@GamingGod I wasn't particularly interested in diving deeper into the handheld angle. If you didn't get it then, chances of me helping you get it with further elaboration is about zero - particularly due to your earlier arguments being without merit.
There's no argument for requiring a 120hz vrr OLED screen when even £1000+ handheld gaming PCs don't even have OLED. You've also made a wild claim about £100 Nintendo controllers earlier.
And being in this site means I've seen the "sales have fallen off a cliff" line for the Switch and now the Switch 2 for more than 8 years now. It's old, it's boring, it's false, and it's been argued to death.
@GamingGod there are no oled screens with the same minimum spec as the Switch 2 on any handheld under £1000 to my knowledge. Not even the £1700++ GPD WIN 5 Gaming Handheld PC has an oled screen. Unless I'm mistaken, The ps vita also didn't have 120hz vrr.
Gaming companies have worked out that 120hz vrr is more important than an oled screen and that it's not yet cost effective to an oled version with those minimum specs.
@WiltonRoots Ultimately, a small but loud section of gamers want a better than PS5-level gaming handheld with an OLED screen at the same size or smaller than the Switch 2 with a minimum battery life of the Switch 1 v2 and minimum 512GB onboard memory all for under £350
@GamingGod Since when has the controller been £100? There also aren't any OLED screens on gaming handhelds under £1000 to my knowledge. Heck, the top range Rog Ally Xbox X doesn't have oled either so it's a weird complaint
@MoldyPasta never mind the fact that there are exactly zero handheld gaming consoles under £400 that can compete with the PS5 in performance and power. Robin seems to have wanted magic to happen in the handheld technology side.
@Metaphor1987 so you're saying they should have released a version of the game for each language so instead of producing 1 card they have to produce 5+ versions and estimate the numbers for each version plus the additional logistics planning and time to distribute? I don't think you've thought this through. And, this assumes that your idea is theoretically possible - console versions tend to be different to pc versions so comparing with Steam is a poor idea
@SalvorHardin 😳🙄 I either missed or forgot about that post.
I feel the modern obsession in gaming media and a section of gamers for '60fps or bust' is detrimental to gaming overall as I feel that games are so much more than just pixels.
@DominionGamma I think we'd all have loved it beefed up more at the same price but this is still the most powerful handheld at its price.
There are more powerful handheld gaming PCs of course but they cost more at launch.
You're also forgetting that more power equals more power consumption equals needing a larger battery equals needing the unit to be larger equals which leads to increased complaints about weight. Ppl already complain about both the battery life, the size and the weight.
@swedetrap I still remain surprised by the number of loud comments online who expected PS5 level performance for the Switch 2 and won't play anything under 1080p 60fps.
@AceTrainerBloke buying digital to avoid buying a key card is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Unless you're choosing to pay for digital convenience of not needing insert the card when choosing to play. At least with the key card you can sell it later
@Kilroy not every corporate lead needs to be loud/outspoken and shout about what they've done though I accept that it's harder for us to figure out whether he had a positive influence or not
@WiltonRoots hah! Certainly feels like some here would race to be part of that effort... Also feels like some here champion communism but that's a whole other can of worms
@alwaysasn "But her introduction made her seem like she knew nothing of the medium." I feel she chose to focus on things other than herself for this video and her gamer creds are in the subtext if the third paragraph. It's for an external awards event after all, not a Nintendo one.
Age of Imprisonment is an excellently crafted musou game and the latest Update to add violent enemies and a new forbidden difficulty does a lot to help with farming weapon upgrade materials. Completed the game and now working through the forbidden difficulty level for every story and challenge stage
@shoeses Companies put games on sale to boost sales. Nintendo doesn't need to do that and, more importantly, EVERY sale conditions customers to value your game at that lower price. It's always easy to drop prices and always hard to raise them later. Nintendo is adamant against devaluing their games.
"we saw a lot of comments on the internet saying ‘we want to play an open-world Metroid'" is more of Nintendo listening to fan feedback and less of Nintendo following open world trends
@GoldenSunRM That's not actually true. Unless your particular country has specific laws mandating that. Stores generally don't have to sell you an item that's been mispriced. They can choose to honour it but that's very different from them being required to sell you an item at an unintentional loss to themselves.
@Moistnado not sure how it's not clear that Cyberpunk 2077 on the Switch 2 includes the DLC at that price while the Steam version you reference doesn't.
@LightSpirit but lastfootnote got value out of it. You obviously didn't. How can he be wrong and you right? Especially if you haven't gotten the dlc yet?
@RumandCohibas Didn't Nintendo just discount some of their games last month? Xenoblade 3 was definitely on sale as well as Zelda Echoes of Wisdom. Discounts on games like Mario Odyssey tend to happen only about 2 times a year.
@Anti-Matter to a very large extent, Southeast Asia is PlayStation land. The purchasing power there has been so low for decades that piracy flourished for a very long time. I believe that drove PS1 and PS2 sales across the region and conditioned customers those days to expect 50 to 100 games with every console purchase. Nobody really wanted to sell or buy a GameCube or N64 and only buy 1 game for them...
@MamaSymphonia that's because it probably wasn't locked/developed to 30fps on ps5 or the PC.
If a PS4 game was developed to a locked 30fps and there was backwards compatibility for it on the PS5, there's no button for it to instantly play at 60fps. Ppl have to do some work and perhaps fix bugs created by the increased frame rate.
Case in point, lasers in Totk on the Switch 2 cause more damage compared to the Switch 1 just because of the increased frame rate.
And yeah, it does affect Nintendo's recent consoles more 🤷🏻♂️. Absolutely no arguement there. The benefit of gaming on a PC is that most things aren't locked to a specific target. I think there are some games where no amount of extra power will make a jot of difference but I can't yet think of any. Or perhaps I could be totally wrong about that
I'm just saying that even the mod will likely mean having a console design to fit a larger battery which in turn increases size and weight, not just the cost. You may have to deal with increased heat from the larger battery and design for that though, which may mean increased power consumption from fans etc which leads to less real battery life gains from the larger battery. Doubt the trade offs were worth it at launch. Looking forward to the revised model which improves battery life
@Filthy presenting objective reality is being seeing as trolling? There are costs and trade offs to everything, especially on a handheld. I'd prefer more battery life too but even the top end new Xbox ally x has similar battery life.
Battery technology hasn't improved that much in recent years and as far as I've read, has largely stagnated.
@Filthy Feels like you have unrealistic expectations for battery life and unrealistic ways to achieve better battery life.
The Switch 2's battery life is currently comparable with other performance-focused handhelds and is on par with the OG Switch. If there was a more efficient chipset during the planning and procurement phase that didn't cost more, there's no reason why they wouldn't use it.
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Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@WiltonRoots 😁 perhaps he belongs more in the Playstation site
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@GamingGod I wasn't particularly interested in diving deeper into the handheld angle. If you didn't get it then, chances of me helping you get it with further elaboration is about zero - particularly due to your earlier arguments being without merit.
There's no argument for requiring a 120hz vrr OLED screen when even £1000+ handheld gaming PCs don't even have OLED. You've also made a wild claim about £100 Nintendo controllers earlier.
And being in this site means I've seen the "sales have fallen off a cliff" line for the Switch and now the Switch 2 for more than 8 years now. It's old, it's boring, it's false, and it's been argued to death.
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@GamingGod one is portable, the other isn't.
Bit surprised you're trying to claim 'sales fell off a cliff' in a comment thread about healthy sales
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@GamingGod there are no oled screens with the same minimum spec as the Switch 2 on any handheld under £1000 to my knowledge. Not even the £1700++ GPD WIN 5 Gaming Handheld PC has an oled screen. Unless I'm mistaken, The ps vita also didn't have 120hz vrr.
Gaming companies have worked out that 120hz vrr is more important than an oled screen and that it's not yet cost effective to an oled version with those minimum specs.
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@WiltonRoots Ultimately, a small but loud section of gamers want a better than PS5-level gaming handheld with an OLED screen at the same size or smaller than the Switch 2 with a minimum battery life of the Switch 1 v2 and minimum 512GB onboard memory all for under £350
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@WiltonRoots crazies 😄 who hate portable gaming
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@GamingGod Since when has the controller been £100? There also aren't any OLED screens on gaming handhelds under £1000 to my knowledge. Heck, the top range Rog Ally Xbox X doesn't have oled either so it's a weird complaint
Re: Switch 2 Remains The Fastest-Selling Console In The US At 4.4 Million Units
@MoldyPasta never mind the fact that there are exactly zero handheld gaming consoles under £400 that can compete with the PS5 in performance and power. Robin seems to have wanted magic to happen in the handheld technology side.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade On Switch 2
@BloodWolfe it can't fit
Re: Review: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - A Big, Bold Reimagining, And A First-Class Port
@purple_shyguy for a £400 home console your complaint might have legs. For a handheld that costs under £400? Terrible take
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@Metaphor1987 so you're saying they should have released a version of the game for each language so instead of producing 1 card they have to produce 5+ versions and estimate the numbers for each version plus the additional logistics planning and time to distribute? I don't think you've thought this through. And, this assumes that your idea is theoretically possible - console versions tend to be different to pc versions so comparing with Steam is a poor idea
Re: Review: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - A Big, Bold Reimagining, And A First-Class Port
@Serpenterror perhaps a bit harsh on both points. It's been argued to death but It can't fit on a card in the first place
Re: Review: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - A Big, Bold Reimagining, And A First-Class Port
@SurprisedRobinChu and since 30fps is perfectly playable and my pc weighs over 10kg, I'll play it on the Switch 2
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@LastFootnote corporate greed is such a bore 😴
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@SalvorHardin 😳🙄 I either missed or forgot about that post.
I feel the modern obsession in gaming media and a section of gamers for '60fps or bust' is detrimental to gaming overall as I feel that games are so much more than just pixels.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@DominionGamma I think we'd all have loved it beefed up more at the same price but this is still the most powerful handheld at its price.
There are more powerful handheld gaming PCs of course but they cost more at launch.
You're also forgetting that more power equals more power consumption equals needing a larger battery equals needing the unit to be larger equals which leads to increased complaints about weight. Ppl already complain about both the battery life, the size and the weight.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@dskatter 😄😎 yeah true! It certainly could fit in a 64gb card that way!
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@swedetrap I still remain surprised by the number of loud comments online who expected PS5 level performance for the Switch 2 and won't play anything under 1080p 60fps.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Final Fantasy VII Remake On Switch 2
@dskatter there's many who still sincerely believe this game could be optimised to fit a 64gb card. Of course, none work in gaming
Re: Review: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - A Big, Bold Reimagining, And A First-Class Port
@AceTrainerBloke buying digital to avoid buying a key card is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Unless you're choosing to pay for digital convenience of not needing insert the card when choosing to play. At least with the key card you can sell it later
Re: Review: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - A Big, Bold Reimagining, And A First-Class Port
@WhiteTrashGuy you can reasonably easily get the preorder in the UK for about £33ish
Re: Former Nintendo Of America President Doug Bowser Joins Hasbro's Board Of Directors
@Kilroy not every corporate lead needs to be loud/outspoken and shout about what they've done though I accept that it's harder for us to figure out whether he had a positive influence or not
Re: "I'm Excited To Meet You" - Devon Pritchard Makes Her First Public Appearance As President Of NoA
@WiltonRoots hah! Certainly feels like some here would race to be part of that effort... Also feels like some here champion communism but that's a whole other can of worms
Re: "I'm Excited To Meet You" - Devon Pritchard Makes Her First Public Appearance As President Of NoA
@koopababble I've worked with COOs. None of them act that way 😏
Re: Former Nintendo Of America President Doug Bowser Joins Hasbro's Board Of Directors
Way too many ppl seem to think that only outspoken leaders have done stuff
Re: "I'm Excited To Meet You" - Devon Pritchard Makes Her First Public Appearance As President Of NoA
@FrenchVaniIIuxe What's wrong
Re: "I'm Excited To Meet You" - Devon Pritchard Makes Her First Public Appearance As President Of NoA
@alwaysasn "But her introduction made her seem like she knew nothing of the medium." I feel she chose to focus on things other than herself for this video and her gamer creds are in the subtext if the third paragraph. It's for an external awards event after all, not a Nintendo one.
Re: Nintendo Denies Using AI Images In New 'My Mario' Marketing
So many ppl swearing this is AI now having to backpedal....
Re: "Let's Make It!" - Nintendo And Koei Tecmo On The Genesis Of Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
Age of Imprisonment is an excellently crafted musou game and the latest Update to add violent enemies and a new forbidden difficulty does a lot to help with farming weapon upgrade materials. Completed the game and now working through the forbidden difficulty level for every story and challenge stage
Re: UK Charts: Nintendo Holds 12 Spots In The All-Formats Top 40
@Gabe250 I think he thinks any game under 80 on metacritic isn't worth playing. I recall a time when gamers were against metacritic
Re: Mailbox: 'Greedy' Nintendo, New Horizons Vs. New Leaf, Boney M. - Nintendo Life Letters (Holiday Edition)
@shoeses Companies put games on sale to boost sales. Nintendo doesn't need to do that and, more importantly, EVERY sale conditions customers to value your game at that lower price. It's always easy to drop prices and always hard to raise them later. Nintendo is adamant against devaluing their games.
Re: Nintendo Suggests Metroid Prime 4's Tortured Development Meant It Was "Divorced From The Changing Of Times"
"we saw a lot of comments on the internet saying ‘we want to play an open-world Metroid'" is more of Nintendo listening to fan feedback and less of Nintendo following open world trends
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Massive Switch 2 eShop Discount Was An "Error"
@GoldenSunRM That's not actually true. Unless your particular country has specific laws mandating that. Stores generally don't have to sell you an item that's been mispriced. They can choose to honour it but that's very different from them being required to sell you an item at an unintentional loss to themselves.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Massive Switch 2 eShop Discount Was An "Error"
@Moistnado not sure how it's not clear that Cyberpunk 2077 on the Switch 2 includes the DLC at that price while the Steam version you reference doesn't.
Re: UK Charts: Nintendo Performs Admirably In Its Last Christmas Push
@KingChiliPepper your experience perfectly illustrates why it's futile to use our own experiences to judge the state of the industry 😄
Re: Donkey Kong Bananza Has Been Updated To Version 3.0.0, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@LightSpirit but lastfootnote got value out of it. You obviously didn't. How can he be wrong and you right? Especially if you haven't gotten the dlc yet?
Re: 100 Switch 1 & 2 Games To Check Out In Nintendo's Holiday eShop Sale (UK)
@RumandCohibas Didn't Nintendo just discount some of their games last month? Xenoblade 3 was definitely on sale as well as Zelda Echoes of Wisdom. Discounts on games like Mario Odyssey tend to happen only about 2 times a year.
Re: Japanese Charts: Switch 2 And Mario Kart World Continue To Obliterate The Competition
@Anti-Matter to a very large extent, Southeast Asia is PlayStation land. The purchasing power there has been so low for decades that piracy flourished for a very long time. I believe that drove PS1 and PS2 sales across the region and conditioned customers those days to expect 50 to 100 games with every console purchase. Nobody really wanted to sell or buy a GameCube or N64 and only buy 1 game for them...
Re: Factorio - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Announced, Free Upgrade For Existing Owners
Looking forward to this update!
Re: Divinity: Original Sin 2 Gets Surprise Nintendo Switch 2 Edition, And It's Out Now
@Fiq_Strife only problem is ppl will complain if BG3 doesn't launch at the lowest price it's ever sold for
Re: Talking Point: Six Months Since Launch, How Would You Rate Switch 2?
@Red_Silurian trolling question
Re: Stop Motion Co-Op Adventure 'Out Of Words' Confirmed For Switch 2
I love stop motion and I love words. Possibly an instant buy
Re: Surprise! 'Skyrim Anniversary Edition' Lands On Switch 2 Today
@MamaSymphonia that's because it probably wasn't locked/developed to 30fps on ps5 or the PC.
If a PS4 game was developed to a locked 30fps and there was backwards compatibility for it on the PS5, there's no button for it to instantly play at 60fps. Ppl have to do some work and perhaps fix bugs created by the increased frame rate.
Case in point, lasers in Totk on the Switch 2 cause more damage compared to the Switch 1 just because of the increased frame rate.
And yeah, it does affect Nintendo's recent consoles more 🤷🏻♂️. Absolutely no arguement there. The benefit of gaming on a PC is that most things aren't locked to a specific target. I think there are some games where no amount of extra power will make a jot of difference but I can't yet think of any. Or perhaps I could be totally wrong about that
Re: Surprise! 'Skyrim Anniversary Edition' Lands On Switch 2 Today
@MamaSymphonia games don't get magically unlocked to 60 FPS when the original was developed to 30fps
Re: Surprise! 'Skyrim Anniversary Edition' Lands On Switch 2 Today
@cedarhyped gamers like to treat games as if they depreciate like cars and become worthless after x years
Re: Talking Point: Six Months Since Launch, How Would You Rate Switch 2?
@SpecG081 think you've bought the wrong console. The only handheld that seems to achieve what you want is a £1000+ handheld gaming pc.
Hope you end up with better playing experiences either way. I suggest you sell off your Switch 2 and to fund that handheld gaming pc
Re: Talking Point: Six Months Since Launch, How Would You Rate Switch 2?
@Filthy we are in agreement. 🤝
I'm just saying that even the mod will likely mean having a console design to fit a larger battery which in turn increases size and weight, not just the cost. You may have to deal with increased heat from the larger battery and design for that though, which may mean increased power consumption from fans etc which leads to less real battery life gains from the larger battery. Doubt the trade offs were worth it at launch. Looking forward to the revised model which improves battery life
Re: Talking Point: Six Months Since Launch, How Would You Rate Switch 2?
@Filthy presenting objective reality is being seeing as trolling? There are costs and trade offs to everything, especially on a handheld. I'd prefer more battery life too but even the top end new Xbox ally x has similar battery life.
Battery technology hasn't improved that much in recent years and as far as I've read, has largely stagnated.
Re: Talking Point: Six Months Since Launch, How Would You Rate Switch 2?
@Filthy Feels like you have unrealistic expectations for battery life and unrealistic ways to achieve better battery life.
The Switch 2's battery life is currently comparable with other performance-focused handhelds and is on par with the OG Switch. If there was a more efficient chipset during the planning and procurement phase that didn't cost more, there's no reason why they wouldn't use it.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers A Tech Analysis Of Assassin's Creed Shadows On Switch 2
@wizzgamer I'm honestly surprised there are people expecting a portable PS5 at under $500