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@Spider-Kev I'd say it's a bit more than that, being from Brazil I've consumed a lot of American media that had to localized in Portuguese, and sometimes changes NEED to be made in the script (mainly when it comes to accents, jokes, or music lyrics, as well as, in case of voiced dialogue, making sure you match lip flaps), so there's SMALL amount of liberty that can be taken.

That being said, that's no excuse to remove content or completely alter a character's personality or lines. Localization to me is "making sure the story thr original creator wanted to tell gets conveyed in the most understandable way possible without altering its context).

@HeadPirate here's where your logic fails mate. A boob slider, and petting wouldn't make Xenoblade X or Fire Emblem M rated games. NOTHING that is removed from these games ever is the type of content that would ever raise the age rating and we know that by looking at similiar titles like the original Senran Kagura on the 3DS that was MUCH more raunchy than either of them and still had a T rating. (if it was the case like with Sakurai needing to close up Palutena's dress because of CERO age ratings, that'd be a different story). not to mention that this type of censorship DOES happen even with M rated games (like removing the lingerie outfits from Fatal Frame Maiden of Black Water). More often than not, these changes affect stuff that wouldn't change the age rating. it's just some guy in the Localization department saying "I don't find this appropriate/I don't like this".

And most of times, the original devs are probably not brought into the conversation when their content is tampered with in localization, and in cases of a Nintendo first party game, I HIGHLY doubt they are given that option.

Censorship doesn't have to be mandated by the government.

@HeadPirate That's a very good way to explain it.

I'd only add that I would consider those "localization" changes you mentioned censorship. as that's an external party, unconnected to the creative team developing the game, arbitrarily choosing to remove elements from the game. This practice was REALLY bad in the Wii U/3DS days (with Xenoblade X and Fire Emblem Fates being some of the most notorious examples), and thankfully has kinda been walk back (though, still far from ideal, as they still arbitrarily change dialogue. like not letting the Goombas hit on Goombella in Paper Mario, or changing the dialogue completely every time Rosemary mentions stuff like putting on weight in Fire Emblem Engage).

@Spider-Kev In Localization did. and not third party games. they don't have the power to dictate that, but Sadly most of the ***** responsible for that stuff are still around at Treehouse (that's why Fire Emblem Engage can't have a woman talk about her weight, and Paper Mario CAN have Trans Vivian but can't have cat-calling. of Bowser calling a minion fat.)

it's gonna flop even harder that it already was.

@Spider-Kev in the 90s. they don't do that anymore and haven't done for a VERY long time. (now it's Playstation that censors third party. and microsoft too).

@nhSnork @HeadPirate actually someone on another side raised another possibility: maybe they realized it wouldn't be good to releease the trilogy on the same week as Game Maker R Evolution, so they could've done this to avoid the two games canibalizing each other's sales.

@nhSnork not to mention, the Switch has games like Omega Labyrith and Seven Pirates, both which include massaging boobs to make them bigger or smaller to get stats.

AND games like Waifu Discovered that have full on uncensored nipples. ANIME nipples, the type that Sony hates.

@AllieKitsune yes it does. it's a weird double standard to think one form of censorship is okay but another isn't.

I don't mind the Vivian thing, in fact, I appreciate that it's now closer to what the original Japanese version. what I don't like is the idea that of being faithful there, but then removing other lines of dialogue intended to be comedic because you find those offensive or something.

I kinda want to know how much of thr fialogue got censored. I was already annoyed when I saw they took out thr goombas hitting on goombella and Bowser calling on of his minions fat.

@HeadPirate i don't think that's the case (at least . Nintendo had been the only one of the big 3 to not censor third parties. Wi5h Furukawa even going on record condemning censorship. (And the switch getting uncensored versions of many games that get censored on playstation).

I'm guessing this might be some type of issue ok the publisher side.

Unless there's a patch changing the localization, I'm not picking this up.

@Trikeboy how hard is it to grasp that Censorship AS A CONCEPT is a bad thing?

we've already seen where this road leads with Sony.
when they moved the Playstation HQ from Japan to California, they started enforcing heavy censorship of sexual content in games, but ONLY affected Japanese games, it started with graphical changes here and there, but eventually resulted in killing the Senran Kagura franchise because, as the creator of the series said himself "It would've been impossible to release the original vision of the game with the current regulations"). MIND YOU, many of the games that had been censored didn't even feature frontal nudity (as that's not even allowed in japan due to the law) and many had already been rated and approved by the ESBR and equivalent Age-Rating boards and released in their original state in other platforms including the Switch.

Another example is what happened with Skull Girls, a game that used its sex-appeal as part of it's identity (down to the point they had Zone, an actual pr0n Animator invited to work on the game), suddenly releasing an update that removed much of its original art making it completely inaccessible (Including in a digital artbook). and you can't even get a refund if you disagree with these alterations to a product you bought and had no say in.

It'd be one thing if they made these changes an optional toggle. that way, you actually treat your costumers like adults and let them chose for themselves what they deem appropriate, but It's really disheartening to see people with this sheepish "eh, the thing being censored isn't something I like so who cares?" mentality.

and just like that, these scumbags have guaranteed I will not only not buy this game, but NOTHING from that company. Censoring a game through a patch is unacceptable.

Well, when you're writing team despises the source material and your star who wanted to make a faithful adaptation leaves because of it, it's no surprise it's gonna end just like that.

@silver-crescent Witcher 3 is on switch, so it's related in that way.

@Rozetta I can see that explaining why the absolutely destroyed the female character model and made her look like a dude.

I'll have to wait and see. I'm glad he likes the Vita (cuz Sony absolutely shat on suck a great console), I'm just always gonna be skeptical about someone coming to Nintendo from Sony. I already have my issues with the Localizers on NoA, and seeing what Sony has become in the current generation, the last thing I want is to Nintendo to become like them.

Honestly, if they play their cards right and stay humble (as in, not sh*ting on fans and actually giving people what they wanna see), there's definetly potential!

@Serpenterror I was actually wondering if they'll have Toyotaro step u as the new character designer, since he was basically being prepared to be Toriyama's successor with Dragon Ball Super.

there's something funny about seeing Hogwarts castle right next to the DK area.

my Man's really looking Rougher than the rest of 'em!

@Anti-Matter mate, considering Jegf has already revealed that the movie is based on SA2 and Shadow the Hedgehog. And that the actress for Maria made that joke of taking a photo with the backwards hoodie looking like a body bag. This might not be for you (though it's exactly what most fans want and I can't wait to see it).

That's a good attitude to have.
Certainly better than Fallout's director saying "trying to please fans is a fool's errand".

I'm in a bind here, the game DOES look interesting, but I was seeing some examples of the changes made in localization and... well, let's just say I'm not impressed.

@Old-Red they kinda did something very subtle and clever. This show was announced along with the third movie.

Means they announced Sonic 3... and Knuckles.

Awesome. Seems like the series will be longer than Knuckles's four headed--

man, I remember following the development of this game.

Warren Spector wanted to go a lot darker with much more interesting ideas but Disney chickened out.

I might give this a go. first person game aren't usually my cup o' tea, but I heard good things.
(also I remember this non-drama where some website was complaining that there were no black people in this game, even though it's supposed to take place in 15th-century Bohemia and made by as the very first project from a Czech Studio that wanted to depict an historically accurate representation of their own culture).

The new content look interesting, and the Narrative in the original was kinda weak, so I'm hoping there's enough new content to justify getting this version.

@NatiaAdamo the PG 13 rating been confirmed I believe

@WaffleRaptor01 that's my issue with that is, it's a bonus costume, Lego Sonic and the Prototype Bunny design aren't really "lore accurate" either, but nobody bats an eye.

I cannot put into words how much I hate this.

they could've made a "Classic Shadow" model. everyone would've liked that. instead we get this abomination.

@abbyhitter it means there's a lot of public interest and good will towards the series. I'd day it shows how well received the Sonic Movie franchise has been. Which is something worth celebrating specially when you consider the history of video game adaptations and how little faith everyone had in this because of the of the original movie design.

@Greatluigi to be fair, that's is how Idris Elba announced himself as Knuckles, so it's been done already. (He tweeted "knock knock" with a picture of Knuckles's fist).

let's face it, if Nintendo feels bothered by Palworld, that's a good thing. means they'll have to make their games better. Pokemon never really had serious competition.

Great news all around, Jim Carrey is back, We can hear Live and Learn in thr teaser, and as for thr other actors I don't know hwo most of them will play, but considering Alyla Browne is a 14 year old blonde girl, I bet my pancreas she's gonna be playing Maria.

If the people being layer off are developers, I hope they can land on their feet and find new work soon.

But if they're in the localization team, after that interview came out about how the new Yakuza Devs go to western teams to ask what is appropriate to put in their games instead of of just doing what is appropriate for their own culture, I say good riddance and I hope they leave this industry altogether.

@Quiet2down Yeah, I could've explained that better. The issue with the OC is that he was simply not interesting. when you have a franchise full of characters people care about but opt for a new guy to be your anchor to the story, you gotta make damn sure that he's captivating. and Cole simply wasn't. he was as generic as they come. They could've made him interesting through his connection with Scorpion, but not even that.

@Kr96 personally, I'd rather deal with typos and odd phrases over completely changing what the characters say.

No playstation release means no censorship (other than the sex scenes of course).

considering we're also getting Tsukihime this year, it's a good year for Type-Moon Enjoyers.

Honestly, I'm a bit baffled by this. I see nothing that the switch couldn't run.

First one was oaky, but kinda meh. it's biggest disservice was the unbelievably stupid idea of making an OC for a protagonist with a literal Plot Armor for a power.

@Vyacheslav333 these seem to be specially bad with the zoomed slang.

From what I hear, they're great games with god-awful localization.

I hope they bring back the Xenoblade icons, I was busy all week when they had the Xenoblade 2 ones up and I completely forgot to check for them.

Yeah, to be honest Kieran is the best developed rival we've had probably ever. I only played a few pokemon games (Gale of Darkness, Sun/Moon, Sword/Shield, Legends Arceus), and his arc was one of the most interesting aspects of the story. He was better than a guy who's haply to battle you or someone who's a jerk for the sake of it.

@Crono1973 yeah... I can believe that what happened was the result of negligence and not malicious intent, and he could've salvaged some of his image had he just humbled himself by admitting his mistakes. But him getting visibly angry and threatening the lawsuit really squandered that possibility.

@Snatcher I think the issue with Hogwarts wasn't even that it didn't win, but it was that it's existence wasn't even acknowledged. Love or hate J.K. Rowling, you can't deny it was one of the biggest games of the year and it merited being at least a nominee in some categories. It's not a stretch to believe that it was ignored because some people can't stand J.K.'s views.

I read the title and ask
"only this year?"

Seriously, if it wasn't obvious before that this show is a farce, 2019's "The Last of Us 2 Awards" should've made that crystal clear that they're nothing but bought and paid for.
That's not the only issue of course, the incessant celebrity guests that had little to nothing to do with gaming, the constant ads. the fact that many of the winners are just glossed over by the host just saying who won then moving on. I guess it took the blatant disrespect shown to the devs who actually got attempt making speeches after winning for people to see this stupidity for what it is.

The only thing that kept me watching it in the years I did was the possibility of a Smash character reveal.