Nintendo caused quite a bit of heated discussion when it confirmed that online shooter Splatoon would lack voice chat. The ability to communicate with fellow players is a staple of other online shooters, but Nintendo decided against including it in this ink-covered offering. Critics immediately started sharpening their knives, accusing the Japanese company of being over-cautious on the matter.
Speaking in an exclusive interview with Nintendo Life that goes live later today, Splatoon producer Hisashi Nogami spoke a little about the reasons for leaving voice chat out of the game. His comments tally up with Nintendo's previous stance, but he does at least admit that the company is aware of how important voice communication is in online gaming - it's just that the risk meant it wasn't worth factoring it in:
We want everyone to play this game from the same point, so that all players – those who haven't played shooters before, as well as those who have – can enjoy the game. Getting to this though meant going through a selection process for all features that should appear in the game, and as part of this process we decided to leave out voice chat.
We think there are two reasons for wanting to use it: to play strategically, and to know what you opponent is feeling. We designed the game so that it's still possible to play strategically, while also giving due consideration so that there is no extreme advantage one way or the other. In terms of knowing what your opponent is feeling, we really do understand the fun that can be had with this, but we hope that you will also understand that it can also have a negative effect too.
Irrespective of your own personal opinion, it's easy to see Nogami's point. Anyone who has played a game of Call of Duty with voice chat will be well aware that there are a lot of potty-mouthed players out there, and having a complete stranger hurl expletives at some of Nintendo's younger players would almost certainly result in parents confiscating Wii U consoles all over the globe. And we don't know about you, but Splatoon is perfectly playable without voice comms; with small teams of four and compact maps, it's not hard to work out strategies and support one another.
Nogami-san also touched upon another sticking point in the interview - the staggered content roll-out for the game. At launch, some grumbled about the lack of maps and modes. Nintendo has already taken steps to remedy that by unlocking the Ranked Battle mode and introducing a new weapon and map, and more content is on the way.
When quizzed about this aspect of the game, Nogami stated that there were two main reasons for holding things back:
First, we put a lot of effort into every inch of the online stages, so by playing them over and over again users can get a better feel for the terrain, giving the gameplay more breadth and depth. The characteristics of the weapons and the strategies for using them vary with each weapon, and of course these will vary depending on the stage you use them in and even what combination of equipment your teammates and opponents are using. We want users to enjoy each and every single piece of content we've prepared, so rather than provide a lot at once, we're going to be adding them a little at a time.
Second, is that while we've paid a lot of attention to the balancing the game, the flip-side of this is that we feel the game needs weapons with a lot of variety as well as stages with complex layouts to really expand the gameplay.
The problem there is that these can sometimes disrupt the overall balance of the game.
The real fun of Splatoon comes when players are comfortable with the game, and are able to play to their full potential with other players they meet in the online matches.
We'll be adding more stages and weapons as we see how the community matures. We'll also do something similar with further game modes too.
What's your take on these points? Post a comment below to share it, and don't forget to check back later today for the full interview with Nogami-san.
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So pleased that there is no voice chat. Thanks Nintendo!
I was put off playing games on other platforms when I realised that being (badly) insulted and sworn at by a 12-year old American (and others) wasn't really adding to my gaming enjoyment.
@BLPs It would still be exclusive if we're the source...
Okay so just give us voice chat with friends in the lobby pre match similar to Mario Kart 8. And if you're going to go on about how hte maps call for different load outs, let us change weapons in the lobby as well.
I wouldn't mind giving us 3 customized load outs we can personalize and just give us the 3 to select from on the gamepad in the lobby.
So they're basically nurturing the experience to assure it's doesn't devolve into something not everyone can enjoy.
I agree that voice chat could potentially ruin the experience. If only monkeys could control themselves! Haha!
One thing that zero voice chat provides its fairness. When playing CoD or battlefield when ever you came across a team of players in a party or clan whilst you're with randoms some mic'd some not and you end up getting destroyed for the entire match is not fun.
hopefully they bring voice chat in the 8 friends and 4 friends modes
*waits for someone to say "but you can just turn off the voice chat if you don't like people screaming and cursing at you."
Exactly how it should be done. Great gameplay for everybody.
It doesn't answer why there isn't voice chat for friends.
I'm over it, personally—I'll use Skype, despite the inconvenience. However, Nintendo says it wants to reach all peoples, so removing voice chat opens gates. Little does it know/admin that it also is hurting other persons from playing it. I get that Nintendo is family friendly, but I don't see why they can't make games that appeal to a more particular audience. There are many Nintendo fans of old that have sadly grown out of the sentimental feelings Nintendo offers [which is a darn shame]. This could've been a way to get them back.
I feel like the voice chat outrage was for most people never really about the quality of Splatoon specifically, but rather an expression of a broader frustration about Nintendo's implementation of a number of modern connectivity options across their games and platforms.
Once again, for most people I feel the echoing outrage was not solely out of concern for the quality of Splatoon and its gameplay specifically.
Voice chat in ranked battles would be much appreciated.
Good. I have never felt the need for voice chat while playing, anyways. Seriously, the fact that some people were going to boycott this game because of the lack of voice chat just baffles me.
@Ichiban really. I've been through a handful of ranked battles where my players may be good rankedwise, but we lose so often due to lack of structure. People still play the independent game. And the fact that I'm consistently #1 in a lot of those games when we lose is a very shocking factor (since i'm far from great)
Given the things I shout when I end up with dead weight teammates in ranked I can't say I miss it. Then I use skype when I play with friends, so I can't say I'm all that inconvenienced.
Being able to communicate with your team member does very little (if anything) to help you win a game.
Last weekend, me and 3 of my friends (all in a Skype call) managed to get on the same team against 4 other random people. There were a few times were we demolished the other team, but also many times where we go utterly destroyed by the exact same team.
The pace of this game is so fast that we never had time to come up with a strategy (other than pushing their base at the last 20 or so seconds lol)
While voice chat in this game would be nice, it's just not necessary. It wouldn't add to the game imo
preset messages would be nice like in MH4U. Like "I need backup" or "roller nearby". Anything really to get a basic message out. It doesn't even need to be customizable. ANY communication would be beneficial to me.
why not give players the choice if they wanna use voice chat?
It sucks that they didn't give players a option for friend only voice chat. I'm so tired of nintendo consoles never being convenient. It is a hassle to set up and play games with friends. I really wish a party chat option would happen. So much shills in this comment section happy about having less options smh.
I can easily agree to the reasoning behind omitting voice chat - it's what I assumed ever since it was confirmed.
But I must say: the developers contradict themselves when stating that they want maps to be enjoyable for players. If that was a priority, why not only randomize, but also artificially restrict the choice of battlegrounds? This becomes a big issue when the game also doesn't allow you to even train on a map to get a rough idea on how it works.
About the chat, we are playing with people all around the world, and excuuuse me, but not everyone speaks perfect, no accent english. I have seen a lot of japanese characters in the names, so really, chat with strangers is no need. With friends is a different talk....
@ThumperUK Because their nationality has so much to do with it...
I hate voice chat. To my experience people always let their annoying kids sit and scream in the microphone. No voice chat is a positive, not a negative.
What a shocker almost everyone here is happy or don't care voice chat is in this game good job everyone.Screw the people who wanted it right? I could care less about this dev giving excuses about this,i just wanted an choice to use that's it nothing more nothing less.
All they had to do was put in a mute button, their reasoning is hilarious.
I sorta prefer no voice chat. If it's there, you feel like you HAVE to use it or you're not a useful part of the team.
Common voice chat sucks.
I still want voice chat with my friends! I have to text my friend when I join him online...
I like it how it is. By the time a friend yells to me to help them and I get there, they would get splatted twice. And if I needed it, I could get skype so no big deal.
I suppose that allowing voice chat while adding an option to disable it at will (or to leave it enabled only for players in your friend list) was out of the question... 9____9
@jenkje same here, call of duty, nothing be racial epithet after f word and every gay slur you can think of... And these are little kids doing this? It's really sick...
I get what he's saying but I think adding voice chat for friends would have been ok. Also; while I personally think nearly 30 single player levels, 5 multi-player maps, a simple local multi-player and quite a bit of upgrading/customisation, is a decent package for the price—I don't think a couple of extra multi-player maps from day one would have been a bad thing; if only to shut up the people complaining of not enough content.
I'm more interested in them tweaking some of the other small complaints/issues people have; like not being able to exit matches easily and switch load-outs while waiting on a match starting, or not being able to skip the squid sisters cutscene, and stuff like that.
@Danrenfroe2016 That mute button looks pretty nice right now!
I See why Nintendo left out voice chat sure. I have played a fair share of regular battles the last week and I often caught myself angered UP! and ready to scream at some of the giant n00bish players just going for kills rather than turf. That's just me: "I WAN'T TO WIN!!!"
So yeah I see why it's a good move to keep voicechat out......... OF REGULAR BATTLES! But why oh! why in g**s name didn't nintendo implement voice chat in the new upcoming mode, when you play with friends only.
The objective of the game is twofold. 1) Cover as much area as possible and 2) kill enemies so that objective 1 becomes easier.
Voice chat makes objective 2 easier (callouts like they are pushing right, one near our base, sniper high right, etc) Objective 1 would not need voice chat because you could simply look at your map. I feel like Voice with friends would be suitable or in ranked battles at the very least.
A few people go on about just adding a mute button, boom; problem solved but at that point, it'd be a rarely used feature supposedly. What'd be the point of adding a feature that's either useless or used for the wrong reasons? Miiverse alone can prove that we would not use Voice Chat for the game's attended purposes and since Splatoon aims to appeal to all, it's potentially an obstacle (business-wise) than anything else. Not the mention the language barrier.
Now Voice Chat with Friends is a different story; I wouldn't need it there either (guess why...) but I know you can't really defend the lack of that aspect.
I'm so happy that there's no voice chat in Splatoon I really don't give a damn about kiddies shouting to each other, at each other... (also, I am aware that when things get heated up I happen to swear... ) — one good thing though that I noticed is that since there're no other means of communication than "To me" and looking at the map, players get more and more aware and focused on the map, which is good, since it slowly opens more and more bold strategical moves
@KomrathDE Just saying you swear is enough --Jazzer
Yeah, good luck using voice chat with Japs, various Europeans and Latin Americans of various shapes, tones, and sizes, and your classic Americans!
I played with a friend while we were having outside-the-game voice chat and must say I noticed no difference in the results. Sure with a friend it's nice to comment the match, but strategically it was way faster to act according to each other actions than speak about plans XD
@Kaze_Memaryu Not sure if it fills at least partially what you mean with "train on a map to get a rough idea on how it works.", but at least it's possible to enter the empty map for check it out and learn its secrets and layouts before playing with other 7 people in it, I found it pretty useful when they added the new map.
The games are so frantic i barely ever have time to glance at the map to see where the ink distribution is. I'd hate to have to worry about teammates positions or listening to someone elses instructions whilst dodging snipers and jumping over a kraken. Maybe voice could help in ranked but it still seems pretty full-on
@NintendoFan64 Because I like to play games with my friends?
Isn't that what Nintendo's all-inclusive brand (since the debut of the Wii) supposed to be all about?
My two best friends live hours travel away from me in opposite directions, and we'd LOVE to play Splatoon together, but there's no point without voice chat.
I get no voice for random online (I only play online on my Xbox 360 with friends, and I always play with other players muted when I do so with game modes that include other players), but no chat for friends is absurd.
I get the man's point, but I'm sorry, only Nintendo would create an online, team based shooter and then not allow you to communicate with your team.
I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't found a way to ban trash talk when you're playing Smash Bros. on the couch with your friends. Heaven forbid anybody swear when playing a Nintendo game.
What other features allow you to play this game strategically? There is no voice chat and you can't even switch out weapons and gear based on the selected map. Don't get me wrong Splatoon is still a great game, but it some of the decisions that the design team made are a bit strange.
It's a good thing I have unlimited minutes on my phone so I can talk to my friends while I play.
Seems like there was more on the game then we realized. I'm sure most thought a lot wasn't on disc and would need updates. I like how Nintendo is releasing the maps and weapons as it keeps the game fresh, yes I said it FRESH!!
@DreamyViridi Why add anything to anything if we used the logic you just presented.
With voice chat he does make a good point. Also I think people forget how children have a tendency to mimic what they see and hear to the point where it can potentially be dangerous
I found a mistake. "and to know what you opponent is feeling."
Ah, I didn't want voice chat anyway. Don't feel like having someone scream at me and curse constantly.
I was one of those that really wanted game chat in ALL the online games for the Wii U. However, over time, I have found myself enjoyung games just as much, without the voice chat.
That does not stop me from talking to friends when playing online. I have a TeamSpeak sever on my PC. Anyone who has a PC, and has TeamSpeak installed is welcome to join. The TS address is:
85.236.100.85:15507
Hopefully some of you will join. It does not cost you a penny. We can talk in game, out of game, all playing different games, and I think I can have up to 20 people on at once.
I think just about all the heading puns have been exhausted now
That's fine and good. But there is NO REASON to not have voice chat with friends. At least in a lobby area, like with Mario Kart or Smash Bros. With turf wars it's not that big of a deal, but with splat zones, it's almost a necessity.
Nintendo create the freshest and original shooter in years, if not ever, but still people complain because it doesn't include features that other FPS shooters have. It's like they want to play COD with Nintendo skin. These are probably the same people who want Nintendo to make a PS with Nintendo skin - it ain't ever gonna happen.
When will these people realise that Splatoon is different. And being different means not having the things that the million and one COD clones does have.
Splatoon is utterly fantastic.
@DroothR Okay, I'll give you that. It would be nice to talk with friends. But still, really? People are going to demonize this game and boycott it because of ONE thing? You're going to let this one thing, this one tiny thing, ruin the entire game for you? If it was something like the game being so horribly broken or glitches being everywhere, then I would understand. But no, it's just voice chat, which isn't even a necessity, really. It's more like a privilege, if anything. Plus, there are other ways to chat without it being in the game. There are ways to chat using your computer, and not just through skype.
Also, @TwilightAngel there are actually people getting upset about it.
Been thinking about this and I can sorta see why voice chat is currently not in. One reason is what they mentioned, but that could be solved by muting it. Then we have the issue of people who can communicate having an advantage over those who mute it. Only way to really get rid of the lack of balance there would be to not have the feature there.
For games that are all friends though, I hope they have voice chat since there is little to no excuse for not having that unless the network can't handle it.
Just create and option to turn it off, turn to friends only or have it on full... have it default to off really and you've got no problem... there problem solved.... but it won't sadly.
People also need to stop with the voice chat vs CoD. CoD is not the only game with voice chat. Many games have this. Many team games have this.
@Jazzer94 - It's flawed, right? I'm just trying to think of this from a business perspective. Well, I'm just mainly talking about the feature when it comes to talking to strangers; considering the reputation of the feature shown here.
If one's to complain about the lack of Voice Chat, they should talk about it for friends as that side of the argument is more valid.
At first it seemed short sided that you didn't have voice chat and the matches had random partners. But in the context of letting everyone have fun it makes perfect sense. The voice chat for obvious reasons, but the random match making makes even more sense. It sucks to hear "potty mouths", but it's even worse to get matched up against a group that plays 10 hours today and maps out complicated strategies and just get completely blown out over and over. Trust Nintendo and ye shall be rewarded. LOL!
@NintendoFan64 It absolutely is a necessity.
I could play Gears Of War 3 with my friends, chat, and basically just enjoy a day of socializing with friends (as normal people do with the people they are close to), and I would like to do the same in Splatoon (in fact, I'd prefer it, the game itself looks marvelous!), but to play Splatoon with friends would be pointless, as I couldn't actually talk to any of them. Sure, I could install PC software, sign up to communication services, and buy PC voice peripherals, and hope that it would work as a proxy, but why invest all of that effort JUST because Nintendo was short sighted?
OR I could just play online with friends on Xbox 360 (where chat works effortlessly across all games), and just stick to playing single play only titles on my Wii U... =
Again, no voice chat for strangers, I understand (and respect) that. But no friend chat is ridiculous.
video gamers aren't mature enough to have voice chat. It's sad, but it's proven. I'm glad Nintendo has stayed away from it, and I hope they continue to do so.
Normally we can all agree that it's a staple in a shooting game, but something like Splatoon. I think we can all agree we don't really need voice chat at all. I mean, Skype is still an option to use when playing with friends. Many other possible ways.
What about a- could they have done is something like a Voice Link. It starts out with Voice Chat off, but you can make a Chat Party and invite whom ever. I know some flaws in that, but just a thought.
Brilliant.
The last section seems to take into account exactly what gamers want and need out of a game to keep them playing. Can't wait to finally get my hands on this game.
The 'friends only' chat option is still not a guarantee for Nintendo that no harm can be done by miiverse "friends" who are not truly friendly once they get on voice chat in a game.
Nintendo is fully protecting its gameplay experiences here to maintain its "safe out of the box" reputation. 100 online posts in a row of "But I should have the option" isn't going to change a company wide stance that goes beyond one game's features
Maybe they should add left-handed controls. .. . and no voice chat with friends SUCKS!!! welcome back to the stone age. . . Nintendo was known for always having the best options for customizing your controller and now, they are more worried about some person who never played a shooter to be happy and not there core, this isn't the Wii. . well its in the name , , and it looks like one too .. . this is still weird. . .
@DroothR You talk about laying out the cost to buy a headset, buy PC voice peripherals. Most households have a PC these days. Most, if not all come with a headset socket. The only outlay is for a headset, and that is just ONE outlay. On the other two consoles, you are shelling out every month, so actually, using a PC and something like TS is a lot cheaper.
I would never use voice chat--at least not with anyone but friends--but they still should have put the option in there for those that like being sworn at by 13-year-old miscreants.
@DroothR Okay, you make some good points there. But as @akaDv8R said, it actually is cheaper to do that than pay for online services on the other two consoles every month. So you have a problem with getting the necessities and having to pay for them once...yet you're willing to pay for them on a monthly basis? Still, if you want voice chat with friends, I can't fault you for that.
Edit: Also, it's not a necessity. It's a privilege. People have just become so accustomed to it that they feel like every online game has to have it, when they don't
I get the lack of voice chat. Now putting a mute button would be an ideal situation, but most people would use that mute button, thus, putting the players that do utilize VC at an advantage. Furthermore, there's also the language barrier. I mean, I'm sure most of you have been in rooms with more than half the players being Japanese. There's also the occasional Spanish, Dutch, and some language you haven't even heard of.
That is why VC with random players is not a big deal. However, I agree with the general opinion of VC when it comes to friends; VC should be allowed with friends.
@Mus1cLov3r
I said......sworn at by a 12-year old American (and others) ....
This was because the foul-mouthed brat said he was 12 and from bleeping Wisconsin !
I am fully aware that many countries have similar idiots who spoil online games with stupid chat. I'd love a chat system monitored in the same way as MiiVerse which is a great friendly community thriving because bad language and offensive behaviour is not tolerated.
Now I'll never know what it's like to be called a n*gger in a game of Splatoon...oh well.
Though it seems we also play with Japanese players, so having voice-com would be a problem with the language barrier in some cases.
he's basically admitting they gimped the strategic potential (ie gameplay) to make the playing field level. i don't appreciate that.
Oh I've been infuriated by people on Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate to the point I quit playing the game for a few days because of voice chat. When I play games like 4U or something without chat, usually my friends and I just Skype. Strangers are left in the dark.
i enjoyed the article. cool insights. but saying, "And we don't know about you, but Splatoon is perfectly playable without voice comms..." is like saying life is perfectly worth living without sight. yes, its still fun but not as good as it should be.
I'm pleased with the lack of voice chat in random Regular battles but would appreciate them implementing something for friend only battles down the road.
I'm glad there is no Voice chat - Completely puts me off playing online if I'm honest. I'm too old for all that business and rough and tumble. The world needs more gentleman gamers I say.
@BLPs YES 100%! Voice chat and the garbage that is spewed over it in pretty much every shooter is one of the biggest reasons I avoid online shooters. It's one thing if I'm playing with friends that I know but to hear the voices of random strangers vomit words through a headset just makes me not want to play that game. I absolutely love Splatoon and the way they did everything is almost perfect. And this is a game I didn't even think I would like.
I just wish there were more useful things to say via the D Pad. Such as:
D Pad Left = "I'll go left!"
D Pad Right = "I'll go right!"
D Pad Up = "Move up!"
D Pad Down = "Help!"
I will never understand why voice chat is so important to so many people (I played CS without it and we had a lot of fun), but I won't judge anyone. Splatoon has no voice chat because the devs want it safe, so there we have it.
But to call the community of Splatoon "the most terrible and awful community" is a little bit exaggerated, @Yorumi. I can understand that this frustrates you, but this is how Splatoon is, whether you like it or not. Is not the community who made the game but Nintendo. If people like this game, let them be. There is always someone who opposes your opinion, but that gives you not the right to call them names or titles. I did this in my past and I regret this today.
@krakensoup I totally agree with you. I played once Halo 3 multiplayer and that was the last time I played a FPS Multiplayer game.
As I said above, we played CS back in the days and we had fun with it, even without voice chat.
So basically they never heard of a MUTE button and they even abandoned chatting with friends.
Oh well, at least the fans are pleased and for them that's what matters.
@Yorumi If you want voice chat so bad, use Skype with your friends.
There's no point having Voice Chat in random matches because, well, unless you speak Japanese, Russian, German, French and English, you'll never get anything done.
besides, games are over so quickly that voice chat isn't needed.
Having played it myself now, I personally don't see any reason to have voice chat and if it was there, mine would always be set to OFF. The premise and map are both so simple that you don't really need to communicate once you have the hang of things, imo.
Just goes to show you can put a positive spin on any negative business practice or decision. Not giving people all the content at once so they can 'appreciate each little bit more'? No. It's because it wasn't all ready in time, and instead of delaying the title, they released it incomplete.
I'm happy without voice chat. Its the gamer equivalent of listening to illiterate valley girls telling each other how their day went. If you want to spend a couple of hours chatting with your mates pick up the phone. Its almost never used for tactics. The lack of consequences for people vilifying or just spamming others with screams and static means we all do without. There is a map between the thumb sticks. No I don't want to mute people, I'd rather not hear them ever. The mood of the game is light and fun but still intense which is quite a feat.
Off topic but this game plays like its on a high end p.c. its good to see Nintendo putting its performance as a priority. Hate those TV kids though
Methinks the game is hectic enough without voice chat. And indeed, with compact maps and short matches you don't really feel the need
I'm glad there is no voice chat, if there was an option to use it and/or turn it off completely i would be fine with that aswell. As long as i dont need to listen to the bs hehe.
I was unhappy this game didn't have voice chat but now I've played it I'm actually glad they didn't.
I do want friends only voice chat though!
@Geonjaha I would personally preferred they released the WORKING game now, and add the other stuff when it is ready. Also, this is new territory for Nintendo, and to put everything out at once would have lead to server problems, lag issues etc. They are collecting a wealtn of data from their servers and their code, and updaing it, and releasing new stuff when the time is right. Unlike the practice of the last 4 CoD games, where ALL the DLC maps were already complete when the game launched, and they had the nerve fo charge you for them when they finally released them, at staggered intervals.
I was interested in this title initially but the lack of certain features has put me off. I love Nintendo, have done for many years but they are so inconsistent when it comes to implementing certain features. Mario Kart 8 is almost a perfect game (only true battlemode arenas and continuous online voice chat with registered friends would complete the package)
At the very least I expected Splatoon to have a local four player split-screen mode (possibly even a fifth player on the gamepad screen) I had visions of a mario kart 8 meets Goldeneye fun FPS I could play with my kids. Yet for some reason it isn't there. Then I find out no voice chat whatsoever, not even in the online lobbies/menus like MK8 offers. That was when I lost interest completely.
When Metroid Prime Hunters came out on the humble DS back in 2006, 9 years ago, it offered voice chat in the game menus... there really are no excuses for omitting what should be a standard feature.
So basically, Nintendo is like North Korea and must control everything for the player and Sony is more like western democratic countries where you have some freedom and options.
@Ryno And Sony is like North Korea because they charge you for online gaming, and Nintendo is like Soutb Korea, who does not, as it costs barely nothing to the companies to provide online services.
@Ryno
Surely you mean NORTH Korea not South? Or do you watch Fox News?
So anyway more to the point, where the heck is the local split-screen mode???? Am I the only person who thinks this should be there?!?!
@Clipo: Obvious and excellent point that pro-voice commenters seem to miss.
This game does not need voice chat. Even if there were no expletives, I don't want other players telling me where to go or what to do. It's 3 glorious minutes, let's all just do what we think needs to be done AND HAVE FUN.
@ThumperUK: lol, whoops! I will edit. Thanks.
@Eclipse_Dj: I'm with you, local split screen is definitely missing especially with a company that is supposedly so focused on local multiplayer.
@Yorumi So lag is produced, dependent on the amount of data the servers are having to process? So, a small map uses the same amount of data and processing as a large map? No it does not. Another vital factor is each individuals connection to those servers. So, by waiting, and monitoring the amkunt of users at peak times, and the amount of users generally, they will have a better idea of the number of servers needed, if they need to have more DEDICATED servers. If they had pushed everything out at once, I guarantee, the game launch would not have gone as smoothly as it has so far.
@Yorumi
I am aware it can be switched off, but from experience you have that few seconds of deafening high-pitched screams and/or insults while I fumble to locate the setting to switch off
No excuses can justify this mistake. Just look at Miiverse right now.
@Yorumi Oh, I see. That is understandable. I had the same problem with other fanbases and communities (in my case the furry fandom) back in the days and I know where you're coming from.
No voice chat is a very good thing, Voice chat is the main reason I don't play CoD, and I always disable it on TF2.
I for one am thankful that voice chat was not included. The game does not need it given how much info it gives you via the Gamepad, the smartly designed maps and the ink trails that both your allies and enemies leave. I really don't see the point in regards to adding voice chat to Splatoon when it clearly does not need it. And why would you want to use the Wii U mic as an option for talking with friends? The quality is awful. Might as well use Skype or other chatting services that are free and have higher quality.
It's clear to me and many others here that Splatoon DOES NOT need voice chat whatsoever. Because of the lack of voice chat, it's provided a pleasant online experience for me and many others, and it keeps the game at a rocking 60FPS, which is vital.
@Yorumi: It's weird, it seems like only with Nintendo are people ok with not having options that are common for most video games.
@Syrek Although I posted info to my TeamSpeak address, I am going to contradict myself somewhat, by agreeing with everyting you pointed out.
@Yorumi
going back to your earlier question regarding why I don't like Voice chat. Its just not for me. I find it more distracting than anything and for me it does not add to my experience or enjoyment of a game. That's why I play games : for my enjoyment and relaxation. I like to switch off after a hard days work. I don't normally play games that require on going conversations and/or tactics. I mostly play platformers, JRPG's and fighters. Splatoon is the first game that is even close to a shooter that I have played in recent years and I'm thankful there is no pressure to communicate. TLDR version is I'm old and a little anti social. But you do have very valid points, I just wanted you to understand where I come from. All the best
@CTs_Lieutenant Not being able to exit a lobby is certainly a unique feature.
Btw I love the game and will definitely be playing it for months. Some of the decisions made were good but some of the are somewhat strange.
OK so none of us enjoy the CoD style open chat with constant cursing teenagers and annoying trolls etc. I get that! but does that mean I should be denied the opportunity to converse with my friends and family members during online games? So that I can gauge their excitement/frustration the other end when things happen within a game. Surely otherwise it is devoid of human emotion, I may as well be playing offline against computer A.I.
@Ryno There are not many games next to Animal Crossing, that uses voice chat as far as I know, so the request for this is pretty slim on a Nintendo console unlike on Sony Playstation 4 or Xbox One. But as mentioned, there are solutions for this missing option. As for me, I don't need it, but that's because I feel a bit unpleasant with this and would be off while gaming.
Glad there's no Voice Chat. It's just not necessarily IMO. Both sides don't have it, no one gets the advantage or disadvantage from it.
Personally, I think it's pretty damn cool how I can be thrown into a random team composed of people from around the world, most of whom don't even speak the same language, but still know what we're supposed to be doing. Splatoon is pretty easy to pick up on and understand. I honestly, don't know how voice chat would improve a 3-minute crazy attack fest.
Wii U should have party chat but I'm not so sure this game really needs voice chat. Certainly not when playing with random people and we switched every battle. I would be happy enough with being able to stay in the same room and switch weapons and sending miiverse messages to people and having them get it immediately (or maybe in inkopolis) without going to miiverse
It just shows how fikkle some people can be. I have heard people say that if anyone else other than Nintendo had released Splatoon, they would have been bashed by both the gamers and the reviewers. Seriously? Hmmm, I remeber the launch of Destiny...... what a disaster. Talk about a broken game. Needed more patches than any game I have ever played before, and is stil, getting them now. Did the masses turn on the company? Of course not, because it was not on a Nintendo console.
The lack of voice chat has not prevented me from buying and enjoying Splatoon but I feel that it was a mistake to leave it out. If you don't want to hear the chat, hit the mute button! I have played a lot of COD on Xbox Live. There has been a lot of times that I couldn't stand the chat content and quickly muted the chat. There has been many other times that I have played with complete strangers and the chat was both helpful and enjoyable. I've met gamers while playing COD that I continued to play with for a very long time.
I'm honestly fine with this, since I dont like voice chatting with strangers and not doing so would put me at a disadvantage. Also, there's the language barrier to think about, it would be pretty sad to see people avoid others from different language speaking countries.
You know, after playing the game, I don't think voice chat would improve the experience in any way, at least in regular battles with strangers. But I'm still not a big fan of Nintendo's won't someone please think of the children attitude. They're called parental controls, use them.
I still think that the lack of voice chat is stupid, if they were worried about people getting offended by what people say online they easily could have added an on/off feature. They were just being lazy.
I'm ok w/ out, I have few Wii U friends, I do have 2 young sons, and many of my matches are w/ players w/ japanese names and I don't speak a word of japanese.
And for turf war 3 minute matches of madness it doesn't really matter.
But 5 minute ranked battles are some serious stuff. And even though I have never played an online shooter in my life, it really seems like it needs voice chat and it would be a much better game w/ it.
Biggest problem though, I do think ranked battles would be much better w/ voice chat at the most competive levels - I'm thinking south Korean televised tournaments - but if you get 1 team of freinds adn 4 random people, I think th e4 randmos, even the best players, may be in trouble if voice is limited to freinds. So havng voice chat for freinds only puts the non-freind players at a severe disadvantage.
So while I get all the hate - Nintedo is behind the times, no voice chat - this isn't COD w/ however many millionplayers bult up over the years. It's a new I on s small Wii U install base, and b/c of that I think it this game currently works better w/o voice.
Though if it ever does become big - which could happen, look at Smash, and that's a Ninteod exclsuive - and battles are broadcast live, I'd like to see those players have voice chat and see how the pros play it. Watching 2 teams of 4 players each w/o voice chat would just seem really stupid.
Voice chat should only be in 8 friends (or tournament) mode.
@Yorumi so your saying having Voice Chat is to counter people in the same room? If that's not what you meant, I don't get your point. My point was, no one gains and no one loses out by not having it.
I'd rather they add a 2v2v2v2 mode for all game modes. Could be fun though a vastly different experience. Maybe they tested that and it didn't work out but it's something I wouldn't mind trying
A wise man once said that you don't reach perfection when there's nothing left to add, but when there's nothing left to take away.
Splatoon, in my opinion, absolutely doesn't need voice chat. Gamepad tracking of the battlefield works great, and lets you play strategically. Plus, voice chat absence also means that there is less strain on the servers, meaning a smoother gameplay experience.
Yeah, it's a personal opinion. But it's one I feel very strongly about after having played the silky-smooth online multiplayer for 10-plus hours.
Ugh no, at no point does he address the question, why I cannot talk to my friends, either specifically while in Splatoon or while online with the WiiU in general. That has nothing at all to do with anything mentioned here. Simply stated, I do not put verberally abusive people on my friendlist, and that is, as they say, that. Anyone who has friends he really does not enjoy talking to at all, has problems that are not up to Nintendo to fix.
I think it's pretty frustrating to have the same scenario play out over and over again. You see someone in bad spot, for example, someone about to be shot from behind, and all you can do is ... watch. That's neither strategic, nor social nor fun.
I'm really starting to question Nintendo's sanity on the issue, their whole argument rests on the idea that voice chat is something that is either active for everyone, all the time without exception, or that is not available at all. That is just pure fiction, as proven by thousands of online games.
Last but not least, and for the thousands time ... protecting younger players from verbal abuse is still a non-starter as arguments go, since we have had mute technology as well as parental locks for ... as long as their is online play basically, so about two decades by now.
I can accept that Nintendo decided to keep Splatoon entirely casual as far as teamplay itself goes, but I have a hard time tolerating their entirely unreasonable and mostly just made-up statements as to why they did this. At this point I much rather they not explain their actions at all, like in the good old days, because if that is their actual factual thinking over there, than I'm really worried about their future, which would be shame, considering how mindblowingly fantastic Splatoon's gameplay is.
I really hate voice chat because of all the trash talking, swearing, and ppl leaving their mics on and hearing the noises in their house, these things don't exactly add enjoyment to my gaming. On the other hand though, they should have an option for ppl that do want it to be able to use it, but have a warning that language and what ppl say might be offensive and it isn't recommended for kids to use.
I like no voice chat, all it does is lead to trouble. Not to mention its not as essential as most people thought, the Gamepads map is all the communication you need for teamwork.
@Yorumi IMO that's not enough of reason to ruin this game by turning Splatoon into COD abuse fest, limiting to friends is one thing, but having open Voice Chat with people you don't know is another
@KingofSaiyans my issue with that is that it would give you an advantage over people who don't want to use it. The negatives by far out weigh the positives
I love that there is no voice chat, however... They should have given more text communication options, instead of just the 2. Also, I would like an option to point on the touch screen map and tell the team to go there, or that something of interest is there.
@abbyhitter Maybe 'cause you can and that alone destroys the entire argument?
The lack of voice chat remains an idiotic, stupid decision and no matter how many times they say something to defend it, it will NOT remove the fact that it is stupid. If people are going to just point out the negative about voice chat and entirely ignore the positive, might as well do the same for DLC. But guess what, Mario Kart 8 proves that DLC can be done right and people are all happy about about shoving in your face how well the DLC is done in that game. But somehow, someway, voice chat will draw yellers and kids who like to cuss and ONLY those? u. fukin. wot. Keep it turned off as default and those who do want to use can just turn it on. Simple solution that still keeps voice chat in the game. So yeah, there's no reason to not have voice chat.
@EngieBengie
It sounds like you're probably the exact reason they don't allow voice chat lol.
@EngieBengie Exactly! But people somehow have a problem trying to wrap their head around that. I think its just the usual Nintendo apologists who want to say everything Nintendo makes is perfect, and if it isn't you are wrong. >_> Can't be perfect all the time, guys.
@MrGuinea It sounds like you are sensible to criticism. I demolished and proved why their arguments for having no voice chat is idiotic. There is literally no reason for it to NOT be there given my solution. And I don't use voice chat and if I were to, I wouldn't be a screamer, cussers and all these things you guys think constitutes the majority of voice chat users which isn't even close to be true.
@AyeHaley You're the most sane person in this discussion I've seen so far. lol
A quick look on the realtime map and you instantly know what's going on with all the colors flying and players moving around.
The problem is not having no voice chat in Splatoon. The problem are all the other shooters that don't provide a second screen with a realtime map.
Honestly, voice chat in Splatoon would destroy the innovative strategies you develop for some of the secondary/special "weapons". Voice chat would make a few weapon sets (like the one with the tracker) redundant. No thanks!
I feel like the sale logic behind "Voice Chat as an option is never a bad thing," could be applied to "Multiplayer as an option is never a bad thing"
There are reasons why games might include or exclude certain features. You may not personally agree with those reasons but it doesn't make those reasons invalid. I don't want Voice Chat in Splatoon, just like I don't want Online Multiplayer in Mario Party, just like I don't want Multiplayer in Dead Space. More features =/= better experience.
Well, there is my two cents.
Most of their reasons just sounds like excuses to me. Though I personally don't care about voice chat, I think it would have been best if the game had it, and the default option muted it. Also, the slowly increasing amount of content suggests to me that the launch of the game was rushed, and I would have much prefered the game having more than 5 maps initially.
Despite my negativity, I'm still really enjoying Splatoon and it's still a great game.
I just want to chat with my friends while playing. I enjoy when my brother and I play on our Xbox systems to be able to just chat and laugh and enjoy the game together: doesn't have much to do with strategy. I think they should have at least had friend chat, but the game is still a masterpiece.
GLAD THERE IS NO VOICE CHAT THIS, AND THAT OMG!
Hey look a mute button.
Plus Evolve most of the time had very respectful people.
Voice chat is 100% unnecessary for Splatoon. Those who really want it can use Skype. Glad I don't have to listen to people making disparaging remarks or blasting their corny music while enjoying this masterpiece. If you don't like it then go back to Call of Duty.
Nintendo fanboys hate options, and this comments section shows it.
@akaDv8R - You're implying that they couldn't release it all at once without it being broken, this is an assumption that is not correct. Also, just because other games have worse business practices doesn't mean this one doesn't still have them. Here's hoping for a world where game released don't just aim to be 'the least bad' of the bunch.
@Yorumi @Project_Dolphin Crunches popcorn Hey, I have an idea. If anyone wants voice chat, they can call a friend and put the phone next to their chair. PROBLEM SOLVED! Takes another handful
As for voice chat I definitely see his point but there should probably be an option at least though it would likely be a bit unfair considering that a team that is using voice chat would likely decimate a team just playing be sight. They probably want everyone to be on an equal playing field so matches stay competitive. In this age no one is going to like it but it really isn't up to us now is it?
After playing a couple matches my takeaway is that matches are so short and "arcadey" that it really wouldn't matter if it had voice chat. What they should do is make it available to friend lobbies.
And yeah it's really annoying with the small selection of stages. I can't play more than a couple matches a day because the stages repeat so often.
I think there should be an option for friends to chat. But none of my friends have the game so in the end, honestly, I'm glad I don't have to hear strangers being nasty on the Internet. I already get frustrated playing Smash online and there's no voice chat in that one (thank god). I don't trust the young audience that plays Nintendo games competitively to be mature online. But Nintendo should still give people options.
@ThumperUK I read it as "sworn at by 12-year-old Americans (and others)."
So, uh... runs away
someone ask him why they won't nerf the aerospray
Some of you voice chat haters miss the point completely.
Some of us just want to know why we can't have voice chat in private matches with friends? There is nothing any of you can say that would logically explain why it's justified to 'not' have that feature in the upcoming August update.
So quit tarring us all with the same brush, when some of us have a perfectly reasonable axe to grind.
@Kaze_Memaryu You can train on the current maps in the lobby under Recon. I would only want voice chat with Friends. But I understand that the mute option would work just as well.
I have no issues with the game itself having no voice chat but Nintendo should be adding party chat to the Wii U in general so you can communicate to your friends in a closed environment if you want.
In my experience voice chat is usually just a bunch of people insulting each other. The game is not missing anything. Play it and you will see you don't need it. If it is later introduced down the line then that's cool but not having voice chat is no where close to a game breaker.
I think friend matchmaking would be a great place to implement voice chat. But to be frankly honest, I play a lot of Call of Duty, and I never hear any bad mouthing, trash talking, or screaming kids. Yes, I checked, I don't have it muted. It's just not that common, just a stereotype brought on by YouTube videos of the like.
Lack of VC is not a major issue for me. If anything, I'm only down about not being able to change loadouts between matches. Other than that, I'm good with the game.
@AceTrainerBean Jesus Christ, have you ever played a multiplayer game in your life? Anyone assuming Voice Chat is just people insulting each other is a casual who has never experienced online multiplayer with actual voice chat. That's just a stereotype, nothing more, nothing less.
@EngieBengie Public voice chat is a big no-no for this E rated family-friendly game. Even if it was an option, a kid left alone with the game could still turn it on. Then, Private voice chat between friends would put everyone else playing at a disadvantage.
@Yorumi (post 139). Yes it would ruin the game.
@Yorumi @Ryno and @ everyone else that's blasting Nintendo and Nintendo fans over the voice chat issue.
Guess what, Splatoon isn't the only game that does not have voice chat due to a toxic community. League of Legends, one of the most popular MOBAs in the world which has a large eSports scene, does not have voice chat for the same reason. So it seems Nintendo fans aren't the only ones who are okay with not having standard features.
No, this doesn't change anything for Nintendo, but it calls into question why the devs behind LoL aren't getting this same criticism considering they excluded voice chat for the exact same reason. Not to mention the fact that LoL is a MOBA, which is far more team-based than a shooter, and thus the offense for excluding a standard feature is worse than it is for Nintendo with Splatoon, yet they aren't getting blasted.
@EngieBengie Oh great overlord of the internet please forgive me for posting my opinion in the comment section of a website in a respectful and reasonable way.
This is still ridiculous. Instead of removing voice chat, they could have given players the option to USE it or DISABLE it. Simply taking it away is not nice. I'm glad this game is very good even when voice chat is absent. Still, wish it was available.
Voice chat in a multiplayer game is a must. Dayum, I miss my voice chat in monster hunter.
There were some moments when I was playing that I wish I could better communicate with my teammates, and I do think we should have voice chat as an option, but by no means is this a game breaker for me.
@IceClimbers You cannot seriously lumped any PC game in here because they technically all have voice chat since you can use skype, teamspeak, ventrilo, mumble, whatever. The reason why LoL doesn't have voice chat is because PC games do not really need to have voice chat built in them due to you being able to run a chat program in the background without needing a 3rd party device to talk to friends. Plus, LoL is more of a game that encourages you to play with your friends if not at least one. Splatoon on the other hand (or any other Nintendo game) you need to inconvenience yourself just so you can chat with your friends which is really the biggest issue and the lack of voice chat makes playing with friends... nothing different than playing with the random number generated you scored. You can't even take your friend or family member in a local setting and play online with them so really... it makes no difference at all and it would feel as if you were not playing with them.
To be honest, I am growing tired of everyone telling me to use skype, phone (which I don't own, just a lan line) or whatever when playing my Wii U because the thing is, I shouldn't need to do that. We live in a world where friends are not just local people any more. People get to know others in other locations and people travel a lot more than they did 20-30 years ago or so and friends move to different provinces/states, countries and continents. So, every system basically out there has accommodated for this is allowing us to at least be able to talk to our friends.... everyone... except Nintendo. This is what baffles me and I tend to wonder if it is more because you have hardcore apologists just right out there ready to jump in the moment someone says they want something Nintendo doesn't provide, even if that service is standard everywhere else. If any of the other companies removed it, they'd be seen as the bad guy for removing something that is such a standard now but when Nintendo does it or flat out refuses to include it, they are excluded from these "laws" and really, it doesn't bode well for future policies nor does it help with improvements as they will either stay the same or evolve much slower than everyone else... which makes sense because Nintendo seems to be the one often lagging behind and really, if they continue the way they are, they will be a thing of the past, at least for video games.
Really, overall, voice chat doesn't need to be there to help you out or help you win. It doesn't even need to physically be added to everygame. If they would just release something that would more run in the background and you can chat with people on your friends list, that would be just great because really, 90% of people who do voice chatting in games, is with friends and friends only. This is a concept that everyone here against it is missing, they just think of the random kid crying and raging over the mic when the majority of gaming, people chat only with friends. But with chat, It is there to have fun and chat with your friends while playing. You don't have to play seriously, you don't have to always talk about the game while playing and you can have a blast.* When ever I am PC gaming and on Ventrilo with my friends, we rarely ever talk about the games we are playing. Well.. we do and we don't but we have a lot of fun and overall, it makes playing the game more enjoyable. But this is something that Nintendo has dropped the ball on and each and every time they do stuff like this, I get more and more annoyed (especially with this generation) and eventually, I can see myself moving on, I've grown up, I really wish Nintendo would also. If I cannot really play with my friends... or at least have it seem like it, then what is the point in even staying? Sure, it may still be fun... for a bit but with multiplayer games, playing them in silence can be ok, playing them with a friend(s) is great. People can disagree with me all they want but there is a reason why Nintendo is going down the hole and will probably be out of the console market in the next 15-20 years (if even that long, giving them the benefit of the doubt). I am not saying that voice chat is the real or the main reason but it sure isn't help to improve or even slow it down.
If people knew voice chat was not in the game before buying it, why did they buy it and then complain about the lack of voice chat?
Not really bothered by the lack of voice chat since in every game I've played that used it, it never offered much real use and was just a way to engage in pointless small-talk. There's also the usual screaming, arguing,profanity, etc..
However as others have pointed out it really would not make any difference one way or another. Having played the game with a few friends over Skype, I can confirm it does NOT help you win at all. Splatoon is too fast paced, too much is going on. A planned strategy quickly falls apart and becomes a desperate struggle near the last 30 seconds. The game isn't really designed for that sort of coordinated gameplay. It's too chaotic.
There's also the fact we knew well ahead of time the game won't have voice chat. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Being standard or not isn't relevant because Splatoon is not a standard shooter.
I would think people would complain more about the random match-making feature. It's nearly impossible to play with a friend or two online because they randomly mix and match everyone up. There's also a deplorable lack of options for online play. Why are people complaining about something that doesn't matter (and wouldnt work anyway due to what I said above) when these two flaws are much more serious? So if I have a friend and want to play online, I can't? I'll get mixed and matched randomly between teams? Why did Mario Kart 8 roll out with more online features than Splatoon? These are the questions people should be asking, rather than babble on endlessly about a feature that doesn't add or remove very much from the overall gameplay. There are much more serious flaws with the online component than not being able to hear 8 year olds screaming the F word at each other (and by F word I mean more than just the first one that comes to mind.)
@MegaMari0 there kinda is already. With the use of the D'Pad. You can either say "C'mon!" or "Booyah!" Saying "C'mon!" let's your other teammates know you need help.
@ikki5 You still need a 3rd party program to run voice chat. It may be less of an inconvenience than with Splatoon, but that's not the actual issue that people seem to have.
The issue is that voice chat is a standard feature and not including it in 2015 is laughable. LoL and Splatoon are two of these games, and both developers should be criticized heavily, yet only one is being criticized.
My point is, if people are gonna criticize one company, then they need to do it for the others.
@IceClimbers A program vs a system, there is a massive difference there. There is not a voice chat issue with League of legends because on the PC, it is not needed as you don't need a separate system to use it. With Splatoon, you do and not everyone has access, or easy access to a separate system. Splatoon, it is impossible to do voice chat without have a 3rd party device hooked up. PC games it is not. That is the difference, that is why they can get away with it and they don't need to be criticized because one, it is impossible, the other, it is not and general chat systems are available for you. Really, a 3rd party program can be seen as less of an inconvenience due to the fact that you can easily switch games you're playing and not have to anything or even still chat without having the game open after you finish playing but still want to talk about it. This is why I said having something in the background running where you could talk to friends on your friends list while playing as it would do the same function and keep almost everyone happy as there would still be some who want to talk to randoms.
Plus, as I said before:
"90% of people who do voice chatting in games, is with friends and friends only. "
Meaning that the majority of people who want and use it, would be using those programs in the background and there is no issue. However, I will add acquaintance to that as in League, often times you'll get rank teams, people join a chat program while they wait the minute and a half or so for the game to start and even still, it is usually friends you're playing with or friends you have made.
If there was voice chat, then I hope there would be regional servers for language reasons. Yes, most people learn a bit of English in different countries but why should they be obligated to use English for my sake?
I would probably use voice chat if it existed but I am alright without it.. Have to think about how it won't be "only me" talking and I can only imagine how much yelling over each other there'd be in 3-4 minute matches.... On the other hand, I seriously saw my teammate waltz right into a mine because they didn't have Bomb Sniffer in their gear abilities and I think about if only I could have warned them! lol
At the very least, I wish there were more commands than saying "c'mon" and "booyah" or you could choose from a list and it would make up for the lack of communication.
Got to mid-50s is the comments, so to that all, I'll say I agree voice chat should exist for Friends, and I wouldn't mind it just being in the lobby, as with Mario Kart 8. You can confirm each other's weapons and assign roles beforehand, then the fast-paced, minutes-long match goes on silent auto-pilot. Knowing what to expect outta your teammates may be all you need, going in, compared to strangers just going out on their own, like in my "experience" (and practice). EDIT: Combine that with the scripted shouts (someone mentioned MH4U), and you can resolve a situation quickly without a bunch of jumbled, mingling blithering.
As for Splatoon features? Liked the suggestion for pre-set loadouts in the lobby to choose from, this from someone who just Rollers with things.
@BakaKnight @SuperNintendo87 Can't believe I never noticed the "Recon" option! Damn, now I feel stupid! But thanks for the heads up!
I think the main thing to consider is whether there's voice chat or not, the main point still stands in which teamwork just doesn't happen. Every game mode in every shooter becomes dumbed down to just a Team Deathmatch/Slayer game type.
alot of people are using skype since there are no in-game-voicechat... and that gives an unfair advantage... so an ingame chat would be much more fair
How is the lack of something a good thing.
If you don't like it turn it off.
For children parents should have parental control on. Make the parent go trough a series of warning pages or disclaimers explaining the risks of voice chat before they can enter te parental key and turn it on.
I would like voice chat for friends, just to shoot the **** and not for strategy though. In MH3 when I was playing with my nephew or other friends not even half of the chat was about the game.
While I do think it would be cool to allow voice chat among friends with an on/off switch along with other things to make it family safe, I respect the developers decision on it. Obviously they have their reasons as to why they didn't, but I'm not going to say I know more than them and tell them they made their game wrong. It was their game and their decision.
This was on the news about how people are complaining about certain kinds of language in videogames.
Nintendo knows this already and does not want voice to be enabled. It is like how when we were youngs and parents would prevent us from saying certain words.
@AceTrainerBean Thou shalt be forgiven Kappa
It's not just language, but the people trying to run the show and tell others what to do. This is a game with fairly short rounds, so I honestly can't see the benefit and I'm sure the game's performance is better for leaving it out as well. People will eventually get the strategy and do what needs doing from looking at the map or their team will suffer - don't need chat for that.
Chatting with people (friends) in the lobby would be nice, I agree; especially if you want to go on to choose complimentary loadout and I wouldn't put it past them to include it in a future release.
The xbox 360 has it and I was never pleased with it. Every time I went online someone had the urge to talk to me. I was like i'm here to game. Just go on. I had to point out each time with messages that I don't have a headset. It's not a mis for me. So yay Nintendo
Add Squid Girl.
@lilith EVERY company tries to tell you what you should want. Not just Nintendo.
Here's a thought... How about Nintendo let parents be parents and give them the option to disable voice chat on the Wii U totally if they want to. I have a young son.. I would totally disable online chat if he wanted to play this game... Me on the other hand, I have a brother who lives an hour away.. We would love to play this game together, but haven't purchased it because we also like to chat while we play games. Really annoying Nintendo tries to play the parent instead of giving people the option. Definitely turned me off to purchasing this game and reaffirms my belief that Nintendo is a complete failure at online experiences... Their games are still great, but their online experiences are horrible.
@chess227 You let an easily remedied issue stop you from buying a game? Stop being silly. You have other ways to chat with your brother like Skype. As you can see from reading the article, the game's developers took the issue of voice chat very seriously, and made the decision to exclude it altogether. Why? Not because they're trying to be the parent, but because a lot of parents (not ALL but a LOT) are lazy. They think they can put a game in a child's hands and be done with it. But the moment something they don't like happens, it's bye bye Wii U. And you can argue about having the option to disable voice chat, but kids are SMART. They can find a way to restore it. They always find a way. Nintendo is saving themselves the hassle of a lot of backlash by leaving out voice chat, and to say they are a "complete failure" because it doesn't cater to a supposed staple aspect in its game when it can be easily rectified with a laptop is plain silly. Buy the game, load it in your Wii U, and call your brother on your cell phone. Done.
@lilith I don't see what winning has to do with this. And don't assume my mind was thinking "this person is a total idiot for saying that." You know what happens when you assume.
@lilith It's all good.
I'd still prefer to have it as an option for playing with friends. Oh well, I have Skype.
@MegaMari0 there is and always has been the "To Me!" and "Nice" call outs from the D-Pad
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I do feal it needs a "Push on!" and "Protect the Bace!" like comands too ... oh and a Auto booting system for AFKers.. iv lost sevral matches from ppl not moveing atall or taking 2 steps then doing nothing Or splat ink out the bace and make sure thay dont get splated by never leaving...
@BLPs Speaking of which, where is that exclusive interview? It's been two days.
I love that they did not include voice chat. I hope more games do the same in the future.
Kids and games. I don't really discourage my son to play games but I am so glad that he just is not into it. His screentime consists mostly of his classes at http://preply.com/en/english-by-skype where all he does is learn English through Skype. He does have his games but he rarely uses them. I'm a happy mom.
Why wouldn't Nintendo make voice chat an OPTION? It ruins the cooperative experience. At least add it for ranked modes where kids dont play.
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