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@Krambo42 You are right. Someone later mentioned on YT that it's not all of them.

All these new Atari games are also released on their Atari VCS console.

Yes, the console we didn't knew still existed.

Steam version currently cost 2 bucks on sale.

I bought it there.

@Justifier Microsoft is the best example.
They upgraded Xbox One versions for Xbox One X almost 10 years ago.
They did the same from Xbox One X to Xbox Series X.

What most don't know is that PC games also frequently comes with 2-3 different sets of assets included in the install to support potato PC's and high spec PC's.

You will notice that if the game requires restart when you set settings too high or too low.

@Not_Soos Two or more separate SKU's are no problem.

Even PC versions of games frequently have 2-3 sets of assets included. Lower settings often have their own assets.

Microsoft always upgraded Xbox One versions for Xbox One X almost 10 years ago.
They did the same for Xbox One X to Xbox Series X.

Sony sold 10$ upgrades of PS4 games for PS5.
Everyone do this already including third parties.

There are no way Metroid Prime 4 for Switch 2 uses Switch 1 assets as they need selling points for Switch 2.

Nintendo are also weird. They downgraded Wii U version of Zelda so it wasn't better than Switch version...

For many years there have been lots of people who spend 1000-1500$ for a phone they swap out every 1-2 years.

At the same time those thought more than 400 bucks for a console that they keep more than 5 years were too expensive...

Times probably changed, because PC Handhelds up over 1000$ sell enough to get new models almost every year already.

If you compare the price of a Handheld to a phone, 500$ isn't expensive.

@KoopaTheGamer Xbox Handheld is pointless if it's just a PC Handheld.
I think it will use Xbox console firmware which means 360 is supported too.

@Jack_Goetz That explains voice chat on Switch.

Fun fact: Wii U had voice chat with headset like any other console.

Voice chat worked even on Xbox 360 which launched in 2005, 20 years ago...

Perhaps it's time for Nintendo to catch up to Xbox 360 and Wii U?

Phil Spencer use the same handheld as me, Legion Go and is why he wanted a Xbox Handheld.

He love Legion Go, but said Legion, Rog Ally, Steam Deck etc. isn't designed for casual people, but for PC Gamers.

@Ultimapunch
If it supports the 1000's of Xbox 360 games and also Xbox One games, it can already run games PC Handheld's can't emulate yet.
A huge amount of 360 games were never released on PC or any other console.
Getting Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Forza 4 and whatever portable for the first time.

360 and One emulation are still in early stages...

@squidduforeal Okay then.

@Dr_Corndog Yeah. Someone told me over 10 years ago wired were obsolete as WIFI 3 or something replaced it...
I remember playing Knockout City online on PC with a friend who used Switch with WIFI.

Switch version were 60 FPS, but WIFI were a big no no in that fast paced game.
He lagged around at times because he didn't use wired.

Anyway. Someone told you already OLED dock have internal Ethernet.
Switch 2 should have it too.

@taito2000 The original Switch isn't slow at downloading at all.
The problem is that you use WIFI instead of wired.

Switch supports the same cheap 10-15$ LAN adapter as Wii U and Wii.

@Dr_Corndog I use wired gigabit on PC, TV's, Switch, Xbox, Wii U, Sony consoles etc.
No WIFI is reliable enough for fast paced online gaming.

People who play online usually use wired connection, because it's 100% all the time and have less input lag than WIFI.

Recently released "Avowed" on PC.

@GinMiguel

The Mario movie were a mess. Fast cuts all the time and most of the time it didn't make sense.

Old Minions and old Pixar movies were far better put together.

The worst mistake with Zelda movie were to involve Sony.

Sony already a hired writer and producer with bad track record, and Nintendo does nothing about it.
It's like Nintendo want the movie to fail.

@Res462
Those good times are gone, and it doesn't get better after the price increases.

1.) After physical almost died, it can take years for many games to even get a 50% discount.
In fact there are 5 year old games that never had more than 20% discount at best.

2.) You don't own digital purchases on Nintendo, Xbox, Sony and Steam stores for example. You pay for a license to play them, but you don't own them.

UBI got away with removing "The Crew" from people's libraries for example and that were a full priced AAA game...

I subscribe to Prime Video, because they give out 20-30 games monthly.
Prime video only cost 7 bucks a month here, because it only includes 4K Streaming and "free" PC games + Xbox games sometimes. Easily worth the money for the games alone.
Half of them are DRM free, so you own them for real.

I still buy a lot of games outside Game Pass.
Right now i'm playing "Awoved" and didn't need to pay 80 bucks for it.

@Dee123 Thanks. I forgot Nintendo blacklisted them, but they deserve it.
Microsoft don't send review codes etc. to toxic gaming sites.
There are gaming sites who only talk bad about Xbox all the time and are always surprised when MS don't send them games, ever...Time for those sites to look in a mirror. lol

@Dee123

First and last time i were on Kotaku site were in year 2004.

They were unreliable and made clown posts even 20 years ago.
That site were always useless.

@Res462

I got some information for you.

When you end Netflix, Spotify, PSN+, Nintendo Online Expansion, Prime Video etc.
You lose access to 100% in all of the subs...

Fun fact: Back in the VHS and DVD days.. When you rented them, you didn't keep them forever...

After games increased to 80$ and 90$ GP are more valuable than ever.
Why own one and done games? You will never play them again anyway.

I won't pay for it anyway as i will play it on Game Pass Ultimate.

GP isn't free, but i won't notice any difference since i paid every month of the year since year 2018.

@LikelySatan There is a trailer of it released yesterday on YT.

@Krull
"Elite" 1984 have never been nominated?
No Man's Sky, X1, Eve and whatever were all inspired by Elite.

That game should have been among the first.

Funny thing is that Goldeneye are running on menu on Xbox right now for 15 minutes for daily Reward points.

I think i would vote for Frogger here.

I own 2 physical Angry Birds games on Wii U.
One of them is the Star Wars one.

It could be one of the best games in 2025 besides the big Robocop story DLC that were revealed today.

This have to be the worst handheld i have ever seen.
Even N-Gage were more suitable for gaming.

• Missing 4 shoulder buttons, D-Pad and Buttons.
• Split screen like this is annoying too.

How is it even possible to play with this thing if you don't have 3-4 hands?
You need 1-2 extra hands for the touch screen controls when using dual analogue...

Another thing. 99.99% of Android developers refused to add controller support in games for over 10 years now.

Android games with controller support died with Ouya, but were supported before Ouya too by Gameloft, Madfinger and some.
Why did they include analogue sticks when nothing supports it?

Most of these 10-15 year old Android games isn't even compatible with newest Android.
Even if they worked, you would need 3 hands to control them.

@tonyp1987
They could but then they would need to port them.
Since Nintendo don't care about porting old games to Switch, they won't care about PC either.

Nintendo didn't even port Mario 64 to Switch. It's emulated at 900p and had a bunch of glitches on top of bad emulation.
N64 emulation were never perfect even on PC after almost 30 years. First N64 emulator came in January 1999.

Meanwhile Mario 64 were recompiled years ago, so it ran native on PC and is superior to the original.

If a random nobody at home can port Mario 64, Nintendo sure can. It's just Nintendo being lazy.
As you probably know, other N64 games runs natively on PC too with support for even for 8K,12K and 16K resolutions, but are still only emulated on Switch...

@Smash_kirby

Denuvo works on all PC handhelds, except for Steam Deck.

Most PC people hate pirated games.
10 years ago when the market were much smaller for example.
The Witcher 3 were released DRM free at the same time as on Steam. Didn't need to be cracked.
Even then it sold millions early and around 30 millions in total on PC. Just shows how much people dislike piracy on PC.
People also want Achievements, Steam trading cards, cloud backup, day 0 patches and whatever in the games. You don't get any of that on cracked versions.

Mario Kart 8 is a EOL Game at this point and Mario Kart 9 were kind of revealed for Switch 2 already.

Denuvo isn't just Denuvo.
The best Denuvo is expensive and most publisher go for the cheaper versions that gets cracked the first week or the first month.
Very few PC games had the almost uncrackable Denuvo as it cost too much.
It's also a system hog which means it would affect sales hard.

Publishers usually remove Denuvo from their PC games 1 year after release if you didn't know, so they don't need to pay Denuvo anymore.

@Smash_kirby Yeah, but Nintendo games are already on PC as they are all emulated.
People would still pay for native versions on PC.
As i said, ONE old game, not all 500 games.
Reading is hard? lol
Nintendo already hired third parties for game ports.
None of the two 1080p Zelda remasters on Wii U were done by Nintendo for example.
Nintendo also hired third parties for Starfox Zero, Advance Wars, Donkey Kong and a bunch of others.
Everyone Nintendo hired also do PC ports.

Anyways. Before Sony and Microsoft had consoles, they also released games on Nintendo consoles.

@anoyonmus They could release one title out of the 500 just to test the market.

@tonyp1987 There was a time when Nintendo released games on around 10 different systems.

Donkey Kong and Mario Bros among others were released everywhere. Commodore 64, ZX Spectrum etc.

Nintendo should have ported the 11 year old Mario Kart 8 to PC, just to get a start there. It would probably have sold millions on PC.

Maybe they will remaster more oldies like Manhunt 2 or something.
It would never be as good as on Wii with motion controls.

@EVIL-C Doom were a bad example as it's removing "fogging" on all locations you were at. Means you can always see where you haven't been in the game map.

And yes, guides are still relevant modern games.

When i completed the new "Indiana Jones and the Great Circle" game, i had to use guide several times as the game doesn't explain much.
It's like the game were released in 1990's and not 2024.

(This Indiana Jones game is the real Indiana Jones 4 movie we never got
Pretend Indiana 4 and 5 movies don't exist.)

@EVIL-C Old games in general didn't have pointers to help you.
Many can't complete Doom either because the later levels are too complex.
On screen pointers is a thing for modern games and is why they are so much easier than old games.
Old games were designed for exploring.

Today it's optional to explore games as you can just speedrun them by following a pointer.

Where is the legendary Twintris from 1991 with the best music of them all?

@Zimon Yeah.

The main problem with VITA were storage options and is why most ignored it.
Only Sony were allowed to make storage cards and the largest one were a overpriced small 64.GB card, when people needed at least 512.GB on it.

I have nearly 1.TB of games on my VITA. According to Sony i should have spent 1500$ to buy their cards to store them all...
Almost all my purchased VITA Games are stored on a USB HDD instead...
(There is a reason why Sony made a backup app...)

Sony sabotaged the sales before it even launched.

I'm fine with Tony Hawk 3+4 remakes.

They have to be remakes as the originals are so dated.
TH 4 are from 2002...

@Jhena
PC/Xbox users got paid by playing games for 6 years or so now, maybe even longer as i didn't discover it until 6 years ago.

You get points for running a Console game for 15 minutes daily.
You get points for running a PC game for 15 minutes daily.
You get points for 5 day streaks, and also 7 day streak.
Points for opening Xbox phone app daily, and also have streak bonus.
Play 4 different games within 30 days, 15 minutes each.
Play 8 different games within 30 days, 15 minutes each.
If you keep the weekly streaks, you also get more weekly bonus points.
You also get some points on phone app daily for completing first level in a puzzle game. Done in 30-60 seconds.
All tasks are easy.

These points can be converted to real money whenever you want.
You can get Xbox or PC games for free.
Even Xbox controller, Xbox consoles and whatever if you stacked a lot of points.
You can also spend points, and pay the rest with own money.

I guess 5 year old Nintendo games will get 3.3% discount instead of 33%.

Microsoft have the best reward system.
You get paid for playing games.

In total i earned around 300-400$ just by playing Xbox games on console and PC.

Anyways. Wii U had the best Nintendo reward program, and then it were downgraded many years ago.

@tobsesta99 That's not the reason at all.

They were forced to do it because of FTC after the ABK deal.
Also because of ABK, Nadella and Shareholders took control over Xbox. They want the money back ASAP.

@DK_Dude333 Yeah, it's a well made game in every way.

@DK_Dude333

Indiana Jones is too heavy for Switch, but it will probably be ported to Switch 2.

I installed Indiana Jones in 2024, and started it recently.
I completed nearly half of it so far.
Awesome game.

@Erigen Banjo will be timed exclusive on Xbox for 1-3 years.

"Xbox Games" are still timed exclusives on release with no mention of other platforms at all.

Day 1 releases on other systems are games like Doom and Call of Duty.

@Samalik I never liked the Funko things either as majority are designed so bad, you can't even tell what they were based on.

I only own around 5 or so, but only because they were looked like what they were based on.

Danger Mouse
Master Chief (Halo)
Yoda
Chucky
Mandalorian
...
I own lots of Totaku figurines because they were much better looking.
Banjo, Conker and like 50 others.

@dew12333 You are right. Console developers don't want to make support for special controllers, and especially not spend extra time to make fancy controls.

Developers who make PC exclusive games have no problem making support for advanced controllers.
It's only a "problem" on consoles.

I liked the Wii U controls too, especially in Splinter Cell Blacklist as it were the gadget.
It had the gyro drone only on gamepad screen only too, so you could survey the map from 2 places at the same time.
TV were from a different angle.
On other systems, the whole TV became the drone...boring.

On Wii U you could use gadgets on the fly using touch, also in Call of Duty.
On other systems you had to fiddle with D-Pad which also paused the game.
COD and SC Blacklist didn't pause on Wii U for anything.
Click on touch pad while you were running...

Wii U Controller were easy to utilize if you ignored gyro support.
It had a full controller with a touch screen.
Adding touch screen controls were straight forward, but still too much for a developer...

If you ever played EA Skate games, you know you can use analogue gestures like moving 45, 90, 180 degree etc.
These kind of controls only works for sports games...

It's impossible to use stick gestures in a shooter, platformer etc. as they are used for camera controls.

@dew12333
Yeah. We can complain about lack of innovation , but people forget that we still have a 25 year old controller setup.
There are only so much you can innovate with current limited controllers.

And as you know, majority of console gamers won't accept advanced controls in games like PC Gamers do.
Limited console controls are the reason why console gamers are missing out on lots of great PC games.

No modern advanced controls, means less innovation.

I remember Steel Battalion on Xbox 360. One of a kind game.
You used Kinect motion controls at the same time as you used controller.
Too bad it were the only game who supported dual controls.
Probably because controls were too complicated for mass market. I loved that control system.

And there are also Starfox and Rayman Legends on Wii U... Controls were too complicated for mass market.

When people won't accept 2 controllers at the same time, they can't expect innovation either.

@Lightsiyd

The Sony show were a disaster, again.
90% of the games were also confirmed for Xbox.

Sony didn't show Venom, Wolverine, Next God of War, Death Stranding 2 and many others as people expected.

@hashkey Nearly all companies in Japan are family owned.
Even Toyota were ran by same family for generations.