@impurekind , "the relatively high price of the system", When adjusted for inflation the original NES with ROB in 1985 would today cost $330. Its not a scientific survey, but everybody I've spoken to (not N fanboys, just parents around the soccer field etc) have all commented how $300 is a deal for a portable console. Please explain your perception of "high price".
@PlywoodStick "More like a $200 difference [for Tegra X2 over X1]", Perhaps, but I'm skeptical of that number. I'm suggesting that given leveraged purchasing (at least 30 million units), they could have gotten us the X2 if they raised the retail price by ~$20 and forget about trying to make a profit, just break even. Tesla cars aren't selling 30+ million units — I'm just supposing that they could have made it happen, and the system would be better for it.
@StuTwo , right but he's terrible at anticipating. See my comment above (#35). Pachter is a joke and everyone except the media knows it. He reports the obvious ("Oh look, Zelda is popular") while trying to appear prescient.
I have 18 years in hedge fund research and market analytics and Pachter is a joke. Media likes him, but his research isn't very good. This is the guy who recommended selling Netflix stock and buying Blockbuster stock — that's how bad his judgement is. He's basically a media personality at this point. A lot like how Bill Nye isn't really a scientist, he's basically a clown, but the media likes to use him as a prop.
Wrong. All things being equal a more powerful system is always better. If Nintendo were to come out with a bleeding-edge console that surpassed PS or XB while having all the N titles... OF COURSE that would be a good thing. Gimmicks can sometimes matter, and obviously content matters, but to disregard pure processing and graphics ability is naive.
What thomas said is correct. I was just thinking last week about buying some Nintendo stock in anticipation of NX and Nintendo's great reversal. Now I'm back to thinking they are a bunch of **** ups who can't figure out what they are doing. Its like watching Blockbuster video slowly die because they haven't figured out what people want.
I hope the gender options rumor isn't true. SJW morons are being granted WAY too much influence and should just go away because its dumb. I would have no problem if they made a Zelda game with a playable Zelda character as the protagonist, but don't change Link who has always been male. Are they going to change Mario and Luigi to trans characters next? STAHP!
Right, so a new console needs great games at/near release. Duh. We are still waiting for a new original Zelda for the U, and it looks as though it will be a simultaneous release with the NX (meaning that the U never gets an original Zelda). Splatoon is a great game and really shows off the gamepad's usefulness, but its 3 years late to the party. And stop nagging about 3rd party being necessary — if the console is a success then 3P will come.
I believe that they are working hard, and I'm sure it will be as good as they can make it. BUT... my criticism is that they didn't start this process 2 years before the U was released. No hate for the Zelda team now, its bad management planning back then. SS was 4 years ago.
Make a complete Home Entertainment System for once. Fully functional and robust DVR (can be an add-on), comprehensive streaming media support (like Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV, etc with ALL the major media channels), make it a snap to dev for (you can put up a Roku channel in a few minutes, for example), if they have another Gamepad (can be an add-on) make it function as a remote and TV guide for all your media, Bluray player (just pay Sony for the usage rights), and for goodness sake give it CPU POWER because even if Nintendo doesn't think they need it the media and consumers don't know that and they publicize raw numbers. Esp if its a modular system N can promote the tricked out version as "most powerful" while the basic module is affordable.
3rd P Devs "moved on" because there was nothing there for them on the U — impossible to dev for, and no audience. Give them something to dev on and they'll come back. Anybody who says otherwise is unfamiliar with the business. If Nintendo's next console is under-powered, they will have officially and totally lost the console wars for good. They will be Sega. ... I've said for years, make a modular console with upgradable parts. Add memory, add CPU, etc.
Its 3 years late as it is. This should have been made for release with the U in 2012. The U would have been a smash hit if it had. Instead of making that horrible Skyward Sword, they should have been working on the next-gen Zelda at that time. Its just sad to see such poor planning by management. I don't begrudge Aonuma making this game as great as it can be, its just a reflection of bad planning. These "discoveries" of how to make the game cool should have been made in 2011.
I'm an "old timer", got NES with R.O.B. in 1985 when first released. Played this game a million times. Had Nintendo Power for years, as did all my friends at school. I have NEVER heard of this (and I remain extremely skeptical until I try it on an original NES).
You guys still trying to convince yourselves that the U is as capable as the other "next-gens" or "new-gens" or whatever you want to call them? Face it: Nintendo done f****d up.
"It is little more than Omega Force's brand of one-man-army combat with Link and his friends dropped in the middle." But everybody already knew this from the start.
Meh. Time for a real upgrade. Most cell phones have better screens and more processing power than this handheld. When will it integrate with the U as a second controller or something?
"If you're arguing the Wii U has the raw graphical processing power to rub shoulders with PS4 and Xbox One, then you're factually off the mark." 9/10 readers of NintendoLife just got their panties in a wad.
@midnafanboy, Friendo, Its not that I want a new console per-se, its that the market and developers do. The PS4 sold more in one month than the U has in 2 years. If you want consumers to buy your console then you need games... and if you want 3rdP devs to make games then you need them to be excited about deving on your console, and clearly 3rdPs don't care about the U. This should be obvious to everybody but the fanboy drones. Is this situation supposed to improve as the U ages? The U was 2 years too late to market; should have replaced the Wii sooner. At this point its too far behind. Cut the loss and start over: new console by Christmas 2015. And don't call it a variation of the Wii. Disagree? Fine with me. P.S. I'm no hater: I've been a Nintendo fan since before most on here were born. I want to see a N revival.
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Re: Elden: Path Of The Forgotten Brings Top-Down Horror To Switch This Year
I'm guessing 98% of NintendoLife readers are too young to remember original Kings Quest (Sierra On-Line). This was how we played video games in 1985.
Re: And Just Like That, Customer Reviews On The Nintendo Site Are No More
Bad Ninty. More speech liberty is always better than less.
Re: The Dream Of Crowdfunded Switch Dock SFANS Has Turned Into A Nightmare
haha... fools.
Re: Super Nintendo World at Universal Orlando Will Reportedly Be Bigger Than Expected
If there isn't a big Zelda feature then its dumb and why bother.
Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown Suggests Production Cost Is Around $260 Per Unit
@NEStalgia , interesting, presumably your claims are correct that would make sense.
Re: Guide: How To Catch The Best Mount In Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
Doesn't seem worth it when you have Ganon's horse, Epona, and the Royal Stallion.
Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown Suggests Production Cost Is Around $260 Per Unit
@impurekind , "the relatively high price of the system",
When adjusted for inflation the original NES with ROB in 1985 would today cost $330.
Its not a scientific survey, but everybody I've spoken to (not N fanboys, just parents around the soccer field etc) have all commented how $300 is a deal for a portable console.
Please explain your perception of "high price".
Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown Suggests Production Cost Is Around $260 Per Unit
@PlywoodStick "More like a $200 difference [for Tegra X2 over X1]",
Perhaps, but I'm skeptical of that number. I'm suggesting that given leveraged purchasing (at least 30 million units), they could have gotten us the X2 if they raised the retail price by ~$20 and forget about trying to make a profit, just break even. Tesla cars aren't selling 30+ million units — I'm just supposing that they could have made it happen, and the system would be better for it.
Re: SwitchCharge Is A Case Which Gives Your Nintendo Switch 12 Hours Of Stamina
1. Would it void warranty? Additional heat and all that.
2. Probably not worth the $130 price tag.
Re: Nintendo Switch Teardown Suggests Production Cost Is Around $260 Per Unit
Okay fine, but they still should have used the X2 instead of the X1. Consumers would have paid the extra $20 and the system would be better.
Re: Guide: How to Farm Dragon Parts in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
I don't like any guide that turns playing a Zelda game into farming.
Re: Nintendo's Harshest Critic Thinks Switch Will Outsell Microsoft's Scorpio
@StuTwo , right but he's terrible at anticipating. See my comment above (#35). Pachter is a joke and everyone except the media knows it. He reports the obvious ("Oh look, Zelda is popular") while trying to appear prescient.
Re: Nintendo's Harshest Critic Thinks Switch Will Outsell Microsoft's Scorpio
I have 18 years in hedge fund research and market analytics and Pachter is a joke. Media likes him, but his research isn't very good. This is the guy who recommended selling Netflix stock and buying Blockbuster stock — that's how bad his judgement is. He's basically a media personality at this point. A lot like how Bill Nye isn't really a scientist, he's basically a clown, but the media likes to use him as a prop.
Re: PETA Calls Out Nintendo Over Inaccurate Portrayal Of Milking In 1-2-Switch
How about stfu PETA.
Re: Feature: Thirty Years Ago, Little Mac Became a Champion in Punch-Out!!
Bring the orig MT version to Switch VC (whenever it is avail). MT needs the money and will gladly make a deal.
Re: Nintendo Says There is No Design Issue Causing Left Joy-Con Connection Drops
I ordered a Switch yesterday through Gamestop, should arrive later in the week. I'd like to know if this one is from a batch that has been remediated.
Re: Weirdness: Bizarre Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Glitch Lets Link Walk Underwater
I had similar but was underground. Talus struck me into the rock below and I couldn't do anything but turn in circles. Glitch exists.
Re: Feature: What Happens When you Play Breath of the Wild as a Multiplayer Game?
"She and I", not "her and I" (paragraph 6). Grammar is hard.
Re: Official Nintendo Switch Technical Specifications Have Been Shared
So is there no cell data option for remote play?
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is A 13.4GB Download On Nintendo Switch
I want to be able to download it for the U, and move it over to Switch when I get around to buying one. Doubt that would happen though.
Re: Nintendo Apparently Told Square "Never Come Back" After Losing Final Fantasy VII To Sony
I could try to care but that would be too much work. Nope, don't care.
Re: Soapbox: The Nintendo Switch's Final Specs Don't Matter
Wrong. All things being equal a more powerful system is always better. If Nintendo were to come out with a bleeding-edge console that surpassed PS or XB while having all the N titles... OF COURSE that would be a good thing. Gimmicks can sometimes matter, and obviously content matters, but to disregard pure processing and graphics ability is naive.
Re: Former Sony Boss Jack Tretton Lavishes Praise On Nintendo And The Wii
Do you guys even have an editor? Proof read? Even MsWord could find these errors if you asked it to. Jees.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Shakes Up E3 With No NX and a Focus on Legend of Zelda
What thomas said is correct. I was just thinking last week about buying some Nintendo stock in anticipation of NX and Nintendo's great reversal. Now I'm back to thinking they are a bunch of **** ups who can't figure out what they are doing. Its like watching Blockbuster video slowly die because they haven't figured out what people want.
Re: Rumour: More Claims Made For New Legend of Zelda on Wii U and NX, Gender Choice For Playable Character
I hope the gender options rumor isn't true. SJW morons are being granted WAY too much influence and should just go away because its dumb. I would have no problem if they made a Zelda game with a playable Zelda character as the protagonist, but don't change Link who has always been male. Are they going to change Mario and Luigi to trans characters next? STAHP!
Re: Here's A 3D Classics Version Of Zelda You Can Play In Your Web Browser
NICE! But I want to download it for when N makes them take it down. Can we can such a version?
Re: Fans Should Expect "Something New" With Zelda Wii U, Says Eiji Aonuma
So much tease! More than my gif even. But honestly its just about 3 years late.
Re: Talking Point: Learning Lessons From the Past Can Define Nintendo's NX Launch
Right, so a new console needs great games at/near release. Duh. We are still waiting for a new original Zelda for the U, and it looks as though it will be a simultaneous release with the NX (meaning that the U never gets an original Zelda). Splatoon is a great game and really shows off the gamepad's usefulness, but its 3 years late to the party. And stop nagging about 3rd party being necessary — if the console is a success then 3P will come.
Re: Video: Check Out a Graphical Comparison for The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
@Baker1000 False. All Zelda's should be given face lifts before Mario's.
Re: Video: Check Out a Graphical Comparison for The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
Proof that the U is underpowered. It's better, but not by much. Great game though. The best Zelda to-date.
Re: Zelda Fans Vent Anger At Nintendo of America Over Doge Memes In Tri Force Heroes
I have no idea why this is even a problem.
Re: Aonuma Talks the Legend of Zelda's 30th Anniversary, Working as Fast as Possible on Zelda U
I believe that they are working hard, and I'm sure it will be as good as they can make it. BUT... my criticism is that they didn't start this process 2 years before the U was released. No hate for the Zelda team now, its bad management planning back then. SS was 4 years ago.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
The U just wasn't capable enough to compete. Nintendo needs to give us a powerful system finally, for the first time in 20 years. Sheesh.
Re: Talking Point: Raw Power Isn't Vital to Nintendo's NX, But It Does Matter
Make a complete Home Entertainment System for once. Fully functional and robust DVR (can be an add-on), comprehensive streaming media support (like Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV, etc with ALL the major media channels), make it a snap to dev for (you can put up a Roku channel in a few minutes, for example), if they have another Gamepad (can be an add-on) make it function as a remote and TV guide for all your media, Bluray player (just pay Sony for the usage rights), and for goodness sake give it CPU POWER because even if Nintendo doesn't think they need it the media and consumers don't know that and they publicize raw numbers. Esp if its a modular system N can promote the tricked out version as "most powerful" while the basic module is affordable.
Re: Talking Point: Raw Power Isn't Vital to Nintendo's NX, But It Does Matter
3rd P Devs "moved on" because there was nothing there for them on the U — impossible to dev for, and no audience. Give them something to dev on and they'll come back. Anybody who says otherwise is unfamiliar with the business. If Nintendo's next console is under-powered, they will have officially and totally lost the console wars for good. They will be Sega. ... I've said for years, make a modular console with upgradable parts. Add memory, add CPU, etc.
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U May Benefit From a Delay, But It Leaves a Blockbuster-Sized Gap
Its 3 years late as it is. This should have been made for release with the U in 2012. The U would have been a smash hit if it had. Instead of making that horrible Skyward Sword, they should have been working on the next-gen Zelda at that time. Its just sad to see such poor planning by management. I don't begrudge Aonuma making this game as great as it can be, its just a reflection of bad planning. These "discoveries" of how to make the game cool should have been made in 2011.
Re: Weirdness: Hands Up If You Knew About the Super-Easy Button Combination to Resume Progress in Super Mario Bros.
I'm an "old timer", got NES with R.O.B. in 1985 when first released. Played this game a million times. Had Nintendo Power for years, as did all my friends at school. I have NEVER heard of this (and I remain extremely skeptical until I try it on an original NES).
Re: Video: Here Are Some Fun Facts About The Mighty GameCube
Too bad they stopped trying to set new graphical standards.
Re: We'd Be Cheating Fans By Bringing Assassin's Creed Unity To Wii U, Says Ubisoft
You guys still trying to convince yourselves that the U is as capable as the other "next-gens" or "new-gens" or whatever you want to call them? Face it: Nintendo done f****d up.
Re: Video: Episode One Of Zeldamotion's Link To The Past Animated Series Makes Its Debut
Weak sauce.
Re: Review: Hyrule Warriors (Wii U)
"It is little more than Omega Force's brand of one-man-army combat with Link and his friends dropped in the middle."
But everybody already knew this from the start.
Re: Weirdness: Here's What DuckTales Would Look Like With Real Ducks
One of the best cartoons ever, and this was a decent rendition.
Re: North America is Getting the Limited Edition of Hyrule Warriors
Don't care about a scarf whatsoever.
Re: NES-Themed Nintendo 3DS XL On The Way as GameStop Exclusive
NES is a bit interesting, but overall.... meh. I'll wait for the new one.
And why isn't the new one avail this Christmas in the US?
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Models Announced
Meh. Time for a real upgrade. Most cell phones have better screens and more processing power than this handheld. When will it integrate with the U as a second controller or something?
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U May be Best as One of Two Consoles, Just Like Wii
"If you're arguing the Wii U has the raw graphical processing power to rub shoulders with PS4 and Xbox One, then you're factually off the mark." 9/10 readers of NintendoLife just got their panties in a wad.
Re: GameStop President Says "Don't Bet Against Nintendo"
Is this an add-on to the Wii?
Re: Ubisoft Clarifies Reasoning For The Crew Skipping Wii U
@midnafanboy, Friendo, Its not that I want a new console per-se, its that the market and developers do. The PS4 sold more in one month than the U has in 2 years. If you want consumers to buy your console then you need games... and if you want 3rdP devs to make games then you need them to be excited about deving on your console, and clearly 3rdPs don't care about the U. This should be obvious to everybody but the fanboy drones. Is this situation supposed to improve as the U ages? The U was 2 years too late to market; should have replaced the Wii sooner. At this point its too far behind. Cut the loss and start over: new console by Christmas 2015. And don't call it a variation of the Wii. Disagree? Fine with me. P.S. I'm no hater: I've been a Nintendo fan since before most on here were born. I want to see a N revival.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto States There Are "A Few" Zelda Titles In Development, Aiming To Evolve The Series
@DilMan33 Hero Mode starts after you beat it. And I find the Hero Mode to be quite difficult in this game.
Re: Ubisoft Clarifies Reasoning For The Crew Skipping Wii U
Tell me again how the WiiU is "just as capable as the next gens" bla bla bla...
Time for a new console Nintendo, srsly.