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This is correct, they are both masterpieces and vastly different in some ways. I'd argue that the art style, world, exploration, and wide variety in Zelda is better than Horizon. However the story and combat is better in Horizon.

Either way both were amazing.

Free DLC for early adopters and people who buy before a certain point for a $10 title I loved, but never expected to see DLC for? Pay attention Nintendo, this is how you do DLC.

@JaxonH Fair enough. I read your response to another person and I hadn't considered that the game has been out for months in Japan. Regardless I think the fact that it's all coming out within weeks and so much is being asked for it just doesn't look good.

What makes DLC like this so scuzzy is the fact that so many of their hardcore fans are completionists so the company knows they want all the content so they strong arm their most loyal consumers to get even more money from them. Before we've even paid for the actual game they already want more.

@JaxonH I have nothing but respect for you over after seeing and responding to you on these threads, but I don't think I can agree. I feel this is a clear cash grab and I think the only reason anyone defends it is because it is Nintendo.

Honestly I'd rather just see these companies charge what they think a game is worth up front rather than do the nickel and dime approach with DLC.

@JaxonH That is a good point, though not entirely accurate as this isn't the same game and shares almost no assets of the original. So much work here is done and so much added it can't really be called the same game, and rightfully so as I doubt anybody would pay $40 for the original game with no changes. So really they made this while making this game and it was part and parcel of the package.

Clearly they just couldn't figure a way to make people buy two copies of the same game again (ala Fates), but still wanted that money.

@Grandpa_Pixel Except it isn't? Especially since a good chunk is coming mere weeks after the game itself and costs more than the game proper. Clearly they cut content out expressly to sell back to consumers.

If you are a completionist you now have to spend $115 all told with tax and that isn't including the extra $20 for the CE.

@Yasume You are right in a way, but I've gotten to the point I just want everything on the Switch. Regardless whether it is on another console having that ability to pick up and go is something you cant appreciate until you have it. I've been playing Horizon after Zelda and I just want to be able to take it on the go.

In addition many people didn't play this game and I'm personally excited about it because of how portable the experience now can be and the chances it opens for me to play with people.

It's going to be a bloodbath.

I've met the man and he is extremely humble and kind. His show was fantastic with a flawless free style rap based on what the audience was holding up at the very end.

@Ryu_Niiyama To be fair I never saw it go live, but it now has the unavailable sign up. I put both of them on my nowinstock tracker, but I'm not holding my breath. Even my local store was out of preorders for the TP Zelda. We still don't know who is getting Majora's Mask and thus the Fierce Diety armor in BotW.

I thought with the amiibo we were done with this.

@rjejr And the TP Link and Amazon exclusive Skyward Sword were gone in seconds. Cool.

@EternalDragonX That is fundamentally how consumerism works. If you want something enough that you feel is worth the moneym you buy it. If you don't than you abstain. You don't get to make the argument it should be free because you don't want to buy it.

@EternalDragonX Nice bonuses from amiibo that people constantly complain they don't do enough with that aren't even remotely the nicest armor in the game = filthy greed? Good to know.

@Kalmaro Good point, it really is hard to tell especially with multiplayer games since changes in that front tend to be incremental. I think as long as it has a new campaign we can call it a straight up sequel as much as you can call anything a sequel.

@Kalmaro I don't think it's hard to see that's the case, though to be fair most MP sequels are exactly that: small iterative changes.

I think it's fine, I want Splatoon on my new device either way. I would have been perfectly ok with a port. To look at this and the short turn around and not know it's a way to put Splatoon on the Switch to sell to a larger audience is silly. Especially since they have to change so little to make a "sequel" a viable option. Why call something a port if you can add some new stuff and call it a sequel?

It is clear this is basically a port with a slight amount of new options and weapons. Unless it has a new updated Single Player I'm unsure how they can call this Splatoon 2.

Secret of Mana was so huge for me and my brothers in childhood. I'd really like to play it again.

Even though it shows available on GS and allows you to out in your cart it isn't working and says it's already sold out.

Bomberman was expensive because it was a launch game and they could get away with it. Rime makes no sense and I'll be curious to see if that is the Eshop price also. Having it on the go is a big plus in my book for Switch, but if this becomes a regular thing where I can get it on other consoles cheaper we have an issue.

I've never liked the hat honestly. I've unlocked traditional tunics and hats through the amiibo, but I can't bear to let go of the amazing looking Hylian hood and Champion Tunic. I just keep going back to it.

Honestly the only problem I have with the Switch is it constantly trying to swap to that HDMI port while plugged in on sleep mode. I just unplug the HDMI so not a huge deal.

Other than that absolutely in love with it and playing one of the best games I've ever played wherever I want doesn't hurt the love either.

I just can't believe that they haven't announced Super Mario Run coming out on Mario day especially when it's coming out in March. Feels like a huge miss.

It looks amazing.

Odd. I'd put a user ID in months ago. Under my Mii name it says my user ID, but I don't know if I still need to do something?

I'm very shocked this is coming over and thrilled you don't have to have the game to play the RPGs as it's brilliant. Gaming sites will report on popular campaigns and people will play them and all they'll need is a 3DS. That in turn might make them buy the game and so on. Genius.

You actually can already do this. You just have to call Nintendo and wait a few days and they connect to the other console. Then you can download all your stuff.

It's nonsense though and desperately needs to go.

@lighteningbolt79 Critically that isn't true. Sure you have gamer bros who can't play anything with color, but almost across the board gamers agree stuff like Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a masterpiece.

@lighteningbolt79 If you are a gamer who wants to experience the best the industry has to offer than yes, you need a Nintendo machine.

Man what a PR nightmare. The point of the Switch was merging your console and handheld buainesses and you are already talking about a possible replacement?

Free to play game with summoning heroes? Oh man Nintendo, how the mighty have fallen.

I'll try it of course, but as many trash pay to win hero summoning games as I've played, I have zero faith.

@Kobra I really wish this was true, but NOA confirmed it: only for that month.

@Yorumi I spend very little time on forums or comment sections so it's a red flag when I know a person's user name and how they will react to anything.

I just can't fathom why a person who hates anything and everything a company does would spend his time arguing and relentlessly putting down everything they put out on a website dedicated solely to that brand.

Being critical of a company is ok, nobody should be a blind fanboy, but going the opposite route isn't any prettier.

We get it, you hate Nintendo and your PC is the best.

@Urameshi I think they could release a ton of these games day one, but what would be the point? Anyone that's going to buy the system is going to buy Zelda day one. That's not even debatable. If you are big enough fan to jump onboard with Nintendo day one then chances are very good you are a Zelda fan.

They could likely out Skyrim out day one, but next to Zelda it would sell garbage. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe in April gives them some breathing room before that and than Splatoon in summer followed by Mario on Holiday and that is just the tip of the iceberg not counting tons of indies that will show up between now and then and projects we don't even know about yet.

Throwing a ton of games out day one just to say look at our launch lineup is short sighted and foolish. PS4 didn't have much of anything to play for half a year after coming out and imho didn't have a jaw dropping must have exclusive until Uncharted 4.

It is the internet. People just want to be outraged and impatient and so they are.

@Yorumi Honestly it's encouraging they want to charge for online play, maybe they will become more serious about it. Both of its competitors already charge for online pay Sony having to add it to be able to keep up with Xbox's already fantastic online.

All of that costs money and it has to come from somewhere. No voice chat or other online options and people would have complained. Well here is what that sort of thing costs. We still know far too little to decry it and certainly not enough to justify your vitriol over it.

The price is my only hurdle. I was really excited before finding it was a full priced game.

I just want to see preorders announced for the next day or following the broadcast. We've waited long enough and I really don't want to get any more excited for a device that there is a good chance I won't be able to pick up at launch no matter how much I'd like to.

I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that a repeat of the Mini NES is incoming. Rumors of even less than a Wii U launch when everyone seems to want one and with scalpers waiting to pounce: it's going to be a nightmare for actual fans.

I'm going to hope they announce preorders next day in US (since major retailers will be closed) and line up really early next day at a brick and mortar where chances are better to get one.

I'm not super confident of my chances.

I really love reading these Nindie pieces.

Love Nintendo Life, have a great New Year everyone.

The Best Wii U game release all year is missing: Tadpole Treble.

From what I know and reading the article it's very clear it is vaporware.

Not launching on Android was a big mistake I think. You are ignoring a huge market that, when they do get it, all of their Apple friends will have moved on.

That being said I can't understand how that person wrote that review. I vastly prefer paying for and owning a game than having stupid paygates and unnecesary difficulty spikes unless I pay money.

What I think is stupid is paying real money for fake money so I can continue in a game and then be forced to pay that same amount next week. If they put the average amount you have to spend to really enjoy a free to play game and listed it as the price I bet Super Mario Run would be one of the cheapest games out there.

So jealous of you UK folks.

I'm extremely concerned about preorders at this point.

Throws a kink in my plan. Had taken the day off and was going to watch in a GameStop parking lot in case they announced preorders after the event.

If they announce preorder date now during event, and they'd almost have to, it'll be borderline impossible to get a preorder.

Affordable and lengthens the distance from the console. Sold.

Kass' design is just stellar in my opinion.

Man what an amazing trailer. That is totes Zelda.

@8itmap_k1d True enough though everyone expected March or it wouldn't be news it might be coming out later than expected. I've waited so long to play this game and was really looking forward to it.

I love the Xbox brand. Not sure what all the hate is for.