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@JumpingJackson nothing about this is anti consumer. That term is just thrown around willy nilly and now just means "I don't like this therefore it is anti consumer"

@SillyG those handhelds cost a lot more than the Switch. I fail to see how it's particularly relevant, even as an avid pc gamer, to bring in drm-free games into the discussion. Also, they are the exception rather than the norm and largely only exist in a single platform.

If you're fully into pc games, great, but this isn't the site for it. You want PC Gamer or some other site instead.

@SillyG why bring drm-free pc games in when there are no drm-free console games in existence? Then just play pc only.

On topic, I'm disappointed that this isn't a themed bundle. Then again we might still be too early in the life cycle for that to happen

It's bonkers that some ppl prefer games that are locked to their account on some pretext of fighting against corporations (never mind the fact that they are also supporting other corporations with that stance)

@Rez Not included in this case

Finished Pragmata on Saturday and started New Game+ on Sunday. Enjoyed a session of co-op Super Tennis with my 12 yr old and a session of Tetris 99 where she rejoiced at finishing higher than me in Team Battle mode

@HugoGED a set limit of 64gb would result in several games only getting released in fully digital format or code in box. There isn't a magic button for optimisation and compression that keep enough high quality visuals at a reasonable frame rate.

"Of course, you will see a graphical compromise in a direct comparison, but if you value it, you are not the target group of this port.." Preach.

Gameplay > graphics

@Cipher36 well, in a sense, they are technically listening to fans who say they'll buy code in box or digital over a game key card

@MegaVel91 My statement was largely broad on purpose though I know there are always outliers (like the YouTube creator in question). Never even considered lumping you into that group. There were different posts I I had in mind for it - none which came from you.

There's a lot more nuance past the broad layers as there are creators who get a bit of money for what they do, largely covering costs as a passion project - even then, the Pokemon company has clear terms of use that allow fan art that's not commercialised. If people don't like it, they can find other companies who allow commercialised fan art. But I digress since fan art isn't quite the topic at hand.

Largely though, I believe those who are more inclined to create things for money tend to understand being more careful about things but maybe I'm totally wrong - we do seem to be in an age where seemingly many believe they have a right to do practically anything with any IP they want. And if they can't, then the pitchforks come out

It's always easy to see who in the comments of these types of posts are creatives and who aren't.

@Darknyht nonsense. Content creators producing their own content are equally protected.

@nintendohirethisman you probably won't be missed

@hol_up whole minefield there. You get royalties for samples generally if someone uses your work. This is without digging further into individual cases

@DonnieTACO a very brief glance at the sold listings on sites like eBay will tell you the number. It's greater than 100

@KingMike Axel above would happily make money off others it seems

@MamaSymphonia please share your original characters here for us to monetise

@TheVGMLover I invite you to consider the world of music copyright from music creators who allow limited use of their productions on socials but expect payment for corporate use or expect payment for their other productions. Just because it's online doesn't mean it's a free for all

@King_MFW I've answered the question. It's not the correct term to use.

I don't look down on people who play them or even create them. I would take issue if someone else was making money off a ROM Hack of something I created.

@MamaSymphonia so so so many people like you completely misunderstand that these annoying copyright things protect the small creators too

@King_MFW Do all of you also believe that Pokémon ROM hacks should be illegal too?

Illegal is a strong and incorrect word here. Would certainly be against the Terms of Use.

Because if the creator of a hack had a monetized YT channel, then they would be indirectly profiting off of someone else's work.

That's not indirect profit if the ROM hack creator monetised the videos or has a patreon or something similar. That's direct profit

@AlanShore please understand. If he truly gives it away for free then he wouldn't need a Patron page

@TAndvig Given that you can resell Game Key Cards and can sometimes get back what you paid for, it's highly debatable how much you 'waste'.

@Stormcloudlive it's almost exclusively so that there's retail presence/visibility. Arguably, Steam and PC games led the way (feels like it's been this way for about two decades now in terms of there being no 'proper' physical PC games)

@Arawn93 for bigger games we tended to miss them or get a tiny portion of the game on the card like LA Noire or get a cloud version

@Yosher as far as I know, that sales chart isn't communicating lifetime sales split so there's a chance for improvement

@Moistnado why not? It's polite, it doesn't hurt anybody, it shows gratefulness, and it's a common thing for creators to say to anyone who's experienced their creations.

Calling exclusives anti consumer drags the term further into the realm of No Meaning

@Haruki_NLI I'm reasonably sure what meta posted was in jest but kal replied earnestly

@AX-7 your post is solid proof that anything can be labelled as "corporate greed" just from how you position something.

@kal_el_07241 That's right - kill all consoles and all games should be PC only from now onwards.

@Alpha008 Nintendo has issued a statement clarifying that digital prices went down rather than physical prices went up.

(There's something off about my grammar here in terms of tenses but the gist of the message is there)

@disappointedMii surely it's more like calling Borderlands a single player game? I vaguely recall there's no single player mode in left 4 dead (so I never bought it)

@Kilamanjaro rent? I mean if you're in the UK you can probably rent it and other games for like about £12-£15 a month

@Diven You mean the UK was already charging £8 less for digital.

@Thorgaer so did I.

There may have been a squeak or two uttered when I first encountered them but there's no one else to confirm whether it did or did not happen. 😬

The huge crawling baby enemies in the 2nd stage are freakingly unnerving. I quite like that only your main pistol type weapon has relatively unlimited ammo - which helps keep the gameplay away from being another 3rd person shooter (ammo for weapons is low so each shot needs to count)

@Glassneedles it dropped below £7 a couple of years back and was as low as £9 two months back- from Loaded (former CD Keys before they got sick of random Redditors lumping their name with CJS CD Keys when there were issues with keys) on both occasions

@WiltonRoots the fear is wild 😆. Those who are incredibly keen on keeping physical games for 40+ years are likely keeping them unplayed in display cases

@8bit-Man if it's more expensive than the PS5 version in your area it means the seller has estimated there's more demand than supply.

If visuals and performance matters that much to you then just play on PC.

@Hwatt 😅 in the UK, there's a service called Boomerang which offers multiplatform game rental with various packages. It's a very handy option for me to also try out different games

@Misima basically ignoring that Nintendo have never done it yet. Neither of those were related to Nintendo and they're not even pushing live service games so that example is a tad irrelevant

@topsekret I respect that there are a few who want to keep a game indefinitely - a bit like holding on to NES cartridges and the NES to play it on until now - and physical games are seemingly quite essential to achieving that scenario.

I think a great deal of nuance is lost in the use of GKCs considering it's also paired with a fear of a digital-only future. There are strengths and there are weaknesses. Digital first advocates (of which I'm not) will not care as much about the weaknesses. My personal position is I will generally buy physical over digital unless the price was too good (Like Civ VI) or I know I'll probably never plan on selling on (like Mario Kart and Oddysey) or if it's a retro/classic game (like Marvel v Capcom).

For what it's worth, I think you had an idea of having them be installation cards, which is an interesting suggestion and probably only fails due to the overall cost of producing cards compared to a disc. I imagine if the cost difference was much closer then the idea would be far more viable. Don't think we're there yet.

@WiltonRoots 😬 the hate is just irrational at this point. Even preferring digital over GKCs. I feel that's just spite.

@topsekret it's been almost 20 years and it's still open for redownloading. It was their first proper internet connected console.

For the Switch 2 game key cards to useless, the following needs to happen first in this order and probably without exception.

Wii > Wii U > Switch 1 > Switch 2.

I'm sure it'll be over 30 years before we're in any possible danger of losing access to redownload Switch 2 games. The fear of Nintendo servers closing even for downloads is wildly and ridiculously overblown. It's NEVER happened yet and still ppl are talking as if it'll happen in the next 5 to 10 years. Internet and reddit-fuelled irrational fear based largely or solely on eshop closure for purchases. In another post someone else already recently made the mistake of confusing the two scenarios.

@Anti-Matter best live action Street Fighter fight scene. It helps even more if, like me, you understand Cantonese

@Alcea I'll take perceived copium over what seems like an inability to accept that there are advantages rather than it being a purely terrible option.

@Eririichi it's objectively worse not objectively or marginally better. The idea of GKCs becoming more e-waste than code in box releases is rooted in the belief that the eshop will be closed for even redownloading games in less than 20 years. That's never happened to a Nintendo console yet and you can still redownload Wii purchases.

@metaphysician won't be fine for me and I can't treat that as a serious suggestion