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@Dr_Corndog that likely means the market has expanded

@Hisui25002 they want an Asus ROG Xbox Ally X beater that costs less than £400 🤷🏻‍♂️. Not sure how that'll ever be achieved with current technology, materials, and processes

@DonnieTACO because, portability.

Pity there are no options that do everything the switch 2 pro controller does at a cheaper price. I'll accept the lack of a feature to wake up the console but want that refined rumble, NFC for amiibos, and similar battery life

@Deadsea1993 It's apparently related to streaming laws in Japan and that RTA changed it's legal status in 2020 so they now have more to comply with

@DrakeFeathers now take that same fear, multiply it in terms of potential financial and reputation losses and look at it from a business point of view.

Shockingly, the Nintendo sub Reddit has more sensible responses - all saying this isn't news. It's Japanese law, particularly when it comes to streaming, and it's been that way for years. Doing it for charity doesn't mean laws get ignored or glossed over.

There's also of course a massive culture gap between the West and Japan around this anyway which means comments already come from a more Western angle (Freedom!!!).

@KociolekDoSyta there were additional rules and apparently laws that kicked into play that weren't in play before.

@Bifmerly gaslighting. Pure gaslighting. There are dozens upon dozens of comments here blaming Nintendo

@swoose 1. fast-tracked permission for this event, 2. gave notice further in advance, 3. waived permission this time with an understanding of what to do in the future, 4. ignored it entirely as with every year before.

#2 is not Nintendo's responsibility. That's on the organiser. A charitable event isn't a magic word that automatically gets approved.

The answer to the other points is already more than adequately covered by @HeadPirate

@KociolekDoSyta the RTA changed it's legal status in 2020

@SurprisedRobinChu but they didn't brick the system. Brick means you can't even turn it on or use it. It was a console ban that was acknowledged to be a mistake and then rectified by Nintendo customer service.

I reiterate, Nintendo have never bricked a system.

@SurprisedRobinChu Another slight correction. The account ban that was done in error by Nintendo was reversed after he contacted customers service, not after media publicity. It had nothing to do with the name. It's covered here https://www.gamesradar.com/games/the-legend-of-zelda/a-permanent-switch-2-console-ban-has-apparently-stranded-twink-link-in-nintendo-support-hell-the-guy-over-the-phone-was-laughing-at-the-username/

Not sure why you think NintendoLife might be avoiding negative coverage - a couple of weeks or so ago (maybe more), there were lots of unfounded accusations that NintendoLife was drumming up controversial topics that had a negative Nintendo-slant

Edit: Was really interesting to realise that the story wasn't covered here. Then again, it's the type of story that, to me, just spreads misinformation rather than be a good story. I've written a few pieces for magazine cover stories so perhaps have different priorities when it comes to articles.

@The_Nintend_Pedant there's no virtually bricked status though. Either something is bricked or it isn't. There's no in-between state. Everything that doesn't requite online functionality still works - so every Nintendo first party game works. Every fully physical release still works. I think even the MIG still works.

@SurprisedRobinChu slight correction, Nintendo have never bricked a system for any reason. They've only banned consoles from accessing any online services when Terms and Conditions have been broken, usually by having illegitimate backups

@SirPrimalform kinda goes to show how many bad eggs use the MIG. You also must have seen that he was unbanned with little to no fuss

@The_Nintend_Pedant I totally understand the argument about value Vs cost. I just think it's reductive and pointless for m to base value on hours to finish the main game. That's partly how we ended up with so much bloat in modern games.

Edit: Also, there are zero games where the main game takes 100 hours to complete and there's not much info yet on how long it could take to 100% DK but it's definitely longer than 36 hours based on this review

@The_Nintend_Pedant I chose Pineapple quite deliberately 😁. He was waffling about hours of gameplay for a review and comparing against completionist hours in other games. There are several 100 hour games you can complete in 20-30 hours. What's missing from his reductive diss is the measure of fun and replay ability ☺️

@Ramouz oh. You really are serious and comparing apples with pineapples.

@Ramouz really not sure if you're serious with your comment about 35 hours

@YunoboCo "How is my negative comment less constructive than other people’s positive comment?" Criticism is energy zapping and, non-toxic workplaces will always reinforce that criticism needs to be constructive because it's pretty useless otherwise.

@ICISAZEL Possibly - at this stage, the 'They' doesn't seem to include Nintendo since they've committed to fully physical releases though they reserve the right to change their mind later. Nintendo has long maintained a pricing strategy of 33% discount as a max (for over a decade I think) - I have no concerns about that number dropping lower.

My view of the current state of the gaming industry is that it is unsustainable with an over-reliance on mega hits supplemented by race-to-the-bottom pricing strategies to mop up whatever leftover revenue they can get.

They are a few outliers like the developer of Factoria and some publishers like Koei Tecmo who never discounts certain franchises by more than 50%.

@MamaSymphonia it's completely unsurprising for the Switch 1 version of totk to outsell the Switch 2 version because that's the cheapest upgrade path. Buy the Switch 1 version, then buy the upgrade pack. Cheaper than buying the Switch 2 version outright

@Yydeckard if ppl are so hung up on performance, they should just get a pc. There's way too much frame counting going on

@Orwellian87 I'll say one thing - I've never heard that phrase out spoken out loud by any mature adult of any age

@LoneWolfSones Ho hum - another one who doesn't put any responsibility on the people getting their consoles banned and knowingly reselling / getting refunds with no consequences.

The issue is also with the MIG card, not fake SD cards. Fake SD cards will just be much lower capacity than advertised or fail far more easily. There also aren't any pirated Switch 2 game cards at all so it's not even worth bringing it up.

As for the reports of 3rd party docks not working - you've very quickly forgotten that the Switch 1 had public cases where 3rd party docks were bricking other people's Switches.

Several of those reported Switch 2 docks are also working now after a firmware update so nothing to get angry about either or, as it's popular to, accuse Nintendo of being 'greedy'

@SuntannedDuck2 "Switch 1's Indies are just eh" - that's one heck of a hot take....

@ICISAZEL ah that's good. It's current averaging at £65 in terms of retail pricing. Some got the European version for the around £45 from Amazon France recently

@SirPrimalform no Nintendo console has ever been bricked by Nintendo. Bricked consoles have overwhelmingly been a user error when trying to hack the system (or hack through the MIG or something like it) or through faulty electronics. My switch 1 got bricked when I plugged into a faulty charging port.

In answer to who owns the hardware, you kinda do but Nintendo and every other console maker can stop you from installing chests and hacks to protect themselves and other gamers. So they can and should stop you from accessing their servers.

I didn't know the Switch 1 has been removed from sale and has stopped being supported. Can you share the news? I'd have thought it would've been major news but guess I missed it.

@RejectedAng3L they may have money, sure, but one of the quickest ways to end up with a lot less money is to waste it. These costs quickly run into the tens of thousands each year. There's also the employee time cost and opportunity cost since the employees could be working on creating new features instead of wasting time maintaining servers that maybe a handful of ppl use each year.

If you like the idea of spending that much time and money for no gain then I echo @jacket_p about the public sector 😏

@Rockcabinet there's no bricking happening. Amusingly, much of what you've said has been said before (at least thematically), back in 2009 when Microsoft did a wave of console bans.

Back then, websites weren't falling over themselves to call it bricking

@Anti-Matter @eldersnake weren't several Switch 1 releases functionally identical to game key card games? Like you couldn't play without an additional download,? LA Noire and Need For Speed Remastered have a clear message on the box saying Internet Download Required.

@RejectedAng3L so you are in fact saying every online shop including the now closed Xbox marketplace.

I do need to correct the point about servers being a set up and forget thing. They aren't. There's a cost to maintaining them that's higher than zero. I've had to coordinate a few server updates in previous roles and those take actual time to do. I notice you mention automation. I can imagine and probably map out the processes for automating server updates but there are still multiple points where human decisions are needed. So it's not reasonable or feasible or even efficient to have a fully automated server update process. It's only one part of the process but Budgets do need to be allocated and approved with manual checks and discussions.

Servers generally have a lifespan too that isn't measured in decades. Furthermore, the older they are when being kept open, the bigger the risk of a cyber attack from a variety of factors.

Edit: I should be clear that I support your wish to have online shops stay open indefinitely. I just don't see how that's feasible

@darth_pjs OLED screen was pretty much impossible at that price point. There are none with that tech at that size so any inclusion would be at prices that only the hyper hardcore (and rich) can afford.

@RejectedAng3L name me just 1 Wii game that was fully online only.

I did say your statement was only half true because you said the Wii/DS games were gone. Only the eshop was closed. Any previously purchased Eshop game is absolutely not gone and can still be downloaded again if it was needed.

I do understand the wish to have every Eshop from every console maker be open indefinitely. I think that's highly unrealistic considering the cost (maintenance costs, staff time opportunity cost from renewing/maintaining servers Vs doing things to grow Nintendo or their games, increased risk from old technology still being used in the backend) Vs benefit ratio makes it hard to justify to please a relatively small group of people.

And even when an Eshop closes, we can still redownload software we've bought before

@Reztobi could you elaborate on how Nintendo bricks their system when they do the same thing as Sony and Microsoft? The Nintendo Switch 2 still functions offline.

It's 100% not bricked. The only thing that Nintendo did was ban online connectivity. Just like Sony and Microsoft.

I'm glad you said you can't expect to do the same action with no consequences on other consoles

@ICISAZEL can you show me any £80 game from Nintendo? I'm curious as I've never seen but I've heard a lot of commentary about £80 games

@RejectedAng3L Because saying that Wii games are gone is only half-true. Only the storefront is gone. Any games you've bought from the Wii eShop are STILL downloadable. Even today. You're spreading false information

Saying that Nintendo might only keep the Switch 1 server for only 10 years is also false based on the Wii servers still being open for downloading past purchases.

@Reztobi Why? None of the consoles banned are unusable. Furthermore, why stop at just Nintendo? Take out Sony and Microsoft at a minimum too before taking on Steam for banning accounts that break their ToS.

@Elitepatriot None of your bought eshop games are lost. All are downloadable. All are transferable to another Switch system.

If your PS5 or Xbox Series or Switch 2 gets stolen, you have bigger problems than then the loss of your physical games anyway. Since this is important to you, I recommend you start a class action lawsuit against Sony and Microsoft for not letting you play backed up games on their own consoles either.

@Elitepatriot Why would you be locked out of your content if you didn't do anything wrong? It's also not anti-consumer when the overwhelming majority (like over 95% unless the MIG sold a crapton of units) will never face or even risk facing this scenario.

This scenario will never happen to me and to many many other people who won't or don't use the MIG on their Switch 2.

@Elitepatriot once again banning is not bricking. Your console still functions offline. You're not locked out of your console. Your account itself isn't banned - you can still get another Switch 2 and redownload everything there so you're definitely not boned.

@Elitepatriot are you asking because you don't know whether they'd work or whether you 100% sure they don't work? You can reported still use the MIG card for switch 1 games on a banned /nerfed Switch 2. If this affected you, then you can reportedly get another Switch 2 and redownload your purchased games there.

Physical games still work anyway. Console ban =/= Bricked. For example, my Switch 1 was bricked when a power surge destroyed the motherboard.

@RPGpro evidently accidental console bans CAN be reversed by Nintendo if this particular case is any indication:

Twink Link is being freed: Nintendo apparently backtracks, says you are allowed to call yourself Twink Link as it works to unban a Switch 2 it "flagged by accident" | GamesRadar+ https://share.google/HemheoAekn1hx2oO3

@Elitepatriot there's no breakage happening. There's no bricking happening. The console still functions offline

@Linux7055 at least 1 example who shared his experience on Reddit. Personally, I'd never get a MIG because I know the temptation to fill it with downloaded ROMS would be tremendous and I'd rather not do that to myself

@BlackStar9000 So, why would you ever keep a MIG or anything that could make Nintendo block your account indefinitely within their reach and/or not tell them never to use it on your Switch? Nintendo has set quite strict parental controls for the Switch too so their usage of the Switch 2 outside of additional hardware that you pass to them use is a non-issue.

From the sounds of it, your family members misusing your Switch 2 is the absolute least of your problems. So, I sympathise.

Perhaps temporary removal of the PS5 from your son may help. Hopefully your family situation improves regardless of what action you choose to take (or not take).

@GgGames to match how it works in vs.

Random mode wasn't working properly before since it gave a 100% chance of a 3 lap course

@ouroborous correct. They're not totally unusable.

@KITG_GROUP yes. Also, gamers apparently now prefer to misuse the term bricked. There's even someone here sharing that a console can be fully bricked and still be usable offline

@ouroborous good thing Nintendo have never literally bricked any Switch or Switch 2 console for any reason then