A point of contention for many years now has been Nintendo's rather deliberate approach to implementation of online services, but with the launch of the Nintendo Network and the eShop, Nintendo has made great strides in the past few years towards offering an increasingly more streamlined and modern online experience. In another big step forward, Nintendo recently confirmed the cancellation of its Club Nintendo loyalty program and announced that a newer program would be created to replace it. Concrete information on this mysterious replacement program is still scarce, but a few more details have just surfaced.
In Nintendo's recent financial results briefing, Iwata touched on Nintendo's recent partnership with DeNA and what that will mean going forward. Once again, he reinforced the point that the aim is to establish a "bridge between smart devices and dedicated game systems". Connectivity will exist between smart devices, PCs, and Nintendo platforms at one point, all under one account. As far as interesting new information goes, Iwata-san was quite keen to talk up the new "services" that this program will bring, as well as that it will track purchases and gameplay records.
Here's the relevant quote from the briefing, make of it what you will:
On the other hand, Nintendo continues to have strong passion and believes in the promising prospects for the future of our dedicated video game system business. We will deploy our game business on smart devices not because we think that the dedicated game system business will wane, but because doing so will encourage a greater number of people to associate with Nintendo IP, to become familiar with the charms of video games and, eventually, to explore more premium experiences on our dedicated game systems. To realize this, we need to create a bridge between the two platforms.
When we announced our business alliance with DeNA, we announced an "integrated membership service," with the mission of establishing a bridge between smart devices and dedicated game systems. The membership service will encompass multiple devices such as our existing Nintendo 3DS, Wii U, the dedicated game system NX, which is currently under development, smart devices and PCs.
While we will announce the details of this integrated membership service at a later date, I can share with you at a high level the idea is that the consumer can access multiple devices using one common ID. For us to be able to bridge the gap between smart devices and dedicated game systems, we will offer advantages to consumers who use one ID across multiple devices.
So far, the members input their Club Nintendo ID to use the services. With this new service, our members will be able to visit Nintendo's website and log in with one ID, and they will receive various services including the ones based on their past purchases and gameplay records as well as services that will be an improved version of the current loyalty program.
With this new membership, we are planning to deploy services that will make playing Nintendo games with their game pals more fun regardless of which platform they are accessing.
What do you think of this? What might Nintendo choose to include as "services" under this new program? As always, share your thoughts in the comments below.
[source nintendo.co.jp]
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I think I'm more excited about this than anything else Nintendo is doing right now.
@PFunk007 I am, too! I'm hoping that by "services" that means cloud saves and standard cross buy/cross save functionality, which they've been dabbling with.
As long as this uses the Nintendo Network ID I'm alright with it. Its been complicated with having to tie both your Club Nintendo ID and Nintendo Network ID onto one system.
Cloud services would be nice however I don't see it happening anytime soon. Mid-late 2016 or 2017.
This is really fantastic.
I wish Iwata would step down already. This would have been done way long ago with someone else at the helm not holding them back. I am also worried on how this membership service will work, We've already seen and are still seeing the disaster with the NNID.
@ikki5 I can assure you Iwata's not the main problem. The problem is Nintendo being a Kyoto company like Dan Adelman said. Even if Iwata stepped down, I doubt anyone else would have done much.
Interesting that NX was displayed.
@ikki5 Nah, someone else would have made it take another five years
By the way, there was a recent article on IGN in which Nintendo confirmed that development of their mobile games will be led by the producer for Mario Kart.
@KillScottKill
With an emphasis that it's a dedicated game system.
Sony and Microsoft has the account system for a long time, Nintendo is really backwards when it comes to new method of doing things. I think Nintendo is run by a lot of old men in Japan, shareholders too. They are old, stubborn and refused to adapt until they are in financial trouble.
So Iwata confirmed that they plan to have around 5 games for mobile released by the end of the next fiscal year (March 2017). Hoping one of them is a WarioWare title. WarioWare would be a perfect fit for mobile.
Sounds good! Hope you'll be able to merge two or three IDs into a single unifying one for those of us that have more than one account because of regional differences(EU/US/JAP). Would be nice to be able to tie all your purchase into one master ID that keeps records of all your Nintendo activities.
So basically what Sony has been doing all this while? If this new system is anything like Sony's account system, I'll be very happy.
What I'd like to know is if they are going to add more countries under this new program. Thus far if you happen to live in Europe you have only been able to register to Club Nintendo if you happened to live in one of the bigger countries. I don't personally mind the physical rewards but not living in one of the Club Nintendo countries has made me unable to get some digital rewards like the SSB Mewtwo DLC for free even though I own both versions of the game.
So until Nintendo announces if this new program will be available outside the borders of the Club Nintendo countries I will not get hyped up by any news regarding the service.
Sounds promising Nintendo.......
Nicely NX
@Hy8ogen But the Playstation Mobile bit is a total waste of time. (The Xperia Play would have been ok but it only had like 6 games).
" With this new membership, we are planning to deploy services that will make playing Nintendo games with their game pals more fun regardless of which platform they are accessing."
This is interesting.Wonder if this means a better communication experience. So you would be able to message and voice chat with your friends list regardless of what device they're on. Perhaps this is why splatoon has no voicechat. It will be implemented into the system now and not the games.
With of how many games I registered on club nintendo, being able to have all of them transfer over is a really great decision! I can't wait to see what this is and what kind of goodies will be available for everyone!
Nintendo managed to say nothing in a lot of words there. Wake me up when they've actually confirmed cross-platform play.
Every time I hear more about this I just get more excited! So looking forward to a full reveal.
It's about time that Nintendo catches up with the times, but when I think about the term "services" I think of a subscription service. I'm not saying that the plan is to have one, but if they do it better be worthwhile. Especially if they want people to keep paying. That being said, there was no mention of a pricing structure so this is all conjecture... for now that is.
If Nintendo had a console with the power of the other two for third party support, a solid online infrastructure, and all that can love they are so good at generating they would dominate. In my opinion they have the best exclusives on the market.
@Geonjaha As is having a system where developers can programme multiplayer between different consoles?
@ikki5
The problem that Nintendo is having now is the same problem that Sega had in the early 90s - an overly cautious board of directors. Traditional Japanese businessmen have a tendency to be slow and deliberate in their actions, and they're mainly what's holding Nintendo back, I think. Sega dealt with the same thing in the early 90s, causing a lot of strife between Sega of America and Sega of Japan.
Is there any information in this quote? It's basically just a more long-winded recap of what was already told before.
He said dedicated gaming system, NX, instead of gaming platform this time. Hmm. I'm sure Iwata's under pressure to deliver news but sometimes I feel like he talks in circles lol.
I'd just like to not have digital purchases tied to the device from which they were purchased, and a far better eShop experience that's uniform across all platforms.
@MitchVogel That would be awesome. I hope it means we'll see a virtual console rebirth of sorts as well.
It dons on me that we don't know what the PC side of this is, like at all. Man, if Nintendo created their own download service, at least for classic games, like Steam or GOG, that'd be a huge money maker. Unless they, you know, keep the absurdly high prices in the current Virtual Console format.
It's nice to see that they're finally starting to understand the "universal login" for all their stuff, but seriously, this is still way behind the times. It's not just Sony and Microsoft, but also Steam, Google, Apple, etc. have understood this concept for ages.
Man, I want to be happier about this, but it's like being happy that someone "is just getting up to zero."
I moved away from Mobile gaming for REAL games. I hope we don't get half baked micro transaction games.
They just need to roll this out soon. Club Nintendo will completely cease to exist in just a month.
@Yorumi
Can you give me examples that make you think Nintendo is "pretending like this is some revolutionary idea"?
Iwata is carefully explaining their plans on an unfinished service. Maybe I'm missing something but you seem to be seeing something I am not.
@foobarbaz
While I have reservations about it, you seem to be basing your supposition on this statement: "People who play those types of mobile games don't care about 'real games'."
That is simply not true. People who are dedicated gamers are probably even more likely to play simple games on their phones to pass the time than non-gamers or casuals.
I'm pretty sure there is a large swath of gamers that still have fond memories of Nintendo or would be attracted to it (even if just for playing with their kids) but have never bought into the hardware and would rather Nintendo brought its games to their console of choice.
Anyway, how significant that number is, I don't know.
@Yorumi He's explaining the business plans at a financial results briefing. This is typical practice.
From Nintendo's past of approaching things from a different perspective, I for one and glad about how specific he is being with it. Your example throwaway comments leave out all the details I'd want to know.
Uh, huh. I have a hard time believing any of Nintendo's hyping of an "account system". Call me in 5-10 years when they finally do have a real account system.
I wonder if theyll finally add a combined Trophy or Achievement program to all of this. Im not a trophy hunter myself, Im about level 11 on PSN but still not a single Plat, but I know a lit of people care about those things. Heck even King hss a combined program for all itd casual games, Im up to level 192 or so on there. If King can do it for its handful of casual games Nintendo should make 1 combining its 3DS, Wii U and new DeNA games.
I dont care what they call it, just so the trophy hunting over achiever types have something to shoot for.
Only one person so far has likened this to Steam? I was expecting more people to make connections there. That would be awesome if Nintendo was moving in that direction though, because their current account system needs a huge revamp.
I just want my Nintendo swag. DLC games are cool but the physical goods are just so much better.
Cross-buy and cross-save and I'm sold
Achievements, achievements, achievements please!!
To modernise and make this platform successful, Nintendo needs to include one or more of these things:
1. A cloud sync system (like Steam, XBlive, etc)
2. Better online functionality in games like Smash (voice chat, no having to add people to your friend list so you can play with them, etc)
3. A better Youtube program (this will generally increase sales of the new console and Nintendo games- a must!)
4. A less gimmicky controller for their new console...
@jasonbrr long shot
It's about dam* time don't you think....Really exciting to know that they are finally doing this.
I'm fine with this as long as nintendo kills region locking
Also no achievements or trophys, those are pointless
Nintendo is planning to dump it's console powers. Slowly by first getting people from Japan addicted. Truth be told the war in the orient ( or should I saw genocidal slaughter that has no real ending ) is taking THE LIVES OF NINTENDO GAMERS. THAT IS WHY NOBODY CAN REALLY BUY NEW SYSTEMS WHEN YOUR FRIENDS ARE NOT ALIVE!!!!!!!
Interesting
@ikki5 Amen to that. But the only way Iwata's going to leave Nintendo is when he retires. You're 100% correct, though: he's quite possibly the WORST thing to ever happen to arguably the world's greatest gaming company.
I'm glad. I've never been too keen on Club Nintendo, and a more accessible service will definitely comply. I like the direction Nintendo is going currently... if appealing to the majority means keeping their company alive, then I say go for it, even it that means making mobile games and a mobile-esque gaming platform.
@seb5049 Nobody at any point said the NX was a home console. I'm fairly certain the NX is going to be a handheld to replace the 3DS. That said, there's nothing too gimmicky about the DS systems; the second screen was more revolutionary than it was on the Wii U, and the 3D definitely helps in 3D platformers. It will be interesting to see where Nintendo goes from the 3DS, though.
@allav866 The DS gimmick was awesome, but I was talking about the gamepad more...
@allav866 Sure the "NX" is a 3DS successor?
@allav866 Sure the "NX" is a 3DS successor?
@SHULZ21 @seb5049 In my head it wouldn't make much sense it it were a Wii U successor, since the Wii U hasn't been available that long, and is starting to see some success. The 3DS will have been out for 5 years by the time the NX is announced, possibly 6 by the time it releases. It seems more likely to me that the NX will replace the handheld.
@ikki5 0/5 Iwata rules!
@AVahne call me when theres an actual legit reason for them to have one.
Do not want some jerk hacking my acc for free games.
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