All the Pikmin games sales have been lukewarm. The fact Nintendo didn't give up before now shows their commitment to it. Wouldn't blame them for letting it go now.
@Creature Fair point, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it would have made to Metroid's standing in the list as aside from Metroid Prime Pinball, I can't think of any Metroid themed spinoffs.
I sound like I'm having a downer on the series, which isn't my intention. It's just a perspective thing. When the latest Animal Crossing game outsells the entire series, for example...
In short, I hope Prime 4 does well enough that they do more Metroid games. But I can see why we don't get new games often.
@Doktor-Mandrake Facts, but at the end of the day, those franchises are dormant because they didn't sell enough, not because we as individuals thought that way. It's the companies that own the IPs. Sad
@MarsOne Hey man, Metroid Prime is one of my all time fave games so I'm not faulting the quality. But from Nintendo's POV, they've got to be looking at how much effort they're putting in to a series that ultimately only appeals to hardcore fans and won't do the big numbers. Returns on investments.
No idea why Metroid is even considered a big deal these days. It's their 15th best selling franchise, between Wario and Luigi's Mansion.
The best selling Metroid game doesn't break their Top 50 best sellers list.
@Drac_Mazoku I tried to compare Colour Splash and Origami King to Thousand Year Door, but they're such different games really I found it wasn't worth it. I like them all in their own way.
I just wish people could appreciate Origami King for what it is, not what it isn't.
And considering they couldn't create a lot of new characters, there was a lot of creativity in this game. Anyone who actually played the game could see that.
I doubt it matters that it's ex-rare staff these days. It's been 18 years. The fanbase that likes Rare games aren't exclusive to Nintendo consoles anymore.
Nintendo and Sega both refusing to admit how disruptive the pandemic has been. It's not just game announcements, but I reckon the games themselves are behind schedule. And they won't say because it will upset their investors.
I enjoyed Origami King. Very good game. I enjoyed Thousand Year Door. Very good game.
I had a think about which I preferred, but I stopped, because they're very different and aren't comparable. It's like comparing Tetris with Super Mario Land.
TTYD probably deserves to be top, but when it was first released it was called "Thousand Year Bore" by some for a reason.
It's a long, tough slog in some places with a difficult final quarter and lengthy cut scenes that you can't skip even if you've already seen them. So if you're playing for the first time, that's one "quality of life " feature you better be prepared to be without.
Other then that, it's a great game. I enjoyed SPM, Paper Jam and Colour Splash too, so would reccomend those.
@Fath Hmm. Not my take on it. I have no problem with sexuality in games. But I do hold NL to a higher standard and this article just came across as... tasteless? I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it. It's just a game at the end of the day.
@TG16_IS_BAE Whoooo? googles Ah. An american political commentator. That's why I've never heard of him. LOL indeed!
Maybe people's reactions (myself included) to games like this isn't about some bigger narrative. Maybe it's simply about NintendoLife putting time and effort into better games then this (regardless of boobs/violence/bloodshed or whatever)? Honestly, NL do a great job of reporting on Nintendo stuff that other sites do not. That's why I come here. And why I hold them to a better standard.
@TG16_IS_BAE Now i'm not saying one game about boobs is going to turn someone into a sexual deviant. Indeed, you're not wrong about that! My point was, if we're trying to support victims at a time like this, promoting this garbage shovel-ware seems counter-productive.
And telling people to grow up? Really? That's not how to win a debate. You're better then that too.
See, it's videos like this that are the reason fans are always miserable.
And another thing, a Nintendo Direct full of nothing but Ports and Remasters would be extremely disappointing to me. We run the risk of becoming obsessed with them and not getting any new titles.
Are we all going to be moaning about Mario Odyssey not being ported to the "Switch 2" in 4-5 years time? Probably by the looks of things.
I don't think we should be celebrating this. It's bad news that Nintendo failed in a market with such a huge potential player base.
It's also curious that they would choose to do less on mobile, when if they put more effort in they might end up creating something with the kind of success of Pokemon Go.
Odd decision. They should continue investing. There's no guarantee their next console will be as big a hit as the Switch. History proves that. They're putting all their eggs in one basket.
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Re: Sega Reveals Never-Before-Seen Concept Art For The Sonic Adventure Games And Sonic Heroes
These are great!
Re: NPD: Switch Sold More Units In Q3 2020 Than Any Platform Since The DS In Q3 2009 (US)
@Lordplops Table is winning the console wars. My household has several!
Re: XIII Remake's Launch On PS4 Doesn't Give Us Much Hope For The Switch Release
Nevermind the graphics, that AI and animation is shocking. Was it that bad in the Cube version too?
Re: Poll: Which Will Be Your Second Console - PS5 Or Xbox Series X?
Sticking with Switch and PS4 for now. Not sure yet if PS5 or Series X will be next.
The 8% of people who said all three have too much money!
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
All the Pikmin games sales have been lukewarm. The fact Nintendo didn't give up before now shows their commitment to it. Wouldn't blame them for letting it go now.
Re: Retro Studios Seeking Three Product Testers And A Storyboard Artist
@Creature Fair point, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it would have made to Metroid's standing in the list as aside from Metroid Prime Pinball, I can't think of any Metroid themed spinoffs.
I sound like I'm having a downer on the series, which isn't my intention. It's just a perspective thing. When the latest Animal Crossing game outsells the entire series, for example...
In short, I hope Prime 4 does well enough that they do more Metroid games. But I can see why we don't get new games often.
Re: Retro Studios Seeking Three Product Testers And A Storyboard Artist
@Doktor-Mandrake Facts, but at the end of the day, those franchises are dormant because they didn't sell enough, not because we as individuals thought that way. It's the companies that own the IPs. Sad
Re: Retro Studios Seeking Three Product Testers And A Storyboard Artist
@MarsOne Hey man, Metroid Prime is one of my all time fave games so I'm not faulting the quality. But from Nintendo's POV, they've got to be looking at how much effort they're putting in to a series that ultimately only appeals to hardcore fans and won't do the big numbers. Returns on investments.
Re: Retro Studios Seeking Three Product Testers And A Storyboard Artist
No idea why Metroid is even considered a big deal these days. It's their 15th best selling franchise, between Wario and Luigi's Mansion.
The best selling Metroid game doesn't break their Top 50 best sellers list.
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Best_selling_Nintendo_games
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel #63 - Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Not a difficult one this week. NA/Europe all the way.
Re: It Looks Like Hackers Are Already Cheating In Super Mario Bros. 35
Losers. They're not impressing anyone.
Re: Minecraft's Steve Revealed As Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Next DLC Fighter
At this point, Steve is a video game icon. Smart move Nintendo. Parents around the world going "Oh, the Minecraft guy" right now.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Next DLC Fighter To Be Revealed Tomorrow, 1st October
Tetris block!
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield's The Crown Tundra DLC Launches Next Month, All Past Legendaries Appear
Good stuff! Will be interested to see if that's it or if we'll get a Part 3...
Re: Random: Switch Owners Are Discovering Just How Frustrating Super Mario Sunshine Can Be
Lots of older gamers discovering that nostalgia is blinding.
Lots of younger gamers discovering that games were less forgiving and/or optimised back in the day.
Both discovering that straight ports are rarely as good as the original.
Re: Fitness Boxing 2: Rhythm & Exercise Punches Its Way To Switch In December
My wife will be pleased but I have to agree this looks a bit too much like the first game to warrant spending full price on it again.
Re: Nintendo's Switch Online Service Now Has More Than 26 Million Subscribers
Online Play and the NES and SNES titles make it a good deal in my opinion.
Re: Retro Studios Hires Industry Veteran To Help Steer Metroid Prime 4 Development
Looking at the kind of games these people have made in the past, it's quite impressive.
They're also not very Metroid-y games. Prime 4 could be a very different game to what we're expecting, in tone if nothing else.
Re: Paper Mario Producer Says His Team Has "Almost Complete Control" Over Creative Direction
@Drac_Mazoku I tried to compare Colour Splash and Origami King to Thousand Year Door, but they're such different games really I found it wasn't worth it. I like them all in their own way.
I just wish people could appreciate Origami King for what it is, not what it isn't.
Re: Paper Mario Producer Says His Team Has "Almost Complete Control" Over Creative Direction
Just finished Origami King. It was a joy to play.
And considering they couldn't create a lot of new characters, there was a lot of creativity in this game. Anyone who actually played the game could see that.
Re: Jet Force Gemini Style Platform Shooter Tamarin Unlikely To Come To Switch Anytime Soon
I doubt it matters that it's ex-rare staff these days. It's been 18 years. The fanbase that likes Rare games aren't exclusive to Nintendo consoles anymore.
Re: Sega Still Working Out How To Share Sonic SXSW 2020 Announcements
Nintendo and Sega both refusing to admit how disruptive the pandemic has been. It's not just game announcements, but I reckon the games themselves are behind schedule. And they won't say because it will upset their investors.
Re: Paper Mario Producer Says He's "Not Opposed To The Fans' Opinions"
I enjoyed Origami King. Very good game.
I enjoyed Thousand Year Door. Very good game.
I had a think about which I preferred, but I stopped, because they're very different and aren't comparable. It's like comparing Tetris with Super Mario Land.
Re: How Well Do You Know Rare And Its Nintendo Games?
Cool quiz.
18 years since their last game for Nintendo.
Re: Listing For Prince Of Persia Remake On Nintendo Switch Appears Online
Which Prince of Persia? The 1989, 2003 or 2008 one? There's been rather a lot... https://www.grouvee.com/search/?q=Prince+of+Persia
Also, one random retailer in Guatemala? Is this really a credible source?
Re: Ring Fit Adventure Is Getting Its Own Direct In China Tomorrow
China?
There are 5 letters in China.
Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1 & 2, 3D World... that's 5 games!
Mario All Stars 2 confirmed!!!
Re: Feature: All The Paper Mario Games, Ranked By You
TTYD probably deserves to be top, but when it was first released it was called "Thousand Year Bore" by some for a reason.
It's a long, tough slog in some places with a difficult final quarter and lengthy cut scenes that you can't skip even if you've already seen them. So if you're playing for the first time, that's one "quality of life " feature you better be prepared to be without.
Other then that, it's a great game. I enjoyed SPM, Paper Jam and Colour Splash too, so would reccomend those.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel #55 - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
I love them both! One of my top 10 games of all time. What a gem.
Re: Video: Of Course You Want To Watch Paper Mario: The Origami King's Launch Trailer
Got mine! Will give it a go over the weekend
Re: Hasbro Celebrates Super Mario's 35th Anniversary With Monopoly And Jenga
An update to Monopoly for Nintendo Switch with a new Mario theme would be great. They already have several others.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
@GameOtaku I think you misunderstood.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
@TG16_IS_BAE Word. You have a good evening.
PS: I still have no idea who these people are. UK commenter right here! Haha.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
@Fath Hmm. Not my take on it. I have no problem with sexuality in games. But I do hold NL to a higher standard and this article just came across as... tasteless? I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it. It's just a game at the end of the day.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
@TG16_IS_BAE
Whoooo? googles Ah. An american political commentator. That's why I've never heard of him. LOL indeed!
Maybe people's reactions (myself included) to games like this isn't about some bigger narrative. Maybe it's simply about NintendoLife putting time and effort into better games then this (regardless of boobs/violence/bloodshed or whatever)? Honestly, NL do a great job of reporting on Nintendo stuff that other sites do not. That's why I come here. And why I hold them to a better standard.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
@TG16_IS_BAE
Now i'm not saying one game about boobs is going to turn someone into a sexual deviant. Indeed, you're not wrong about that!
My point was, if we're trying to support victims at a time like this, promoting this garbage shovel-ware seems counter-productive.
And telling people to grow up? Really? That's not how to win a debate. You're better then that too.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
@TG16_IS_BAE If you can't see how games like this may contribute to unhealthy mindsets in impressionable people, you're incredibly naïve.
Besides, I was calling out NintendoLife's hypocrisy. "We're better then this!". Indeed.
Re: Waifu Uncovered Mixes Bullet-Hell With Boobies, And Even Comes With A "One Finger" Mode
NintendoLife; Reports on the terrible situation involving sexual abuse at Evo.
Next day. Promotes a game about stripping girls.
Good job NintendoLife. I feel dirty. How about you?
Re: Random: Have Super Smash Bros. Boxes Been Teasing Future Games All Along?
Super Smash Bros: A System Update May Be Required, confirmed.
Re: Paper Mario: The Origami King Features A Seamless Open World And "Huge Maps"
Had mine on pre-order for a while. There's nothing else out there like the modern Paper Mario experience.
Re: Nintendo President Apologises For Joy-Con Drift, Can't Comment Further Due To Ongoing Lawsuit
One of my JoyCons drifts too. It is annoying.
Re: Random: Pokémon GO Grandpa's Amazing Phone Rig Has Gigantamaxed
Let the old guy have some fun.
However, I am amazed he hasn't been mugged or fallen over or hit by a car yet.
Re: Video: Miss Nintendo Directs? Check Out This Crowd-Pleasing 'Nontendo Direct' Presentation
See, it's videos like this that are the reason fans are always miserable.
And another thing, a Nintendo Direct full of nothing but Ports and Remasters would be extremely disappointing to me. We run the risk of becoming obsessed with them and not getting any new titles.
Are we all going to be moaning about Mario Odyssey not being ported to the "Switch 2" in 4-5 years time? Probably by the looks of things.
Re: Animal Crossing: New Horizons Summer Updates Will Add Swimming, Diving And More
My wife is feeling poorly and this cheered her right up.
Re: Random: Something's Really Not Right With That Pokémon Unite Promo Image
... so? If we're going to be this picky gamers will never be happy.
Re: Pokémon Unite, An Online Team Battle Game, Revealed For Switch And Mobile
If they hadn't called it a "Big announcement", they would have saved themselves a lot of disappointed fans.
Re: Reminder: "Big" Pokémon Project To Be Revealed In Pokémon Presents Livestream Tomorrow
To be honest, any of the following would make me happy;
Pokemon Let's Go Johto.
Pokemon D&P remakes.
Pokemon Stadium 3
A new Pokemon RPG in the style of Coliseum/Gale of Darkness.
A Pokemon MMO Project.
They can't really disappoint me unless they announce something underwhelming like a new mobile title or something.
Re: Nintendo To Cut Back On Mobile Games After Animal Crossing Success, Says Report
I don't think we should be celebrating this. It's bad news that Nintendo failed in a market with such a huge potential player base.
It's also curious that they would choose to do less on mobile, when if they put more effort in they might end up creating something with the kind of success of Pokemon Go.
Odd decision. They should continue investing. There's no guarantee their next console will be as big a hit as the Switch. History proves that. They're putting all their eggs in one basket.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl #47 - Shadowrun
The bonus one gets my vote!
They're all good in their own way, but I would vote for Japan if I had to choose.
Re: The Remake Of The Classic Cel-Shaded Shooter XIII Launches This November
No thanks. The original sucked balls, in my humble opinion.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl #46 - Sonic The Hedgehog 3
They're all winners! I like them all.