@contractcooker Only for Yosher because - will never sell on / trade / giveaway / lend games. So, none of the benefits of GKCs over digital will apply.
@Serpenterror I personally don't think people who pirate need particular reasons to justify piracy. There'll always be a reason that makes perfect sense to the person pirating a game and those reasons are never-ending.
Complain enough about GKCs and you get code-in-a-box. Complain about code-in-a-box, you get a digital-only release. Complain more, get a Cloud-version or no release at all.
@EVIL-C and yet you can STILL redownload games you've already purchased on Nintendo consoles. To date, Nintendo has not stopped that service (and it's been almost 20 years since the Wii launched).
You're confusing eshop closure for new purchases with losing the ability to redownload games. My 30+ years comes from knowing that: 1. Wii redownloads are still possible nearly 20 years later.
2. Any closures for even redownloading games will follow this sequence without exception - Wii > Wii U > Switch > Switch 2.
3. Server technologies and management would have improved in the past 2 decades and so would have Nintendo's maintenance and support team and processes. Remember, the Wii was their first proper internet enabled console (even allowing for things like the DSi).
It could theoretically be faster than 30 years, but based on the above, that's highly unlikely
@KraftMicahCheese you're gonna have to come up with a more original trolling line since leaks affect every company whether they're worth more than a billion dollars or whether they're worth less
@KraftMicahCheese would've gotten pirated and leaked even if the previous release was just last year. Attempting to shift the blame away from those pirating and leaking the game is just, well, interesting behaviour.
@kmtrain83 yeah the charts are physical only. I imagine the RE PC sales were due to pent up demand from the physical version being out of stock close to launch but that's a really wild guess from me
@WiltonRoots all this fuss about game key cards make me think that Xbox and PS physical games are all playable directly from the disc. Learnt that they still needed to be installed before playing
@FishDude Hmmm I don't know the answer to that - good for those of us in the UK who often seem to have to pay more than the USD price for games.
I can't speak for the price in Japan other than reflecting that Bananza costs around £35 for the digital version from Amazon Japan after conversion and that price is quite a bit lower than the digital price in the UK
@Fulgor_Astral I assume that without game key cards, this game would never get released in a physical format for the Nintendo switch 2. We'd only get a digital or code in box release
This will probably be a game key card release but I'm happy that it means previous Cloud games can launch properly on the Switch 2.
I'm not looking forward to all the inevitable, unreasonable comments around pricing - "it was released free on Epic Games and Amazon Prime Gaming - so I'm not paying more than £5 (insert other low number here) for the Switch 2 version" - or "that's terrible pricing for an 5 year old game - it's on sale now for £8.24 so it should launch at £10" because people think ports are easy/free/copy pasta jobs
@StorminNorman not sure if others know too but a 64GB card never has that amount available. I think it can differ slightly by manufacturer but it's likely around 58 or 59GB of actual capacity.
@WiltonRoots I'm surprised people STILL evidently believe Nintendo sets 3rd party pricing. Or at least that's what I choose to think because the alternative is that they're deliberately trolling and should be dealt with as per the community rules
@Zeeba @Cathalm this assumption that game key cards all crash in price is quite false. Outside of those 2 outliers you've mentioned, the 2nd hand and new prices haven't crashed for many many many game key cards.
@zeeba game key cards sell quite easily on eBay and other selling platforms. A quick search shows over 90 eBay sales of AC Shadows in used condition in like a month in the UK with a selling price of around £33++. Others just don't care that much and value still being to resell games.
Why are so many people, including Nintendo Life, calling Ocarina of Time 3DS a remake when it's really a remaster and I think even Nintendo calls it a remaster rather than a remake. I'm confused.
Saying profit margins improve over time feels slightly simplistic, I mean, that's generally what's taught in microeconomics but there are plenty of other factors to consider when it comes to margins.
@Falien You might personally pay $90 but I can already visualise 1000 articles and YouTube videos criticising the approach, especially if it's published by a 'big corpo' (probably worse if it's from Nintendo)
@HugoGED The physical price is also double their eshop launch price. There's no guarantee that other publishers pricing physical releases with a similar markup won't generate more complaints about 'greedy publishers'.
There's still time for people to claim that Silver Lining is being 'greedy' and 'anti-consumer' with this release and the price markup. It's also been on sale for £18 a couple of times on the eshop. So people who usually complain about port pricing may pounce on the cost of this physical release being over double the cheapest price it's ever been at.
@flighty @JohnnyMind I feel I should point out that the cost of a mid-level gaming PC is much higher (especially now) compared against a console. It's theoretically possible to get one that's relatively affordable but I feel it requires things like self-assembly, finding a way to get Windows cheaply, etc. I've assembled my own one to maximise my budget but not everyone has the desire to do so.
I also completely acknowledge that PC gaming can be a very cheap exercise (especially factoring free giveaways from various sites) but it's also not always consistent because the pricing approach is dependant on publishers. Some do deep discounts, some don't, and some only do for specific games/franchises. We can pick and choose examples all day long and it won't be very productive.
I love the Koei series but I've never seen any of the Nobunaga's Ambition or Romance of the Three Kingdoms games deeply discounted. So I've never seriously considered buying on PC since it's a sunk cost - I'd happily buy a physical release on console (in my case, the Switch)
My main takeaway from your list to Johnny is that the eshop prices, while slightly higher, are very competitive against PC prices with only a dollar or two difference.
@gcunit I'm trying to figure out /confirm whether the platform split is based on lifetime sales or whether it is based on the sales for that week. It makes more sense for it to be the latter but it's equally possible for it to be the former.
@Peach64 Odd. Mario Odyssey gets discounted about 2 times a year. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the same. I know there are a handful of games that are about once every couple of years rather than annually - like Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild (this had like an annual discount for a few years but seems irregular now)
@RumandCohibas and yet they still sell at the prices they set. That's neither anti consumer nor greedy. Basic business economics - you try to price at the sweet spot where supply and demand intersect.
@flighty And that's why videogames have been devalued to the extent that all the money has be made within like the first 6 months of release and games are expected to be practically free after like 5+ years - I personally don't even need to think about buying PC games since Epic and Amazon and GOG keep giving games away and have only bought a couple of GOG games over the past 7 years (which I could've waited on since one I bought 6 months ago, Phantasie, was in the March 2026 Amazon Prime Gaming giveaway).
I don't think the non-Nintendo pricing strategy is sustainable, particularly with the average cost of game development. It may not be the worst problem but I don't think it's far off.
Nintendo's 'long tail' sales for most of their games remains an enviable thing for other publishers.
@ChaosAzeroth that Bloomberg article you reference is probably wrong. Another group did some digging and believe that Bloomberg based their production estimates on Foxconn revenue
@DonnieTACO for so many of the Switch 1 years we also had people here and elsewhere requesting for a screen-free version for those who only play docked. Counter intuitive to whole essence of the Switch
@electrolite77 I'm reasonably convinced, by the tone and content of some of the negative comments here, that they think these are the only first party games for the whole of 2026.
They also read the title excluding the word 'includes' "Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario".
I also notice many think OoT 3DS was a remake instead of the remaster that it was. Then again, that's probably quibbling a minor point when the root is likely that they want new games and if there is a remake then they want it to be for a Zelda game that hasn't had a remaster or a remake yet
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Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Pragmata On Switch 2
Have my game rental already dispatched to me - looking forward to trying it out! #anticipationgrows
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption May Be Getting A Rubbish 'Code-In-A-Box' Release
@contractcooker Only for Yosher because - will never sell on / trade / giveaway / lend games. So, none of the benefits of GKCs over digital will apply.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption May Be Getting A Rubbish 'Code-In-A-Box' Release
@TheRazor I edited my comment a few seconds after posting to also factor in an option that effectively translates to 'heck no'
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption May Be Getting A Rubbish 'Code-In-A-Box' Release
@Serpenterror I personally don't think people who pirate need particular reasons to justify piracy. There'll always be a reason that makes perfect sense to the person pirating a game and those reasons are never-ending.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption May Be Getting A Rubbish 'Code-In-A-Box' Release
Complain enough about GKCs and you get code-in-a-box. Complain about code-in-a-box, you get a digital-only release. Complain more, get a Cloud-version or no release at all.
Re: Nintendo To Change Pricing For Digital & Physical Switch 2 Exclusives, Starting With Yoshi
@FishDude oh I only looked at the UK MSRP (from the Nintendo store) not Japan's. Your explanation for the price difference seems the most plausible
Re: Random: Borderlands 4 Physical Switch 2 Version Apparently Surfaces In The Wild
@EVIL-C and yet you can STILL redownload games you've already purchased on Nintendo consoles. To date, Nintendo has not stopped that service (and it's been almost 20 years since the Wii launched).
You're confusing eshop closure for new purchases with losing the ability to redownload games. My 30+ years comes from knowing that:
1. Wii redownloads are still possible nearly 20 years later.
2. Any closures for even redownloading games will follow this sequence without exception - Wii > Wii U > Switch > Switch 2.
3. Server technologies and management would have improved in the past 2 decades and so would have Nintendo's maintenance and support team and processes. Remember, the Wii was their first proper internet enabled console (even allowing for things like the DSi).
It could theoretically be faster than 30 years, but based on the above, that's highly unlikely
Re: Random: Borderlands 4 Physical Switch 2 Version Apparently Surfaces In The Wild
@EVIL-C that ' future is over 30 years away
Re: PSA: Tomodachi Life: Living The Dream Has Apparently Leaked Online
@KraftMicahCheese you're gonna have to come up with a more original trolling line since leaks affect every company whether they're worth more than a billion dollars or whether they're worth less
Plus you're still excusing leaks.
Re: PSA: Tomodachi Life: Living The Dream Has Apparently Leaked Online
@KraftMicahCheese would've gotten pirated and leaked even if the previous release was just last year. Attempting to shift the blame away from those pirating and leaking the game is just, well, interesting behaviour.
Re: UK Charts: Pokémon Pokopia Is Starting To Prove Its Staying Power
@kmtrain83 yeah the charts are physical only. I imagine the RE PC sales were due to pent up demand from the physical version being out of stock close to launch but that's a really wild guess from me
Re: Review: Pragmata (Switch 2) - A Dazzling Puzzle-Shooter Driven By A Heartfelt Friendship
@Ganon821 think you posted this comment on the wrong site as it seemed that you meant to post it on PushSquare
Re: UK Charts: Pokémon Pokopia Is Starting To Prove Its Staying Power
@larryisaman Mortal Kombat 1
PS5 99%, Xbox 1%, Switch 0% - woah
Re: UK Charts: Pokémon Pokopia Is Starting To Prove Its Staying Power
@TrogdorTheBurninator Quite surprising to see RE PC physical sales for the week reach almost 60% of total sales
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@WiltonRoots all this fuss about game key cards make me think that Xbox and PS physical games are all playable directly from the disc. Learnt that they still needed to be installed before playing
Re: Nintendo To Change Pricing For Digital & Physical Switch 2 Exclusives, Starting With Yoshi
@FishDude Hmmm I don't know the answer to that - good for those of us in the UK who often seem to have to pay more than the USD price for games.
I can't speak for the price in Japan other than reflecting that Bananza costs around £35 for the digital version from Amazon Japan after conversion and that price is quite a bit lower than the digital price in the UK
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@WiltonRoots And if it didn't launch on the Switch 2 then it's 'another example of the Switch 2 lacking in big games'
Re: Mouse: P.I. For Hire Switch 2 Performance And Resolution Revealed
I know this article is focused on performance but I'm also keen to know the gameplay
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@Ske-ske-Skeleton great. Though not the same release or quality or with the dlc included. And definitely not portable
Re: Review: South Of Midnight (Switch 2) - A Port That Compromises What This Enjoyable Game Did Best
@CaleBoi25 you mean the author's name isn't showing on your screen?
Re: Another Switch 1 Release Might Be Ditching The "Cloud Version" Label On Switch 2
@Fulgor_Astral I assume that without game key cards, this game would never get released in a physical format for the Nintendo switch 2. We'd only get a digital or code in box release
Re: Another Switch 1 Release Might Be Ditching The "Cloud Version" Label On Switch 2
This will probably be a game key card release but I'm happy that it means previous Cloud games can launch properly on the Switch 2.
I'm not looking forward to all the inevitable, unreasonable comments around pricing - "it was released free on Epic Games and Amazon Prime Gaming - so I'm not paying more than £5 (insert other low number here) for the Switch 2 version" - or "that's terrible pricing for an 5 year old game - it's on sale now for £8.24 so it should launch at £10" because people think ports are easy/free/copy pasta jobs
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@StorminNorman not sure if others know too but a 64GB card never has that amount available. I think it can differ slightly by manufacturer but it's likely around 58 or 59GB of actual capacity.
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@Anachronism the license is for the medium it's on, not for the game across every medium you have access to. A video game is not an mp3.
Should also note that Nintendo has never intentionally bricked any of their consoles. A console ban =/= bricked
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@WiltonRoots I'm surprised people STILL evidently believe Nintendo sets 3rd party pricing. Or at least that's what I choose to think because the alternative is that they're deliberately trolling and should be dealt with as per the community rules
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@MoldyPasta buying digital in protest is madness. Buying digital because you prefer it is a choice
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@Vyacheslav333 as another poster mentioned above, this could also be a case of game access speeds being better on GKCs
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@Zeeba @Cathalm this assumption that game key cards all crash in price is quite false. Outside of those 2 outliers you've mentioned, the 2nd hand and new prices haven't crashed for many many many game key cards.
@zeeba game key cards sell quite easily on eBay and other selling platforms. A quick search shows over 90 eBay sales of AC Shadows in used condition in like a month in the UK with a selling price of around £33++. Others just don't care that much and value still being to resell games.
Re: Talking Point: Which Zelda Game Would You Most Like To See Remade?
Why are so many people, including Nintendo Life, calling Ocarina of Time 3DS a remake when it's really a remaster and I think even Nintendo calls it a remaster rather than a remake. I'm confused.
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@Wierdo perhaps, but it's also been publicised here and in other gaming media that the cost of electronic components has risen, especially the ones for older technology. Also - this article explains things quite nicely - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/chips-arent-improving-like-they-used-to-and-its-killing-game-console-price-cuts/
Saying profit margins improve over time feels slightly simplistic, I mean, that's generally what's taught in microeconomics but there are plenty of other factors to consider when it comes to margins.
Re: Fantastic Fantasy Roguelike Absolum Is Getting The Full Physical Treatment On Switch 2
@Falien You might personally pay $90 but I can already visualise 1000 articles and YouTube videos criticising the approach, especially if it's published by a 'big corpo' (probably worse if it's from Nintendo)
Re: Fantastic Fantasy Roguelike Absolum Is Getting The Full Physical Treatment On Switch 2
@HugoGED The physical price is also double their eshop launch price. There's no guarantee that other publishers pricing physical releases with a similar markup won't generate more complaints about 'greedy publishers'.
There's still time for people to claim that Silver Lining is being 'greedy' and 'anti-consumer' with this release and the price markup. It's also been on sale for £18 a couple of times on the eshop. So people who usually complain about port pricing may pounce on the cost of this physical release being over double the cheapest price it's ever been at.
Re: New Limited-Time Switch 2 Offer Features A Small Saving On Mario Galaxy
@flighty @JohnnyMind I feel I should point out that the cost of a mid-level gaming PC is much higher (especially now) compared against a console. It's theoretically possible to get one that's relatively affordable but I feel it requires things like self-assembly, finding a way to get Windows cheaply, etc. I've assembled my own one to maximise my budget but not everyone has the desire to do so.
I also completely acknowledge that PC gaming can be a very cheap exercise (especially factoring free giveaways from various sites) but it's also not always consistent because the pricing approach is dependant on publishers. Some do deep discounts, some don't, and some only do for specific games/franchises. We can pick and choose examples all day long and it won't be very productive.
I love the Koei series but I've never seen any of the Nobunaga's Ambition or Romance of the Three Kingdoms games deeply discounted. So I've never seriously considered buying on PC since it's a sunk cost - I'd happily buy a physical release on console (in my case, the Switch)
My main takeaway from your list to Johnny is that the eshop prices, while slightly higher, are very competitive against PC prices with only a dollar or two difference.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Galaxy Jumps Up The Rankings Thanks To A Big-Screen Boost
@gcunit I'm trying to figure out /confirm whether the platform split is based on lifetime sales or whether it is based on the sales for that week. It makes more sense for it to be the latter but it's equally possible for it to be the former.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Galaxy Jumps Up The Rankings Thanks To A Big-Screen Boost
@Pillowpants apparently that was Nintendo’s original plan in the early development of Super Mario Galaxy - to make them related to each other.
Re: New Limited-Time Switch 2 Offer Features A Small Saving On Mario Galaxy
@Peach64 Odd. Mario Odyssey gets discounted about 2 times a year. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the same. I know there are a handful of games that are about once every couple of years rather than annually - like Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild (this had like an annual discount for a few years but seems irregular now)
Re: New Limited-Time Switch 2 Offer Features A Small Saving On Mario Galaxy
@rallydefault I'm sure pinball was referring to the Canadian price of the console
Re: New Limited-Time Switch 2 Offer Features A Small Saving On Mario Galaxy
@PinballBuzzbro but that's exactly how a purchase incentive works.
You could position that as a complaint on literally any item that's priced at a point you disagree with and it would be a waste of energy.
Re: New Limited-Time Switch 2 Offer Features A Small Saving On Mario Galaxy
@RumandCohibas and yet they still sell at the prices they set. That's neither anti consumer nor greedy. Basic business economics - you try to price at the sweet spot where supply and demand intersect.
Re: New Limited-Time Switch 2 Offer Features A Small Saving On Mario Galaxy
@flighty And that's why videogames have been devalued to the extent that all the money has be made within like the first 6 months of release and games are expected to be practically free after like 5+ years - I personally don't even need to think about buying PC games since Epic and Amazon and GOG keep giving games away and have only bought a couple of GOG games over the past 7 years (which I could've waited on since one I bought 6 months ago, Phantasie, was in the March 2026 Amazon Prime Gaming giveaway).
I don't think the non-Nintendo pricing strategy is sustainable, particularly with the average cost of game development. It may not be the worst problem but I don't think it's far off.
Nintendo's 'long tail' sales for most of their games remains an enviable thing for other publishers.
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@Automated_Unit_4937 https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2026/04/former-nintendo-sales-lead-thinks-switch-2-price-increase-is-inevitable#comment9100184 meta already explained it well a couple of replies above. Furthermore, your suggestion will make it harder to both position and price a Switch 2 Lite (If they do one - but chances are good that is coming)
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@KidSparta Quite wildly off base criticism considering this article isn't based on them or anything they said
Re: One Of Switch's Very Best Indies Is Getting Physical 8 Years After Release
@squiddu-real and.......he's gone
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@ChaosAzeroth that Bloomberg article you reference is probably wrong. Another group did some digging and believe that Bloomberg based their production estimates on Foxconn revenue
https://gonintendo.com/contents/59149-independent-reporting-circana-a-former-nintendo-employee-chime-in-following
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@metaphysician too many don't consider things further than "I want and surely more options always mean better things for consumers."
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@DonnieTACO no, they won't make billions of dollars when/if costs increase to the point where they make a loss on every console sold.
Corporate greed is also such a lazy line
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@DonnieTACO for so many of the Switch 1 years we also had people here and elsewhere requesting for a screen-free version for those who only play docked. Counter intuitive to whole essence of the Switch
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@TenEighty hmm a TV only model would immediately kill off touchscreen functionality being either offered or focused on in games. That's a no from me
Re: Former Nintendo Sales Lead Thinks Switch 2 Price Increase Is "Inevitable"
@Automated_Unit_4937 2nd hand shops and places like eBay already offer easy access to a dock free console
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
@electrolite77 I'm reasonably convinced, by the tone and content of some of the negative comments here, that they think these are the only first party games for the whole of 2026.
They also read the title excluding the word 'includes' "Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario".
I also notice many think OoT 3DS was a remake instead of the remaster that it was. Then again, that's probably quibbling a minor point when the root is likely that they want new games and if there is a remake then they want it to be for a Zelda game that hasn't had a remaster or a remake yet