Can't quite believe that people are whining about WW being updated/polished for HD on the U. N should do the same for OoT, TP, and SS... on the U. Its bloody easy for them to do, and N will just print money.
@krunchykhaos, Hey bro, you know that I'm just ribbin' ya... right? Its all in good fun. Maybe you can't read sarcasm well. BTW, I fact checked my earlier statement and it was indeed true. WW is better than SS. Its been scientifically proven.
@skjia, While the entire Zelda line are chock full of excellent games, TP might be my favorite... but so hard to pick just one fave.
I can't separate a game as it stands today from the whole experience of the time in which it was released (played), and each major Zelda release (with the exception of SS, which was practically garbage) is always so good. Side-by-side today, the orig 8-bit LoZ isn't as good as TP, but in 1986 it was effing amazing, and so it goes with each generation... including WW (excluding SS).
And krunchy, its all good clean fun. Don't be mad.
@krunchykhaos And I'm quite sure that you couldn't be more wrong. And since I've been playing Zelda since 1986 (NES) and ever iteration since, and all my friends who I've grown up with still play and love Zelda all agree with me... I'd say your "surveyed numbers" are flawed. SS is garbage; WW is a gem. Obviously we're all entitled to our subjective opinions, but anybody who disagrees with my opinion is wrong.
@Moviefan2k4 , yeah I knew what you meant. I was agreeing... then I was commenting that there's no good reason that N couldn't re-render those Wii Zelda's in HD with no other changes. It would literally take one programmer about a week to re-render those for U, and they could just print money. Just saying.
When Sony closes their console dept due to heavy losses, and nobody wants to buy the XboxZero... then EA will come crawling back to Nintendo. EA hasn't made a game that I cared about in at least 10 years anyways, and they are suffering financially, so whatev.
It would be a cinch for them to re-render Twilight and/or Skyward in HD. Don't have to change anything about the game or controls, just re-render it for the U. They'll sell a ton with nearly zero development cost. I cannot imagine nor explain why this isn't happening right now.
I've got the Energizer recharging Wiimote batteries and charging dock already, but I really want an upgraded Gamepad battery with better/longer life. Please someone bring that to market.
@theblackdragon <-- She's right, by my way of thinking. I buy a book, I own the book, and the right to lend it to my sibling without paying a fee to the author or publisher. I don't own the copyright, so I cannot photocopy and distribute. But the book IS MINE. Game discs/cartridges should be treated the same.
1. I hope the U kills it and their rivals fail.
2. I also hope Nintendo offers an upgraded CPU for the U... U2, U squared, whatever. GPU seems fine, but CPU should handle more flop/s.
I've wondered for years now why the CPU in these consoles isn't upgradable as a removable slotted cartridge device. Remove two screws, pull the stock proc, plug in a faster one. (Proc could easily be encased in a plastic housing to be "idiot" proof.) Game makers could account for this: "Supports Wii U with the Wildcat processor upgrade" or something. Could easily be done.
Translation: people who live in a rural setting cannot use the new Xbox. Believe it or not, many homes don't have internet; most rural areas only have dial up options. And the issues with used games could also be a major fail. As of now this new Xbox looks like a total flop.
@CaPPa , I'm gullible? I'm only citing what reverse engineering specialists have concluded: "We've seen substantial performance dips on CPU-specific tasks." ... "We can now, categorically, finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U." ... https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/02/gpu_images_reveal_wii_u_graphical_power The fact is that the U's CPU is weak for a new console in 2013. If they had released the U four years ago like they should have, then it'd would have been sweet, but they're way late to the HD gaming party. If it can't even run Frostbite now with the U being brand new, why would you think it will hang in there for the next several years of new gaming? I don't see the big deal with giving the U a clockspeed upgrade. As for the suspected price of the upcoming Xbox & PS4... industry analysts say: "What we’ve been told by Microsoft and Sony call for the next-generation systems to have a lower opening price point than they did last cycle." ... http://www.pcworld.com/article/2039700/gamestop-xbox-one-will-be-priced-less-than-the-xbox-360.html Again, before you call me names, perhaps inform yourself?
Why couldn't Nintendo just bring out "Wii U 2" with appropriate CPU enhancements? Acknowledge the weaknesses of the current U, make some upgrades/tweaks, and move on. It already can't hang with current Xbox, so give it a horsepower upgrade! (I know EA doesn't matter all that much, but I worry that the perception among studios will only get worse.)
" it delights in repeatedly tripping you up and seemingly mocking your ineptitude — yet you keep coming back for more. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the hallmark of a classic video game." Ain't that the TRUTH! Ahh.. the good ol' days. That's why I forced my children to start video gaming with only the classic NES and SNES games, vintage Sierra Online computer games, etc. Keep 'em sharp.
XboxOne: can't play old Xbox games, can't take game discs to a friend's house, can't use XboxOne unless connected to the internet (what about rural buyers?), must continue to pay MS a fee to connect to the internet which makes it a monthly user fee just to use the darn thing... unless I'm incorrect, or unless they change these features, I'd say this new Xbox is a total failure out the gate!
Agreed. IMO, Sony will fall away. Remember, Playstation only got life because Nintendo co-developed it then walked away at the last second. Nintendo GAVE Sony life in the console arena. Not to mention that Sony just isn't the electronics kingpin they once were, and the Japanese economy as a whole is suffering badly. Nintendo on the other hand has so much quality IP that it will propel them until their next innovation hits with the market, plus they are still strong in the portable market. Xbox doesn't even have to make money because MS will subsidize the system just to stay in that market. My $0.02.
@SpaceKappa X2 on the digital account for downloads. Isn't this "feature" considered standard in 2013 for all digital content? Heck, it was standard for eBooks like 6 years ago!
@dumedum You don't have young kids then, LOL. Sunday morning, parent turns on the Netflix show at 6am, goes back to bed, :20 min later the 3 year old kid is waking you up asking to start the next episode. Point is that ALL the other systems have had this feature for a year, except Nintendo. Nintendos are "family" console, right? Its not a big deal, its just one of the many straws on the camel's back.
Step 1. Release interesting (original?) games, or at least new titles for games we already like. Remember when Super Mario Bros and Legend of Zelda were fresh, new, original concepts and they blew up the NES? All they seem to do is reboot old titles anymore — is there no new creativity?
Step 2. Make the TVii work like they said it would, with every device, every service, seamlessly and easily. If I want to watch Game of Thrones (HBO Go) I still have to fire up that piece of crap Xbox360 system (worst console EVAR). Netflix post-play feature is still only on Xbox version.
Step 3. Cut the price.
You're welcome, Nintendo.
@WiiURockz , I assume its because there's a huge existing market of PS3 and 360 owners, but the U market is so tiny that its not economical to invest in a port to that platform. The original Wii outsold the Wii U in April.
Went into a Gamestop last week on a whim. No Wii U on display, the entire U selection of product was on a tiny rack the size of my kitchen stove, virtually no representation. If I had wanted to see what a Wii U looked like, there were none around to see.
So the game stores and 3rd party publishers are ignoring the U because its not selling, and the public has no interest (or awareness) due to no advertising and no product — downward spiral/vicious circle. Even Nintendo fans aren't buying it. Seems to me that Nintendo should be doing what they can control: releasing new exciting Nintendo titles ASAP. Get the ball rolling somehow. Old Capcom remakes and VC ports isn't going to do that IMO. What's the big Nintendo title coming out this Christmas... Zelda Windwaker remake?! A 10 year old game that didn't sell very hot the first time around...
I'm an extremely casual gamer btw.
EDIT: This article seems correct in my estimation: http://www.itechpost.com/articles/9423/20130518/nintendo-wii-u-next-dreamcast.htm
@Slapshot I totally agree with that analysis. Which is why they should be pulling out all stops to get NEW U content ready for this Christmas. Ducktales and Zelda remakes are nice, but not going to light the market on fire. Frankly this sort of planning should have been happening 2 years ago. This "crisis" with the U was entirely avoidable had they planned for new original exciting titles. Zelda U is scheduled no sooner than Christmas 2014?!
EA hasn't been relevant in years. P.S. The Xbox 360 is a horrendously bad console, in terms of design, interface, performance, and that stupid $10/mo fee just to connect online.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel against the likes of Google, Apple, Samsung, etc. It seems like a train wreck waiting to happen. See Blackberry and Palm for example. Remember Nokia's NGage? Make more Zelda games, and less trying to reinvent the wheel.
One of the weakest Zelda offerings ever. Too linear, gimmicky, child-like, just "meh". A 6/10 if I'm being kind. (It was also about 4 years late coming to market.)
I made the same point in the earlier thread this morning. He's right. Nintendo has the right to do it, but they would be better served to leave it alone.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Launches This November In North America
I'll buy it on day 1.
Re: First Impressions: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
Can't quite believe that people are whining about WW being updated/polished for HD on the U. N should do the same for OoT, TP, and SS... on the U. Its bloody easy for them to do, and N will just print money.
Re: Miyamoto: Zelda Wii U Was Considered For Display At This Year's E3
@krunchykhaos, Hey bro, you know that I'm just ribbin' ya... right? Its all in good fun. Maybe you can't read sarcasm well. BTW, I fact checked my earlier statement and it was indeed true. WW is better than SS. Its been scientifically proven.
@skjia, While the entire Zelda line are chock full of excellent games, TP might be my favorite... but so hard to pick just one fave.
I can't separate a game as it stands today from the whole experience of the time in which it was released (played), and each major Zelda release (with the exception of SS, which was practically garbage) is always so good. Side-by-side today, the orig 8-bit LoZ isn't as good as TP, but in 1986 it was effing amazing, and so it goes with each generation... including WW (excluding SS).
And krunchy, its all good clean fun. Don't be mad.
Re: Miyamoto: Zelda Wii U Was Considered For Display At This Year's E3
@krunchykhaos And I'm quite sure that you couldn't be more wrong. And since I've been playing Zelda since 1986 (NES) and ever iteration since, and all my friends who I've grown up with still play and love Zelda all agree with me... I'd say your "surveyed numbers" are flawed. SS is garbage; WW is a gem. Obviously we're all entitled to our subjective opinions, but anybody who disagrees with my opinion is wrong.
Re: Miyamoto: Zelda Wii U Was Considered For Display At This Year's E3
Hope its better than Skyward Sword, which was easily the worst Zelda title yet.
Re: Link to the Past Sequel Officially Named The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
The gameplay looks excellent.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD Sails Onto Wii U in October
Great game. Nintendo needs to do this HD re-render treatment to Twilight and Skyward as well.
@WaveBoy , anybody who publicly states that WW was boring is either a troll or is mentally handicapped.
Re: FIFA 14 Is Coming To Nintendo Consoles After All - Except The Wii U
How silly. I assume their Sega Genesis version is in the works too?
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda: Remakes of the Past
@Moviefan2k4 , yeah I knew what you meant. I was agreeing... then I was commenting that there's no good reason that N couldn't re-render those Wii Zelda's in HD with no other changes. It would literally take one programmer about a week to re-render those for U, and they could just print money. Just saying.
Re: EA Has No Publicly Announced Wii U Games Planned For Fall
When Sony closes their console dept due to heavy losses, and nobody wants to buy the XboxZero... then EA will come crawling back to Nintendo. EA hasn't made a game that I cared about in at least 10 years anyways, and they are suffering financially, so whatev.
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda: Remakes of the Past
@Moviefan2k4 , what he said.
It would be a cinch for them to re-render Twilight and/or Skyward in HD. Don't have to change anything about the game or controls, just re-render it for the U. They'll sell a ton with nearly zero development cost. I cannot imagine nor explain why this isn't happening right now.
Re: Video: This Zelda Stop Motion Animation is Crazy, and Awesome
Nice. ... I hope the next Zelda U raises the bar on awesome epicness. Its time for next level Link baddonkeyness.
Re: Diablo III May Not Be A Sony Exclusive After All
If it were on Wii U I'd buy D3, but its not worth it to me to buy for Xbox and drag that POS console out of the closet. I hate using the Xbox.
Re: Interview: Renegade Kid Praises Wii U as a "Gaming Console Through and Through"
Just offer fun (original) games and the market will find you. NES didn't rule the world because of ROB or slick marketing. Make games, baby, games.
Re: Weirdness: Someone Is Planning On Digging Up Atari's Buried E.T. Cartridges
@KnightRider666 okay... lol, I stand corrected. <-- We found the guy that cares! (i'm just ribbin' ya brah)
Re: Weirdness: Someone Is Planning On Digging Up Atari's Buried E.T. Cartridges
Waste of time and money. Nobody cares, not then, not now.
Re: GungHo's CEO Wants To Surpass Nintendo's Sales By His Retirement
Whatev... Puzzle & Dragons is stupid.
Re: Warren Spector: Underestimate Nintendo "At Your Peril"
I hope that MS and Sony underestimate Nintendo. Please be my guest.
Re: Poll: Wii U Hardware Revisions and Accessories, There's No Escape
1. Faster CPU.
2. Upgraded gamepad battery.
In that order. Don't care one bit about colors or gimmicks.
Re: 32GB White Wii U, Rechargeable Wii Remote Battery And 2550mAh GamePad Battery Announced
I've got the Energizer recharging Wiimote batteries and charging dock already, but I really want an upgraded Gamepad battery with better/longer life. Please someone bring that to market.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U vs Xbox One - Online Requirements and On-Disc DRM
@theblackdragon <-- She's right, by my way of thinking. I buy a book, I own the book, and the right to lend it to my sibling without paying a fee to the author or publisher. I don't own the copyright, so I cannot photocopy and distribute. But the book IS MINE. Game discs/cartridges should be treated the same.
Re: Consumers Go Crazy For Wii U Following Xbox One Reveal
1. I hope the U kills it and their rivals fail.
2. I also hope Nintendo offers an upgraded CPU for the U... U2, U squared, whatever. GPU seems fine, but CPU should handle more flop/s.
I've wondered for years now why the CPU in these consoles isn't upgradable as a removable slotted cartridge device. Remove two screws, pull the stock proc, plug in a faster one. (Proc could easily be encased in a plastic housing to be "idiot" proof.) Game makers could account for this: "Supports Wii U with the Wildcat processor upgrade" or something. Could easily be done.
Re: Nintendo Download: 30th May (Europe)
Anything new from Zelda and I'm first in line. I'm a total sucker for Zelda games, ever since 1986.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U vs Xbox One - Online Requirements and On-Disc DRM
Translation: people who live in a rural setting cannot use the new Xbox. Believe it or not, many homes don't have internet; most rural areas only have dial up options. And the issues with used games could also be a major fail. As of now this new Xbox looks like a total flop.
Re: Need For Speed Rivals Not Screeching Onto Wii U
@CaPPa , I'm gullible? I'm only citing what reverse engineering specialists have concluded: "We've seen substantial performance dips on CPU-specific tasks." ... "We can now, categorically, finally rule out any next-gen pretensions for the Wii U." ... https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/02/gpu_images_reveal_wii_u_graphical_power
The fact is that the U's CPU is weak for a new console in 2013. If they had released the U four years ago like they should have, then it'd would have been sweet, but they're way late to the HD gaming party. If it can't even run Frostbite now with the U being brand new, why would you think it will hang in there for the next several years of new gaming? I don't see the big deal with giving the U a clockspeed upgrade.
As for the suspected price of the upcoming Xbox & PS4... industry analysts say: "What we’ve been told by Microsoft and Sony call for the next-generation systems to have a lower opening price point than they did last cycle."
... http://www.pcworld.com/article/2039700/gamestop-xbox-one-will-be-priced-less-than-the-xbox-360.html
Again, before you call me names, perhaps inform yourself?
Re: Need For Speed Rivals Not Screeching Onto Wii U
Why couldn't Nintendo just bring out "Wii U 2" with appropriate CPU enhancements? Acknowledge the weaknesses of the current U, make some upgrades/tweaks, and move on. It already can't hang with current Xbox, so give it a horsepower upgrade! (I know EA doesn't matter all that much, but I worry that the perception among studios will only get worse.)
Re: Microsoft: If You're Backwards Compatible, You're Really Backwards
Mattrick should be fired for being an idiot. But... since I have no love for Xbox, please carry on being an idiot!
Re: Review: Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts (Wii U eShop / Super Nintendo)
" it delights in repeatedly tripping you up and seemingly mocking your ineptitude — yet you keep coming back for more. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the hallmark of a classic video game."
Ain't that the TRUTH! Ahh.. the good ol' days. That's why I forced my children to start video gaming with only the classic NES and SNES games, vintage Sierra Online computer games, etc. Keep 'em sharp.
Re: Rewind, EA Is In Fact Developing Games For The Wii U
More developers the better for the U, I suppose. Personally I couldn't care less if EA went straight to hell and we never heard from them again.
Re: Target Weighs In With Wii U Basic Model Price Cut
@Burning_Spear "Is Target going to make games too? Someone has to, because that is what the console needs."
LOL good call.
Re: Talking Point: The Wii U's Next-Gen Challenge Starts to Take Shape
XboxOne: can't play old Xbox games, can't take game discs to a friend's house, can't use XboxOne unless connected to the internet (what about rural buyers?), must continue to pay MS a fee to connect to the internet which makes it a monthly user fee just to use the darn thing... unless I'm incorrect, or unless they change these features, I'd say this new Xbox is a total failure out the gate!
Re: Poll: Do You Follow and Watch Rival Console Reveals?
Games that you've downloaded to Xbox360 won't transfer to new XboxOne. MS fails.
Re: Former Rockstar Producer Considers the Challenges Facing Home Consoles
Agreed. IMO, Sony will fall away. Remember, Playstation only got life because Nintendo co-developed it then walked away at the last second. Nintendo GAVE Sony life in the console arena. Not to mention that Sony just isn't the electronics kingpin they once were, and the Japanese economy as a whole is suffering badly. Nintendo on the other hand has so much quality IP that it will propel them until their next innovation hits with the market, plus they are still strong in the portable market. Xbox doesn't even have to make money because MS will subsidize the system just to stay in that market. My $0.02.
Re: New Wii U System Update Goes Live
@LzQuacker , LOL good point. But seeing as how NL published it, I was wondering if they came to agree that it was a BS story?
Re: New Wii U System Update Goes Live
What was the upshot from that recent rumor about doubling clock speed or whatever it was? Seemed implausible, but was that ever formally debunked?
Re: FIFA 14 is Skipping Wii U Because of "Disappointing" FIFA 13 Sales
I'm fairly sure that EA isn't "commercially viable". Who even plays video game soccer? Srsly...
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Should Step Up for the Wii U eShop
@SpaceKappa X2 on the digital account for downloads. Isn't this "feature" considered standard in 2013 for all digital content? Heck, it was standard for eBooks like 6 years ago!
Re: Rumour: Wii U Sold Less Than 40,000 Units In North America In April
@dumedum You don't have young kids then, LOL. Sunday morning, parent turns on the Netflix show at 6am, goes back to bed, :20 min later the 3 year old kid is waking you up asking to start the next episode. Point is that ALL the other systems have had this feature for a year, except Nintendo. Nintendos are "family" console, right? Its not a big deal, its just one of the many straws on the camel's back.
Re: Rumour: Wii U Sold Less Than 40,000 Units In North America In April
Step 1. Release interesting (original?) games, or at least new titles for games we already like. Remember when Super Mario Bros and Legend of Zelda were fresh, new, original concepts and they blew up the NES? All they seem to do is reboot old titles anymore — is there no new creativity?
Step 2. Make the TVii work like they said it would, with every device, every service, seamlessly and easily. If I want to watch Game of Thrones (HBO Go) I still have to fire up that piece of crap Xbox360 system (worst console EVAR). Netflix post-play feature is still only on Xbox version.
Step 3. Cut the price.
You're welcome, Nintendo.
Re: Rumour: Deadpool Could Be Heading To Wii U
@WiiURockz , I assume its because there's a huge existing market of PS3 and 360 owners, but the U market is so tiny that its not economical to invest in a port to that platform. The original Wii outsold the Wii U in April.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Mixed Week With Wii U Third-Party Support
Went into a Gamestop last week on a whim. No Wii U on display, the entire U selection of product was on a tiny rack the size of my kitchen stove, virtually no representation. If I had wanted to see what a Wii U looked like, there were none around to see.
So the game stores and 3rd party publishers are ignoring the U because its not selling, and the public has no interest (or awareness) due to no advertising and no product — downward spiral/vicious circle. Even Nintendo fans aren't buying it. Seems to me that Nintendo should be doing what they can control: releasing new exciting Nintendo titles ASAP. Get the ball rolling somehow. Old Capcom remakes and VC ports isn't going to do that IMO. What's the big Nintendo title coming out this Christmas... Zelda Windwaker remake?! A 10 year old game that didn't sell very hot the first time around...
I'm an extremely casual gamer btw.
EDIT: This article seems correct in my estimation: http://www.itechpost.com/articles/9423/20130518/nintendo-wii-u-next-dreamcast.htm
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Mixed Week With Wii U Third-Party Support
@Slapshot I totally agree with that analysis. Which is why they should be pulling out all stops to get NEW U content ready for this Christmas. Ducktales and Zelda remakes are nice, but not going to light the market on fire. Frankly this sort of planning should have been happening 2 years ago. This "crisis" with the U was entirely avoidable had they planned for new original exciting titles. Zelda U is scheduled no sooner than Christmas 2014?!
Re: Senior EA Employee Caught Out Criticising Wii U On Twitter
EA hasn't been relevant in years. P.S. The Xbox 360 is a horrendously bad console, in terms of design, interface, performance, and that stupid $10/mo fee just to connect online.
Re: Tech Site T3 Predicts What The Nintendo Smartphone Would Look Like
Don't try to reinvent the wheel against the likes of Google, Apple, Samsung, etc. It seems like a train wreck waiting to happen. See Blackberry and Palm for example. Remember Nokia's NGage? Make more Zelda games, and less trying to reinvent the wheel.
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Wii)
One of the weakest Zelda offerings ever. Too linear, gimmicky, child-like, just "meh". A 6/10 if I'm being kind. (It was also about 4 years late coming to market.)
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GCN)
Like most I was skeptical about the cell shading, but its absolutely excellent. A highly under-rated game, and one of my all time favorites. A 10/10.
Re: Capcom Open To More Retro Remakes, Reveals Fan Demand For Aliens vs. Predator
Gunsmoke was fun.
Re: Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara
I don't remember that game. Looks like Golden Axe, which I liked.
Re: Nintendo Claiming Ad Revenue On YouTube User-Generated Gameplay Videos
@AJTsuki
Respectfully... you're wrong. And this guy agrees with me:
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/05/thomas_was_alone_creator_responds_to_nintendo_claiming_lets_play_video_revenue#comment1644762
Re: Thomas Was Alone Creator Responds To Nintendo Claiming "Let's Play" Video Revenue
I made the same point in the earlier thread this morning. He's right. Nintendo has the right to do it, but they would be better served to leave it alone.