@Crono1973 I guess my question is why avoid it? If you have access to internet and aren't subject to caps what is the reason for not wanting to download the remainder of a game or patch a game. We are talking about two different things I think. I also generally think microtransactions, especially in full paid games, are annoying; especially if they affect gameplay.
What I don't understand is people complaining who aren't affected by it. Sure there will be some anecdotal cases where someone doesn't have steady access to the net or a strict data cap, but those cases are few and far between and I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining aren't actually affected. It's just something to complain about and chalk up to negative.
@Crono1973 Retro gaming has value of course, but they certainly weren't the golden days of gaming. Retro gaming had plenty of things wrong with it as well just like today.
@Crono1973 We already have those. I just don't see a point to complain about silly things that I can't affect. It isn't changing, this is gaming now. I can either accept that and enjoy games or stop gaming altogether. I don't spend money on microtransactions and so I vote with my wallet. If you want only games that are complete on a physical medium vote with your wallet.
@Crono1973 In this case it is the Multiplayer. The online multiplayer. That you need to be online to play. You can see where I'm going here.
People make a big deal out of a non issue. The days of plugging in a cart and having a go used product are over and almost all the people that complain have the online and the space for the download.
@Crono1973 My approval means nothing ultimately. This is just how gaming is now, even if the whole thing is on the cart there are updates and patches and fixes you can't get without online, which almost every single person here has. It is a mountain out of a mole hill situation.
@PorllM If I works like the other systems it analyzes your save and then unlocks based upon that so they could theoretically do it. I can't imagine them doing it though.
@MegaTen Ah I stand corrected! My apologies for assuming your age.
I don't think there is any more corruption now than there was. In fact things are far more transparent. It is and always has been about making money for the industry.
@MegaTen I'm 35, so I've been playing games likely longer then you've been alive.
I just also remember unfinished broken games released buggy and unfinished that were just the finished product and if you bought it that was just how the game was as you couldn't patch it. I remember pins failing in cartridges that deleted your saves, expansions nearly the cost of a full game that don't give you anymore add ons than something like the MK8 DLC for two or three times the cost. I remember games costing $90 for the standard edition or on the NES games being made purposefully obtuse so you needed a strategy guide or to make you call a help line.
@CroRock I understand that, but they are really cheap. I mean, it isn't any different than having to buy a bigger hard drive when the PS4 fills up instantly.
I've bought all my games physical where I can also to conserve space on my SD, so I get, but this isn't as big a deal as people are making it out to be.
@MegaTen What nonsense? If you are longing for the days when everything came on one cartridge and there are no other downloads I'm not sure what to tell you. Buy a SNES and enjoy what you probably thought were the glory days.
This is the new reality of gaming. My point is the people that are complaining likely aren't affected at all. I have a 128GB card that hasn't been used AT ALL other that a few paltry downloads. Just like when my PS4 gets full eventually I'll delete portions of downloads and download them at a later date if so inclined. This doesn't really affect anything.
@FX102A Actually the reality is this content and any tweaks just wouldn't have gone on the game at all and we would have never known.
Everybody longs for the good old days not remembering games would come out broken and just be broken for good. They couldn't evaluate things and fix small issues or correct content at launch or after.
I can't fathom why people complain about day one patches that are free, especially since if you are on these forums you almost 100% have the internet needed to update.
I loved Miiverse, though I used it more as a gaming history for my 3DS and Wii U. I'm very pleased they are letting you Dow load that history instead of wiping it out.
The only thing that irritates me is it isn't included with the collectors edition. If I'm buying the ultimate version of something it should include everything.
People get all hopped up on nostalgia, but it is the Golden Age of Gaming; just maybe for a different reason than what you've listed.
When I was younger and playing replaying masterpieces like Chrono Trigger on the SNES there is no doubt those were good times. However the sheer variety of games makes today's gaming landscape so much more exciting. Back in the day if you wanted a story you were pretty much relegated to JRPGs, especially on consoles. Now even action games are given phenomenal stories and acted by some fantastic voice actors.
Do you dig rhythm games? How about dungeon crawling rhythm games? How about randomly generated seed rolling simulator? Dad dating? Lord of the Rings? Just want to have a walk about a house and dig through people's stuff? Today's gaming landscape has you covered. There is something for literally everyone and loads of it.
Not to mention there are so many quality games released every month I can't even keep up and with flash sales, steam sales, and free Gold and PS Plus games if I wasn't constantly trying to keep up I could game the whole year through for pretty cheap.
Just look at this year so far and the amount of amazing games released. Yep it's a good time to be a gamer.
@DragonbornRito I was going to say, certainly not bashing. I'm just saying while I was playing I saw nothing impacting gameplay like the frame rate drops mentioned. I only played the first chapter with him though.
I played this on my brothers Switch this weekend, and I've beat the entirety of the game on the PS4, and saw absolutely no issues. What point in the game are these supposed to occur?
Context doesn't really matter much here, that was an incredibly insensitive and stupid thing to say. I don't care if you agree or disagree with everything else he says, that part was at best horrible choice of words and at worst downright insulting to the dead.
I want to be excited and I want this badly, but I'm irritated in advance because I know Nintendo will be draconian with stock again meaning scalpers will make this $200 or better.
I don't get all the hate. First of all Nintendo did an entire direct for Indies recently. They frequently have events like Nindie at Night and are certainly supporting Indies as well as either of the other big 2.
Secondly Metroid is their IP, they really don't need another reason. This was something that could pass as a Nintendo game and could directly affect their bottom line when it shouldn't have to compete at all. The individual made it for attention and got it. He could have made his own game, probably would have been published, and we would all support it. He chose not to instead using an existing popular IP to get attention.
E3 will continue to get less exciting for a number of reasons. A big one is the fact that it simply isn't as important now. Every developer and publisher can get their info to consumers at just about any time. Imagine every direct since last E3, Twitter update, and YouTube trailer came out at once at E3. Things don't work that way anymore and as dev cycles get longer there will be less chances to show big surprises that aren't so far out as to be irrelevant.
I was going to buy it anyway, but after the Testpunch I'm extremely excited for it. You wouldn't believe how quickly my kids bought in also, my youngest has been running around the house pretending to be Ribbon Girl and drawing pictures after she watched the first two sessions.
I feel like the complaints are sort of invalid. This is a third the price of the competitors and while Nintendo is bad at online, that is what you would be paying for. The free games and deals are just the extra wiggle on the worm they are already fishing with.
If this is true it better be priced like Super Mario Run. It may not have made them tons of money, but it retained some integrity for the franchise. Pay to win garbage is a dime a dozen on the store, I really don't want a Zelda like that.
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Re: Retail Version of DOOM on Switch Will Need a Download for Online Multiplayer
@Crono1973 I guess my question is why avoid it? If you have access to internet and aren't subject to caps what is the reason for not wanting to download the remainder of a game or patch a game. We are talking about two different things I think. I also generally think microtransactions, especially in full paid games, are annoying; especially if they affect gameplay.
What I don't understand is people complaining who aren't affected by it. Sure there will be some anecdotal cases where someone doesn't have steady access to the net or a strict data cap, but those cases are few and far between and I'm willing to bet 90% of the people complaining aren't actually affected. It's just something to complain about and chalk up to negative.
Re: Retail Version of DOOM on Switch Will Need a Download for Online Multiplayer
@Crono1973 Retro gaming has value of course, but they certainly weren't the golden days of gaming. Retro gaming had plenty of things wrong with it as well just like today.
I respect your opinion though.
Re: Retail Version of DOOM on Switch Will Need a Download for Online Multiplayer
@Crono1973 We already have those. I just don't see a point to complain about silly things that I can't affect. It isn't changing, this is gaming now. I can either accept that and enjoy games or stop gaming altogether. I don't spend money on microtransactions and so I vote with my wallet. If you want only games that are complete on a physical medium vote with your wallet.
Re: Retail Version of DOOM on Switch Will Need a Download for Online Multiplayer
@Crono1973 In this case it is the Multiplayer. The online multiplayer. That you need to be online to play. You can see where I'm going here.
People make a big deal out of a non issue. The days of plugging in a cart and having a go used product are over and almost all the people that complain have the online and the space for the download.
Re: Retail Version of DOOM on Switch Will Need a Download for Online Multiplayer
@Crono1973 My approval means nothing ultimately. This is just how gaming is now, even if the whole thing is on the cart there are updates and patches and fixes you can't get without online, which almost every single person here has. It is a mountain out of a mole hill situation.
Re: Retail Version of DOOM on Switch Will Need a Download for Online Multiplayer
Cue the complaints. Personally I dont see it being a big deal.
Re: Nintendo Is Resurrecting The NES Classic Mini And Increasing SNES Classic Inventory
Nintendo...listened? (grabs end times sign)
Re: Lichtspeer Developer Suggests That Nintendo Has Switch Achievements in the Works
@PorllM Right, it would be limited to what the game already tracks.
Re: Lichtspeer Developer Suggests That Nintendo Has Switch Achievements in the Works
@PorllM If I works like the other systems it analyzes your save and then unlocks based upon that so they could theoretically do it. I can't imagine them doing it though.
Re: Lichtspeer Developer Suggests That Nintendo Has Switch Achievements in the Works
Achievements would be a cool add, I can't understand people against them as they take nothing away from a gaming system, only add.
This however, isn't true I'd bet. Ive seen the name of these people's game everywhere in the last couple days because of this "accidental slip".
Re: Don't Pay Over The Odds For A SNES Classic Mini, Urges Reggie Fils-Aime
How sweet would it be if the scalpers buy up a ton of these and then they are abundant in store and they have to eat the loss?
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
@MegaTen Ah I stand corrected! My apologies for assuming your age.
I don't think there is any more corruption now than there was. In fact things are far more transparent. It is and always has been about making money for the industry.
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
@MegaTen I'm 35, so I've been playing games likely longer then you've been alive.
I just also remember unfinished broken games released buggy and unfinished that were just the finished product and if you bought it that was just how the game was as you couldn't patch it. I remember pins failing in cartridges that deleted your saves, expansions nearly the cost of a full game that don't give you anymore add ons than something like the MK8 DLC for two or three times the cost. I remember games costing $90 for the standard edition or on the NES games being made purposefully obtuse so you needed a strategy guide or to make you call a help line.
Games weren't perfect then and they aren't today.
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
@MarcelRguez Ah I did miss that, thank you.
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
@CroRock I understand that, but they are really cheap. I mean, it isn't any different than having to buy a bigger hard drive when the PS4 fills up instantly.
I've bought all my games physical where I can also to conserve space on my SD, so I get, but this isn't as big a deal as people are making it out to be.
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
@MegaTen What nonsense? If you are longing for the days when everything came on one cartridge and there are no other downloads I'm not sure what to tell you. Buy a SNES and enjoy what you probably thought were the glory days.
This is the new reality of gaming. My point is the people that are complaining likely aren't affected at all. I have a 128GB card that hasn't been used AT ALL other that a few paltry downloads. Just like when my PS4 gets full eventually I'll delete portions of downloads and download them at a later date if so inclined. This doesn't really affect anything.
Re: Some Retail Nintendo Switch Games Will Require You To Own A MicroSD Card
People are overreacting. This is not that big of a deal. In fact I'd bet that almost everyone here complaining already has a SD card in their Switch.
People just love to be outraged by something.
Re: Here’s What the Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle Day One Update Does
@FX102A Actually the reality is this content and any tweaks just wouldn't have gone on the game at all and we would have never known.
Everybody longs for the good old days not remembering games would come out broken and just be broken for good. They couldn't evaluate things and fix small issues or correct content at launch or after.
I can't fathom why people complain about day one patches that are free, especially since if you are on these forums you almost 100% have the internet needed to update.
Re: Random: Ubisoft Shares a Quirky Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle Unboxing Video
That was pretty great.
Re: The Plug Will Finally Be Pulled On Miiverse In November
I loved Miiverse, though I used it more as a gaming history for my 3DS and Wii U. I'm very pleased they are letting you Dow load that history instead of wiping it out.
Re: Feature: A Long Journey Through Metroid Prime: Federation Force
How timely. I just picked this up and am having a blast with it. It maybe Metroid only in name, but it is also a fun coop game.
Re: Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle Is Getting a Season Pass
The only thing that irritates me is it isn't included with the collectors edition. If I'm buying the ultimate version of something it should include everything.
Re: Soapbox: The SNES Classic Edition Pre-Order Farce Proves Nintendo Hasn't Learned A Thing
I basically was punished yesterday by going to sleep at a decent hour and having a job. Jumping through these hoops for Nintendo is getting real old.
Re: Video: Let's Have a Look at the SNES Classic Edition's Menus & Save State Features
I'm extremely upset by this whole thing.
Re: Guide: Where to Pre-Order Your Super NES Classic Edition
I think I'm pretty much done with Nintendo.
Re: SNES Classic Edition Has A Rewind Feature To Make Up For Your Ageing Reflexes
Awesome. Went to bed and woke up to the fact I'll not be getting a SNES Classic.
Re: Editorial: Is This a Golden Era of Gaming? Absolutely
People get all hopped up on nostalgia, but it is the Golden Age of Gaming; just maybe for a different reason than what you've listed.
When I was younger and playing replaying masterpieces like Chrono Trigger on the SNES there is no doubt those were good times. However the sheer variety of games makes today's gaming landscape so much more exciting. Back in the day if you wanted a story you were pretty much relegated to JRPGs, especially on consoles. Now even action games are given phenomenal stories and acted by some fantastic voice actors.
Do you dig rhythm games? How about dungeon crawling rhythm games? How about randomly generated seed rolling simulator? Dad dating? Lord of the Rings? Just want to have a walk about a house and dig through people's stuff? Today's gaming landscape has you covered. There is something for literally everyone and loads of it.
Not to mention there are so many quality games released every month I can't even keep up and with flash sales, steam sales, and free Gold and PS Plus games if I wasn't constantly trying to keep up I could game the whole year through for pretty cheap.
Just look at this year so far and the amount of amazing games released. Yep it's a good time to be a gamer.
Re: The Overcooked: Special Edition Performance Patch Is Nearing Release
@DragonbornRito I was going to say, certainly not bashing. I'm just saying while I was playing I saw nothing impacting gameplay like the frame rate drops mentioned. I only played the first chapter with him though.
Re: The Overcooked: Special Edition Performance Patch Is Nearing Release
I played this on my brothers Switch this weekend, and I've beat the entirety of the game on the PS4, and saw absolutely no issues. What point in the game are these supposed to occur?
Re: Review: Flip Wars (Switch eShop)
@retro_player_22 It drove me crazy Ever Oasis didn't seem to get a lot of people talking because the game is amazing.
Re: Oddworld Creator Lorne Lanning "Has No Faith" In Switch
Context doesn't really matter much here, that was an incredibly insensitive and stupid thing to say. I don't care if you agree or disagree with everything else he says, that part was at best horrible choice of words and at worst downright insulting to the dead.
Re: Random: Internet Reacts Badly To The New Snake Pass Menu Icon
@Ryu_Niiyama Agreed. Feel like I've gone through the looking glass here.
Re: You Still Can't Pre-Order The Super NES Classic In The US, And This Could Be Why
I don't think they will go up for preorder, the Mini NES never did.
Re: Poll: Are You Excited About the Super NES Classic Edition?
R.I.P Virtual Console.
Re: Nintendo Announces Super NES Classic Edition
@Lewieboy124 The first never even went up for preorder, at least in the US.
Re: Nintendo Announces Super NES Classic Edition
I want to be excited and I want this badly, but I'm irritated in advance because I know Nintendo will be draconian with stock again meaning scalpers will make this $200 or better.
Re: Nintendo Announces Super NES Classic Edition
Can't wait to not be able to buy this.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aimé Defends Nintendo's Indie Support and AM2R Policy
I don't get all the hate. First of all Nintendo did an entire direct for Indies recently. They frequently have events like Nindie at Night and are certainly supporting Indies as well as either of the other big 2.
Secondly Metroid is their IP, they really don't need another reason. This was something that could pass as a Nintendo game and could directly affect their bottom line when it shouldn't have to compete at all. The individual made it for attention and got it. He could have made his own game, probably would have been published, and we would all support it. He chose not to instead using an existing popular IP to get attention.
Re: The Metroid: Samus Returns Legacy Edition Looks Fabulous
Man I want this. Oh well, live in NA.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo Went Its Own Way at E3 2017, and It Mostly Worked
E3 will continue to get less exciting for a number of reasons. A big one is the fact that it simply isn't as important now. Every developer and publisher can get their info to consumers at just about any time. Imagine every direct since last E3, Twitter update, and YouTube trailer came out at once at E3. Things don't work that way anymore and as dev cycles get longer there will be less chances to show big surprises that aren't so far out as to be irrelevant.
Re: First Impressions: A New Style of Tactical Gaming in Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
@memoryman3 That's a weird line to draw in the sand, but more power to you I guess?
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Ubisoft's Nintendo Switch Reveals at E3 2017?
Can't believe I'm saying this: that Rabbids game looked good.
Re: Oceanhorn Anchors In The Sheltered Harbour Of The Switch eShop This Month
I got almost all chievos on Xbox and really enjoyed it.
Re: Poll: Did the ARMS Global Testpunch Land a Knockout Blow?
I was going to buy it anyway, but after the Testpunch I'm extremely excited for it. You wouldn't believe how quickly my kids bought in also, my youngest has been running around the house pretending to be Ribbon Girl and drawing pictures after she watched the first two sessions.
Re: Rumour: Image Of Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle amiibo Surfaces Online
These are certainly fake. I don't get all the hate though, look like same art style from the game and not any cheaper than other amiibo.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Switch Online Service Promises a New Approach to Retro Gaming
I feel like the complaints are sort of invalid. This is a third the price of the competitors and while Nintendo is bad at online, that is what you would be paying for. The free games and deals are just the extra wiggle on the worm they are already fishing with.
Re: Poll: Who Is Your Favourite ARMS Fighter?
@Anti-Matter One can dream.
Re: Poll: Who Is Your Favourite ARMS Fighter?
I'm extremely impressed all around honestly. These and are some of the strongest designs we've seen from Nintendo aside from Splatoon.
Amiibo or riot.
Re: Sonic Forces Will Let You Create Your Own Playable Character
Oh man. Deviantart is going to lose it.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Working On A Smartphone Legend Of Zelda Game
If this is true it better be priced like Super Mario Run. It may not have made them tons of money, but it retained some integrity for the franchise. Pay to win garbage is a dime a dozen on the store, I really don't want a Zelda like that.