@maukenboost Oh I don't know. Last Metroid game we got was 2010 with Metroid Other M. Last Mega Man game was Mega Man 10 in 2010. Since the newest games either of them starred in are mascot fighters.
Capcom cancelled their Mega Man 3DS project as did Nintendo cancel Metroid 3DS project. Both have had a surge of indie games that are filling the void the franchises leave.
Seems like they are pretty much neck and neck for developer abuse.
@JaxonH That is very cool of you and I absolutely will take you up on that offer.
And that's the crux of Amiibos. Everything I've said I deeply feel but I also love the franchises and characters so much that I really like having figures from my favorite series. That's why they almost instantly sell out and people get upset. Nintendo fans are some of the most passionate fans you will find.
@JaxonH I don't think I could have hoped for a more reasonable conclusion to our discussion. I see it from your perspective, your not wrong in many of your statements and I could see why posts like mine could be frustrating for you. I guess I'm just grasping hard at yesterday and Nintendo seemed like the last reasonable bastion in those regards.
Ironically enough if I saw a Lucina or Robin today, even with all my disgust, I would snap them up so quick my wallet's metaphorical head would spin.
@JaxonH I'm sorry to say, but I think you are looking at the old Nintendo and not the new. Now that they know amiibo sell well and that people will bite on this silliness it's just escalated. We went from the most pointless use in Smash brothers to physically locking playable characters away behind impossible to find DLC: I will never find or be able to play as Lucina or Robin in a game I bought, partly to do just that (unless I want to be triple MSRP) If I wasn't one of the very few who got a hold of the Squid amiibo than I would never unlock the Kraken Armor OR get to play through single player in a completely different way.
Not because I didn't want to buy them, not because I don't read sites everyday to keep up with them, not because I wasn't in the right place at the right time: because of stock shortages that Nintendo has proven they have no interest in fixing. Make no mistake, if I knew that they WOULD restock these than I could just wait: but they've made absolutely no attempts to do so and only half hearted apologies.
You are absolutely right that there is a hypocrisy to my statements about Amiibo, but I've always felt this way even as they collected them. I hated the idea of what Nintendo was doing, thought it meant ill portents for the future, but loved having them sitting on my shelf so much that the unlockables seemed secondary. If I wanted a cool figure and it unlocked something in my game whatever. Did I still think it was on disc DLC? Yep. I hate the Toys To Life business, but at least the other competitors are available. It's not just that I think they are overpriced and they are starting to lock more and more behind Amiibo, but you can't even find them to boot.
I hope you are right Jaxon. I hope that this E3 they'll announce a plan to restock and that we don't see a parade of Amiibos locking content that Nintendo would have included on a disc just a year ago. I hope so, but I don't think that is where this is going.
So no, I'm not thinking about not supporting Nintendo any longer strictly because of a toy. I'm thinking about not supporting Nintendo because the Nintendo I loved, the Nintendo that stayed away from shady tactics like free to play, pay to win games (Pokemon Match Three), expensive on disc playable characters locked away (Codename Steam) or an entire challenge mode that extended the length of a short game along with premium gear that actually affects gameplay (Splatoon). I don't know if your a completionist, but stuff like always seeing a blank spot where I could have costumes in Mario Kart, always seeing those blank spaces on the bottom of Codename Steam is enough to make me not want to bother with trying to get any on that game at all.
Either way there isn't a point of having this debate I suppose, I've seen you argue for Amiibo like it's mighty defender since the moment they were announced and nothing I say is going to convince you that I'm not a spoiled baby crying because I can't get something. But I'm a grown man with two children and a full time job and I can't spend all day on the internet waiting for a 5 minute or 5 second time to preorder something that I shouldn't even buy just so I can enjoy Nintendo games to the fullest.
@JaxonH It's not that you can find them, it's the tone and the direction of your statements that is off putting. Quite simply the way you put it seems very much like nee ner nee ner I got one and you didn't. To me most of your posts read like: I don't have any problems getting Amiibo so obviously there isn't a problem, when clearly there is. When someone says they had an issue you claim they didn't, they aren't trying hard enough or that Nintendo is trying as hard as they can: when even if they are producing the number you say a day (which again I find hard to believe) they aren't sharing any relevant information with fans getting more frustrated by the wave other than vague apologies and promises to restock figures that have never been acted on. When were the Marth restocks coming that were promised months ago? I still don't see them in stores, online or anywhere for that matter and no further mention was made of them.
Either way Amiibo has completely dirtied what I used to love about Nintendo, the things that I began to shy away from the other two big game consoles because of. It used to be, before all this Amiibo nonsense, that things like the Splatoon challenges, costumes being restricted etc would have simply been cool unlocks in a game. Now Nintendo is chopping off pieces of pre-existing content, whether it's debatable on the value of that content or not, and selling it back to us at a significant price.
The sad part is I was ok with this at one point, I thought that having a cool Nintendo figure was the most appealing part, especially since many of these characters would never usually see the light of day in the US in figure form. I was sure up front that I would have to pre-order to get the rare ones I really wanted, like the Fire Emblem ones, but thought that would be easy enough.
If I'd only known. Now with the utter fiasco Amiibo have become, with the future to seem to be more and more of the dang things, it's just about time to write off the company as a whole in my book until they are done with this money grubbing nonsense. If Xbox sold DLC for something locking a challenge mode away behind some $13 Master Chief figure that you could never find people would be crying for their heads. It's only because it's Nintendo that they get a free pass with so many fans.
@JaxonH I think that if you make arrogant or baiting comments like I bought them all or say you have so many you are just giving them away on highly sought after items you can't even preorder then you are asking for that kind of treatment.
I don't buy it has anything to do with them not being able to make enough, they are all pieces of plastic and Mario takes the same amount of time as would imagine that Ike or Ness does. Yet I can go in any retail store and buy any of the Mario lot right now. Not to mention Skylanders and Disney Infinity generally don't have this issue.
I'm not sure why you are so hell bent on defending this, probably because Nintendo can do no wrong by you, but usually when something is such a problem that almost everyone can acknowledge it and there are memes and parody songs about it that's because it's actually a problem.
Oh, and by the way, these resources you speak of, I'm signed up at 3 separate sites for notification. Usually when I get an alert the item is already gone in the seconds it takes to log on. I've put plenty of effort into hunting these on disc DLC carriers down so you can drop the whole you aren't trying hard enough thing.
@JaxonH This is not heresay or rumor: it's a fact that figures are selling out in minutes online, all except ones in bountiful supply like Mario. Nintendo keeps saying they are aware of the problem but can't come up with a solution of any kind. It's not even hard. Come up with an official site where people can order one, even if it takes months to get one, knowing that I had it lined up would work. Increase stock, flood online stores with orders so scalpers can't take advantage. Yeah, you don't want a ton of your product sitting at Wal-Mart on the shelf, but they could make them available online with absolutely zero risk.
So it stands to reason that they are absolutely doing this to drive interest and demand. You really think they care whether they get their money from real fans or scalpers out to make a quick buck on desperate collectors?
I've also read here and on other sites that the problem is even worse in the US, at least in the UK they have the official online store they can order from, we don't even have that option here. It's an absolute crap shoot where even figures nobody would typically care about, ie Wario, are nowhere to be found.
On top of that it sounds like you are part of the problem, with comments like that's probably because I got them all or that you are buying them all up for your circle of friends.
Either way you look at it either Nintendo is completely incompetent at stocking product, or they are purposely creating this situation. Since I refuse to believe that hundreds of employees with marketing degrees and intimate knowledge of the retail world are simply completely out of touch, that means that they are doing this on purpose.
@JaxonH I disagree. I was at work and took lunch early when GameStop announced they were preordering Lucian, Robin and the lot. They had a time slot and everything and it took the entire site down. My brother took the day off and stood in line at GameStop because he thought there would be online shenanigans and yet even as the fourth person in line they were sold out.
Target said they were putting theirs online at 7 am or so, I got up early and oh surprise they went live hours earlier and were gone in minutes.
That's all to add to the fact that we are talking about preorders. Perhaps someone needs to explain preorders to Nintendo, because you are supposed to take orders and then fill those orders. Instead they are purposely limiting stock to drive interest.
I'll agree if you didn't get Ike or Marth that was all the persons fault as one was preordering for months and one weeks. But all the latest figures? Insane.
Honestly amiibo have me extremely frustrated with Nintendo. They are starting to tie it to all their titles with increasingly rare figures that even going way out of my way I can't get. If this is going to be the future of Nintendo I'm done. If Microsoft or Sony were doing this the press and fans would be trashing them.
@JaxonH Don't know where you live, but I spent 40 no minutes refreshing on Amazon every second on 3 computers and never getting Robin or Lucina even with a window for release. That's after the non existent pre-order window online and in stores.
I just want to chat with my friends while playing. I enjoy when my brother and I play on our Xbox systems to be able to just chat and laugh and enjoy the game together: doesn't have much to do with strategy. I think they should have at least had friend chat, but the game is still a masterpiece.
Hey look, another awesome amiibo I'll never be able to pre-order or see in a store and will never have a chance to buy without paying triple the retail value!
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
Thanks Amazon! Me, my wife and my brother spent the last 40 minutes refreshing every few seconds and Lucina never even showed up, but somehow sold out?
There are people vastly overreacting out there. You have to think this is not indicative really of what's going to happen at launch. They were very loud about this TestFire and the scheduled time of which there was purposefully only one of. Most everyone I knew that missed TestFire two weekends ago wasn't making the mistake again tonight. Every person I know that has a Wii U was on tonight.
In short peoples playtime and log on time will differ on full release and the servers won't be as taxed as they were this evening. Overall these server stress tests went remarkably well, and I've been in my fair share of them across other games that did much worse.
Can't wait to get my hands on retail copy. See you all on Friday!!
I'd love the idea and would instantly buy, but I also think it's fake sadly. Probably for the best being Amiibo, Nintendo would likely horribly botch it.
Why isn't there a site whereby two amiibo hunters can swap figures they need more common in their area? Seems like there is a need for it, the comments above illustrate that with one fellow not being able to find azalea but having an abundance of Marty.
If Nintendo had a console with the power of the other two for third party support, a solid online infrastructure, and all that can love they are so good at generating they would dominate. In my opinion they have the best exclusives on the market.
@Rawk_Hawk We have plenty Mega Man around here, or we did a week ago, if I can grab one I'll sell it to you for just the price of the figure and shipping.
I don't think this is legit. The choice makes no sense, Disney's new animated show on their own channel is Rebels, the new Star Wars is coming out that focuses heavily on the original trilogy characters and if they were going to launch it wouldn't be off an old series. It all just feels off.
I know there is a difference there, but honestly I don't see the big deal at all. I was fine with "last gen graphics", I thought we reached a good place with them, but ultimately what many others have said is true: graphics matter little. Even if they were extremely important the game still looks amazing.
@IceClimbers I think the way they did supers made the gameplay very strategic. Do I spam level one attacks that usually take out one or maybe two people if very well timed or do I save up for the stronger level three attack nearly guaranteed to wipe most people out. It was fluid depending on the map and I really enjoyed it.
@JaxonH I usually find you very level headed and responsive so I'm curious how you would defend something as ridiculous as the Fire Emblem split game approach that's being taken? It seems clear to me here they are literally locking a whole portion of the game away behind a paywall. The value is something you could argue, that you can get basically a whole Fire Emblem game for $20, but at the same time plenty of games had extra paths and divergent gameplay and they haven't charged extra.
More to the most prominent discussion on disc DLC or not I think the matter is moot either way. If Sony or Microsoft charged you $15 a character after you've already bought a full game people would be absolutely rioting. The fact that it's already there is a slap in the face and the fact that the things needed to unlock them are impossible to get is even worse.
Yes, I'm happy they are going to make the best Zelda they can. Yes, I kind of believe speculation it'll be a NX launch title. Yes, I do feel like a 5 year old who was just told they cancelled Christmas this year.
@Shane904 You are correct, I apologize I'm not sure what I was thinking earlier. My main point is all the restrictions and things they do with their terrible account system and other decisions a lot of that is to prevent piracy and people taking advantage of things. People have been asking forever for Nintendo to do something like this and people immediately take advantage.
@Shane904 You are correct, I apologize I'm not sure what I was thinking earlier. My main point is all the restrictions and things they do with their terrible account system and other decisions a lot of that is to prevent piracy and people taking advantage of things. People have been asking forever for Nintendo to do something like this and people immediately take advantage.
This behavior is the kind of stuff that keeps Nintendo from doing things like this or having open region systems. People act like they are so paranoid, but at the first chance people will take advantage.
@JaxonH Fair enough. I'm really more playing devils advocate as like I said I was buying them anyway and consider it an awesome bonus. My big hang up isn't just that they sell fast, but the items you listed were available for preorder for a substantial time so people who knew they wanted it bad could get in on it. With amiibos selling out in minutes online with preorders no less it all seems a tad engineered and more than just a hot item.
Ah well, I'm just excited to get my hands on it either way.
@JaxonH I do agree that people are getting out of hand with amiibo and previously I was fine with the stuff they were doing: a costume unlock or the pointless FP thing for Smash. However, what we are talking about are characters that are playable and actually directly affect gameplay and for figures that have proven incredibly difficult to get a hold of to boot. On top of that the people making Steam made Fire Emblem so I could certainly see them being some neat unlock able side content, perhaps even cheap side DLC. As it stands it's like charging $13 a character and then making it an extremely limited item to purchase. Let's be honest, if MS or Sony pulled this people would be ripping them apart.
This may sound like sour grapes, I assure you it isn't. I have my Marth, my Ike is on preorder and I have every intention of grabbing the other two, and with a little inside heads up from friends at GameStop it shouldn't be a big deal. I'd buy them content or no for their sheer awesomeness and I was already getting Steam so for me they are a cool bonus. But for a completionist who can't get one of the figures for less than $40 and will likely not get his hands on the others? You have to admit it's a bit stupid.
@JaxonH That is almost exactly what I told him. I sort of see his point though, Nintendo makes a lot of frankly baffling decisions that pretty much exclusively hurt their biggest fans. His biggest sticking point was Marth, because he unlocks actual content in Steam that usually would have just probably been in there, now these characters are $15 unlockable DLC. I just buy them to look cool, but I'd feel that way if I couldn't snag all the FE guys.
I've seen at least one person have the inability to get amiibos, the ridiculous speed that Majora's Mask Collectors Edition sell out and again with Majora's Mask 3DS that it's kind if been the straw that broke the camel's back and he ended up walking away from Nintendo all together.
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Of course never will happen in the US. I'm kind of tired of this UK love affair. Ok I get it Nintendo you hate us in NA.
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Wow I just can't believe this. I'll miss you Iwata. I've never felt truly sad about a celebrity death but I guess I get it now.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3 Digital Event?
It was utterly terrible, especially the Metroid trolling.
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I know I'll never get a hold of it, but Game and Watch looks fantastic.
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I would love to see a Kid Icarus on Wii U.
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I would be very surprised if this isn't legitimate.
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For anyone that owns Wii U version this is pointless.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Franchises We Want to See at E3 - Metroid
@maukenboost Oh I don't know. Last Metroid game we got was 2010 with Metroid Other M. Last Mega Man game was Mega Man 10 in 2010. Since the newest games either of them starred in are mascot fighters.
Capcom cancelled their Mega Man 3DS project as did Nintendo cancel Metroid 3DS project. Both have had a surge of indie games that are filling the void the franchises leave.
Seems like they are pretty much neck and neck for developer abuse.
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My son thought this was the funniest thing ever. I could totally see something like this doing well as shorts on Netflix.
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Nintendo hates Metroid almost as much as Capcom hates Mega Man.
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Why Ryu? He seems like a terrible fit.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH That is very cool of you and I absolutely will take you up on that offer.
And that's the crux of Amiibos. Everything I've said I deeply feel but I also love the franchises and characters so much that I really like having figures from my favorite series. That's why they almost instantly sell out and people get upset. Nintendo fans are some of the most passionate fans you will find.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH I don't think I could have hoped for a more reasonable conclusion to our discussion. I see it from your perspective, your not wrong in many of your statements and I could see why posts like mine could be frustrating for you. I guess I'm just grasping hard at yesterday and Nintendo seemed like the last reasonable bastion in those regards.
Ironically enough if I saw a Lucina or Robin today, even with all my disgust, I would snap them up so quick my wallet's metaphorical head would spin.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH I'm sorry to say, but I think you are looking at the old Nintendo and not the new. Now that they know amiibo sell well and that people will bite on this silliness it's just escalated. We went from the most pointless use in Smash brothers to physically locking playable characters away behind impossible to find DLC: I will never find or be able to play as Lucina or Robin in a game I bought, partly to do just that (unless I want to be triple MSRP) If I wasn't one of the very few who got a hold of the Squid amiibo than I would never unlock the Kraken Armor OR get to play through single player in a completely different way.
Not because I didn't want to buy them, not because I don't read sites everyday to keep up with them, not because I wasn't in the right place at the right time: because of stock shortages that Nintendo has proven they have no interest in fixing. Make no mistake, if I knew that they WOULD restock these than I could just wait: but they've made absolutely no attempts to do so and only half hearted apologies.
You are absolutely right that there is a hypocrisy to my statements about Amiibo, but I've always felt this way even as they collected them. I hated the idea of what Nintendo was doing, thought it meant ill portents for the future, but loved having them sitting on my shelf so much that the unlockables seemed secondary. If I wanted a cool figure and it unlocked something in my game whatever. Did I still think it was on disc DLC? Yep. I hate the Toys To Life business, but at least the other competitors are available. It's not just that I think they are overpriced and they are starting to lock more and more behind Amiibo, but you can't even find them to boot.
I hope you are right Jaxon. I hope that this E3 they'll announce a plan to restock and that we don't see a parade of Amiibos locking content that Nintendo would have included on a disc just a year ago. I hope so, but I don't think that is where this is going.
So no, I'm not thinking about not supporting Nintendo any longer strictly because of a toy. I'm thinking about not supporting Nintendo because the Nintendo I loved, the Nintendo that stayed away from shady tactics like free to play, pay to win games (Pokemon Match Three), expensive on disc playable characters locked away (Codename Steam) or an entire challenge mode that extended the length of a short game along with premium gear that actually affects gameplay (Splatoon). I don't know if your a completionist, but stuff like always seeing a blank spot where I could have costumes in Mario Kart, always seeing those blank spaces on the bottom of Codename Steam is enough to make me not want to bother with trying to get any on that game at all.
Either way there isn't a point of having this debate I suppose, I've seen you argue for Amiibo like it's mighty defender since the moment they were announced and nothing I say is going to convince you that I'm not a spoiled baby crying because I can't get something. But I'm a grown man with two children and a full time job and I can't spend all day on the internet waiting for a 5 minute or 5 second time to preorder something that I shouldn't even buy just so I can enjoy Nintendo games to the fullest.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH It's not that you can find them, it's the tone and the direction of your statements that is off putting. Quite simply the way you put it seems very much like nee ner nee ner I got one and you didn't. To me most of your posts read like: I don't have any problems getting Amiibo so obviously there isn't a problem, when clearly there is. When someone says they had an issue you claim they didn't, they aren't trying hard enough or that Nintendo is trying as hard as they can: when even if they are producing the number you say a day (which again I find hard to believe) they aren't sharing any relevant information with fans getting more frustrated by the wave other than vague apologies and promises to restock figures that have never been acted on. When were the Marth restocks coming that were promised months ago? I still don't see them in stores, online or anywhere for that matter and no further mention was made of them.
Either way Amiibo has completely dirtied what I used to love about Nintendo, the things that I began to shy away from the other two big game consoles because of. It used to be, before all this Amiibo nonsense, that things like the Splatoon challenges, costumes being restricted etc would have simply been cool unlocks in a game. Now Nintendo is chopping off pieces of pre-existing content, whether it's debatable on the value of that content or not, and selling it back to us at a significant price.
The sad part is I was ok with this at one point, I thought that having a cool Nintendo figure was the most appealing part, especially since many of these characters would never usually see the light of day in the US in figure form. I was sure up front that I would have to pre-order to get the rare ones I really wanted, like the Fire Emblem ones, but thought that would be easy enough.
If I'd only known. Now with the utter fiasco Amiibo have become, with the future to seem to be more and more of the dang things, it's just about time to write off the company as a whole in my book until they are done with this money grubbing nonsense. If Xbox sold DLC for something locking a challenge mode away behind some $13 Master Chief figure that you could never find people would be crying for their heads. It's only because it's Nintendo that they get a free pass with so many fans.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH I think that if you make arrogant or baiting comments like I bought them all or say you have so many you are just giving them away on highly sought after items you can't even preorder then you are asking for that kind of treatment.
I don't buy it has anything to do with them not being able to make enough, they are all pieces of plastic and Mario takes the same amount of time as would imagine that Ike or Ness does. Yet I can go in any retail store and buy any of the Mario lot right now. Not to mention Skylanders and Disney Infinity generally don't have this issue.
I'm not sure why you are so hell bent on defending this, probably because Nintendo can do no wrong by you, but usually when something is such a problem that almost everyone can acknowledge it and there are memes and parody songs about it that's because it's actually a problem.
Oh, and by the way, these resources you speak of, I'm signed up at 3 separate sites for notification. Usually when I get an alert the item is already gone in the seconds it takes to log on. I've put plenty of effort into hunting these on disc DLC carriers down so you can drop the whole you aren't trying hard enough thing.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH This is not heresay or rumor: it's a fact that figures are selling out in minutes online, all except ones in bountiful supply like Mario. Nintendo keeps saying they are aware of the problem but can't come up with a solution of any kind. It's not even hard. Come up with an official site where people can order one, even if it takes months to get one, knowing that I had it lined up would work. Increase stock, flood online stores with orders so scalpers can't take advantage. Yeah, you don't want a ton of your product sitting at Wal-Mart on the shelf, but they could make them available online with absolutely zero risk.
So it stands to reason that they are absolutely doing this to drive interest and demand. You really think they care whether they get their money from real fans or scalpers out to make a quick buck on desperate collectors?
I've also read here and on other sites that the problem is even worse in the US, at least in the UK they have the official online store they can order from, we don't even have that option here. It's an absolute crap shoot where even figures nobody would typically care about, ie Wario, are nowhere to be found.
On top of that it sounds like you are part of the problem, with comments like that's probably because I got them all or that you are buying them all up for your circle of friends.
Either way you look at it either Nintendo is completely incompetent at stocking product, or they are purposely creating this situation. Since I refuse to believe that hundreds of employees with marketing degrees and intimate knowledge of the retail world are simply completely out of touch, that means that they are doing this on purpose.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH I disagree. I was at work and took lunch early when GameStop announced they were preordering Lucian, Robin and the lot. They had a time slot and everything and it took the entire site down. My brother took the day off and stood in line at GameStop because he thought there would be online shenanigans and yet even as the fourth person in line they were sold out.
Target said they were putting theirs online at 7 am or so, I got up early and oh surprise they went live hours earlier and were gone in minutes.
That's all to add to the fact that we are talking about preorders. Perhaps someone needs to explain preorders to Nintendo, because you are supposed to take orders and then fill those orders. Instead they are purposely limiting stock to drive interest.
I'll agree if you didn't get Ike or Marth that was all the persons fault as one was preordering for months and one weeks. But all the latest figures? Insane.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
Honestly amiibo have me extremely frustrated with Nintendo. They are starting to tie it to all their titles with increasingly rare figures that even going way out of my way I can't get. If this is going to be the future of Nintendo I'm done. If Microsoft or Sony were doing this the press and fans would be trashing them.
Re: Poll: We Need to Talk About amiibo - Where Do You Stand?
@JaxonH Don't know where you live, but I spent 40 no minutes refreshing on Amazon every second on 3 computers and never getting Robin or Lucina even with a window for release. That's after the non existent pre-order window online and in stores.
Re: Splatoon Producer Inks Out Reasons For Lack Of Voice Chat And Staggered Content Roll-Out
I just want to chat with my friends while playing. I enjoy when my brother and I play on our Xbox systems to be able to just chat and laugh and enjoy the game together: doesn't have much to do with strategy. I think they should have at least had friend chat, but the game is still a masterpiece.
Re: Chibi-Robo!: Zip Lash and Its amiibo Confirmed for North America and Europe
Hey look, another awesome amiibo I'll never be able to pre-order or see in a store and will never have a chance to buy without paying triple the retail value!
Re: Amazon Confirms US amiibo Pre-Order Times for Wave 4, Splatoon and Silver Mario
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
Way to treat your most loyal fans.
Re: Amazon Confirms US amiibo Pre-Order Times for Wave 4, Splatoon and Silver Mario
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
Way to treat your most loyal fans.
Re: Amazon Confirms US amiibo Pre-Order Times for Wave 4, Splatoon and Silver Mario
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
Way to treat your most loyal fans.
Re: Amazon Confirms US amiibo Pre-Order Times for Wave 4, Splatoon and Silver Mario
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
Way to treat your most loyal fans.
Re: Amazon Confirms US amiibo Pre-Order Times for Wave 4, Splatoon and Silver Mario
This is ridiculous. I'm so frustrated with Nintendo and their stock issues on amiibo. Defenders say they are just plastic toys so no need to be upset or any such other nonsense. Sure, plastic toys with DLC tied to them that I'll never be able to play.
Code Name Steam? I'll never get to play with all the Fire Emblem characters. It wouldn't be so bad if they had a reserve open for a week or so, than it would be nothing but the collectors fault. We can't even pre-order for a few seconds at a time, let alone buy them.
You know what would happen if I wanted a Disney Infinity character? Just about any of the 2.0 in any wave? I'd walk into the store and just walk out with one. Same thing with Skylanders. Cutting your stock down to a fraction of what it should be so you can appear to be a hot item is just absolute business stupidity Nintendo.
Way to treat your most loyal fans.
Re: Amazon Confirms US amiibo Pre-Order Times for Wave 4, Splatoon and Silver Mario
Thanks Amazon! Me, my wife and my brother spent the last 40 minutes refreshing every few seconds and Lucina never even showed up, but somehow sold out?
Guess I might as well forget about Robin.
Re: Splatoon Global Testfire Suffers Major Problems in Final Pre-Launch Session
There are people vastly overreacting out there. You have to think this is not indicative really of what's going to happen at launch. They were very loud about this TestFire and the scheduled time of which there was purposefully only one of. Most everyone I knew that missed TestFire two weekends ago wasn't making the mistake again tonight. Every person I know that has a Wii U was on tonight.
In short peoples playtime and log on time will differ on full release and the servers won't be as taxed as they were this evening. Overall these server stress tests went remarkably well, and I've been in my fair share of them across other games that did much worse.
Can't wait to get my hands on retail copy. See you all on Friday!!
Re: Rumour: Customisable Mii Fighter amiibo Could Be On The Way
I'd love the idea and would instantly buy, but I also think it's fake sadly. Probably for the best being Amiibo, Nintendo would likely horribly botch it.
Re: Don't Hold Your Breath On Those Marth amiibo Restocks
Why isn't there a site whereby two amiibo hunters can swap figures they need more common in their area? Seems like there is a need for it, the comments above illustrate that with one fellow not being able to find azalea but having an abundance of Marty.
Re: Iwata Reveals a Bit More Information on Nintendo's Upcoming Integrated Membership Service
If Nintendo had a console with the power of the other two for third party support, a solid online infrastructure, and all that can love they are so good at generating they would dominate. In my opinion they have the best exclusives on the market.
Re: Nintendo of America Apologises for amiibo Shortages and Promises More Re-Stocks
@Rawk_Hawk We have plenty Mega Man around here, or we did a week ago, if I can grab one I'll sell it to you for just the price of the figure and shipping.
Re: More Disney Infinity 3.0 Leaks Emerge With Starter Pack Line-Up
I don't think this is legit. The choice makes no sense, Disney's new animated show on their own channel is Rebels, the new Star Wars is coming out that focuses heavily on the original trilogy characters and if they were going to launch it wouldn't be off an old series. It all just feels off.
Re: Image & Form Announces 'SteamWorld Ambassador' Challenges
That's a fairly pedestrian looking weapon to attempt to name from sight alone.
Re: Video: Xenoblade Chronicles X May Have Been Subject to a Slight Graphics Downgrade
I know there is a difference there, but honestly I don't see the big deal at all. I was fine with "last gen graphics", I thought we reached a good place with them, but ultimately what many others have said is true: graphics matter little. Even if they were extremely important the game still looks amazing.
Re: Video: Feast Your Eyes On The Brand New Bravely Second Cinematic Trailer
Yes, the last bit of the game was a pain, but I absolutely adore this game and can't wait for the sequel to come out here.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Plans for DLC and Microtransactions Point to Changed Priorities
@IceClimbers I think the way they did supers made the gameplay very strategic. Do I spam level one attacks that usually take out one or maybe two people if very well timed or do I save up for the stronger level three attack nearly guaranteed to wipe most people out. It was fluid depending on the map and I really enjoyed it.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Plans for DLC and Microtransactions Point to Changed Priorities
Hey, I actually really enjoyed All Stars and thought the characters move sets represented the franchises very well.
Re: Download Card Prompts Speculation Over DLC Quests in Xenoblade Chronicles X
@JaxonH I usually find you very level headed and responsive so I'm curious how you would defend something as ridiculous as the Fire Emblem split game approach that's being taken? It seems clear to me here they are literally locking a whole portion of the game away behind a paywall. The value is something you could argue, that you can get basically a whole Fire Emblem game for $20, but at the same time plenty of games had extra paths and divergent gameplay and they haven't charged extra.
More to the most prominent discussion on disc DLC or not I think the matter is moot either way. If Sony or Microsoft charged you $15 a character after you've already bought a full game people would be absolutely rioting. The fact that it's already there is a slap in the face and the fact that the things needed to unlock them are impossible to get is even worse.
Re: The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set for 2015 Release
Yes, I'm happy they are going to make the best Zelda they can. Yes, I kind of believe speculation it'll be a NX launch title. Yes, I do feel like a 5 year old who was just told they cancelled Christmas this year.
Re: Nintendo's Implementation of Cross-Buy is Surprisingly Generous
@Shane904 You are correct, I apologize I'm not sure what I was thinking earlier. My main point is all the restrictions and things they do with their terrible account system and other decisions a lot of that is to prevent piracy and people taking advantage of things. People have been asking forever for Nintendo to do something like this and people immediately take advantage.
It's a case of few ruining it for many.
Re: Nintendo's Implementation of Cross-Buy is Surprisingly Generous
@Shane904 You are correct, I apologize I'm not sure what I was thinking earlier. My main point is all the restrictions and things they do with their terrible account system and other decisions a lot of that is to prevent piracy and people taking advantage of things. People have been asking forever for Nintendo to do something like this and people immediately take advantage.
It's a case of few ruining it for many.
Re: Nintendo's Implementation of Cross-Buy is Surprisingly Generous
I would imagine it would be used primarily to give free copies to friends with a 3DS, but no Wii U.
Re: Nintendo's Implementation of Cross-Buy is Surprisingly Generous
This behavior is the kind of stuff that keeps Nintendo from doing things like this or having open region systems. People act like they are so paranoid, but at the first chance people will take advantage.
Re: Meta Knight amiibo Hits Best Buy in US on 20th February
@JaxonH Fair enough. I'm really more playing devils advocate as like I said I was buying them anyway and consider it an awesome bonus. My big hang up isn't just that they sell fast, but the items you listed were available for preorder for a substantial time so people who knew they wanted it bad could get in on it. With amiibos selling out in minutes online with preorders no less it all seems a tad engineered and more than just a hot item.
Ah well, I'm just excited to get my hands on it either way.
Re: Meta Knight amiibo Hits Best Buy in US on 20th February
@JaxonH I do agree that people are getting out of hand with amiibo and previously I was fine with the stuff they were doing: a costume unlock or the pointless FP thing for Smash. However, what we are talking about are characters that are playable and actually directly affect gameplay and for figures that have proven incredibly difficult to get a hold of to boot. On top of that the people making Steam made Fire Emblem so I could certainly see them being some neat unlock able side content, perhaps even cheap side DLC. As it stands it's like charging $13 a character and then making it an extremely limited item to purchase. Let's be honest, if MS or Sony pulled this people would be ripping them apart.
This may sound like sour grapes, I assure you it isn't. I have my Marth, my Ike is on preorder and I have every intention of grabbing the other two, and with a little inside heads up from friends at GameStop it shouldn't be a big deal. I'd buy them content or no for their sheer awesomeness and I was already getting Steam so for me they are a cool bonus. But for a completionist who can't get one of the figures for less than $40 and will likely not get his hands on the others? You have to admit it's a bit stupid.
Re: Meta Knight amiibo Hits Best Buy in US on 20th February
@JaxonH That is almost exactly what I told him. I sort of see his point though, Nintendo makes a lot of frankly baffling decisions that pretty much exclusively hurt their biggest fans. His biggest sticking point was Marth, because he unlocks actual content in Steam that usually would have just probably been in there, now these characters are $15 unlockable DLC. I just buy them to look cool, but I'd feel that way if I couldn't snag all the FE guys.
Re: Meta Knight amiibo Hits Best Buy in US on 20th February
I've seen at least one person have the inability to get amiibos, the ridiculous speed that Majora's Mask Collectors Edition sell out and again with Majora's Mask 3DS that it's kind if been the straw that broke the camel's back and he ended up walking away from Nintendo all together.
Re: Meet Playtonic, A Studio Of Ex-Rare Staff That Wants To Work With Nintendo
Nintendo: go to your war chest and grab a big bag of money and just go buy this company filled with these talented people.