My disdain for these two individuals aside, I really do doubt Mario Kart World will have DLC. Nintendo doesn't really do DLC for Mario games because their philosophy is to pack them with as much content as possible (they drop the ball sometimes with the sports games on that front, but when they do, they fix it with free updates, not paid DLC.)
Mario Kart 8 took 8 years to get DLC, I doubt world will get it any sooner.
@TerribleTerabytes these devs, while being the creators of Danganronpa and Zero Escape, don't own the rights to either. This is their new studio they opened together, independent from Spike Chunsoft.
Japanese games are unique because they're made by Japanese people with japanese sensibilities. when they try to appeal to western sensibilities, they lose their identity.
@Samalik not only that, there's archives slack messages between Mariel Cartwright and the other woman (I forgot her name) outright stating that they KNEW Mike's weirder interaction were because of his autism and not some type of malice and he always felt terrible about it and worked to correct his behaviors when they pointed out his misreading of social cues... yet they still very deliberately chose to throw him under the bus and ruin his career and reputation in order to take control of the IP.
considering y'all got hands on in the game, can you confrim whether or not all the elements of the character customization are there? or did you not get to make your character).
I'll get the game regardless, but I really would like to get that confirmation.
Imma be real, I f*cking hate this game and everything it stands for.
I know I'm gonna be in the minority here, but to me, this the embodiment of "we want our anime game to be taken seriously by the west".
So the colors became more muted to look 'serious', the most over-the-top aspects and designs were heavily toned down (and I'm not even talking about female characters here, I'm mean in general, from character designs to even the UI), and every aspect seems to have taken a step back to try to be taken seriously.
For those who enjoy it, have fun.
but for me, I REALLY wish they had ported Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-. but for some reason, 3D modeled fighting games always get ignored in re-releases.
@8bit-Man I mean, we'll only know if it's a "mid-cycle upgrade" once we get more information on what it can do. if the rummors of it being as powerful as a PS4 are true, that alone warants it's existence.
Ideally, I'd like to see Sonic's world merge with earth for good at some point. kinda like how Sonic X season 2 did, brining more animal people to earth and making them more commonplace. that way you don't need to create an excuse to introduce more characters, while also keeping the setting relatively grounded.
I'd love either a new DoA (hopefully going back to what made DoA5LR so good, and NOT being afraid of infusing fanservice into it) or a new mainline Ninja Gaiden so we can finally pretend we're getting Ninja Gaiden 4 and that Yaiba never happened.
@Elbow I'd say shadow generations was kinda proof that they learned the right lessons. It's overworked was basically a more polished and compact version of Frontiers's island, and the level design was (in my opinion) the absolute best in the Boost era (the fact that the levels had good length and a proper separation between 2d and 3d helped a lot).
@Itachi2099 same, even with the Rom and Palworld stuff, that was on their legal side.
but this legits gives me pause about getting their next console. this does seem to be NoA's doing, So I really hope the HQ in Japan starts putting their foot down like they did at the start of the Switch's generation (If you'll remember, the 3DS and Wii U days were pretty awful with censorship. the Switch's first year weren't perfect but they were MUCH better with allowing Japanese Devs the freedom to make games as they wanted. Now it looks like we're going back again).
I'm gonna wait a bit and see how things go with launch line up for the next console, but I'm legit considering a Steam Deck now.
@IceEarthGuard that's the problem with regulations like this. it's a good thing in theory, but in practice, it'll be up to whatever agent is in charge of approving what "looks underrage", specially when highly stylized art is involved.
@HeadPirate oh please, right wing Christian nationalism hasn't had the power for censor thing since the early 2000s, lately its far left DEI that has been responsible.
But whatever the side or reason, that doesn't matter. It shouldn't be happening and this directly contradicts what Furukawa said in 2019.
I am shocked at this. This flies directly in the face of what Furukawa said in 2019.
I quote "Nintendo, as do 3rd-parties and their software, applies for an objective rating from 3rd-party organizations prior to release. If platform-holding companies choose arbitrarily, the diversity and fairness in game software would be significantly inhibited. We provide parental controls that can be used to apply limits."
This has to be NoA and NoE pulling some shenanigans. and I'd REALLY urge everyone who even remotely cares about freedom of expression in games to email Nintendo of Japan talking about this situation. If we can bully Nintendo of America into releasing the Operation Rainfall games in the west by being relentless, we need to do the same here. because this is simply unnaceptable.
@OstianOwl the problem was that, unlike bayonetta or even mythra, mai would require a DRASTIC change. So he figured it wasn't worth going through that just for a cameo.
@Not_Soos from what I've remeber, what he actually did was something about CERO no allowing for Mai to appear in her original look. So yes, "the good boys and girls" was a localization choice.
@MARl0 I just learned of the existence of Prison Princess 2 and if that's true, I'll be extremely disappointed, one of the main reasons I dropped every other major console except for Nintendo was because Furukawa was the only CEO of the Big 3 to openly denounce censorship and say in no uncertain terms that Nintendo doesn't censor third parties.
Really hope NoA isn't taking things in their own hands. I tried googling about it after reading your comment and the only "proof" I found was someone commenting "Nintendo of America and Europe are not allowing lewd games like this on their eShops anymore. Tokyo Clanpool is also not coming to the Western eShops and they directly cited this as the reason."
@Zaruboggan say, this might be a long shot but, is there a way you contact the devs to get clarification? if nothing else, it'd be good to have just to understand what happened here.
Assuming this WAS censorship, When we complain about the west becoming overly puritanical and censorious, this here is exactly what we try to warn people about.
I haven't heard of this game before and Shmups aren't my cup-o-tea, but it's ridiculous that this game gets refused classification over what seems to be just suggestive imagery and covered up cartoon boobs, while stuff like Last of Us 2 can have realistic graphic violence, full frontal nudity, and a sex scene.
People saying like "the game looks bad", or "looks mid" are entirely missing the point here.
@stinkyx I am! though I'd be content with a Dead or Alive 5 Deluxe on Switch to hold me over. (it's probably my favorite fighting game ever made. I main La Mariposa).
Hopefully the Switch's successor will be their priority and not the Playstation, not only does Nintendo not impose censorship regulations (which is why I STRONGLY defend that Dead or Alive should come back with the Switch as its only console), but Koei Tecmo and Nintendo have been doing some fantastic work together!
@Carck exaclty. it's one thing to be indifferent, if you're to personally bothered by the changes, that's one thing, but to come out and attack people who are upset and actually defend the censorship is a whole 'nother thing.
@nessisonett well mate, if you want an example of "what else are they gonna do?" look no further than Senran Kagura.
Senran Kagura Burst Renewal came out on both PS4 and PC, however, the PS4 released had to be delayed to remove a feature called "Intimacy mode" from the dress up menu (mind you, this feature was in every single Senran Kagura game after Shinovi Versus, and is present in Senran Kagura Reflexions and Peach Ball on the Switch).
Next thing that happens, due to Sony's censorship policy and an allegedly exclusivity contract, the franchise is now dead. the series creator left Marvelous and expressed in no uncertain terms that with their new regulations, it'd be impossible to make Senran Kagura 7EVEN (the next game in the franchise that was highly anticipated by fans) in its original vision.
Ever since that, SK only exists as a Mobile game thats Japanese exclusive.
So yes, they DO take a mile if you give them an inch. I'm honestly surprised they haven't covered up Baiken yet but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they did.
I said it before and I'll say it again.
Strive is what happens when a Typically anime-style over-the-top japanese property tries to cater to the west. every design gets toned down (not just the female characters, every single design is more boring and less striking than Xrd), the colors get muted, and every edge gets sanded off. and everything that's "problematic" has to get removed.
This game is a piece of *****. I'm glad I never bought it, They didn't need to give another reason to never wanna touch it but I guess they did now. It's not like I hadn't already long lost my respect for this team.
Censoring a feature long after a game's been released so you can't refund it's a one-way ticket to guarantee I'll never buy another game by these developers again.
Comments 635
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
My disdain for these two individuals aside, I really do doubt Mario Kart World will have DLC. Nintendo doesn't really do DLC for Mario games because their philosophy is to pack them with as much content as possible (they drop the ball sometimes with the sports games on that front, but when they do, they fix it with free updates, not paid DLC.)
Mario Kart 8 took 8 years to get DLC, I doubt world will get it any sooner.
Re: "DROP THE PRICE!!!" Scream Nintendo Fans During Nintendo's Treehouse Live Broadcast
@Mattock1987 Tariffs have nothing to do with that. cuz if they did, it wouldn't apply worldwide.
Re: Donkey Kong: Bananza, A New 3D DK Adventure, Is Confirmed For Switch 2
Game looks amazing. BUT WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE THAT?!
Re: Feature: "If The Game Does Not Sell Well, We May Be Done" - It's Do Or Die For Too Kyo Games & 'The Hundred Line'
@TerribleTerabytes these devs, while being the creators of Danganronpa and Zero Escape, don't own the rights to either. This is their new studio they opened together, independent from Spike Chunsoft.
Re: Feature: "If The Game Does Not Sell Well, We May Be Done" - It's Do Or Die For Too Kyo Games & 'The Hundred Line'
I really loved the demo. I'll be picking this up day one.
Re: Random: Sega Surprises Sonic The Hedgehog Fans With Official Timeline
@N00BiSH okay, first off, the shoes are drip incarnate.
Secondly... I don't actually have a point. I was just appaled by the shoe disrespect xD
Re: Random: Xenoblade Chronicles X On Switch Has A New 'Sex' Warning, But Why?
I gotta say, it really caught me off guard when Elma suddenly stripped and started to **** Tatsu in thr middle of New L.A.
Re: Sakurai Says Japanese Developers Should Avoid Trying To Appeal To Western Tastes
He is, of course, 100% correct.
Japanese games are unique because they're made by Japanese people with japanese sensibilities. when they try to appeal to western sensibilities, they lose their identity.
Re: Skullgirls Dev Is Off The Game, Taking Legal Action Against Publisher
@Samalik not only that, there's archives slack messages between Mariel Cartwright and the other woman (I forgot her name) outright stating that they KNEW Mike's weirder interaction were because of his autism and not some type of malice and he always felt terrible about it and worked to correct his behaviors when they pointed out his misreading of social cues... yet they still very deliberately chose to throw him under the bus and ruin his career and reputation in order to take control of the IP.
Re: Skullgirls Dev Is Off The Game, Taking Legal Action Against Publisher
Good. Hope they go out of business for what they did to Mike Z. The man deserves justice (and it looks like his lawsuit is going well too).
Re: New Tactical RPG From Danganronpa & Zero Escape Creators Scores A Demo
I tried the demo and it was great! definetly one of my most anticipated games this year!
Re: Hands On: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition - A Decade On, Mira's Still Got It
considering y'all got hands on in the game, can you confrim whether or not all the elements of the character customization are there? or did you not get to make your character).
I'll get the game regardless, but I really would like to get that confirmation.
Re: Talking Point: Which 'Tales' Game Will Come To Switch Next?
Xillia and Abyss are my favorite Tales of games. And I'd love to play Berseria. Heard good things about it.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Has Been Rated For Switch
@JohnnyMind I'm still holding out hope for that breast slider.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Has Been Rated For Switch
@Debo626 probably means it'll get dlc.
Re: Review: Tales Of Graces f Remastered (Switch) - The Characters Steal The Show In This JRPG Classic
I really wanted Tales of Xillia and Xillia 2 on Switch, but at this point, it's looking like the dream will have to move on to the switch 2.
Re: Review: Guilty Gear -Strive- Nintendo Switch Edition (Switch) - A Fine Port & A Bold New Step
Imma be real, I f*cking hate this game and everything it stands for.
I know I'm gonna be in the minority here, but to me, this the embodiment of "we want our anime game to be taken seriously by the west".
So the colors became more muted to look 'serious', the most over-the-top aspects and designs were heavily toned down (and I'm not even talking about female characters here, I'm mean in general, from character designs to even the UI), and every aspect seems to have taken a step back to try to be taken seriously.
For those who enjoy it, have fun.
but for me, I REALLY wish they had ported Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-. but for some reason, 3D modeled fighting games always get ignored in re-releases.
Re: 15 Best Sidequests In Switch Games
I just played Return to Crookback Bog, and, while it's a great quest, doesn't really belong on this list. It's a main quest, not a side one.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Reveal Trailer Gives First Official Look At The New Console
@8bit-Man I mean, we'll only know if it's a "mid-cycle upgrade" once we get more information on what it can do. if the rummors of it being as powerful as a PS4 are true, that alone warants it's existence.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Reveal Trailer Gives First Official Look At The New Console
@Dogorilla I guess we'll know more when they do a proper deep dive.
Re: Sonic's Next Movie Outings Could Go Beyond Earth To New "Fantastical Zones"
Ideally, I'd like to see Sonic's world merge with earth for good at some point. kinda like how Sonic X season 2 did, brining more animal people to earth and making them more commonplace. that way you don't need to create an excuse to introduce more characters, while also keeping the setting relatively grounded.
Re: Review: Freedom Wars Remastered (Switch) - A Fair Reprieve For One Of PS Vita's Best
I was very interested until I saw that they once again went with the "Type A and Type B" instead of just saying Male and Female like normal people
Truly a shame they're still pushing that agenda that literally nobody likes, Now I wonder if anything got censored.
Re: Team Ninja Gears Up For Its 30th Anniversary
@KociolekDoSyta Good.
Re: Team Ninja Gears Up For Its 30th Anniversary
I'd love either a new DoA (hopefully going back to what made DoA5LR so good, and NOT being afraid of infusing fanservice into it) or a new mainline Ninja Gaiden so we can finally pretend we're getting Ninja Gaiden 4 and that Yaiba never happened.
Re: Sega President Shuji Utsumi On Sonic The Hedgehog’s Next Major Outing
@Elbow I'd say shadow generations was kinda proof that they learned the right lessons. It's overworked was basically a more polished and compact version of Frontiers's island, and the level design was (in my opinion) the absolute best in the Boost era (the fact that the levels had good length and a proper separation between 2d and 3d helped a lot).
All they gotta do now is stay the course.
Re: Freedom Wars Remastered Japanese Switch Box Art Revealed, Here's A First Look
@Serpenterror you can thank Sony not giving a sh*t about their Japanese IPs for that.
Re: Switch Online's 'Missions And Rewards' Brings Back Previous 2024 Icons
dammit, the ONE game I wanted a second chance to get the icons are the Xenoblade 2 ones.
Re: Sonic Movie Writers Talk About Two Requested Characters For Live-Action
I feel like, if they're gonna add Rouge, a Shadow project (whether a mini series or a movie) would be the best way to go.
Re: Multiple Cartoon Network Games Have Been Removed From The Switch eShop
I'm glad I got Samurai Jack when I did. sucks to hear it got delisted.
Re: Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge Of The Seven Lands New Switch Update, Here Are The Patch Notes
It's a fantastic RPG. definetly my Game of the Year along with Shadow Generations.
Re: 'Hyperdimension Neptunia' & 'Death End' Switch Releases Scrapped For "Not Complying With Nintendo Guidelines"
@Itachi2099 same, even with the Rom and Palworld stuff, that was on their legal side.
but this legits gives me pause about getting their next console. this does seem to be NoA's doing, So I really hope the HQ in Japan starts putting their foot down like they did at the start of the Switch's generation (If you'll remember, the 3DS and Wii U days were pretty awful with censorship. the Switch's first year weren't perfect but they were MUCH better with allowing Japanese Devs the freedom to make games as they wanted. Now it looks like we're going back again).
I'm gonna wait a bit and see how things go with launch line up for the next console, but I'm legit considering a Steam Deck now.
Re: 'Hyperdimension Neptunia' & 'Death End' Switch Releases Scrapped For "Not Complying With Nintendo Guidelines"
@IceEarthGuard that's the problem with regulations like this. it's a good thing in theory, but in practice, it'll be up to whatever agent is in charge of approving what "looks underrage", specially when highly stylized art is involved.
Re: 'Hyperdimension Neptunia' & 'Death End' Switch Releases Scrapped For "Not Complying With Nintendo Guidelines"
@HeadPirate I find it hard to believe that far-left christian nationalism is an issue in California of all places.
Re: 'Hyperdimension Neptunia' & 'Death End' Switch Releases Scrapped For "Not Complying With Nintendo Guidelines"
@HeadPirate oh please, right wing Christian nationalism hasn't had the power for censor thing since the early 2000s, lately its far left DEI that has been responsible.
But whatever the side or reason, that doesn't matter. It shouldn't be happening and this directly contradicts what Furukawa said in 2019.
Re: 'Hyperdimension Neptunia' & 'Death End' Switch Releases Scrapped For "Not Complying With Nintendo Guidelines"
@CrimsonDragoon yeah... no. A game running like ass never stopped a switch release (look at Arkham knight) I don't but that for a second.
Re: 'Hyperdimension Neptunia' & 'Death End' Switch Releases Scrapped For "Not Complying With Nintendo Guidelines"
I am shocked at this. This flies directly in the face of what Furukawa said in 2019.
I quote "Nintendo, as do 3rd-parties and their software, applies for an objective rating from 3rd-party organizations prior to release. If platform-holding companies choose arbitrarily, the diversity and fairness in game software would be significantly inhibited. We provide parental controls that can be used to apply limits."
This has to be NoA and NoE pulling some shenanigans. and I'd REALLY urge everyone who even remotely cares about freedom of expression in games to email Nintendo of Japan talking about this situation. If we can bully Nintendo of America into releasing the Operation Rainfall games in the west by being relentless, we need to do the same here. because this is simply unnaceptable.
Re: Random: Did Street Fighter 6's Next DLC Just Reference Sakurai's Famous Smash Quote? Some Fans Think So
@OstianOwl the problem was that, unlike bayonetta or even mythra, mai would require a DRASTIC change. So he figured it wasn't worth going through that just for a cameo.
Re: Random: Did Street Fighter 6's Next DLC Just Reference Sakurai's Famous Smash Quote? Some Fans Think So
@Not_Soos from what I've remeber, what he actually did was something about CERO no allowing for Mai to appear in her original look. So yes, "the good boys and girls" was a localization choice.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Questions Future Of Consoles, But Not Nintendo Hardware
if you ever needed a more obvious indicator that Nintendo won the console war.
They're the only ones of the big 3 that haven't caved to putting their software in rival platforms. they know their own value.
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Refused Classification In The West Over 'Expression Restrictions'
@RubyCarbuncle not liking the artstyle is fine, the problem is saying "The Artstyle is ugly therefore it's fine that it was rejected".
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Refused Classification In The West Over 'Expression Restrictions'
@MARl0 I just learned of the existence of Prison Princess 2 and if that's true, I'll be extremely disappointed, one of the main reasons I dropped every other major console except for Nintendo was because Furukawa was the only CEO of the Big 3 to openly denounce censorship and say in no uncertain terms that Nintendo doesn't censor third parties.
Really hope NoA isn't taking things in their own hands. I tried googling about it after reading your comment and the only "proof" I found was someone commenting "Nintendo of America and Europe are not allowing lewd games like this on their eShops anymore. Tokyo Clanpool is also not coming to the Western eShops and they directly cited this as the reason."
This is quite worrisome.
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Refused Classification In The West Over 'Expression Restrictions'
@Zaruboggan say, this might be a long shot but, is there a way you contact the devs to get clarification? if nothing else, it'd be good to have just to understand what happened here.
Re: Bullet-Hell Shmup Refused Classification In The West Over 'Expression Restrictions'
Assuming this WAS censorship, When we complain about the west becoming overly puritanical and censorious, this here is exactly what we try to warn people about.
I haven't heard of this game before and Shmups aren't my cup-o-tea, but it's ridiculous that this game gets refused classification over what seems to be just suggestive imagery and covered up cartoon boobs, while stuff like Last of Us 2 can have realistic graphic violence, full frontal nudity, and a sex scene.
People saying like "the game looks bad", or "looks mid" are entirely missing the point here.
Re: ININ Games Acquires Shenmue 3 Publishing Rights, Teases Announcement
Wasn't this really poorly received? I remember hearing it was a huge disappointment.
Re: Sonic 3 Movie Trailer Gives Shadow The Hedgehog Fans Everything They Want
Gun? check.
Maria? check.
Pissing on the moon? check.
Double Jim Carrey? check.
This movie is gonna be peak fiction.
Re: Atelier & Dynasty Warriors Publisher Looks To Expand And Focus On PC, Consoles
@stinkyx I am! though I'd be content with a Dead or Alive 5 Deluxe on Switch to hold me over. (it's probably my favorite fighting game ever made. I main La Mariposa).
Re: Atelier & Dynasty Warriors Publisher Looks To Expand And Focus On PC, Consoles
Hopefully the Switch's successor will be their priority and not the Playstation, not only does Nintendo not impose censorship regulations (which is why I STRONGLY defend that Dead or Alive should come back with the Switch as its only console), but Koei Tecmo and Nintendo have been doing some fantastic work together!
Re: Random: Guilty Gear Strive's Latest Update Apparently Censors "Inappropriate Angles"
@Carck exaclty. it's one thing to be indifferent, if you're to personally bothered by the changes, that's one thing, but to come out and attack people who are upset and actually defend the censorship is a whole 'nother thing.
Re: Random: Guilty Gear Strive's Latest Update Apparently Censors "Inappropriate Angles"
@nessisonett well mate, if you want an example of "what else are they gonna do?" look no further than Senran Kagura.
Senran Kagura Burst Renewal came out on both PS4 and PC, however, the PS4 released had to be delayed to remove a feature called "Intimacy mode" from the dress up menu (mind you, this feature was in every single Senran Kagura game after Shinovi Versus, and is present in Senran Kagura Reflexions and Peach Ball on the Switch).
Next thing that happens, due to Sony's censorship policy and an allegedly exclusivity contract, the franchise is now dead. the series creator left Marvelous and expressed in no uncertain terms that with their new regulations, it'd be impossible to make Senran Kagura 7EVEN (the next game in the franchise that was highly anticipated by fans) in its original vision.
Ever since that, SK only exists as a Mobile game thats Japanese exclusive.
So yes, they DO take a mile if you give them an inch. I'm honestly surprised they haven't covered up Baiken yet but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they did.
Re: Random: Guilty Gear Strive's Latest Update Apparently Censors "Inappropriate Angles"
I said it before and I'll say it again.
Strive is what happens when a Typically anime-style over-the-top japanese property tries to cater to the west. every design gets toned down (not just the female characters, every single design is more boring and less striking than Xrd), the colors get muted, and every edge gets sanded off. and everything that's "problematic" has to get removed.
This game is a piece of *****. I'm glad I never bought it, They didn't need to give another reason to never wanna touch it but I guess they did now. It's not like I hadn't already long lost my respect for this team.
Censoring a feature long after a game's been released so you can't refund it's a one-way ticket to guarantee I'll never buy another game by these developers again.