TheWPCTraveler

It's crazy.

I don't care, day-one once it comes out. Hopefully, the F2P PC version will fill the servers once the Wii U version releases in the Americas.

@IceClimbers The game has lived on sales that are worse than that for a long time now.

The fact of that matter here is that they have no excuse here because NoE is localizing it and providing a physical print run. They did the same for the fourth game on the Wii.

To me, this reeks of incompetence.

@Spoony_Tech I'm sick and tired of having to deal with NoA, that's why. Once I buy A-Train and maybe a few more games that deserve it (the Arc Systems Works games localized by Natsume, and that FF Tactics look-a-like), I'll see if importing from other regions is worth it.

It's childish, really, but NoE at least tries to get things done. Fatal Frame V being digital-only is the last straw.

That said, I'll still buy games from Atlus and Xseed. You know, physical! Besides, I've found a treasure trove of unsold Atlus LEs, and they happen to be games I don't have yet. EO2U, EMD, SMT Devil Summoner Soul Hackers, all unsold and on the cusp of a price drop. And, if my intuition is correct, a store near me will order lots of copies of Senran Kagura Deep Crimson...

I'm still debating with myself whether to pirate that MGS theme or not, though, considering how Konami has gone.

Pokémon Snap!

Why? Because I want it!

@Jimtaro I can always retort with "Provided the game is good enough, I'll buy it!"

I've seen uninterrupted gameplay footage, so I'm all set for the game since I won't be able to buy digital for my 3DS soon :^)

@Grumblevolcano @ikki5 Grumble about Fatal Frame V being treated horribly at the hands of NoA, then.

Seriously, digital-only and not a single print run like NoE did? And Devil's Third gets one? Seriously, NoA?

@ikki5 see @westman98.
Either way, it doesn't exactly paint a very rosy picture for the 3DS either. Atlus and XSEED are just catching up to the releases in Japan. Sega is putting out another Sonic Boom, while Bandai Namco and Koei Tecmo outright refuse to localize their titles (for physical releases) in the west.

@hYdeks To be honest, if I was picking between the N3DS XL and the 2DS at their respective prices, I'd go for the 2DS considering how comfy it is.

Seriously, if they managed to put a better D-pad on it and made the L/R buttons push in slightly deeper, I'd go for it in a heartbeat!

@Steve_Bowling Thank you. That's quite reassuring.

Guess this goes on the eShop backlog.

How long does it take to beat? 10 hours? 10 minutes? "a bit too short" doesn't tell me anything at all apart from an implication that the game is an hour long.

@BinaryFragger It just turns me off ever so slightly that the 3DS doesn't get those kinds of games, but I know how Conception II came out.

That said, I honestly want to see how that π-play thing the SK producer joked about turns out in real life. He did mention (jokingly) that it could be used for therapeutic applications...

@BinaryFragger The LE of Omega Labyrinth will come with something that looks like a vibrator, as far as I know. Either that or it's an in-game item, I have to go check.

LIFE > HOMETOWN
I just wanted to get that out of the way. Thankfully, the SK producer feels the same.

@Dezzy Hey, at least they can't stop Japan from doing what it likes and making games with lots of life like ω-Labyrinth. And, if they mess with the localization process, the localizer can go the way of NISA.

I'm sorry, but I can't help but cringe every time I see that man. There's something off about him, he feels awfully plastic.

@JaxonH There was a Treehouse live stream during E3 that showed off the game, actually.

@ekreig I want to take it one step further.
Every game henceforth must integrate the Tingle amiibo (they should make one) into the game, be it by unlocking a Tingle outfit or bringing Tingle into the game.

Why don't we have one Tingle amiibo bundled with each and every Nintendo hardware unit sold, too?

@JaxonH Flaw: EO actually got localized during the DS era. All three entries, in fact, occasionally with bug fixes not present in the JP versions. Stella Glow came from the former developer of the Luminous Arc series, so if that got localized, there shouldn't be any doubt about Stella Glow. And...XSEED and Aksys both exist.

Also, one cursory look at the Vita is enough to disprove your point.

And, when you have localization teams like NIS America has, don't you think that you'd rather play the original rather than go for the...poor localization?

@DarthNocturnal Now that I think about it, I meant the amiibo party treatment, but that works too.

I have so many ideas for an entertaining E3 for Nintendo, really.
Like Nintendo revealing a New Super Mario Land and making people think it was going to be their big holiday game, before revealing a new true 3D Mario
Or Shigesato Itoi walking on stage and going on about the virtues of the Mother series...then revealing Shigesato Itoi's Bass Fishing U, before the head of Creatures, Inc. goes up on stage and reveals Mother 4 with Itoi saying that he looks forward to just being the player.

I look forward to such ruse cruises.

@DarthNocturnal I was actually thinking of how Reggie would probably be fine with it, considering how he's already "fired" Bill.

I just wat to see the internet melt down for a minute or two, as if the Federation Force treatment hit F-Zero this time. Then, the real F-Zero game gets revealed and everyone would scream tears of joy

@DarthNocturnal I want Nintendo to make lots of people angry by announcing Captain Falcon's Punch-Out!! with a strong punch to Reggie's face.

On second thought, that might actually make people happy.

Then after that and the trailer, announce new F-Zero game.

@Spoony_Tech Yeah, I realize that. I actually enjoyed EO IV more than Persona Q, when I picked them up side-by-side.

It's just that the timing is horrible, and I actually want the LE for this. I guess I'll end up picking this up as a late birthday present, then.
It's just as horrible as EO2U, which came out just as I was starting classes.

@Grafeaux *as of 30 June 2015

I'd wager that Splatoon has sold in the realm of 400k or so since then.

@Spoony_Tech "$40"
$40

I'm sobbing at how badly-timed this release is, right in the middle of deep schoolwork, and Atlus just goes on ahead and gets me hyped for this LE.
I already had to skip EO2U for now because of the timing, and I'm hoping for a delay for Project Mirai DX so I could catch the LE, now this comes along and I'm too happy to skip it!

@sketchturner The controls take a bit to get used to, but they really feel natural.

That said, I'm not sure if I want to pay $9.99 since no one comes to my house anyway, but I know the single player will be worth it.

So...they're saying we'll have one by end-2015? They've been saying that since March.

I'd think that a Dr. Mario would be nice for mobile. Tetris with a twist, and multiple game modes for people to play with if they choose to pay. The base game is free, however.

I'd rather not have a Mario runner, come on, that's overdone.

@yoshinatsu *on certain games
MK8 is DLC done right and amiibo done decent. Sm4sh is DLC done wrong and amiibo done right. Code Name STEAM has no DLC and amiibo done right. Splatoon has DLC done right, and amiibo done in an okay manner.

Hey Scott, a new Wars title would be nice! Or a Wave Race, too, considering how NST is under NoA.
Or like @ghostjoshu said, a new F-Zero considering how well reception was been so far for FAST RACING NEO?

The Wii U is actually the only console still hooked up in my house. Reason being that the extension cord we used got fried during a storm...

If I can't pull off-TV play with a home console, comfortably, I won't buy it. The Wii U, oddly enough, convinced me that handhelds are for me.

@Peach64 I was actually hoping for more use for the GamePad.

To make a point, I'll use something like Wii Music. It could've been a truly powerful tool, imagine Mario Paint-style composition using the GamePad.
Or, I can use Pilotwings. Modern commercial aircraft are complex to the point where a controller can't hope to even get close to enough buttons to control something like an A320, or an E172. Again, the GamePad could do this with its screen, not to mention its gyro controls.
Or, I could do Battalion Wars or Pikmin. Except, I can now look at TWO places at once! In an RTS!
Or something obvious like Pokémon Snap (or a Fatal Frame HD remake), or that golf game in Wii Sports Club.
Or something touch-focused like a new Osu game (iNiS has gone mobile, though), a new Trauma Team/Center (ATLUS?), a new set of card games referencing Nintendo's origins?
Or a shooter using it as a reticule and a map? Something like Code Name: STEAM, or Valkyria Chronicles (SEGA?)

I know they shouldn't hire me, a lot of these ideas aren't exactly profitable, but someone like me thought of this many ideas to utilize the GamePad in ten minutes, you'd at least think that Nintendo gets it.

@russellohh Seems like they tried to apply 2D shmup stuff to a 3D game...except that they forgot about the stuff that makes 2D shmups good.

@Spoony_Tech You better buy FF Explorers if you hope that'll come to fruition. Oh, and Bravely Second too, because apparently the 3DS isn't big enough of a platform for anything other than spin-offs.

I'd be honest, the original FFT on PSX would really fit on a 3DS, not the PSP port.

I'd rather have the FF VII remake come instead. Or have an FF VI or V one.

New style on TV, old style on GamePad, use -/SELECT to switch.

Is it really that hard to pander to both?

@CrazedCavalier I know I should've expected this, but considering how big fans some of then are of Kibayashi, I thought they'd do less changes to the story.

I think I'll just stick with Nohr and the Invisible Kingdom out of spite at this rate.

@Senario I guess different people have different opinions. I loved how crazy the difficulty changes were in the game - and even then, you can't even relax on the easier maps. And, that doesn't discount how fantastic the music is.

Though, there should've been the option to skip animations from the get-go.

@LordofMentos Since you seem to be so fixated on one minor aspect of the game, let me tell you something.

There are only two characters in the entire set of games who pursue "marriages," of the same gender. They happen to be on opposite routes.
So, unless the localization teams spit on Kibayashi's work and alter the story and characters of Fates, you'll most likely be stuck on the path with (specific marriage option), if you choose to.

That said, I want to marry Dio--er, Zero, no matter what it takes...

EDIT: Gah, I forgot about the Invisible Kingdom. In that case, you can marry both, but it is obscured behind a paywall. Pun not intended.

I arrived here way too late to advocate my position effectively.
Let the devs do what they want. That is my stance on every issue where this happens.

Okay, you get offended. So what? That doesn't give you the right to cry and moan about this, especially if the devs made it so you don't need to do it and it's included in the base game instead of being cut and being DLC.

I like how people cry for "localization changes" for this, though. I mean, just because it's the "right kind" of censorship doesn't make it any less wrong.
That goes for you, @Bagels. That's right, here's your guaranteed reply™ .

You know what? I'll keep talking.

From what I've seen, Fates: Conquest is arguably the best handheld FE game.
The music is fantastic, and actually fits the mood well. (Hoshido has better music in general, though, good enough to stand out in the E3 trailer; that's a win for Birthright)
The graphics are, well, great for an FE game. The touch of having the game zoom into your position nearly seamlessly calls to mind what the Tellius games and Awakening could've done with their graphics.
The RNG-heavy parts of the Awakening support system were scrapped, and pair up is now usable by AI. That gives us a GBA-style battle system where the additions actually flow on naturally, and adds another layer of strategy.
And, as far as I hear, the map objectives in Conquest are not only varied, but downright punishing.
I place my trust in Kibayashi that the story is at least good, though what I've heard for Invisible Kingdom gives me pause for concern. Same goes for the characters and their designs, though the NPCs blow them out of the water.

Thank you for granting me the audience to voice my concerns.
I'll offer parley.

Whoa, now I'm sure it's not just a remake.

Now bring it to the west, Atlus alone isn't enough for this young man's thirst for adventure!

If I could buy shares of Nintendo, I'd put my money where my mouth is, and state emphatically that software moves hardware.

These localization debacles do not help the game droughts that occur sporadically. Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ could have been the big holiday title for the west in 2015 for the 3DS, and Fatal Frame V could prove to Koei Tecmo that the audience for Fatal Frame is most alive on Nintendo platforms.
I could go on.

My point is, I recognize that not a lot of investors share my medium-term view.
I understand that my proposals may burn through more cash that they take in. However, my view is that the company has to take risks in order to get advantages in the long term.

Titles like Taiko no Tatsujin could fill the gap the Wii U gap in terms of rhythm games - which, in my opinion, is ridiculous - Puyo Puyo Tetris could appeal to the same audience as Dr. Luigi. Code Name STEAM out on the Wii U, and marketed correctly, could provide the basis for a Valkyria Chronicles game on the platform.
Again, I could go on.

Remember, software moves hardware. I got a Wii U because of The Wonderful 101...on sale.

@Artwark I doubt they'd even be able to compete with the PSV.

How much are the episodes apiece on other platforms?

@Nintendofan83 DKC:TF has sold around a million or so life-to-date.

You may want to point to the Kirby game.

@Peach64 We can cheat and count all routes as a sale apiece!

I hope the cat tower defense game did well enough to get localized - I mean, it sold nearly 100k sales!

Finally, Nd Cube looks like it'll go to work on something that isn't Mario Party or Wii Party.

In case you don't know, they're largely staffed by former Hudson Soft employees, if I remember correctly.

@Spoony_Tech No comment would suffice unless it was in agreement.

I'd plonk down $60 for it, even...on the Wii U!

@Spoony_Tech I forgot to mention that was a week or so ago. Persona Q outright refuses to have price drops on it, I'm still seeing the LE at $120, actually going up slightly in price.

Then again, the retailer I went to has a knack of having price swings. Rune Factory IV doubled in price back to $40, EO IV and DS Overclocked jumped back to $30, all while SMT IV fell to $20 from $40...

@Spoony_Tech ...and more than half of my 3DS games are published by Atlus...

I'd buy that excuse if they somehow gave us dual audio, though, especially for Persona Q and DS2 Record Breaker. I mean, they can do dual-audio already...for the music, not the voice acting, in EO.

@River3636 Ah, I see. Then again, I prefer not having to walk through a town.
I mean, considering how EO is as a dungeon crawler, I'd rather not have to deal with that structure in towns.

Then again, a real-time EO would be nice...you can see all enemy encounters, not just FOEs, and they actually move around in real-time, just like you. Not only that, you have to draw the map, and the game won't stop for you...

@River3636 EO3U has sailing, so I doubt that they wouldn't skimp out on it and not put an overworld map.
@zipmon Hey, I like sound of that. Though, there's one thing missing...once they finish work on that #FE spin-off, they should work on something in the vein of Radiant Historia...
@Spoony_Tech I thought I'd share something with you.
I found the first print edition of Persona Q selling for ~$40 alongside one without the extras for $50.
It was strange, considering how they were actually selling just the game for $40 until the distributor got a wind of it and made them put it at $50.

@Drac_Mazoku !!
I've been waiting for this!

They didn't ask if he was a kid or a squid.

Very disappointed in those children.

@rjejr You know, they could launch the Nintendo handheld first, then after lots of them have been sold, they can announce a Nintendo console that those handhelds can be paired with!

I realized this just as I read your comment - the bonus is they don't have to bundle a tablet controller with every unit!

I feel like a genius!
Thanks you.

@MrGawain They do it...only in Japan™

Seriously, if they just made their Fire Emblem soundtracks available, I'd be all over them!
Well, the ones for Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, Awakening, and Fates. And Blazing Sword, and Sacred Stones, and Sword of Seals...
I want to stop, but I can't.

@Gerbwmu Hmm, I'd think that Smash for Wii U is doing ~2k a week.
I believe that if you have that, you have reasonable figures for 3D World, NSMBU, Nintendo Land, Wii Party U, and other long-lasting titles.

Oh, and my mistake, I didn't see Yoshi up there, forgive me.