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New Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies Trailers Reveal Mature Rating

Posted by Tim Latshaw

It’s “the nature of the various crimes and storylines”

Capcom has released more info and videos on its Unity site for the anticipated release of Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies. Within those new videos, however, came a new detail that has been surprising to some: for the first time in the series, Phoenix Wright’s new cases have been rated “M” by the ESRB.

Joystiq has reportedly confirmed the rating with an unnamed Capcom representative, who gave no details as to why the rating may have been raised other than it is “[d]ue to the nature of the various crimes and storylines in this latest title of the series.”

The content descriptors given by the ESRB do not appear to shed any further light on the matter, as Dual Destinies has the same “Violence,” “Blood,” “Suggestive Themes” and “Language” listings that have appeared on other Teen-rated games in the series. The degree to which these themes appear in relation to the other titles may have been seen as a cause to raise the rating, but this only remains speculation unless the ESRB states its reasonings. So far, it has declined to make comment.

You can view both new videos for Dual Destinies below: one showcasing the shadowy Prosecutor Blackquill and the other going into the investigation of a crime scene.


Does the new “M” rating of Dual Destinies concern you one way or the other, or is it all just another day at the law office to you? Let us know below.

[via joystiq.com, esrb.org, capcom-unity.com]

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Jaz007

#1

Jaz007 said:

I'm certainly not getting this now. This seriously has to be an idiotic move by capcom though, they have nothing to gain by an M rating. People aren't going to want to buy the game more because it's rated M. People are only going to not buy the game because of it. An M rating doesn't even fit Phoenix Wright, it's too lighthearted and fun. I'm not even sure I really believe this, I really can't understand why it would be M. This can't possibly do the series any favors. I honestly think this will hurt the games sales.

Dark-Luigi

#3

Dark-Luigi said:

M rated...But the others were rated T...Hm. I don't know, but I guess I'll still consider it... :(

psycoticdev1l

#4

psycoticdev1l said:

@Jaz007 I don't understand why you won't buy it all because of the rating, when you seem to have liked the series before. I personally think this could be a good thing, it's possible they are trying something new in the series or getting into better detail that they could not have done before with a T rating.

ToastyYogurt

#5

ToastyYogurt said:

@psycoticdev1l: Considering the inclusion of sentences like "Nobody is going to buy the game becuase of it. People are only going to not buy the game because of it." in his comment, I believe he is joking. :)

Jaz007

#7

Jaz007 said:

@psycoticdev1l I've played Trials and Tribulations, I still need to finish. This game isn't that high on my radar. I think it's a legitamittly bad business move. Most people who want a game to be M rated don't want to play Phoenix Wright, it's 3DS which has a large amount of customers that don't play or want M games. An M rating doesn't represent the franchise very well either. I don't see the franchise going where a lot of fans of it want it to with an M rating either. I think they will be alienating the existing without really gaining any new ones here. The series doesn't really need either. Most poeple don't play PW for detailed rape cases or detailed gory murder scenes.

PSI_King

#9

PSI_King said:

What a stupid reason to give it an M Rating. It looks like it should have gotten a T Rating.

psuboy172

#10

psuboy172 said:

Still a 1 day release for me...but this is what happened to Mirror of Fate...I don't like when games try to be M. The first 5 AA games were all great! Why change rating?

Jaz007

#11

Jaz007 said:

@ToastyYogurt I didn't mean it that way, I meant that I don't think the M rating is going to increase sales. I edited it to try to clarify what I meant. I don't think nobody will buy it due an M rating. As you can see, the reaction to it here hasn't been very positive even form people who buy M games and will still buy it too.

Kyloctopus

#12

Kyloctopus said:

@Jaz007 I see your view of things, but isn't most of the AA fans at the age of 17 now? Or will buy it anyways. Afterall, that doesn't seem to stop Activision going to the bank every year for Call of Duty.

CanisWolfred

#13

CanisWolfred said:

Nor can anybody be stopped from buying an M Rated game from the eShop. Who exactly is gonna card them, huh?

haniwa

#14

haniwa said:

Ha, maybe they just squeezed in some swear word or two to get the M rating.

CAM290

#15

CAM290 said:

I'm not sure how things are nowadays for younger gamers, but I remember when i was around 10 (now 24) i had quite a few M rated titles on my N64. My mom or grandma could always acknowledge & confirm that they were ok with it to the lady (or gentlemen) over the counter when i would purchase these games with allowance money. Funny enough, I was just ID carded at Best Buy when i purchased Ninja Gaiden 3 for Wii U, I showed my ID card and laughed. "How old do you think I am?" I asked the lady over the counter. "hmm 16 or 17?" I laughed and said "wow now your just trying to sweet talk me!"

Jukilum

#17

Jukilum said:

@Kyloctapus: I am old enough to buy an M rated game at retail should I desire, but I have moral qualms with the content in such games. I have been a fan of the series and have played all of the games that are out so far in the West, but Capcom has lost me with this.

Caryslan

#19

Caryslan said:

Ok, before everyone blames Capcom, keep in mind one thing. The ESRB has become alot more strict over the years in how they rate games. What might have flown 10 years ago as a Teen rated game might get an M rating now. The content might not be any worse then the other games overall. It might have been the crime scene photos that hurt the game.

No, I don't think we are going to get F-bombs or sex scenes in this game. I think the rating was due to the graphic nature of the crime scenes and photos that have been in the series. SImply put, virtually every case in the series has been a murder case. Maybe that and the increased power of the 3DS played a role in causing the shift in rating.

Or maybe its the ESRB playing it safe since video games have been targeted in recent months. What might have flown in the previous games as a T rating might now be an M rating now. Keep in mind, the standards keep changing over time.

So unless Capcom really crossed the line, I don't think the blame lies with them alone. I think the content is the same as its always been. Maybe a bit more detail on crime scene photos might have been enough to push it over the edge. The AA games always danced close to the line several times in the past.

Gregor

#21

Gregor said:

@Jaz007 number one, that's EXTREMELY brash and shallow minded of you and number two, that humor might have earned it the M rating have you ever thought of that? The humor of the series can be quite crude at times.

psycoticdev1l

#22

psycoticdev1l said:

@Jaz007
You're implying almost no one over the age of 18 has a 3DS/doesn't want to play M rated games, which is so far from true. And since you have played these games, you should know that they have pushed that T rating as far a it will go, from murders/suicides, mild sexual themes and the like, very 'mature' stuff. My theory for why the rating is now an M, is because the crime scenes and murders have become much more detailed and have raised the rating because of that. Or it could be for some other reason, who knows, maybe they wanted to try something new or different with the series instead of resting on their laurels and playing it safe. But honestly, if you are not going to play a game that is in a series you like all because of the rating change, that's really sad you think like that.

Jaz007

#24

Jaz007 said:

@UgliestSoup You don't need to make fun of me. I may be a bit unhappy about this, but I think it a bad idea for Capcom business wise. Can you tell me how the sales will increase from this? I'm not just saying all this because I don't personally like the M rating. Ethics aside I think it's a bad idea. I get unhappy that a number of games get M rated, but I can understand why they would do it, but I can't make sense of this.

Gregor

#26

Gregor said:

@Caryslan I like this person. He/she has a point. Besides, do you HONESTLY think that Capcom would purposefully net the game a mature rating? C'mon people.

Gregor

#27

Gregor said:

@Jaz007 you think Capcom purposefully got the game an M rating? Geez. How daft can one be. I can garuntee you that almost no company would go after an M rating just to increase sales. It is what it is, Pheonix wright. If you were an actual fan you would know that.

Gregor

#29

Gregor said:

@Jukilum does this look like Call of Duty to you? It it an FPS with zombies and war and dull textures? No. It's a point and click adventure.

Jaz007

#30

Jaz007 said:

@psycoticdev1l I'm not implying that, I'm implying that there is a good porition of the market this could hurt. A lot of kids own 3DSs who can't play M because of their parents, not all 3DS owners, but the market is definitely there. I haven't personally noticed that much extreme stuff from my time with trials and tribulations, it could have just been me with that. I'm sorry if you don't like that I can't play M games or don't like the content they have. Can you some of you guys stop jumping down my throat too? I'm the only person that has gotten blasted for personnally not being so sure about the game now because it's M.

JesseMcCloud

#31

JesseMcCloud said:

This is yet another reason the ESRB needs to look at PEGI's example and start making more ratings, with more detailed descriptors. At LEAST a T-15 rating for games like Uncharted, Halo, and this: Stuff a little too edgy for a T, but not adult enough to get lumped in with Resident Evil and God of War.

Objection

#32

Objection said:

Stop being butthurt, Community. Geez.

Anyway, I'm surprised but it's probably the ESRB being over cautious. I've long thought we need a Teen+ rating since E10 largely replaced the old Teen without having a Text Adventure Mystery game get an Adult rating. (I'm aware that this also has a C CERO and 16 PEGI fyi.)

I do hope that this is part of the game trying new things instead of being needlessly or style-breakingly violent/whatever.

I don't think the rating will effect sales in the same way it would if it was retail. You can enter any age on the eshop in my experience. (I'm too lazy to add my exact age each time.)

ThetaRobo

#33

ThetaRobo said:

@Jukilum Yes, because boycotting a video game that decides to appeal to different (decidedly more "adult") sensibilities totally reflects on one's morality.

@Jaz007 Learn how the ratings system works, please. The usual trend with game companies is they tone-down a game to avoid higher ratings (e.g. OOT). Ace Attorney has been (and always will be) a franchise that revolves around courtroom scenarios that usually stem from murder (gruesome ones at that, depending on the case). Bravo to Capcom for planning on releasing the game as intended. There's a big difference between "hardcore" blood and "realistic" blood; one is there for a reason. You seem to be speaking out of context a lot, plus you've proven your experience with the franchise to be very little, so I assume that would serve to detach yourself further from the topic at hand.

SMT Games are historically M Rated, not as "hardcore" as you describe M Rated games to be.

TimLatshawAdmin

#34

TimLatshaw said:

I of course can only speculate without official word from Capcom or the ESRB, but I find it highly unlikely that Capcom would intentionally make Dual Destinies an M-rated title as a means of boosting sales. It doesn't seem to make any business sense to do so--especially with an established franchise that's largely considered Nintendo-centric--and it doesn't seem they've been pushing the game to potential audiences as more "mature," either. I would have to guess now that the ESRB has either become more strict as noted in above comments or there is a bit more of something than in other games just as part of the story--but probably not for pure shock value. Sometimes just a bit more blood could be enough to change a rating.

My opinion does not reflect the opinions of Nintendo Life or any of its subsidiaries, yada yada.

ThetaRobo

#36

ThetaRobo said:

This whole thing brings back memories of the Metroid Prime 3 M Rating controversy. Of course, it never was rated M to begin with, but people sure did freak out when those fake GameStop cases went on display before release.

Jukilum

#38

Jukilum said:

@ThetaRobo I'm not entirely sure whether you're rrplying to my second or third comment. I'll assume the latter. I was mainly referring to how most of the replies to @Jaz007 include personal insults because of his views instead of relying on the merits of his arguments. There are some people replying to his actual arguments, but most of those still include insults.

AVahne

#39

AVahne said:

Meh, don't care. Ratings like these mean absolutely nothing to me as long as the game is fun. Since I'm interested by the fact that'll be eShop only in the states, I might pick this up next year. Hoping Senran Kagura Burst and Project Mirai 1 and 2 can make it here through the eShop.

SCAR392

#40

SCAR392 said:

Ya, I'm betting it wasn't intentional. Besides, anyone who played Pheonix Wright when it first came out has gotten at least 9 years older.

ThetaRobo

#41

ThetaRobo said:

@Jukilum Fair enough, but where are the morals in shooting down a game based on the rating instead of the content? People are WAY too quick to judge a game by its packaging these days. From what we can see, there aren't any big changes in the content themes between the GBA/DS games to this one. Simply turning down a game that you've considered buying based simply on the rating and not how much you like the content isn't "ethical", more like flawed judgement.

Moorpheel

#42

Moorpheel said:

Shut up about the rating already... Does that second video imply Wright is dead?!

Objection

#44

Objection said:

@morphtorok- It does seem to imply that. And also simultaneously imply that he is again the defendant.

Dude, if they actually killed him off, that would be the wackest s---, I don't know if I'd be angry or impressed.

theblackdragonAdmin

#45

theblackdragon said:

so first everyone flips out because some people have said they don't want to buy digital, now you're all flipping out because someone isn't interested in an M-rated PW game. can't we all just respect that other people have their own reasons for doing things and leave it at that without jumping down their throats? :/

Senario

#47

Senario said:

@Jaz007 Agreed, maybe some small subset of people think that an M rating actually means the people who play the game are mature. After all, isn't that what most young people want?

I wasn't getting this game because of the digital only thing, this rating doesn't really affect me.

psycoticdev1l

#48

psycoticdev1l said:

@Jaz007 I'm not trying to jump down your throat, however I just don't think the game being rated M will change it dramatically. If you don't like that, fine, I'm not gonna force you to, but it seems silly that you won't buy it because of the rating, especially since we don't know what caused it yet. If I were you, I'd wait to see what made it get a M rating and judge it then instead of immediately dismissing it now.

NintendoNaut

#51

NintendoNaut said:

I think the negative reaction is silly. I for one am excited that Phoenix Wright may be dealing with more mature subjects. If you're going to automatically write a game off because of its rating then I disagree with you.

benjamines

#52

benjamines said:

Doesn't make a bit of difference to me. I'll be getting this as soon as it's released.

RR529

#53

RR529 said:

I don't think Capcom was going for an "M" rating, and I don't think the tone of the game is going to be much, if any, darker than the previous entries.

Despite the lighthearted tone of the series, murder cases (including blood) are nothing new to it either. It's probably that the images appear to be more graphic simply due to the 3DS's power, and that jump in detail was just enough for the ESRB to list it as "M", instead of "T".

Gregor

#54

Gregor said:

the question was rhetorical. please play nicely or you may wind up banned — TBD

BigDaddysPizza

#55

BigDaddysPizza said:

Wow. I'm shocked. I guess this fits with the dark tone.
BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE AWESOOOOOOOOME!!!!!!

coolvw93

#57

coolvw93 said:

Why worry about the ratings? To me, I dont care about ratings. I would rather go and do my own digging and find out what content shows up in the game through reviews online.

But who knows, maybe some of the content in the game might be too traumatic for the teenage mind

RevolverLink

#58

RevolverLink said:

I've been greatly anticipating this game for 5 and a half years now, so an "M" next to the title or even a digital-only release won't deter me in the slightest, but I will admit that this seems a bit of an odd decision by the ESRB at the moment.

I have yet to see anything from Dual Destinies that would indicate a significant change in mood, theme or tone from all of the previous Ace Attorney entries, but I also haven't played the game and I'm basically on media blackout until release, so for all I know, the violence could be less implied than it previously was in the series.

Stark_Nebula

#59

Stark_Nebula said:

This could spring up a pretty good discussion on the rating of games versus the subject matter of books. In many ways, Ace Attorney is like a novel, filled with stories of crimes and murder. The irony is that the educational system often promotes classics with such subject matter for 8th and 9th graders but is never frowned upon, while the opposite may be true for this. I'm not saying 10 year old should play it, nor am I saying this game is in the same way a "classic" with superb writing, but I'm sure a lot of book-loving teens would enjoy the story this game has to offer because it did not limit itself as much/in anyway.

SonataAndante

#60

SonataAndante said:

In case nobody considered it the original games were on the GameBoy Advance, then ported to DS. As a result, the crime scenes and whatnot weren't exactly bursting with graphical fidelity. It was all just static pictures. Now everything is done in 3D, making it a bit more "realistic," or as realistic as PW will ever look probably. That alone could jump the rating.

Jollykarp

#61

Jollykarp said:

Gosh, this is a strange move.

Let's just hope it's rated M for Maya XD

apologies for making the worst jokes ever

DaemonSword

#62

DaemonSword said:

Let's hope one of the cases doesn't involve a neighborhood watch guy shooting a kid in hoodie, with a bag of skittles in his hand. lol

ferthepoet

#63

ferthepoet said:

I think the M writing is because of the terrorism bombing thing for some reason censors are more sensitive to stuff that deal with terrorism and I can't believe anyone would complain about the M rating is something Capcom has no control over and doesn't affect the quality of the game at alll

Shambo

#64

Shambo said:

I hope it simply gets grittier and more serious, while keeping it's humor. I also -perhaps even more- hope it will get a boxed European release. Together with the Layton crossover and Time Travellers.

Dormouse

#66

Dormouse said:

Wow this sounds interesting. Ive been curious about these games cuz I hear good tings but now im really curious about this one.

Einherjar

#68

Einherjar said:

I cant understand the fuzz about it. Did the ratings ever stop from kids getting their hands on any Grand theft modern battlefield 2000 ?
Its an attorney game about murder cases, i think its ok that it gets a slightly higher rating. That shows me that its cases are probably a bit more mature instead of just goofy. I cant get it into my head why this would keep people from buyng it...

Tasuki

#71

Tasuki said:

Well its not the rating thats keeping me from getting this its the digital only release thats keeping me from getting this. Unless that petition that Capcom started gets enough signatures that they will release a physical copy. Oh wait silly me the guy that started that no longer works for Capcom.

Zombie_Barioth

#72

Zombie_Barioth said:

I doubt Capcom has anything to do with this, sometimes games just end up with a higher rating than normal. Even a few Nintendo have earned themselves higher ratings despite usually being rated E. Capcom made their game and it Just happened to earn an M rating.

I don't see this affecting sales much either. Many Parents still buy their kids M-rated games no matter what they're told and anyone familar with crime shows or murder mysteries should know what they're getting into. You can't sugar-coat crime and murder while keeping things engaging and true to the formula. Past games were as tame as they were due to hardware limitations, but the 3DS is a lot more capable so they can do a lot more with the series on it. Its only natural the series would catch up to the nature of the genre eventually.

Csaw

#73

Csaw said:

This is a bad move on capcom's part because if previous experiences have taught us anything, it's that M rated games sell like crap on nintendo systems. With this news and the going digital only I'm kinda wondering if capcom wants this to flop so they have an excuse not to localize anymore AA games.

grimbldoo

#74

grimbldoo said:

I haven't played enough Phoenix Wright to know, but don't they usually not show the entire bloodied body? Like the bodies in the picture? That is probably what gave it the M rating, that or there are rape cases because even the cases in the first game were pretty brutal if you thought about them.

Dizzard

#75

Dizzard said:

I'll buy it anyway, the M rating doesn't exclude me.

It's unfortunate though, the rating can't help get more purchases. If any parents are reading this....if this game is anything like previous games in the series I wouldn't be concerned about teens playing it.

JakobG

#76

JakobG said:

Does anyone in the comments realize Capcom has NOTHING, NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with the rating? The ESRB has the only say in how the game is to be rated, and there's no indication that Dual Destinies is designed to be a darker entry; if it was, you could clearly tell.
I'll say it once again, in case you forgot it: COMPANIES CAN NOT PICK RATINGS.
Stop citing your "Mature rating to boost sales" garbage, it's a lie on so many levels.

BigBluePanda

#77

BigBluePanda said:

Probably because I am of age, but this is no big deal.

Only worry I would have if it hurt it's chances of coming over. I remember Trials and Tribulations nearly didn't make Europe because of the nature of the cases.

Peach64

#78

Peach64 said:

I can't believe so many people will let an age rating dictate their purchases. Once I was 18 and didn't have to worry about wether or not I'd get sold the game, I don't think I've ever looked at an age rating. I think it might be mostly a US thing where I understand a lot of stores won't carry anything rated adult? I don't get that. To me that says this is only suitable for adults, but in the US it seems to be taken as something else.

jackaroo

#79

jackaroo said:

I dont think this is a big deal and to be honest it's a bit of a surprise the other games haven't reached an M Rating already. I mean they deal with alot of mature things in the form of murders and even suicides. Even the first scene of the first game starts with a statue dripping with blood, followed by a woman with blood pouring from her head. My guess is that it hasn't got any worse than that but due to the added detail from the 3D Graphics it has just received the higher rating.

CoAndy

#80

CoAndy said:

@Caryslan i agree that the rating is probably due to the murders, in the third game when terry dies in court i was shocked that it was put in (i was 17 at the time) so yeah i can see the game now getting a more mature theme oh and those who want a fun AA story watch the MLP cross over :P

WiiULoveGBA

#82

WiiULoveGBA said:

I refuse to buy games with M rated content. I don't enjoy it and the world is brutal enough and beyond my control. Entertainment is within my control.

Zombie_Barioth

#83

Zombie_Barioth said:

@Peach64
The only places that do that here are stores like Toys R Us that are specifically for kids. All the fuss seems to be because either people are upset that a lot of kids won't be aloud to play it or don't understand how the ratings work and are upset that its being bumped up a notch. I really don't get that, not all games need to be suitable for everyone so why do they need to be watered down to reach a wider audience? You never hear people tell authors or film makers to water down their work.

To me Ace Attorney is just like any other crime show, like Bones or Castle and should be treated accordingly.

ferthepoet

#85

ferthepoet said:

@JakobG

Moreover ratings are very subjective, the same game can be either T or M depending on which of the ESRB guys got the task of rating it

Rargon

#86

Rargon said:

This is still shocking but it's not a total whoa moment, this has happened to some game franchises getting a different rating overtime. The only notable ones I remember is Kingdom Hearts going from E for Everyone to T for Teen, and the Prince of Persia games going from T to M. I think everyone remembers the first (and only time) Mortal Kombat went to a Teen Rating when they released Mortal Kombat Vs. DC Universe. I'm not saying the M Rating is truly justified for Ace Attorney, there could be absolutely nothing wrong with it to make it M, just like Ninety Nine Nights on the 360.

World

#87

World said:

@iMii I didn't exactly realize that this was also why I don't play M-rated games, but I think it is.

Also, an entire Phoenix Wright comment string, with a guy saying things people didn't agree with at that, and not one person said "Objection!"

Perhaps it is the fanbase that is M for Mature.

BakaKnight

#88

BakaKnight said:

I don't care for the Rating, I know it exist for a good reason, but the rating systems are always too strict and exagerated, making hard to really judge a game's contenent from their opinion >.>; (Still being this a game with murders and blood around I could understand their reasons, even crime movies and films are rated "adult only" usually.)

Anyway PW is PW and those trailers make me feel so hyped!!! Must Buy Game!!! :D

Kyloctopus

#89

Kyloctopus said:

@Jukilum A guys thought this game couldn't be for ages 14, 15, and 16. That doesn't mean it is such an awful and disgusting game. I have seen M-rated games have not such an awful story.

roryscott

#91

roryscott said:

Ace Attorney is my favourite video game series and I'm only 14. I will still get it, whatever my parents say, as I have been waiting for it for ages. I'M SO EXCITED! :D I can not wait to play it!

AJWolfTill

#92

AJWolfTill said:

I'm shocked that fans of the series would consider parting because of an altered age rating, at the very least wait for the reviews to try and determine why this has happened. It might simply be that the ESRB have treated similar scenes in the new art style more harshly. It could also be sensitivity about the blowing up of public buildings which we know to be a part of the plot. Don't assume the series has drastically changed in tone or direction simply because of this.

TheXboxHero

#93

TheXboxHero said:

I guess I can't get it. Oh well, I was really looking forward to this as My first Ace Attorney....

BigDaddysPizza

#94

BigDaddysPizza said:

@ngamer155
You can buy points on the eShop and then buy Dual Destinies at a later time. The eShop won't stop you from buying an M rated game.
Plus, M is an extreme stretch. It's going to be nearly the same as the past games. Which means it'll be fantastic. :)

AlexSora89

#95

AlexSora89 said:

Mustnotsnark-mustnotsnark-mustnotsnark-mustnotsnark-mustnotsnark
HEY KIDS, LOOK! IT'S RATED M! IT'S TOTALLY LIKE THOSE GRIM 'N' GRITTY SHOOTERS ON OTHER CONSOLES!
There, I said it.

Jonny

#96

Jonny said:

This is a downloadable game, I doubt the fact it's rated M is going to factor into anyone's buying choice choice and it'll come down to if people want to play a phoenix wright game, they'll download it. If they don't want to, they won't. I can't see anything else being a factor.

Clayfrd

#97

Clayfrd said:

@Jaz007 Anyone that prefers games solely based on ESRB rating should reconsider. Buy games because they're good or bad, not because of what they're rated. I don't even look at ratings when I buy games.

Also, people seem to be bringing a lot of baseless conjecture into this argument. I don't think this game is rated M because Capcom was trying to attract the FPS demographic or anything like that. I think it's rated M because the 3DS's hardware is advanced such that truly representing the scene of a murder has now become more realistically graphic. Nothing wrong with that. I don't see the reason to get in a fuss over an ESRB stamp.

tenshinohone

#98

tenshinohone said:

Does that mean the characters can finally drink wine instead of 'grape juice'? That was an embarrassment! Brutal murders were A-OK but alcohol drinking by responsible adults is not? Seriously that was always so annoying.

Bass_X0

#99

Bass_X0 said:

Maybe Phoenix is actually teetotal? It wouldn't be out of character for him to choose not to drink alcohol.

Buy games because they're good or bad, not because of what they're rated.

Assuming they are old enough to play Mature games.

tenshinohone

#100

tenshinohone said:

@Bass_X0 As is Edgeworth, Kristophe Gavin and other characters? Possible but unlikely. It's been done with some anime localisations too - conversion of all alcohol into fruit juice to make it child friendly, but violence all over the place... I really don't get it

sillygostly

#101

sillygostly said:

Meanwhile, in Australia, it's been rated PG for "Mild violence and themes" (akin to PEGI's 7+ rating and ESRB's E10+ rating), the same rating as all of the other Ace Attorney games. :P

It is also said to contain "very mild" (i.e. able to be accommodated under the G rating) coarse language, drug references and sexual references.

ToadFan

#102

ToadFan said:

@tenshinohone Even in the Japanese version, it's considered fruit juice. So I think the people in the AA World really like fruit juice.

This is not very news, now some people won't be able to get the game. Also, this most likely means that the series will now have a "darker tone" so it might lose some of it's humor and charm.

Zombie_Barioth

#103

Zombie_Barioth said:

@ToadFan
Not to mention having a drink or two before going to court (or during court for that matter) isn't exactly a wise decision.

I doubt the series will gain a "darker tone". I think the rating is due to the 3D art style and not using static images. What they've shown so far isn't that bad its just more detailed than past games. I imagine the other games would have been rated M if they were made with the same amount of detail as this one.

MagicEmperor

#104

MagicEmperor said:

An M rating? That was surprising... but not a deal-breaker at all.

@theblackdragon I have specific reasons for believing why this is the wrong game to boycott (since the future of the series in America pretty much depends on this game), but ultimately it's everyone's choice. With all due respect, since I know we're on opposing sides of the issue (at least, from what I recall in previous articles).

Also, I think some people flipped out over his/her opinion because the M rating isn't Capcom's call--it's the ESRB's. So to boycott the game for that rating, to certain people, isn't a good stance. Of course, we won't know for sure until the game comes out.

Afrodudex

#107

Afrodudex said:

@Jaz007 I think one of the main reasons why it's rated M is because of the first case where a courtroom is blown up. With all the terrorist acts happening nowadays, it's obvious that the ERSB has stricter policies with terrorism in video games

Jaz007

#108

Jaz007 said:

@Afrodudex I'm pretty sure the ESRB is not supposed to operate that way though. It would be a breach of policy to operate like that.

B3ND3R

#110

B3ND3R said:

This doesn't really affect me in any way, so I am perfectly okay with the M-rating, more Ace Attorney is never a bad thing.

VoiceOfReason

#111

VoiceOfReason said:

Next thing you know, Professor Layton, Luke, and Flora'll be droppin F-Bombs
and swearing all over the place. Especially Flora.

jmr908

#112

jmr908 said:

I think that this is a HUGE mistake on Capcom's part. After reading some of the comments on other websites, I have to say that I think that it's M only in america because of the Bombing case at the beginning. Gee, the government is getting really jumpy of bombing related things. Especially in video games. I wonder why...

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