@Blueyesowl83 I did. For real. I’m having a blast with my “broken” upgrade.
And just so you know, all that stuff in the code didn’t magically happen. Someone out in the work to get it there. Is it perfect? No. Whether there will be additional updates? Who knows. If so it wouldn’t be the first time a patch was released for a game.
@Samalik Fixed it just for you. Everything a business does has a budget attached to it. Some projects go over it, some under. Rarely do we know which does what.
I want games to be their best and for developers to improve their work whenever possible. If it means they need to collect additional funds to cover costs then so be it. If they have money left over in the budget to cover it, all the better. Ultimately consumers get to decide whether the investment was worth it.
Enough business 101 for you, I have some Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Switch 2 Upgrade to play.
@Dpullam Funny you should say that, I completely missed X during the Wii U days. Didn’t know it was a thing. I bought this thinking it was the original and it caught me off guard. I didn’t like it either at first, but it has grown on me.
@Samalik Yup. Bought it for the Switch. Awesome thing is that it works fine on the S2 and didn’t have to spend a dime! What’s cool was Monoliftsoft commissioned a team to make a new version of the game and only charge $5 for it, if you want it.
Nintendo isn’t a charity. They take calculated risks to provide a service they believe their customers are looking for. If they do a good job and people like it, they make money and the people remain customers.
They aren’t releasing these new projects out of the kindness of their hearts or to lose money. Only government can get away with taking someone else’s money to give you things for free.
@BLK_4EVER You are still able to play the original version. You are not forced to upgrade. That said resources were used to make the improvements and to test them. Those people did not work for free and are entitled to receive financial compensation for their time. Would you work for free?
@Fishmasterflex96 Correct, I was responding to your, “they could make playable games on disc if they wanted to.”
We might be saying the same thing. They could fit the entire game on a disc if they wanted to, but you would still have to install it on to your SSD. They chose not to do that at all for X-Box and only partially for PS5.
@Fishmasterflex96 The transfer speed of a S2 cartridge is roughly 4x (400MB/s) faster than the optical drives of the PS5 and X-Box whatever. Even if that were fast enough, toss in seek times, and it wouldn’t be playable from a disc. Now selling it on a disc and making it download to your SSD is another topic.
@antlion The scenery looks great, and the music and sound appear to be awesome, but from everything I’ve seen the animation looks like it came from late PS3/early PS4 days.
I’ve just been buying store cards at Sam’s, Costco, etc. when they have decent discounts. Not necessarily huge savings, but rarely is on Nintendo stuff.
@Strawblaze If I had to guess, I’d say somewhere around 50% after you figure in all the engineering time required to get the games running, the hardware design, and making it all work together.
Not saying this is you, but most people don’t realize the amount of R&D that goes in to something like this. Especially for what is basically a limited run for nostalgia nuts like myself. Don’t forget to include packaging, advertising, and freight, both from the factory to the warehouse, and from the warehouse to your door. Material costs are low, engineering costs are high.
@Dimjimmer My guess, this is probably work reserved for in-terms and/or junior developers. Once they prove themselves here they move them on to bigger and better projects. Until someone new comes along this work just sits there.
@Strawblaze it does seem crazy at first, but not when scale of manufacturing and purchase of additional content are added to the equation.
To simplify things, Nintendo is going to sell a lot of these, but probably not in the same numbers as the Meta headset. Also, Meta headsets are sold at a loss (or low profit margin if any profit at all) in the plan that owners need to purchase games for it to function. In addition they get to collection more information on you and turn around and sell that to advertisers.
As we all know Nintendo will not sell anything at a loss. There are no additional purchases to cover for a loss/low profit margin. So they need to make a profit up front on each unit sold.
@Dr_Awkward who said anything about the sex of the character? Save the make believe battles for the games. This game failed for the same reasons Disney Star Wars has failed. Characters no one cares about, and poor quality control.
@Dr_Awkward Screeching? That’s what you want to go with? People said their piece about them. And the people weren’t wrong. The QC on SW was a complete joke. And let’s be honest , if you’re going to have a Han Solo game, put Han in it.
@Pillowpants I wouldn’t say corporate greed, it’s more like corporate decisions. Give the people what they’re not asking for, and do it as lazily as possible. I wouldn’t call that greed. I think corporate arrogance is more fitting.
Generally speaking I’m fine with Nintendo charging for updates when there’s work to be done. That said, charging for the upgrade when the games were developed side by side, and you know there’s going to be a ton of Switch2’s underneath the Christmas tree, just feels wrong.
@electrolite77 You think the number is that high? I think most of the gaming world will continue on not realizing they’re supposed to be outraged by that. 😉
For that kind of money just get the official Pro 2 controller and be able to wake the consol, NFC, and a headphone jack. (Don’t know if you can replace the battery in it.)
@Ellie-Moo I literally am in the process of doing what you’re thinking. I am getting my butt handed to me in Battles. Despite being top 2-3 in my group, I’ve only won one game. I hope this patch helps. Still fun though.
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Re: UK Charts: Mario Tennis Fever Gets Lobbed By Old Favourites
@tourjeff Maybe they didn’t get developer consoles? 🤷♂️
/s 😄
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Gets Nintendo Switch 2 Upgrade, Out Now
@Blueyesowl83 I did. For real. I’m having a blast with my “broken” upgrade.
And just so you know, all that stuff in the code didn’t magically happen. Someone out in the work to get it there. Is it perfect? No. Whether there will be additional updates? Who knows. If so it wouldn’t be the first time a patch was released for a game.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Gets Nintendo Switch 2 Upgrade, Out Now
@Samalik Fixed it just for you. Everything a business does has a budget attached to it. Some projects go over it, some under. Rarely do we know which does what.
I want games to be their best and for developers to improve their work whenever possible. If it means they need to collect additional funds to cover costs then so be it. If they have money left over in the budget to cover it, all the better. Ultimately consumers get to decide whether the investment was worth it.
Enough business 101 for you, I have some Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Switch 2 Upgrade to play.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Gets Nintendo Switch 2 Upgrade, Out Now
@Dpullam Funny you should say that, I completely missed X during the Wii U days. Didn’t know it was a thing. I bought this thinking it was the original and it caught me off guard. I didn’t like it either at first, but it has grown on me.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Gets Nintendo Switch 2 Upgrade, Out Now
@Samalik Yup. Bought it for the Switch. Awesome thing is that it works fine on the S2 and didn’t have to spend a dime! What’s cool was Monoliftsoft commissioned a team to make a new version of the game and only charge $5 for it, if you want it.
Nintendo isn’t a charity. They take calculated risks to provide a service they believe their customers are looking for. If they do a good job and people like it, they make money and the people remain customers.
They aren’t releasing these new projects out of the kindness of their hearts or to lose money. Only government can get away with taking someone else’s money to give you things for free.
Re: PSA: Braid: Anniversary Edition - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Has Finally Arrived On Western eShops
@StorminNorman 😂 The only thing I found is that you feel everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as long as it aligns with yours.
I bought a copy in your honor. 👍
Re: PSA: Braid: Anniversary Edition - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Has Finally Arrived On Western eShops
@StorminNorman Oh boy, another intellectual to provide a distinction without a difference.
Blow has been vocal on freedom of choice, and freedom of consequence from choice. He’s not a collective kind of guy.
You’ve made several responses to my post and have yet added anything to the conversation. Why do so many see him as a bad guy? Help us understand.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Gets Nintendo Switch 2 Upgrade, Out Now
@Samalik I’d argue Nintendo is a a business and not a charity. Unless it’s a promotion, why would they give anything away?
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Gets Nintendo Switch 2 Upgrade, Out Now
@BLK_4EVER You are still able to play the original version. You are not forced to upgrade. That said resources were used to make the improvements and to test them. Those people did not work for free and are entitled to receive financial compensation for their time. Would you work for free?
Re: PSA: Braid: Anniversary Edition - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Has Finally Arrived On Western eShops
@StorminNorman You couldn’t be any more vague. Where am I wrong?
Re: UK Charts: Mario Tennis Fever Serves Up A Decent Debut
How is EA Sports NHL 26 considered “new” when it’s been out for months?
Re: PSA: Braid: Anniversary Edition - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Has Finally Arrived On Western eShops
@AgentGuapo From what I’ve been learing he’s not a communist or socialist and the hive mentality doesn’t like that.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 Update Now Available, Adds Switch 2 Support
@Deltarogue 😄 Identical situation. We must have bought it in the same deal. Mine is still sealed.
Re: Starship Troopers: Ultimate Bug War! Brings A "New Retro FPS" Experience To Switch 2 This March
This looks terrible. I’m not a frame rate nerd, but what is it here? 10, 15 FPS?
Sony, just give us Hell Divers II.
Re: Review: Indika (Switch) - A Port That Makes You Lose Faith In An Indie Gem
@storyofalex That’s what I did. Although I have such a backlog that if there are any other bugs they’ll be fixed by the time I get to it. 😄
Re: Surprise! Braid: Anniversary Edition Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Just Dropped
@MattmanForever ah, so he was shilling for those experimental jabs and breathing in your own spittle over and over? Yuck.🤮
Re: TIME Magazine Reveals Special Edition Pokémon 30th Anniversary Covers
@AussieMcBucket That one over there, next to those two.
Re: Review: Indika (Switch) - A Port That Makes You Lose Faith In An Indie Gem
@storyofalex I had this on my list but waited because of the issues. It’s also now on sale until the first of March. Have you played the update?
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Virtual Boy - Nintendo Classics
@FishyS No pain, no gain. 😉
Re: Indiana Jones Cracks His Whip On Switch 2 On 12th May 2026
@Fishmasterflex96 Correct, I was responding to your, “they could make playable games on disc if they wanted to.”
We might be saying the same thing. They could fit the entire game on a disc if they wanted to, but you would still have to install it on to your SSD. They chose not to do that at all for X-Box and only partially for PS5.
Re: Indiana Jones Cracks His Whip On Switch 2 On 12th May 2026
@Fishmasterflex96 The transfer speed of a S2 cartridge is roughly 4x (400MB/s) faster than the optical drives of the PS5 and X-Box whatever. Even if that were fast enough, toss in seek times, and it wouldn’t be playable from a disc. Now selling it on a disc and making it download to your SSD is another topic.
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
@jsty3105 😂 I had to look up “Loaded.” I obviously missed the news CDKeys is no more.
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
Confirmation from Bethesda.
https://x.com/bethesda/status/2019446765750022245?s=61&t=N1R5yjgnbMjsw4jsWg3Rsw
Re: Indiana Jones Cracks His Whip On Switch 2 On 12th May 2026
@antlion The scenery looks great, and the music and sound appear to be awesome, but from everything I’ve seen the animation looks like it came from late PS3/early PS4 days.
Re: Indiana Jones Cracks His Whip On Switch 2 On 12th May 2026
Are we getting a true physical release or just a crappy key card?
Re: Reminder: Today's Your Last Day To Buy Switch Game Vouchers
I’ve just been buying store cards at Sam’s, Costco, etc. when they have decent discounts. Not necessarily huge savings, but rarely is on Nintendo stuff.
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
@Strawblaze If I had to guess, I’d say somewhere around 50% after you figure in all the engineering time required to get the games running, the hardware design, and making it all work together.
Not saying this is you, but most people don’t realize the amount of R&D that goes in to something like this. Especially for what is basically a limited run for nostalgia nuts like myself. Don’t forget to include packaging, advertising, and freight, both from the factory to the warehouse, and from the warehouse to your door. Material costs are low, engineering costs are high.
A lot goes in to “a simple piece of plastic.”
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
@Dimjimmer My guess, this is probably work reserved for in-terms and/or junior developers. Once they prove themselves here they move them on to bigger and better projects. Until someone new comes along this work just sits there.
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
@Strawblaze it does seem crazy at first, but not when scale of manufacturing and purchase of additional content are added to the equation.
To simplify things, Nintendo is going to sell a lot of these, but probably not in the same numbers as the Meta headset. Also, Meta headsets are sold at a loss (or low profit margin if any profit at all) in the plan that owners need to purchase games for it to function. In addition they get to collection more information on you and turn around and sell that to advertisers.
As we all know Nintendo will not sell anything at a loss. There are no additional purchases to cover for a loss/low profit margin. So they need to make a profit up front on each unit sold.
Re: Ball X Pit's First Free Content Update Bounces Onto Switch Next Week
FYI, it’s available now.
https://x.com/ballxpit/status/2015832864084934817?s=61&t=N1R5yjgnbMjsw4jsWg3Rsw
Re: Feature: "Demoralisation Is A Strong Word, But It Accurately Describes The Situation" - Why Do So Many Games Get Delayed?
It’s a mess out there. Thank you accountants, business managers, and often hiring the lowest common denominator staff to work on these projects.
Re: Ubisoft Layoffs At Two Swedish Studios Expected To Impact 55 Jobs
@Dr_Awkward who said anything about the sex of the character? Save the make believe battles for the games. This game failed for the same reasons Disney Star Wars has failed. Characters no one cares about, and poor quality control.
Anything else exists purely in your head.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade On Switch 2
So help me out here. You have VII Remastered, which was just released with VIII in a dual cart in December. How does this differ?
Re: Ubisoft Layoffs At Two Swedish Studios Expected To Impact 55 Jobs
@Dr_Awkward Screeching? That’s what you want to go with? People said their piece about them. And the people weren’t wrong. The QC on SW was a complete joke. And let’s be honest , if you’re going to have a Han Solo game, put Han in it.
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
@Twilite9 Pro tip, when you don’t properly cite your sources you lose your credibility.
Re: Ubisoft Layoffs At Two Swedish Studios Expected To Impact 55 Jobs
@Pillowpants I wouldn’t say corporate greed, it’s more like corporate decisions. Give the people what they’re not asking for, and do it as lazily as possible. I wouldn’t call that greed. I think corporate arrogance is more fitting.
Re: Censored Dispatch Artwork Spotted On Nintendo's Digital Storefront
@Phelaidar I want to go to that grocery store! Where is it?
Re: Censored Dispatch Artwork Spotted On Nintendo's Digital Storefront
@Yoshi3 Nah, we like both. Fortunately for us we get to have them both, just sometimes with a little more covering them up than normal. 👍🏼
Re: Splatoon 3's Annual In-Game Event Frosty Fest Returns Early Next Year
@TheRazor Oh man, I'm sorry I thought you were joking around. I hope that you are. Need a buddy to talk to?
Re: Splatoon 3's Annual In-Game Event Frosty Fest Returns Early Next Year
@Zeebor15 Sounds like a good time down there in Marlboro country.
Re: Best Switch 2 Ports - The Most Impressive Third-Party Games On Nintendo Switch 2
Surprised, no honorable mention for Hitman: World of Assassination?
Re: Metroid Prime 4's Official Rating Summary Spotted On ESRB Website
Generally speaking I’m fine with Nintendo charging for updates when there’s work to be done. That said, charging for the upgrade when the games were developed side by side, and you know there’s going to be a ton of Switch2’s underneath the Christmas tree, just feels wrong.
Re: UK Charts: EA Sports FC 26 Kicks Pokémon Legends Z-A Into Second Place
Don’t know what I’m more surprised at. Nintendo Switch Sports Made the list, or that it moved up a spot.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Increases Switch 2 Production To 25 Million Units For Year 1
@electrolite77
You think the number is that high? I think most of the gaming world will continue on not realizing they’re supposed to be outraged by that. 😉
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Increases Switch 2 Production To 25 Million Units For Year 1
@gcunit
Special edition, next fall.
Hardware update, 2-3 years? Maybe longer if it continues to sell as well as it does.
Re: Nintendo Of America President Doug Bowser Announces Retirement
@foursider Nintendo needs better leaders. What’s between their legs doesn’t make a difference.
Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Reminds Me Of Gears 5, And It's Making Me Nervous
@Jimmy_G_Buckets Agreed. Why would she need a bike when she has a ship?
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Finally Gets A Release Date, Open World Confirmed
@montrayjak 😂 Mine was in there for years. I think they finally canceled it a year ago.
Re: Review: 8BitDo Pro 3 Bluetooth Controller - TMR Sticks And Hall Effect Triggers Elevate This Switch 2-Compatible Pad
For that kind of money just get the official Pro 2 controller and be able to wake the consol, NFC, and a headphone jack. (Don’t know if you can replace the battery in it.)
Re: Splatoon 3 Version 10.1.0 Announced For Switch And Switch 2, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Ellie-Moo I literally am in the process of doing what you’re thinking. I am getting my butt handed to me in Battles. Despite being top 2-3 in my group, I’ve only won one game. I hope this patch helps. Still fun though.