Rare is one of the UK's most respected and adored software houses, with a lineage that goes back more than 30 years. While the company is now wholly owned by Microsoft, for a large part of its lifespan it was closely affiliated with Nintendo - initially as a third party creator of software for the NES and Game Boy, and then as a "second party" studio in which Nintendo was a major shareholder.
From the time of its first Nintendo release in 1986 to its purchase by Microsoft in 2002, the studio produced a dazzling array of content for Nintendo's systems, including many of the titles which are now regarded as the best the company has ever produced. Taking this into account, it feels rather odd that Rare Replay - a celebration of Rare's history which launches this week on the Xbox One - isn't coming to a Nintendo console. Granted, it's a compilation produced by a first-party Microsoft studio and in that respect it's rather naive to expect a Wii U edition, but when the disc contains as many Nintendo hits as this one does, it's jarring all the same.
In case didn't know already, Rare Replay pulls together many highlights from the firm's illustrious back catalogue, including several ZX Spectrum smash-hits from the time when it was known as Ultimate Play The Game. 30 different offerings are included, with the earliest being 1983's Jetpac and the most recent being 2008's Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts. In-between you'll find a large helping of Nintendo-flavoured goodness - in fact, half of the games included here originated on Nintendo hardware. NES classics such as Cobra Triangle, R.C. Pro-Am, Battletoads and Snake Rattle 'n' Roll are joined by N64 gems like Jet Force Gemini, Blast Corps, Conker's Bad Fur Day and Banjo-Kazooie. The SNES era is sadly absent, thanks to the fact that Rare was laser-focused on the Donkey Kong Country series at this point, which naturally cannot be included here. It's also a shame - but understandable - that Rare's many contributions to the Game Boy library are missing. Granted, many of these were licensed titles (The Amazing Spider-Man, WWF Superstars, Beetlejuice) but to ignore them is to ignore a large and very profitable sector of Rare's business in the early '90s. Still, the fact that 1994's Battletoads Arcade makes the cut means it's not all bad - this coin-op exclusive title is a joy to behold, dialing up the gore and boasting impressive sprite-scaling effects.
Because Rare changed hands in 2002, there are notable gaps in Rare Replay's story. The aforementioned Donkey Kong titles are (predictably) nowhere to be seen, a massive oversight when you consider how vital those games are to the tapestry that is Rare. This of course extends to the sublime Diddy Kong Racing - one of the finest N64 driving games and the only kart racer that truly gave Mario Kart a run for its money. Star Fox Adventures is also understandably absent - although many won't lament that fact - as is GoldenEye 007, although its exclusion has little to do with Nintendo, and more to do with Rare wanting to pick titles which boasted characters it had produced itself.
The 30-odd titles that have made the cut vary in quality, despite their classic status. The early Spectrum games - so ground-breaking at the time of release - have not aged well. Coming from a time when keyboard control was the norm, they feel restricted and often frustrating, although it's still easy to see why they were so striking when they arrived on the market back in the early-to-mid '80s. It's not until you hit the NES-era titles that Rare Replay really starts to show value for money; the company's mastery of Nintendo's 8-bit hardware is beyond debate, and games like Cobra Triangle and R.C. Pro-AM boast smooth sprite movement and excellent control.
The N64 titles benefit from a resolution boost, and some come off looking better than others. Killer Instinct Gold, which mixes 3D backgrounds with traditional 2D sprites, looks very rough around the edges. The fighters are a fuzzy, pixelated mess, but thankfully the insane, combo-heavy gameplay shines through. Banjo-Kazooie and its N64 sequel remain fantastic, arguably some of Rare's finest work on the N64, while Blast Corps is such an amazingly playable title anchored to such a great core idea that it's a real wonder that no one else - Rare included - has tried to replicate it in the years since.
What really makes the package so tantalizing for Rare fans is the video interviews included as bonus unlockables, gained after earning "stamps" in each title. The process is a bit fiddly to be honest, and unless you're truly dedicated and willing to play quite far into each release, you may end up missing much of the bonus content on offer. However, these special interviews - featuring past and present Rare staffers such as Gregg Mayles, Wil Overton, James Thomas, Kevin Bayliss, Chris Sutherland, David Wise and Simon Woodroffe, as well as many others - are a pretty powerful incentive to keep playing. Not only do they touch upon Rare's magic, but they also reveal how titles came to be, and uncover some unreleased or cancelled projects that the studio was working on in the past.
Rare Replay may be missing some key releases and may lock away some of its most appealing exclusive content until you've played a fair few hours, but it's how a collection of this type should really be done - and it pains me that it's not on a Nintendo system. Excuse the rather harsh tone, but it's almost as if Xbox owners don't really deserve such a lovingly-crafted selection of titles, many of which were coded for Nintendo hardware in mind and created during a time when the Japanese company arguably represented the very best gaming had to offer.
To utter such sentiment is of course foolish and an example of the hopelessly nostalgic heart ruling the mind; Microsoft paid good money for Rare at a time when Nintendo seemed unwilling to do the same, and as such it is Microsoft's customers which should of course benefit from this veritable treasure trove of classics. Still, casting your mind back to the likes of Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge, Banjo-Pilot, Diddy Kong Racing DS and Viva Piñata: Pocket Paradise - all games for Nintendo systems produced by Rare after it was snapped up by Microsoft - you can't help but wonder if a Wii U version of this very same collection could have been possible. Perhaps if the Wii U had sold at the same explosive rate as its forerunner, such a far-fetched reality may have come to pass, but it's highly unlikely; Rare's last Nintendo games were all for handhelds, a sector of the market that Microsoft has traditionally never had any interest in. Commercially, it made sense to support the Game Boy Advance and DS as it wouldn't impact the sales of Microsoft's domestic systems and would allow the company to make some money out of its rival's portable fanbase - a fanbase that was totally out of reach to the American giant. The same could not be said of the Wii U, which is a direct competitor to the Xbox One.
Resigned to the fact that Rare Replay will remain an Xbox One exclusive until the end of time, I've no real option but to recommend it in the highest manner possible to those of you who happen to own Microsoft's current home console. Not only is it a brilliantly constructed tribute to one of the world's most esteemed game-makers, but it also offers insane value for money and delivers a solid illustration of just how important Nintendo's hardware has been to the evolution of not just this one, legendary studio, but the games industry as a whole.
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good article. it's embarrasing how far ahead of anything Nintendo has done with the Virtual Console MS are with this release. the pricing of it is absolutely fantastic.
If Rare could actually do so and they released these on all three major consoles, I wonder if it would do best on the Wii U, despite the lower install base. I know for one I have a lot of nostalgia for their games if nothing else would lead me to buy them again, and the few here I've never got to try out. It's a real shame Banjo never shows up on Nintendo systems anymore. I think I'm still not over that. Glad to see Yooka-Laylee coming at least from Playtonic.
Something like Rare Replay would never happen on a Nintendo console. Nintendo would much rather charge $10 bucks for each individual game, without any of the bonus content that the compilation offers.
I'm jealous.
I do have an N64 and although the Banjo titles are moderately priced at around $30, Conker's Bad Fur Day goes for and average of $90 and that's for cart only, maybe with some scuffing of the cart. It is almost worth getting an XBONE if you were already thinking about it and considering getting an N64 for Conker's Bad Fur Day.
I do wonder though...The games belong to Rare, and thus Microsoft. Are they using some N64 emulator or are the games re-coded for a completely different hardware environment?
"The early Spectrum games - so ground-breaking at the time of release - have not aged well."
Sacrilege! Their inclusion on this is the main reason I want an XBox One! I can only surmise from this that you were an evil C64 owner back in the day...
I'll probably pick this up on xbone.
It's not even on PS4 and I was thinking of getting that(for bloodborn). (or a PS3)
@mattmayatt you can't even get it anywhere else xboner exclusive.
Sure, it's a shame it's not on Wii U but there are two reasons for that. One is obviously the business reason. Rare is owned by Microsoft so they only develop for them. The other reason is technical. There are a number of Xbox 360 exclusives in the collection, including some N64 games like Perfect Dark or Banjo, which in Rare Replay are emulated on Xbox One from their Xbox 360 releases, just like Viva Piñata. Making Wii U version would require to port each and every of these games from 360 to Wii U. And here comes the business again: it's just not worth it.
It is sad, though completely understandable, that this collection isn't coming to the Wii U. It's so awesome it almost makes me want an Xbox One (almost).
I have my copy pre-ordered, can't wait to pick it up tomorrow
I'm really excited for this game and can't wait to play it tomorrow. I'll most likely just play Jet Force Gemini and put it away lol. But $30 is cheaper than buying a used N64 and cart to replay it.
Curious to see how this sells. It may seem like these games fit with the Nintendo audience, but even more how they don't fit with the traditional image of the XBox fans.
Not to mention it just adds another remake/remaster to this generation of consoles. Microsoft seem to be very apathetic to putting any effort into furthering the future of Conker, Battletoads or Banjo.
Maybe when the XB1 is $99 and I'm done with my WiiU, 3DS, PS3 and PS4 I'll consider getting it. So like probably by the time the Xbox Two comes out.
Rare is rubbish nowadays. Just look at their games right now. The only piece of software I'd definitely get was this nice collection of... Nintendo classics.
Yes. Yes, it is.
That said, where's Battletoads in Battlemaniacs? I can't believe they missed that.
I'm willing to let them have this one. It's one of the few exclusives the console has.
Sad indeed that Nintendo let RARE slip away from them and into the enemy's hands. I would have been all over this collection had it been on the Wii U or 3DS for that matter.
Well there are technical, business and logical reasons as to why the Rare Replay is not on Wii U. Even if this is true and understandable, it is a crying shame that none of Rare's classics have been able to release on VC, baring of course the DK games.
The ultimate irony I see from all this is it just shows another bad side of the lying culture that the industry is in ATM, it was only a few moths ago when Phil Spencer himself tweeted that there would be no problems in working with Nintendo on Rare IPs, as they have supposedly done so in the past, when answering a tweet on Banjo and Kazooie's chances of being in Smash. But I just can't at all believe that to be true, as there seems to be problems, obvious ones at that, between Microsoft and Nintendo when it comes to Rare. Hell even the Diddy Kong Racing port for the DS many years ago, one of the times I'm sure Mr Spencer was referring to when he said there were 'no problems in the past', had all the Rare content removed from the game, making it a joke really.
I'm not sure whether or not to blame Nintendo or Microsoft for this, but in an ideal world the Rare Replay would release on Wii U as well, or at that very least the likes of Banjo-Kazooie, CBFD and Battletoads would be on the e-Shop, and potentially the DK games would be included in the Rare Replay on both consoles, that would be as I say in an ideal world, possibly not realistic considering it's business, but then even as unrealistic as that is, I still think it stinks that Phil Spencer can say there's no problems here, when I see it exactly the opposite.
In short, don't expect Banjo or the Battletoads in Smash guys, don't waste your votes on them, both Nintendo and Microsoft are determined to keep us from getting what we could in a world with no problems, unfortunately.
I have the Donkey Kong Country and Land games on the VC along with DK64. Once I get Rare Replay for the Xbox One I'm good to go. Can't wait to play Battletoads after all these years.
It is sad this is not on the Wii U, but at the same time I feel if Rare had still been Nintendo owned we would never have gotten this cheap deal collection. Instead it would have been all made for individual purchase through the Virtual Console and we may not have gotten anything to celebrate 30 years of Rare.
However I am looking forward to playing this game tomorrow Its actually one of the reasons I bought the Xbox One after watching the E3 conference.
One of the reasons I will be owning an Xbox One before years end.
@moomoo
I agree, Xbone owners don't really deserve this. I wonder if the Microsoft audience is even at all interested in a Rare collection. I suppose a bunch of them are likely Nintendo deserters, so we'll see how it does in sales.
I own many of these carts/games already, but I recently got an Xbone for my birthday, specifically to play this collection. I try not to subscribe to console war fighting, but I still haven't quite been able to accept having the thing in the house. Wii U is my primary console, with PS3/PS4 secondary. And now I guess I have a Rarebox.
I'd trade all the Donkey Kong Country games for Banjo-Kazooie alone.
What i'm more interested in is how they are getting the Nintendo games working. I'm guessing software emulation. No way they would write all these games from scratch. Kinda like MS sticking it's middle finger up at Nintendo. How about this. Nintendo Includes B&K in Smash and Rare gives us this compilation. Everyone's happy.
I still have all of my Rareware carts so I just play them.
My copy of Rare Replay shipped out and should arrive tomorrow.
And I'm absolutely STOKED.
This is truly the first Rare game released since the buyout that I actually feel Nintendo is missing out on something.
Took 13 years though.
@Captain_Gonru Think that's bad, look for Earthbound on the SNES. Its why I got the Wii U VC version.
While this compilation of games is clearly something Nintendo fans would appreciate, there's no way it's ever going to come to the Wii U.
At least it will be playable at all this time around.
Worth buying for Jet Pac - I loved that game soooooo much 😈😈😈😈
This would be a must buy for me if I had an Xbox. Still, I'm happy for those that'll get to play these.
After E3 I gotta say that I am finally on the xbox one train. Soon as tomb raider is released I am getting an xbox one . will definitely pick up this rare game!
It's a shame Nintendo never bought rare. We'd probably be on Banjo eightie by now and conker 5.
Would love to have this, great value.
Definitely a great collection both quality and value wise if I ever get an Xbone ( unlikely ) I'd definitely pick this up.
@JaxonH Viva Piñata says hi.
I was literally just being all sad inside about this. I just spend $30 just for a copy of Perfect Dark and expansion Pak for my N64. And an additional $10 for Jet Force Gemini. Blahh!!! This needs to be on the Wii U!
Fun Fact: Xbox One will have more N64 games available on the console than the Wii U.
I'm glad Microsoft bought Rare, Nintendo would have charge me a fortune for these games with their "premium pricing." Well that is, if they would have actually released them on the V.C. at all. We certainly would not have got the improvements and unlockables.
To all those playing Rare Replay tomorrow along with me
@Ryno Now you're just rubbing salt in the wound . Nonetheless have fun with your games. At least some people get to play them.
@Chaoz 6 games, priced at an MSRP of $40. An average of nearly $7 a pop. Compare that to Rare Replay, a buck a game for $30. Thanks for proving the point.
Yea but it's on a Microsoft console. This along with, erm...I dunno...Master Chief collection? But that's just another collection of old games...Erm, Sunset Overdrive had hype I guess, even if that hype died out instantly on release day...Dead Rising 3 or Ryse? Wait, they're on PC.
I'll stick to old physical versions and emulators, thank you very much. All this does is remind me how awful the Xbone is, with its two best exclusives being remasters.
@Ryno You're glad Microsoft bought Rare because of one game that is literally nothing but a collection of games that shows how much of a shadow of their former self? You're glad that Microsoft forced a good company to make shovelware for the Kinect?
@KillScottKill I don't know where you live, but Kirby Dream Collection is only 30$. 20$ at Walmart. Not to mention Metroid Prime Trilogy was $15 dollars at the E-Shop at one point, all 3 games that are bigger than pretty much everything on the Rare Replay (not that makes the Rare Replay a worse deal by any means)
@Chaoz Because 6 Kirby games at $40 is totally equivalent to 30 Rareware games at $30.
It's also worth mentioning that Rare didn't really go downhill (in my mind) until after the Stamper brothers left, which was quite a bit after the Microsoft acquisition. They and many others left the company. Just check out Viva Pinata, which was out before they left. It's legit.
@Ryno I hope you enjoy it, I'm sure I will when I get it and the Xbox One eventually, but come on that is some serious BS right there. Barring the fact that Microsoft have undeniably crippled Rare from what they once were, a point that has already been pointed out and one that you convinielty ignore, you and I both know the main reason why this is $30 is because they know that very, very few Xbox players are interested in playing more than a dozen NES/SNES games, 7/8 N64 games and about half a dozen 360 games they probably already scoffed at when they first came out. If Microsoft can charge $60 for a game they will, you think the people who paid $60 for Titanfall, Ryse and the MCC (online broken at lauch included) are looking at Microsoft with this and saying 'yup well done guys you've never ripped us off before', when you can probably buy all three of them together now for less than the price of the Rare Replay? I thought not.
I would be tempted to agree with your first point where you say that you're glad Microsoft bought Rare, but from what you then said afterward, you make it seem like Nintendo are the ones who tried to get away with releasing a console where you don't own the games you buy for it, and you and I both know the company who actually tried that one.
@moomoo To be fair, the Rare Replay seems absurdly priced. It seems more like a way for Microsoft to build good relations with their fans and to generate a good image rather than to profit, by practically giving the games away. So it's not fair to compare them.
To all those people saying who will buy Rare Replay if Xbox One owners might not be interested in old Nintendo titles, I have some answers. Firstly, lots of people who used to own Nintendo consoles have been buying Xbox and PS consoles for a while now! Secondly, people that want to own these games and don't have the XOne might get an XOne only because of Rare Replay. How much does it cost Conker's Bad Fur Day on eBay? PAL version €200-300. How much costs one single N64 game on the Nintendo's eShop? €10! So, how does it sound 30 Rare games for €30?
Lots of people are going to get Rare Replay, and some people might get the XOne as well. I've been looking for Conker's Bad Fur day for years, but was reluctant to pay €250. I decided to buy the XOne and Rare Replay. Not only will I get that game that I never got, but I will also get updated versions (better frame rate and better resolution, at least) of my beloved Banjo games and Perfect Dark. Plus, I'll be able to play a sharper version of Killer Instinct.
If this game was available on Wii U, those people saying that they could not care less would say that it's something impossible to miss and a piece of the video games history that everybody should own and play.
And to those blaming Microsoft, just remember that Nintendo owned 49% of Rare. Nintendo had the chance to buy Stamper brothers' 51% but they just let Microsoft have it instead. And then, when Microsoft had bought 51% of Rare, Nintendo sold their 49% to Microsoft. This is the truth, so it's only Nintendo to blame.
@Chaoz Metroid Prime Trilogy was even 9.99 EUR for the first week.
Once again I'm baffled by the comments that the audience for these games are on Wii U. The vast majority of people who owned an N64 have not bought a Wii U, and the percentage is even smaller when you go back to SNES and NES owners. A huge chunk of the Mario fan base isn't even on Wii U, let alone third party classic games.
@moomoo When more than half of that list of games is NES games that you're probably not going play for more than 4 hours and some of the 3D ones not even being well received, The Rare Replay is only slightly more worth it than the Metroid Prime Trilogy and Kirby Dream Collection, but the prices from each region is not always the same so that's subjective. When Rare downfall started is different from person to person, so it'll be better if we got off that subject.
@Ryno I'll be picking it up tomorrow.
As a speccy and Nintendo fanboy from a very young age this is almost made for me ....to the point I might buy an xbone for this alone...which is madness of course ... Isn't it?!?!
Tragedy is when people die horrible deaths. Not having some Rare games because they're owned by another party, while still having Rare's best games exclusively playable on the current or last two consoles (SNES DK X 3, Donkey Kong 64, Star Fox Adventures) or almost ALL playable on past consoles, means it's not even an issue.
"Excuse the rather harsh tone, but it's almost as if Xbox owners don't really deserve such a lovingly-crafted selection of titles, many of which were coded for Nintendo hardware in mind"
Excuse the rather harsh reply but the tone of this statement doesn't really fit in with the rest of the excellent, measured article. Saying that people don't deserve to play a collection of titles because they choose to purchase a certain console makes it sound like you're trying to incite fanboyism.
For better or worse, Rare were bought by Microsoft - that's just the nature of big business. Whatever it's done to their legacy, however they've upset loyal Nintendo fans, that's just the sort of stuff that happens in the real world. I don't think that XBox owners are at fault for the way things turned out.
I'd probably flip the statement and say that XBox One gamers are privileged to play some of the finest games of my youth
@Sunnyleafs Rarebox - awesome.
@STAGGLY I'll get a Rarebox and a Final Fatasy Station....
@Superryanworld: Enjoy, cheers.
Gonna go play some Star Fox Adventures now. One of the finest games Rare ever made; makes me wish Nintendo would have kept them and handed them the keys to Wind Waker instead of the cartoon mess it ended up becoming.
What puzzles me is why this collection lacks the Wizards & Warriors trilogy or Anticipation. They may not have aged particularly well (Anticipation's flagarant cheating is frustrating to no end), but they're still a memorable part of Rare's original IP history when they were typically making licensed software like Double Dare or Nightmare on Elm Street.
@Peach64 whilst all that is obviously true, it's also true that there will not be a massive number of Xbox One owners who will buy this game, it's just obvious even at $30, there's a very good chance this won't sell 'well'. I'd say I'd be wiling to say this, if this game was put on the Wii U exclusively, it would sell just as well as it is going to now exclusive to Xbox One. How many people do you think will pay even $30 for this game over the next 6 months or so when they're also saving up their pennies for ROTTR, Forza 6, Halo 5, Gears of War Ultimate Edition and the countless 3rd party games like SWB, Fallout 4, COD, Assassin's Creed, FIFA and MGSV. Never mind the fact that there's been a good dozen or so great games already on Xbox One that have helped empty wallets.
You're absolutely right that a lot of N64 owners don't own a Wii U, some have died, others found other hobbies, others fallen out of love for gaming alltogether. But do you think that there's a significant number who flocked over to Xbox and still play it to this day? I extremely doubt it. I would go so far as to say that every single game I listed will outsell the Rare Replay despite being twice as expensive. There's a reason why they're making a cheap port collection for $30 rather than 6/7 rebirths for these franchises, because they will not sell. I'll wait for the article that says "Banjo-Threeie sells over 10 million on Xbox One", but I have a feeling I'll be kept waiting.
This is one of the huge reasons I got an Xbox One. Also the upcoming Elite controller. The upcoming 3rd party games. And the upcoming backwards compatibility. The Rare Replay is as Reggie Fils-Aime "a great value." Also, this opinion piece notes how this should be on a Nintendo console. I hate to say this but most of the folks that originally played these games moved on to Microsoft and Sony a long time ago. All my friends went from the N64 to the Xbox. It took me 15 years, but I finally did too. It's ridiculous to insinuate that current Nintendo console owners deserve this, when in reality the original fans have long moved on. Get real.
Blastcorp, jet force gemini, rc pro am, snake rattle n roll, conkers bad fur day are enough to want me get an xbone.
@Sabrewing: Wizards and Warriors series may be owned (partially??) by "Throwback Entertainment" which purchased Acclaim. I hope whoever owns it, somehow the trilogy gets released by DLC,Rare Replay 2, etc..
@Sabrewing wizards and warriors had some of the best music on the NES and really cool boss battles.
@ottospooky : I agree with your harsh reply. Why blame Microsoft or their fan base? All I know is I'm going to be playing this game and the planned DLC which could be a lot of classic gems.
"It's A Tragedy That Rare Replay Isn't On A Nintendo Console"
Tell me about it!
I mean even though Super Mario Maker is going to be a great little game in its own right, and a half decent way to celebrate Mario's 30th birthday, I just don't think it even sniffs what Microsoft/Rare is offering gamers to celebrate Rare's 30th birthday.
I mean just look at the frikin games in that compilation...
Perfect Dark alone is a total score imo, and I bet you Microsoft even makes sure it runs about the best it ever has too.
Having said all that: Even if it were possible to put this on Wii U, it just would not happen. I mean how many times can you count where Nintendo has offered such an unbelievably huge amount of content for a such an amazing price—there's full frikin Xbox 360 games on there, along with a bunch of full N64 games, and loads more, including even stuff in addition to the games—EVER?
It's just not in Nintendo's DNA to do gamers this level of fan service.
30 full f*****g Games, for $30!
@Cyberbotv2 "most of the folks have moved onto Sony and Microsoft a long time ago". I'd refer you to one of my posts above, why aren't there sequels in development for these games? Why is this game only $30? Why did Microsoft have Rare working on Kinect for years? The answer to all those questions is simple, Rare games do not and will not sell well on Xbox. Again if you honestly think that even 10% of the Xbox One fanbase would pay even $30 for this game at launch, then I'd refer you to the last two words of your comment. Get real.
My thoughts exactly especially since 90% of the games were originally on Nintendo systems,It just shows if you haven't got history just buy it.
@VanillaLake : I'm very impressed that Rare has worked to actually improve the visuals on some of these games. Again, 30 games for 30 dollars. Great deal.
@TheLastLugia: The real question is, how many people who own an Xbox One are not going to buy this game? Looking on amazon.com right now, the current best selling video game (updated hourly) is Rare Replay only behind Playstation Store gift cards. http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames
Rare Replay is Amazon's most-pre-ordered game announced at E3
Nintendo made the right move selling Rareware when they did. I do wish we could have this collection on Wii U but that's why I still have N64.
Yeah, it's a grand shame we won't see this on a Nintendo platform, but I find the occasional "XBoners don't deserve this" attitude kinda selfish. They don't have anything like that on their room heater, and a good number of these games still provide surprising quality even by todays standards, and even moreso when compared to the current games of the very console it's an exclusive for (yeah, exceptions, opinions, blah, blah, blah).
Personally, the only thing I find ridiculous is the price tag. This game collection should be at least 60$. The asking price greatly undermines the actual quality and value of most games in this very compilation, and I find that really disappointing.
Tragedy is a tad too far imo but it's unfortunate that this marvellous collection isn't coming out on the WiiU too given Rare & Ninty's past history. That said, at least this collection is coming out to celebrate 30 years of Rare in some way or another.
For me, there's of course Tomb Raider, Unravel, Cuphead, Recore, Quantum Break & Scalebound (& several others I'm looking forward to) but this collection pretty much sealed the deal & convinced me to pick up an XB1 a few weeks ago, so I can't wait for my copy to arrive tomorrow (feels like Christmas has come early).
Always wanted to play some of their eariler games not to mention Grabbed by the Ghoules & the Viva Pinata & Banjoe series, so very excited for this. Plenty of gaming goodness for the younger brother & I'm sure it'll bring back some memories for the parents too.
With this & Sea of Thieves coming soon on the horizon, I feel that it's onwards & upwards for Rare now.
@Kaze_Memaryu I have a feeling that price tag is to build goodwill among video game fans. Microsoft has spent a good long while making decisions that have burned gamers on them, with their E3 2013 presentation being the killing blow on their image. They now have to build it back, and practically giving away games will probably help somewhat.
@Ryno well I'd be amazed if it wasn't. There's like nothing major releasing until MGSV on September 1st. The main reason it's even achieved that? Because it's $30. So well done to Microsoft for that deal, I'm probably only going to have to pay £10-15 when I get it in a few months, but if this sells 1 million by the end of the year I'd be very surprised. 2 million and I'd take back what I've said, but that is not going to happen so there's no point worrying about that.
@DiscoGentleman: Exactly . . . fire up those carts!
I dunno. Would Viva Pinata have even existed if Microsoft hadn't acquired Rare? Because honestly, that's one of my favorite Rare franchises. Yeah it's a shame we won't see a similar collection on Nintendo systems with Donkey Kong 64 and Star Fox Adventures... but frankly I think the way MS is going about this is phenomenal. Especially the pricing.
@Kaze_Memaryu By the looks of it, the price is basically Microsoft trying to help build a good image and to please fans. Viva Pinata on it's own would usually be a third of the price; they're practically giving it away.
Can't believe you didn't even mention Perfect Dark by the way, Damien
It's one of the greatest fps games ever made and arguably the best fps game on N64, maybe even the best game on the system period, with GoldenEye being the other contender in the fps genre.
Probably deserved at least a wee mention.
I'm not sure what to think.It's a collection of great games with great value but probably one that will go unnoticed by a large number of the audience for the system it's on. But then again it's probably something that wouldn't happen on a Nintendo System because Nintendo typically wouldn't devalue their brands so much that they'd ever outright price their individual titles at less than £1 each.
One thing I don't like about this game is that I certainly don't think Rare games, even their 360 titles are worth as little as $1 or £0.55 each. I don't like the idea of many of their best games being valued at next to nothing.
It's not like Nintendo could do anything about this.
@Dr_Lugae I think it's fine when it's done as part of a special anniversary compilation like this. Everyone knows why they're getting such a great deal and that it doesn't mean those games are now only going to be worth that value individually from now on. So, it should be cool.
Jet Pak, Lunar Jetman, Solar Jetman, Jet Force Gemini....
...GIEF MOAR JETMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Oh, and bring back the comics too!)
It is a bit odd to see the old Rare Nintendo 64 titles on the XBox One, and not on any modern Nintendo console at all. I understand the reasoning, but it still feels weird.
@anders190: I don't think Nintendo would be interested in making a collection of this type of value. They would rather do minimal work with the games and sell them for $5-$10 a pop.
It would be nice to have a Rare Anniversary game for the Wii U. Get rid of the XBox exclusive games. Add in some of the Nintendo catalog and sell it as a seperate title with majority of the same games but a few tweeks. That is business though and Microsoft isnt gonna hand a game to its rival just because of history.
Still it is a pretty cool compilation of work, and despite the "What Rare is now vs then" debate, it shows the quality of works they have produced over 30 years
I know! I would love to get the DKC games, all the Battletoads, Snake, Rattle n Roll and all the franchises I missed out on for the 3DS/WiiU. I'd be in gaming heaven!
@ottospooky I completely agree with you, there was no point in saying a gamer doesn't deserve a collection of premium games simply because of their console of choice.
I personally recently purchased an Xbox One just so I can play this collection (mostly Viva Pinata, I am obsessed with it) and can't wait to play it tomorrow.
It doesn't feel like the X1 and U are direct competitors. The U is getting comparatively killed in the West and the X1 is lucky to outsell the Vita TV in any given week in Japan.
I guess it's nice that it exists so that gamers relatively new to Rare can witness first-hand the magic that was.
And you could argue this is about the only instance where Microsoft are deriving value from their hefty purchase.
I guess business is business, as much as we'd love more flexibility from Microsoft (e.g. Licensing Banjo-Kazooie IP to Playtonic)
... Or, you could just buy the console in question and stop complaining about all the games that the Wii U can't give you. I'm sorry, unless you only care about "Nintendo" games, that's pretty much all you're going to get. Nintendo let Rare go in 2002 and they were purchased by Microsoft. Why exactly would this collection be on a Nintendo console?
this console generation sucks.
@larry_koopa thank you for your comment, it really needed to be said.
Honestly, you Nintendo fans live in the damn past, Rare it's no longer with Nintendo anymore, it's been freaking 13 years since they have been with Nintendo and they where only with Nintendo for 7 years!! Buy the games on there original Nintendo systems, or buy a Xbox one Nintendo is only for Nintendo games, so unless you wanna only play Mario, pokemon, and Zelda, buy a Xbox one or ps4 already
I'm glad I picked up an Xbox One a few months ago for reasons like this. I've already reserved my copy of the game and will be picking it up tomorrow for sure.
@Chaoz Kirby's Dream Collection official site. MSRP of $39.99.
http://kirby.nintendo.com/dreamcollection/
My childhood blew by Rare games so no nostalgia as a Sega/Gameboy kid
@KillScottKill You can't really compare The Rare Replay to Kirby's Dream Collection. MS is basically giving away games (or at the very least really under pricing them) in The Rare Replay.
Wouldn't it be nice if Nintendo and Microsoft agreed to re-publish Diddy Kong Racing as DLC for Rare Replay AND in Wii U VC? Everyone would be a winner...
@moomoo @Aromaiden Probably, and I see the intentions behind that, but it still doesn't feel right to me.
@Cyber-BLP-- Can't say I know much about that, since I'm not part of a MS or Sony community. But I generally don't like it when people start attacking consoles for having/getting good games. XBone really needs some variety and profile, and the Rare Replay is a good way to get a bit retro action on it, when a lot of stuff on the console is catered towards the dudebro archetype.
@Cyberbotv2 I was still a kid when I first played my N64 games. Except for Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, I've always felt like Rare was better than Nintendo. Yeah, they copied ideas but their games were better. Some of them I couldn't get because my parents wouldn't buy me everything. Now I'm an adult like many of you, with a job and boring stuff to do, I only want to dive into these old Rare games and it's exciting that many of them are going to be new to me.
Perfect Dark remake, Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie with better frame rate and resolution, Jet Force Gemini, Killer Instinct Gold, Conker's Bad Fur Day and the more recent Xbox360 games. I agree with you guys, the console war is just too silly. This generation I bought a Wii U first, I'm disappointed and happy at the same time about it, and I want to keep it and can't wait for Fatal Frame/Project Zero 5. Then I bought the PS4, best controller I've ever tried and enjoying The Last of Us Remastered so much because I've never played the original version. And now, Rare Replay...
In short, it's time to buy an XOne.
What strikes me is how Nintendo seemingly refuses to leverage its vast library of top-notch I.P.s in any kind of exciting way. One would have thought that something along the lines of a SNES 3D Classics lineup would have already graced the handheld.
Of course it's not on the Wii U. Rare's owned by Microsoft. Anywho, this is actually something that makes me consider getting an Xbone...considering. I got an Xbox 360 before, and now it's just collecting dust, so I need to think about it some more in order to avoid paying money for a system that I very well could end up ignoring after a while.
@Ralizah Sega is showing more love to 3DS than Nintendo in that sense.
@Ralizah Maybe for the NX (whatever it ends up being).
Almost makes me want to get an Xbox One ive seen this for around £13, almost i said.
No Xbox One needed
1) Buy Rare compilation
2) Obtain necessary emulators and games for PC
3) Put box on shelf and play emulated games knowing that you own a copy of the originals
Of course you don't get the extras, or even really the X360 games (no emulator I believe). Also not legally in the clear in most places, even if the games were somehow obtained from the disc, but as close as a non Xbox One owner can come.
Anyone remembered when Disney reaquired Oswald how they worked out a deal in which Disney owns the rights to the orignal 26 Oswald shorts and everything after that belonged to Universal. I always thought NIntendo and MS could work out a similar deal where Nintendo gets the rights to any Rare titles that were originally released on Nintendo systems
All these games would be put on the eshop if Nintendo had their way, £35 or £150 if someone bought all of them at an average of £5 each is a no brainer for greedy Nintendo! I salute you Microsoft and may get an xbox one for this.
@Aromaiden Because Xbox nearly has no good platformers. So bored of the system.
This does look like a great compilation, it's really quite sad what Rare has become since Nintendo do sold them. Microsoft didn't even trust them with the Killer Instinct revival
@Wolfgabe the did get $400 million for Rare, can't say Microsoft has made that investment back though. This game compilation should make a good dent though.
Still have my N64 with the two Banjo games. N64 still has the best games ever made! I prefer the N64 over the Wii U any day.
I don't see how this game's Xbox One exclusivity is "tragic," nor do I understand the argument that Microsoft and its fans don't "deserve" this game, while Nintendo fans do. Rare and all of its IP are 100% owned by Microsoft, and it's been that way for well over a decade. The fact that a game like this hasn't happened sooner is honestly baffling, as it's a fantastic way to reintroduce Rare's entire stable of characters to Xbox users.
Nintendo fans love to gloat that Rare "isn't any good anymore," and that "they're just a shadow of their former selves," but the moment they release a product that appeals to them, they say it should be on their system? Why? What does Rare owe all those fans who piled on top of them when they were down?
In a perfect world without all the legal complications, obviously, a collection of Rare's greatest games would include its Donkey Kong games, Diddy Kong Racing, Goldeneye, and Star Fox Adventures. But we don't live in a perfect world, sadly. Given the circumstances, it looks like Rare did about as great a job with the collection as they could.
@emayer Honestly speaking, those types of people only represent a small minority. I wouldn't place to much significance on what they say.
I need Banjo-Kazooie in my virtual console life forever asap
I didn't know Cobra Triangle was a Rare title, haven't played that one in ages.
It's a good thing I owned most of rare games on my n64 so I won't have to suffer.
@GreatPlayer The lack of platformers this generation does suck and I hope Yooka-Laylee lives up to expectations to help fill the void.
Best non Nintendo exclusive between PS4 and Xbone. The fact its a bunch of games from decades ago is pretty sad.
I truly hope that people that have an Xbox One enjoy this gem. If I ever pick up an Xbox One, this will be a day one purchase.
There's a good reason why Nintendo declined to buy Rare. The Stampers and consequently most of the core staff were gone or leaving. Rare without their talent was just an empty shell.
@Chaoz
I wish the Kirby love came to AU/NZ... Nintendo never bothered to include us
(I would have even buy the Kirby collection on VC if it was released)
This is when it's a good thing to own all 3 systems cause you never know when a gem like this will come along...picking up my copy tomorrow!!
Just bought my copy of Rare Replay, and a 2nd controller for some Perfect Dark co-op campaign shenanigans. I am an Xbox One owner & I deserve this game!!
@Ichiban Well of course you do. You went through the trouble of purchasing the console and are no less deserving than anyone else. Anyone who says otherwise are being foolish and selfish (also maybe a little bit jealous).
@VanillaLake : You're speaking to the choir! Preach on! Many of those N64 games from Rare were just so polished and ridiculously good. Microsoft has said they will likely have DLC ready for this. Can you imagine a cleaned up Goldeneye? Or one of their many licensed games, which I'm sure Microsoft will pay for. Yeah, I do miss those times with my N64, before friends passed away or moved on. If I can even feel a little of that for a moment, I'm good.
@Mk_II The buyout happened in 2002. The Stamper brothers left in 2007. Many of Playtonic's key members, including Chris Sutherland, have only left Rare in the past year or two. This narrative that no one good was still with Rare as soon as they went to Microsoft is just blatantly not true. Some of Rare's big names from the Nintendo era are still actually with Rare, like Gregg Mayles.
maybe it will end up on Steam
@KillScottKill but it has a whole new game built in designed specifically for this edition that has never been rereleased.
@Ryno - Little Finger giving the middle finger to Wii U owners, nice. I liked the fun fact too.
No mention of amino Tap in the article is a shame. Nintendo gives us a free game, where all we have to do is spend $13 each for 30 amiibo and we get to play about 10 minutes each of 30 different very old games. The parallels don't end there, as the main menu and start up screen have a similar overall feel. Of course Rare went the extra mile w/ all those bonus vids.
The real tragedy is Nintendo has never made a really good compilation. Look at all the Sega collections, Sonic or otherwise. Metroid Prime Trilogy was a decent deal recently, but around the same time I bought the Mass Effect Trilogy for $4.80 on PSN. There's your tragedy, Nintendo not giving it's fans a deal. Look at all the weekly sales on the eShops, how many Nintendo games are on there?
I'll give Nintendo credit for the 3DS ambassador program, that was a pretty good value for the extra $70 those early adopters paid, but since? I'm still waiting for a Wii U budget line.
This is a great deal for some great games at a great price, period.
I've never liked Rare much. The only games I liked from them was Killer Instinct, DKC and DKC 2. I wasn't sad when they left Nintendo.
@Aromaiden I'm not the one who made the comparison.
The only reason you think Microsoft is basically giving these away is because of Nintendo's own overpriced model. The NES games on the eShop aren't worth the $5 a pop or whatever they cost. Not with the god awful excuse for emulation that Nintendo is running.
@Ryno Well said! Wish I could play the collection. Nintendo definitely needs to start lowering the price of some of these VC games, at least have sales, or offering bundles like this. We all know they won't, so I'm just glad I have saved the classic games I want via cartridge. How many times with these VC do you have to pay for a game over and over again, lol.
@KillScottKill No, the reason I say that it is under priced and figuratively being given away is because to me it seems unreasonable that each game's worth would be so little that all thirty put together would cost 30 dollars. Especially when considering that Viva Pinata and Banjo and Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts separately are normally worth around 10 dollars each. Together those two games alone would normally cover two-thirds of Rare Replay's price, and they are only two of the thirty packaged games.
This and Fallout 4 are the games I plan on getting when I pick up an Xbox One sometime next year. (My brother has a PS4, but it's likely he won't give it up when I move out next year....and I wouldn't mind giving the giant VCR a chance) RC Pro AM ll is super expensive!!!!!!!!! One rare NES game to keep an eye out for...so this collection is prefect for the cheapskate in me!
Well Nintendo only has themselves to blame for that but I agree a Nintendo release of rare replay would be absolutely amazing. I will be enjoying conkers bad fur day on the xbox one tomorrow then
As an answer to the title of the article: Yep.
To all the people claiming the bundle is too cheap: I disagree. 30 Euro is a fair amount of money. From those 30 games maybe 9 or 10 are interesting for a Nintendo fan (in my opinion/experience) and none of them are new. So you're buying old titles that you could also buy or still have for the old consoles. It's not like MS/Rare did have to develop them from scratch, so it didn't cost them much (if anything at all).
So MS definitely DOES make a profit with this collection, it's not just a fan service. Don't confuse MS with Nintendo. If it wasn't profitable MS surely hadn't released Rare Replay.
Wait wait wait, so you don't think that people who own the Xbox deserve this game? Give me a break, that's just straight up fanboyism right there. Sure, it would be nice if it was on the Wii U, but Microsoft bought Rare 13 years ago. That's how the industry works, you don't get everything you want. Having to buy an Xbox to play this is quite annoying, but saying people who own it don't deserve this game just reeks of petty jealousy.
Think I still have all my fav Rare carts stored somewhere... About the only thing I'd be bummed about would be if the multiplayer titles had online play on Xbox Live this time around.
Just purchased from Zavvi this morning £16.99 , good stuff.
At last I can play some decent games on the xbone.
I pre-ordered my copy and am rushing to pick it up the minute my local EB Games opens!
I'll be picking up my copy tomorrow. I especially can't wait to play Blast Corps again.
Everyone saying Nintendo wouldn't know how to leverage their titles like this or give such good value, well it did take Microsoft 13 years to do anything with Rare's back catalogue. Nintendo has given some killer deals in the past too, like Bayonetta for free or the free game with MK8.
As if Nintendo would ever do this. I've seen their VC prices and their strategy of charging people over and over to play the same games. Nintendo and MS are worlds apart on this kind of thing.
Looks like I will still never get to play Conker's BFD. The day I buy an XBot machine is the day I eat my own vomit after consuming ten pints of lager with a steaming hot prawn madras curry with all the trimmings, mixed together with chewed up dog food.
I... I think this is the first time I've ever wished I had an Xbox.
How's the framerate on the N64 games on this? Has that been ironed out too like the resolution or is it still a 15~20FPS fest?
Sigh. Even after all these years I still wish this had not happened (microsoft acquiring rare). Nothing good really came from this. I mean look at where we are now. Look at the condition Wii U is in. Lot's of people will say that the N64 was the better system simply because of Rare. It certainly sold better than Wii U. If nintendo still had Rare it would be a big help. More diverse IPs, and a team of 200 employees that could pump out at least one game a year. The sad part is that nintendo actually had the chance to fully buy rare, since the stampler brothers went to them first. But nintendo refused. One of their many dumb decisions.
@rjejr
Amiibo tap lets you tap ANY amiibo and then a random game is chosen for you to try. You don't have to buy 30 amiibo. You should try it first before commenting.
@beautifulstrong But the game is then saved to the amiibo (e.g. Mario gives F-Zero, that means when you tap Mario in the future F-Zero will always appear) so to get all 30 you need 30 amiibo.
This should be no surprise to anyone and for me this just gives another reason to get an Xbox One, as if I needed more. Most of these games may have come out on Nintendo consoles but if I have to get an Xbox One in order to play Jet Force Gemini and Conker's Bad Fur Day on a new console then I have absolutely no problem doing that. There was more love and effort put into this compilation than I have seen for most of Nintendo's own collections.
i find the comment that it's 'too cheap' and 'undermining' the quality of the games absolutely hillarious. some of the mental gymnastics that nintendo fans will jump through to justify the lame virtual console pricing. it doesn't matter if it's fan service or not, MS has put together an incredible package for the money and should be applauded. the fact about there being more N64 games available on the XB1 than Wii U is also very funny! Nintendo have dropped the ball in all sorts of ways...
@Grumblevolcano @beautifulstrong Thank you Grumble. Oh, and I did try it w/our 3 unboxed amiibo. My youngest still plays it occasionally while he's waiting for others to join him to play other games. Have you tried it?
We will always have StarFox Adventures
@Grumblevolcano Oh, one thing, maybe a language issue, but I'm fairly certain the game isn't saved to the amiibo, that would delete all the SSB and MP10 data, the game keeps track of what amiibo unlocks what game. Wouldn't want to make people needlessly worry about losing their data.
@BinaryFragger @larry_koopa @hYdeks
Couldn't have said it better than you guys. The idea that MS fans "don't really deserve" this collection is a load of hypocritical garbage. Any Bayonetta fan could've made the same argument - that Nintendo fans "don't really deserve" Bayonetta 2, since Platinum never made the original for a Nintendo console. If you're a Nintendo fan who welcomed Bayonetta 2 with open arms, you have to be okay if other companies get your favorite games too.
Here's a novel idea: rather than crying about how other consoles have games that yours won't play, rather than demonizing other companies who put games on consoles other than yours, maybe you can just save up and buy the other console.
That's the allure of "exclusives", folks. This is not anything new, and it's something many of you should already be familiar with as Nintendo fans. If you want games from Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Guerilla Games, and third parties, you buy a PS4. If you want games from Retro, Next Level Games, and Nintendo's other studios, you buy a Wii U/NX. And imagine this: if you want games from 343, Turn 10, third parties, and now Rare, you need an Xbox One.
If you want a game, get the platform it's on. That's my soapbox.
@Aromaiden
You opinion is warped because you are so used to getting gouged by Nintendo's exorbitant prices for VC games.
On every other console and PC, you can download games that are 10X larger than anything on Rare Replay for $5 or less. Nintendo is the only company that artificially keeps their game prices high to increase their perceived "worth".
It's a shame it won't appear as they could make the definitive collection of Rare on the Wii U. Phil Spencer has even stated before that they have worked with Nintendo over Rare games with no issue before (Diddy Kong Racing DS). https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/04/xbox_boss_phil_spencer_reckons_it_would_be_cool_if_rares_banjo_was_voted_in_as_super_smash_bros_dlc
@HollywoodHogan No, I've never purchased nor really cared for VC games from Nintendo. So my opinion is not being "warped" by it. I'm basing it off of my known knowledge of some of the games and their normal prices.
@Trikeboy
Don't let yourself believe that Microsoft is guilty at all for preventing the companies from working together.
There is no chance in hell that Nintendo would EVER let Donkey Kong appear in an Xbox game.
I never would of thought I would consider getting a Xbox One just for a game. This might be my Zelda for the console.
@Aromaiden
I'd argue a little more than half of the games includes are pretty much "worthless" at this point in time, and that nobody on earth would purchase titles like Knight Lore, Jetpac and Solar Jetman individually for more than $0.10.
Again, there are much better bargains on Steam, PS4 and other consoles than this. Most people won't even play all 30 games anyway. By the sounds of it, many people are basically paying $30 just to get the N64 games.
Shame we have to miss these...
I don't own an Xbone or a PS4, and if I were to get one, it would be a Sony console.
@Wii-1
"Nintendo games are more valuable than that."
Why? Because they fooled you into thinking so?
I could open a torrent and download the entire NES/SNES library in all of 3-5mins. Every. Single. Game. Ever.
Paying $5 for a game rom that is 1.3MB in size in absurd.
Nintendo would rather sell 10,000 downloads of a NES game at $5 each than sell 2 million downloads at $1, just to show the "value" of their games. It's idiotic.
@HollywoodHogan Didn't you read my comment? I was talking about a Wii U definitive version of the collection, not making the definitive version on Xbox.
@HollywoodHogan
"Why? Because they fooled you into thinking so?"
It's what people perceive for value. If you're going to make an argument with someone, it's important not to act like the person's somehow stupid for thinking differently.
"I could open a torrent and download the entire NES/SNES library in all of 3-5mins. Every. Single. Game. Ever."
And why should anyone do that? If anything, it's lazy because you KNOW there are ways of buying these older games officially but you don't care because you unintentionally act like everything is entitled to you.
"Paying $5 for a game rom that is 1.3MB in size in absurd."
Don't you mean "IS absurd"? Secondly, it's none of your business what people choose to do with their own money.
"Nintendo would rather sell 10,000 downloads of a NES game at $5 each than sell 2 million downloads at $1, just to show the "value" of their games. It's idiotic."
What the hell are you on about? You act like it's somehow a SCAM that Nintendo's not throwing away games at absurdly low prices. Considering that a lot of games on the Virtual Console either cost too much on places like eBay (like Earthbound) or never made it to other countries at the time of their release, these prices seem reasonable compared to online. Also, I feel dirty having to emulate games I can't own officially either because region locking on a system from a while ago, it wasn't translated officially or I don't have the system for the game. I feel good buying something officially now than ever emulating it. I prefer the real deal over what is basically piracy.
@Achoo Rare redifined the console FPS (camera, speed, couch co-op, reload function) with goldeneye, and again with perfect dark.
Rare created the best platformers, even to this day the Banjo series and Conker have OUTSTANDING platforming with great level design.
Rare made one of the best brawlers with battletoads, which is great, albiet tough as nails.
Rare made one of the best fighting games ever, killer instinct.
Rare made the only other kart racer that innovated and can stand next to Mario kart when the made Diddy Kongs racing.
Rare bought 3D graphics to the SNES, and pretty much defined the 2.5D graphics style with Donkey Kong Country.
They did things that hadnt really been done before, with blast corps and the amazing crudeness that is Conker's Bad Fur Day.
Heck even at microsoft they created Viva Pinata which is in a genre of its own and has amazing charm and is critically acclaimed.
I think Rare are a different company now, but it might just be a good thing now, their new game Sea Of Thieves, which looks good so far, i will definitely pick it up because it is being released on PC too. They certainly weren't over rated, Rare in the Nintendo days where the most consistently fantastic developer out there.
Oh also, on the price of virtrual console, old games are one of the only things i dont care about emulating, they just cost too much on virtrual console.
@Trikeboy A hypothetical Rare Replay on a Nintendo console would by no means be "definitive" either, as it wouldn't contain any of Rare's Xbox or Xbox 360 output.
Did anyone see the announcement of Rash in Killer Instinct for Xbox One?
It was pretty cool. He actually looks so good that it makes we want to see a full game done with the characters and stuff up to that level of quality. Now that could be something pretty special.
@Achoo Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie are probably the two best 3D platformers ever created.
@emayer It's very subjective and opinionated. The idea of a best anything, in regards to games is always changing due to a constant additions of newer and improved games.
@Aromaiden True! And you're welcome to have a different opinion. It's also subjective and opinionated to say that Rare's entire output was overrated and subpar (ahem, @Achoo). All I know is that I played both Kazooie and Tooie for the first time this year and was absolutely blown away by both of them. The last Mario game I've played that immersed me to an extent anywhere close to what the Banjo games achieved was Galaxy 1.
@SirQuincealot one of the most boring games I have ever player. Game sucked hard!!
The only reason I'm getting this is because of Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day and Perfect Dark, all N64 games I loved. Unfortunately I do not own a copy of Bad Fur Day and I don't have Banjo-Tooie. But for 30$USD, I can't complain, at all. The physical N64 copy would be the gem to have but I can settle on saving the money for Conkers BFD, with there physical copies skyrocketing, even for ones that aren't in the best condition.
@FlaygletheBagel I actually laugh at these console fanboys who refuse to buy other consoles. Missing out on great games because you feel you need to be loyal to one company is so absurd its unreal.
Definitely a few exist who visit this website. Actually feel sorry for people that only have a Wii U.
Am I the only person who believes this compilation is a short-term, one-hit-wonder for the contemporary Rare and the Xbox One's limited appeal?
@MrWarner14 : I agree about emulation and all this torrent downloading. If you want to access something, from movie, games to music, I always believe in rewarding the artist. Especially for games. Rare Replay is a great way around this, since they have developers diaries, video commentaries, and an overall improved presentation.
This is, for me, a reason to get the Xbox One. At least if you're not a PC guy and don't like emulators (I detest them). I have over half of these games on the original consoles, but it's nice to have them in one collection (not to mention that some games REALLY benefit from the upscaling and HDMI output; Banjo-Kazooie has never looked so good).
I'm a rabidly loyal Nintendo fan, but not to the point of only having one console per generation; today is a GREAT day to own an Xbox One, and I plan to play that console exclusively for the next several days at least.
@MrWarner14
This entire post is like a creed for my life. I hate emulators and refuse to use them for anything except fan-made hacks (Zelda Outlands and Super Mario Frustration, for example). They're dirty, they're unethical, and they just don't feel right. I don't get onto people as much if it's a game that you can't buy in a way that benefits the developers - a lot of Atari 2600 games, for example - but I still would rather dust off my 2600 and shell out the money on Amazon to have the actual cartridge any day.
I think it would be really intresting if it was released for PC.
I'm probably not going to own an XBox One, so I'd love to get my hands on these in a way slightly more likely than on a Nintendo system.
I'm really loving my Wii U & Xbox One combo right now!
I also wished this was on the Wii U, but eh. One more reason to buy an X1! XD
C'mon, people. The Rare Replay games are absolutely fantastic... don't go turning your back on the games just because it's not on a Nintendo console. (To the writer especially) Sure, some of the games achieved their perfection on Nintendo systems, but that doesn't mean other gamers don't deserve to play the games.
Welp, reading the comments here, and majority of the comments are absolutely ridiculous in one way or another. Shame...
@MrWarner14
"Also, I feel dirty having to emulate games I can't own officially either because region locking on a system from a while ago, it wasn't translated officially or I don't have the system for the game"
Sorry you feel guilt pangs when you play a rom of a 25 year old NES game that is no longer being produced or distributed. You should speak to a psychologist about that.
You must live a thrilling life.
@ElkinFencer10
So you would rather pay a guy on eBay an exorbitant amount for a second-hand physical copy of a game, when none of that money goes to the developer or publisher, rather than just play the ROM because of some imaginary guilt?
You may as well just play the rom then, as no one involved with the creation of the game is seeing any profit from that.
@BinaryFragger No no, that wasn't what I meant. But the difference is still this one:
Nintendo takes more risks when making games and consoles, and the main risk is not making profit.
And sure, Nintendo still makes profit, but their games are designed with heart and passion, their focus is on the gameplay first. This way they make profit through quality.
MS and other companies mostly have their main focus on making profit, the gameplay and everything else comes after that and has to lead to profit, otherwise it won't be in the game. Or in other words: They take no risks and you rarely (not saying never) see passion in their games.
@shani
"MS and other companies mostly have their main focus on making profit"
Which I guess is why Nintendo sells 15 year old games for $10 on VC or why some four year old 3DS games are still $39? Because Nintendo doesn't care about profits??
Get real.
@HollywoodHogan No, just read my comments and don't hallucinate stuff.
I never said Nintendo wasn't about profits. It's just not their only core goal (otherwise their games wouldn't be so polished and acclaimed).
@shani
Then are you insinuating that no other game developers produce quality titles, and are only in it to make profits?
Or would you just like to admit your statement is wrong?
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@HollywoodHogan So...you're saying that it's okay to use emulators? As in, something that's technically illegal? And is kinda like pirating games?
@HollywoodHogan Neither of those (although I'm tempted to agree with the first statement, but it would be wrong).
There several ways to making a good product. One is being passionate, trying to go the innovative way and doing what you think is good, no matter if people will buy it or not.
And one way is just looking what the masses demand for and giving it to them.
Also, what a "quality game" is supposed to be differs depending on who you ask.
If you read all my posts in this discussion, it should get clear:
#153: MS does make a profit with Rare Replay
#169: @BinaryFragger claimed I would "think Nintendo releases games solely out of the kindest of teir heart", although I never stated anything in that direction.
#213: Nintendo takes more risks than any other developer and namely, this risk is not making profit at all. Name me one other big studio that does that. No one takes such risks if not out of passion. MS and Sony never took any of those risks. Example given: they added motion controls to their hardware AFTER Nintendo proved that there is a market for that. But to prove that, Nintendo had to take a huge risk of failing. So in a way, Nintendo does all the work for the other companies who are too cowardly (although they have the financial background since they are both large multi-million companies with several lines of business).
Also, I deliberately wrote "mostly", because of course there are others who do it out of passion. I didn't write "no other game developers" because I usually don't make such absolute statements.
@Royalblues Was the part about the virtual console supposed to be a demonstration of me being hypocritical? 'Cause what I was talking about was that @HollywoodHogan was essentially saying that it's okay to use emulators, which is technically illegal. It isn't like Rare Replay or the Virtual Console where you actually BUY old games. It's essentially owning a game...without actually paying for it. Using an emulator essentially counts as stealing. I admit that I have used emulators before, but I'm past that. It was something I shouldn't have done, and I'm sorry. As for the second part, I'm guessing that's referring to this article. I have to agree with that. Microsoft owns Rare. They can do whatever the Hell they want with Rare's ips. This whole article just sounds like someone complaining because he can't get something.
As much as I'm looking forward to this... It's essentially a reminder of all the games that Rare don't make anymore. The N64 was my first home console and Banjo K/T were a big part of my childhood. That fact that a true Banjo adventure has yet to see the light of day is truly sad... one of the greatest games companies with some truly memorable IP's has just been left to rot for 13 years despite being own by one of the leading names in gaming. During Rare's long Microsoft years, I've never understood why they bought the company if they had no intention of use them to make Rare games??? It's just sad.
As much as I'm looking forward to this... It's essentially a reminder of all the games that Rare don't make anymore. The N64 was my first home console and Banjo K/T were a big part of my childhood. That fact that a true Banjo adventure has yet to see the light of day is truly sad... one of the greatest games companies with some truly memorable IP's has just been left to rot for 13 years despite being own by one of the leading names in gaming. During Rare's long Microsoft years, I've never understood why they bought the company if they had no intention of use them to make Rare games??? It's just sad.
@HollywoodHogan Your sarcasm oozes from your comment. Also, I don't emulate NES games. I don't see value in doing that.
@MrWarner14
Not using an emulator and buying a rare NES game off eBay for $75 is where the true value is ray:
When talking NES, I regard Wizards & Warriors as being the best games from RARE apart from Battletoads. I always hoped for a new game in that series, but seing those being left out of this collection means there's zero hope of ever seing a new entry in the series again. What a waste.
I usually don't care much about these things, but Jet Force Gemini and some others would be real nice to have and XB1 is the last console I'd want. Some of the new features coming are okay, but I'd do PS4 if anything, but in reality we are PC/Mac plus Nintendo plus iOS for gaming. That's more than enough.
Great package, great value. It's just sad to me what happened to Rare even before Microsoft bought them.
@emayer Gotta agree here. It's sad to see some of the comments on here talking about how MS doesn't deserve these games. Of course they do. Just like Nintendo deserves the games they get. It's not MS's fault Nintendo didn't buy the studio. MS simply just stepped up and acquired the games.
@rjejr: I'm late to the party with the reply but you are absolute treasure to read around here.
I had some great times with Perfect Dark... Nobody is going to have time to play that game, these days....
This Article is a joke, just a salty fanboy crying that games that he grew up with are on a rival console, o well too bad
instead of crying and blaming Microsoft and saying ridiculous things like Xbox fans don't deserve this why not point the blame where it actually belongs, at Nintendo
Nintendo failed to purchase Rare and their IP's and that is the reality at the end of the day
so do the world a favor, and grow up go buy an Xbox one and play these games if you want them so bad
One thing I will say now I've gotten my hands on this compilation...until they patch the controls, Jet Force Gemini is near unplayable on the Rare Replay compilation, for me at least. They've remapped the C-buttons to the right analogue stick, so when you go into 'aim' mode, you aim with the left stick and move with the right stick. It feels alien and counter intuitive to just about every other dual analogue shooter ever made where you move with the left stick and aim with the right stick.
It would have worked much better if you could have replicated the original N64 controls and remapped the C-buttons to ABXY, but unfortunately there's no option for that. It feels so horrible to control on Xbox One that I'm doubting it was even playtested. Apparently there's a patch due out for it soon, that's how bad it is.
The other games all seem fine so far though.
@Achoo well, i wasn't from the Rare era, the first console i played was a GameCube, i have just played rare games on emulators. Its your opinion i guess, but you cant say battletoads wasn't amazing just because you dont like the genre, the game is still an outstanding brawler, i personally prefer Diddy Kong racing to the MK series, and i think it is a poor perspective to just expect every kart racer to have the same control style as MK, the controls are meant to be different. Donkey Kong country had amazing graphics for its time, and the same thing can be said about many old games that looked great back in the day.
@Ryno - Don't worry about being late, it's summer, I'm about 3 days behind on emails myself. (Imagine a smiley face here, I hate the new emoticon style and am refraining from using them.)
@HollywoodHogan If Nintendo sold a hard-to-find game on the Virtual Console for a cheap price, I'd rather do that. Besides, even if I did do that, I don't even own an NES.
Oh this isn't as bad as I thought. I actually thought about buying a One before PS4 (or NX as besides rare sales the current systems are not going down in price)
But it looks like it doesn't have the arcade versions of KI and doesn't have BT vs DD and BT snes. The only reason I would want it now is BT nes and Jet force Gemini of which I don't have the games(still have all my systems).
In other words it can wait but it will be the first purchase when I get a One. Well this and KI.
"Star Fox Adventures is also understandably absent - although many won't lament that fact." Hey now, I really liked this game!
Straight to number 1 in the UK charts. People who said xbox owners wouldn't buy it need to eat some humble pie.
@emayer "A hypothetical Rare Replay on a Nintendo console would by no means be "definitive" either, as it wouldn't contain any of Rare's Xbox or Xbox 360 output."
You mean I would miss out on instant classics such as Perfect Dark Zero, Kameo, Grabbed by the Ghoulies and Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts? Oh what tragedy is this?
@Trikeboy Sorry man, a collection purporting to celebrate Rare's 30 years of existence that ignores nearly half of those years would not be definitive or complete. It doesn't really matter what you think of the games released during that time.
Sigh, what should I say about this. Its meant as a celebration for 30 years Rareware, but there's nothing to celebrate since Rare is in a zombie-state. Don't get me wrong, I probably would have gotten it if I had a XboxOne. But its also a bit sad to see that you get 30 games for 30 Dollars. This would have never happened at Nintendo, its a complete sellout. And the saddest thing is: (Almost) Nobody will buy it since (Almost) nobody cares anymore!
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