new Super Mario Bros Wonder was my favorite SMB game released on the Switch so far because I just can't get in to open-world games.
@Arehexes fan made items is a far stretch from a company made game that is being sold for money. I think you might be using what is called hyperbolic comparison to make an analysis that isn't even close.
@Serpenterror With over 34 million Switch units sold (across all versions), who exactly is rushing to buy another one this holiday season? Pretty much anybody who plays games has a Switch at this point.
Super Mario Party Jamboree just came out and has 366,484 total sales while The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom has been out for a good while now and has 294,371 total sales. This does not bode well for the new Zelda game. If it doesn't get some traction soon... will there be another one?
I think the thing that blows my mind the most is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is still racking in the sales as old as it is at this point. Totally amazing.
Isn't it weird how Hogwarts Legacy is sitting at 4 while the brand new Zelda game has fallen to 6 already. The media is going to have to put together a second round of propaganda to remind everyone that Hogwarts Legacy is a bad game despite people loving it.
Us stupid gamers spending our money on what we actually enjoy playing. What is wrong with us! Hahaha.
Kinda reminds me of how I've found, throughout the five decades I have been alive, that when the critics say a movie sucks, it ends up being a movie I enjoy. Critics... so helpful in life aren't they, always telling us what to like and not like.
@Mr_Monochrome I believe all the servers except one are in the same datacenter here in the US. The only server that I know is actually in a different datacenter is the new Mordor server which is in a datacenter in Europe.
@Mr_Monochrome If you are on the Gladden or Angmar server, hit me up and I can help you with some gear or something. I stream most of my Lotro play sessions on youtube.com/pharone1 and twitch.tv/pharone.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with my current PS5 that would warrant me to go buy a PS5 Pro. Why anyone would by the PS5 Pro at that ridiculously outrageous price over just buying a PS5 is beyond me. The PS5 itself is light years better than its predecessor. Buying a PS5 Pro would just be a luxury purchase in comparison. In other words, just get a PS5. Nobody needs the Pro.
Companies that sell physical games end up getting 2 purchases from people like me. I buy 1 physical copy that I put on my shelf and buy 1 digital copy to actually download and play.
If companies stop making physical games, they will lose that extra income revenue.
This game is still to this day one of my all time favorites, and I believe that it has everything to do with his commitment to his work. If more people put this much commitment in to what they create, the world would be a better place.
Comments 571
Re: Some Fans Are Drawing Unfavourable Comparisons Between Switch 2 And Xbox One
It's really very simple honestly. Either people will buy the Switch 2 or they will not. No matter how much damage control anybody tries to do on this or spin it based on their views, consumers either buy it or don't.
If the consumers don't buy it, it will not be the first console to flop. Nintendo isn't even knew to having a failed console. If you remember correctly, the original Nintendo 3DS was by all counts a failed product. It sold so low that people that bought it early on were put in to an Ambassador program. I know because I was one. My 3DS had the Ambassador icon on the home screen.
Sega had a failed console release as well. They're failure was due to not marketing it at all.. just one day saying, "Surprise we got a new console!"
So, yeah it happens.
It will not be the end of the world if it fails. I hope it does not, but, for my money, I will not be paying $450 for a Nintendo console and $80+ dollars for Nintendo games to play on it.
I love Nintendo and I love all the games I bought for my 3DS and Switch. I just also know that the vast majority of those games are not triple A games worth more than $50. They're Nintendo games.
When I think of a $70 game, I think of something like Baulders Gate 3 that has enough development in it to warrant that kind of price. I would pay $70 for a God of War game, Witcher, Red Dead Redemption, or Baulders Gate kind of game.
Most Nintendo games just don't have the kind of depth of development to warrant more than $50, and some honestly shouldn't be more than $30.
Nintendo will keep charging outrageously and raising the bar as long as we, the consumers, keep paying it.
Re: Is The Switch 2 A Steam Deck Killer? Digital Foundry Dives Deep
Nintendo 3DS XL is still the best handheld console ever made. Switch was good, but not better than the 3DS. Switch 2 doesn't interest me much at all.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
Well no matter what happens, I'm going to keep an eye on what transpires and check back on the Switch 2 in a year from now.
Stay peaceful and happy everyone.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@mikejs78 Wouldn't that be dependent on the idea that no chip factories already exist in America? Even though most chip manufacturing has gone overseas over the past decade, they still do exist in America. America just isn't the big exporter of chips that it used to be before the big names moved their operations to countries with lower average wages and fewer regulations.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@hypercoyote true. I wonder though if the cost of setting up a factory would out weigh the cost of lost sales due to the terrifs. I honestly do not know.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@chardir Nintendo technically has a Nintendo of America corporation. Unless I am missing something here, Nintendo of America should be able to manufacture the cartridges to be sold in America in a factory in America and therefore have no terrifs applied to those games sold in America.
Somebody please let me know if I am understanding that incorrectly.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
Well.... Honestly after seeing what they are going to charge for the new system AND the games (especially how much they are charging for DIGITAL versions which should be WAY cheaper due to NO MANUFACTURING COSTS), I've pretty much decided that I will be skipping the Switch 2 generation this year. I'll check back in 2026 to see if anything changes.
Until then, I have a massive back log of games on my STILL WORKING PERFECTLY Nintendo 3DS and my current generation Nintendo Switch. On top of that, I have more games to play on my XBox and Playstation consoles than I will have time to get to in my lifetime.
I just don't see a real reason why I should spend $80+ dollars on games for this new Switch generation.
Best of luck to those that go with the Switch 2. I hope you get your money's worth.
Re: 'Tales Of The Shire' Video Shares More Info On New Tolkien-Inspired Farming Sim
This looks fun. I will be picking it up and playing it for sure.
If you want to play in Middle Earth until the game comes out, check out the official Lord of The Rings Online (MMORPG) game at lotro.com ... You can also check out my streams playing Lord of The Rings Online at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TYFKWWGb8 (YouTube.com/Pharone1 and Twitch.tv/Pharone)
Re: UK Charts: WWE And Monster Hunter Hold Strong In Quiet Week For Nintendo
This is quite the conundrum we have here with this quiet week in Nintendo news.
Re: Commodore 64 Platformer 'Beyond The Ice Palace' Returns With Brutally Difficult Sequel
Looks like a lot of fun!
Re: Opinion: Nintendo, Let Us Buy The Games Being Delisted From Switch Online
This is why I do not like digital games.
Re: An NES LucasArts Adventure Classic May Be Getting A Spiritual Successor
Maniac Mansion, Day of the Tentacle, and so many more... fast forward to the late 2010s and we have... Thimbleweed Park.
If you haven't played Thimbleweed Park and you are a fan of old Lucas Art point-n-click adventure games, then you're missing one of the greatest modern day versions of the genre.
I will be picking this one up too of course.
Re: Bandai Namco Studios Has Reportedly Reduced Its Staff By Over 100 People
Always sad to see anyone lose their job.
Re: BIT.TRIP Runner Dev Is Bringing Back An Atari Classic With A Twist
I will play this for sure.
Re: Talking Point: What Do We Actually Want From 'Mario Kart 9'?
We want a fun game to play, so... FUN. We want fun. Yes. That will do it. Fun.
Re: US Physical Game Spending Continued To Decline Last Year, Now Sits At Half 2021's Numbers
@SabreLevant right, but they could fix that by assigning a GUID to each chip during manufacturing. That way every single cartridge has a unique identifying ID that can be associated with an install. If someone tries to use that cartridge to install the game, it could deactivate anywhere else it is installed.
Re: US Physical Game Spending Continued To Decline Last Year, Now Sits At Half 2021's Numbers
@SabreLevant There is NO REASON why they can't make it so you put the cartridge in to "install" the game, and then be able to take the cartridge out to store it on your shelf while still being able to play the game.
Re: US Physical Game Spending Continued To Decline Last Year, Now Sits At Half 2021's Numbers
@SabreLevant No. But, thank you for asking.
Re: US Physical Game Spending Continued To Decline Last Year, Now Sits At Half 2021's Numbers
@SabreLevant One physical and one digital. Yes. Yes I am.
Re: Stardew Valley Creator Doesn't Want To 'Close The Book' On Its Development
It's a life sim... there is no end.
Re: Xbox Is "Really Looking Forward" To Supporting Switch 2
Surely I am not the only one that likes to own every major console each generation and playing them all. I see each console as having its strengths and weaknesses. Where one is weak, another is strong. You don't have to have one console that rules them all.
Re: US Physical Game Spending Continued To Decline Last Year, Now Sits At Half 2021's Numbers
What the industry SHOULD do is include a one time use code in every physical copy of the game. That way, you can have the PHYSICAL copy of the game (to put on the shelf) as well as having the game downloaded to your console to run anytime, anywhere with out having to put the cartridge in.
I love collecting physical copies AND I love the convenience of purchasing digital copies. That means that I end up buying games I like twice. It's very expensive, and it means I end up buying half as many games each year since I am buying them twice for each title.
Re: EA's Share Price Plummets After Reports Of Disappointing Financial Performance
Make better games that are actually fun to play. If you can't do that, then get out of the business. It's that simple.
Re: Nintendo Asks Wii U Owners To Refrain From Using "Unauthorised" Online Services
Nintendo ABANDONED all of us. We bought their products, and they gave us the big middle finger by shutting down necessary components for our purchased hardware.
Quite frankly, Nintendo does not deserve to have any say so in what we do with hardware that WE paid for and THEY abandoned.
I am tired of companies selling products and then choosing to abandon it later. I think when a company abandons a product line, they should give up all rights to it. It should become the rights of the people that PAID for their products. Either that, or give us a full refund for all hardware and software purchased for it with interest to cover inflation.
Stop selling us products and then ripping it out from under us later!
Good day sir.!
Re: Zelda's Voice Actor Would Love To See The Princess In "More" Playable Roles
@GrailUK my thoughts exactly. Of course the person getting paid for voice acting of the character would LOVE TO SEE that same character in more games. hahaha.!
Re: Pokémon TCG Pocket Trainer Drops $1,500 To Collect Every Single Card
Somebody wanted to show off and dropped $1500 to do it. Sadly they got the attention they wanted by articles like this being made. Yay to him on doing something that literally anybody can do if they want to waste enough money on a game. What an accomplishment... whew... I am in awe of your ability to hit the purchase button repeatedly. lol
Re: After Almost 30 Years, Japan Finally Has A New Best-Selling Pokémon Game
I just don't enjoy the open-world versions of Nintendo games nearly as much as I do the way they were traditionally made. Its the same reason I don't like Breath of the Wild nearly as much as the old Zeldas. The new Super Mario Bros Wonder was my favorite SMB game released on the Switch so far because I just can't get in to open-world games.
Re: All Aboard! 'Loco Motive' Brings A Lucasarts-Style Comedy Adventure To Switch Next Week
I love point and click adventures! Will be getting this one for sure.
Re: Palworld Developer Details Patent Infringement Claims From Nintendo's Lawsuit
@Arehexes fan made items is a far stretch from a company made game that is being sold for money. I think you might be using what is called hyperbolic comparison to make an analysis that isn't even close.
Re: Japanese Charts: Mario Party Jamboree Is The Star Player, Once Again
@UmbreonsPapa ah ok that makes more sense.
Re: Palworld Developer Details Patent Infringement Claims From Nintendo's Lawsuit
Regardless of what patent they use to go after them, I can't understand how anyone doesn't see that Palworld is a ripoff of the Pokemon franchise.
Like Palworld or not, how can anyone think this wouldn't have ended up in court?
Re: Japanese Charts: Mario Party Jamboree Is The Star Player, Once Again
@Serpenterror With over 34 million Switch units sold (across all versions), who exactly is rushing to buy another one this holiday season? Pretty much anybody who plays games has a Switch at this point.
Re: Japanese Charts: Mario Party Jamboree Is The Star Player, Once Again
Super Mario Party Jamboree just came out and has 366,484 total sales while The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom has been out for a good while now and has 294,371 total sales. This does not bode well for the new Zelda game. If it doesn't get some traction soon... will there be another one?
I think the thing that blows my mind the most is Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is still racking in the sales as old as it is at this point. Totally amazing.
Re: Stardew Valley Version 1.6 Is Finally Out Now On Switch
Looking forward to checking it out!
Re: Switch Online's Expansion Pack Promises "Excitement" In 2025
Its all fun and games right up until they pull the plug on the servers. Ask the PS Vita, Gamecube, and 3DS crowd about that.
Physical media is the ONLY way to actually own games and not just rent them.
Re: UK Charts: Zelda Falls From The Top Five As New Releases Shake Things Up
@Ralizah Agreed. I love my PS5. I'd never buy that new one with the ridiculous price tag, but the original PS5 is great.
Re: UK Charts: Zelda Falls From The Top Five As New Releases Shake Things Up
Isn't it weird how Hogwarts Legacy is sitting at 4 while the brand new Zelda game has fallen to 6 already. The media is going to have to put together a second round of propaganda to remind everyone that Hogwarts Legacy is a bad game despite people loving it.
Us stupid gamers spending our money on what we actually enjoy playing. What is wrong with us! Hahaha.
Kinda reminds me of how I've found, throughout the five decades I have been alive, that when the critics say a movie sucks, it ends up being a movie I enjoy. Critics... so helpful in life aren't they, always telling us what to like and not like.
Re: "We Were So Stumped" - Nintendo On The 'Unorthodox' Development Of Alarmo
What the what.... what
Re: Cyberpunk Goes Turn-Based In New Rhythm JRPG 'Keylocker'
Cyberpunk has always been turn-based if you consider the Shadowrun games.
Re: 'Tales Of The Shire: A Lord Of The Rings Game' Is Getting A 'Hobbit Day' Showcase
@Mr_Monochrome I believe all the servers except one are in the same datacenter here in the US. The only server that I know is actually in a different datacenter is the new Mordor server which is in a datacenter in Europe.
Re: 'Tales Of The Shire: A Lord Of The Rings Game' Is Getting A 'Hobbit Day' Showcase
@Mr_Monochrome If you are on the Gladden or Angmar server, hit me up and I can help you with some gear or something. I stream most of my Lotro play sessions on youtube.com/pharone1 and twitch.tv/pharone.
Re: 'Tales Of The Shire: A Lord Of The Rings Game' Is Getting A 'Hobbit Day' Showcase
Do yourself a favor and just download Lord of the Rings Online. It's free to play, has free content from level 1 to 95, and is a heck of a lot of fun.
Re: Soapbox: Sony's Insane PS5 Pro Price Highlights The Delicate Balance Nintendo Must Strike With 'Switch 2'
There is absolutely nothing wrong with my current PS5 that would warrant me to go buy a PS5 Pro. Why anyone would by the PS5 Pro at that ridiculously outrageous price over just buying a PS5 is beyond me. The PS5 itself is light years better than its predecessor. Buying a PS5 Pro would just be a luxury purchase in comparison. In other words, just get a PS5. Nobody needs the Pro.
Re: Stardew Valley Creator Shares New Update About Version 1.6 Console Ports
Best... Game... EVAH!
I can wait.... maybe... OMG.. .IS IT READY YET?!?!! sorry... breath breath
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door And Luigi's Mansion 2 HD Both Surpass One Million Sales
I've said it before, and I will say it again... My favorite Nintendo franchises are NOT Mario nor Zelda.
My favorite Nintendo franchises are:
1. Luigi's Mansion
2. Donkey Kong Country
3. Kirby
My favorite Nintendo franchise games are:
1. Luigi's Mansion 3 (Switch)
2. Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (Switch)
3. Kirby's Epic Yarn (Wii)
Re: UK Charts: Luigi's Mansion 2 HD Starts To Slip In A Quiet Week
Luigis Mansion 2 HD is still a really fun game even though it does struggle with bad controls. The game deserves to sell well.
Re: Capcom Currently Has No Plans To End Physical Game Support
Companies that sell physical games end up getting 2 purchases from people like me. I buy 1 physical copy that I put on my shelf and buy 1 digital copy to actually download and play.
If companies stop making physical games, they will lose that extra income revenue.
Re: Digital Foundry Hails Luigi's Mansion 3 As The Best-Looking Exclusive Switch Game
One of my favorite first party Nintendo games on the Switch.
Re: Stardew Valley Creator Pledges To Never Charge Money For DLC Or Updates
This game is still to this day one of my all time favorites, and I believe that it has everything to do with his commitment to his work. If more people put this much commitment in to what they create, the world would be a better place.
Re: 'The Karate Kid: Street Rumble' Chops Its Way Onto Switch In September
I will so get this game.