I don't see why Nintendo didn't just reach out to the guy who made this and publish the game. They'd have a brand new Metroid game to sell for the anniversary by doing little-to-no effort, fix ties with the Metroid fanbase, and ultimately just get good pr.
@Blues So...you went to an article from 8 months ago, talking about something that people have moved on from, probably forgotten about and most likely don't even care about anymore at this point, just to lecture on how I'm an overly sensitive child who can't grasp cultural differences? Because it sounds to me like you're the child here, not me. Because I'm not the type of person who does this type of ****. People have moved. I bet most people have completely forgotten about this. Let. It. GO.
Okay, so it seems like the reviews are a bit mixed with this one. Also, about the argument going on here: if you're excited about the game, good for you! I hope you enjoy it! You're allowed to like it! Just as much as other people are allowed to dislike it! I've already stated in a previous article all the reasons why I feel some of the disdain for this game is understandable, so I'm not gonna post it again.
Well...at least the Toads look different. So...there's that, I guess. I don't know. It'll probably be better than Sticker Star, but it's still just not what I'm looking for in Paper Mario (inb4 people start calling me "entitled", "whiny brat", "anti-change", etc).
@roy130390 Fair enough point. There are some people who take things too far (as I said in the beginning of my post). I was simply pointing out for some that there are actual reasons for Metroid fans to be upset.
Christ, this comment section...let me just say something as someone who has never really been that into Metroid before: I personally believe that Metroid fans have every right to be a bit pi$$ed off. Do some of them take it a bit too far? Of course! I'm honestly surprised someone thought the petition to get this game cancelled would work. However, think of it this way: imagine that there's this series you really enjoy. Now, the last game wasn't really that great, but hey! I'm sure they'll make the next one better! Then you end up waiting 5 years to get a new installment completely in the dark, with no news whatsoever. The 25th anniversary is completely ignored. And when Nintendo DOES make a new installment, it's not even a main-series entry; it's a spin-off that doesn't look a whole like the series you enjoy. I'm telling you right now, if there was an actual mainline Metroid game being released alongside FedForce, there wouldn't be half as much backlash. You know why people didn't go ape**** over Pinball or Hunters? Because Metroid hasn't been completely ignored for years at that point. It was actually getting games. What makes this worse is that Federation Force was in development since 2009, so it's looking like Nintendo didn't so much as even THINK about making a new mainline Metroid game in the past 6 years. That's pretty bad. And then you've got the fact that they completely ignored the series 30th anniversary, so it got ignored twice. They didn't announce some special game, they didn't do a sale on the eshop, they didn't so much as tweet about it. And then you've got them taking down the Metroid II Remake...on the same day as the anniversary. I know that Nintendo has every right to protect their ips, HOWEVER, the fact that they did jack-all for the anniversary, yet wasted no time in going after a passion project that someone worked on for roughly a decade simply out of love for the series is just asking for bad pr. It was basically creating some bad blood with a fanbase that they already have bad blood with because of their incompetence. Oh, and as for some of you people defending this game, if you're looking forward to it, that's fine...as long as you're being reasonable and allowing others to be the opposite. For those who aren't in that category (and this includes some of the defenders I've seen in this comment section), and are simply trying to shut down people who are dissapointed and calling the Metroid fanbase "ungrateful", I'm calling it right now: some of you aren't even going to buy this game. You're just defending it because you can't handle Nintendo receiving even the tiniest bit of criticism. Not only that, BUT, if this were a third-party game, some of you wouldn't be as forgiving. So, yeah. Those are just my two cents. Oh, and one more thing: for those who want people to shut up because "they should vote with their wallet", while that method is a good one, that doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to voice their criticisms. Otherwise, Nintendo could potentially get the wrong message and take the bad sales (lets be honest, this game is gonna bomb) as "we don't want Metroid anymore".
...Y'know what? I wish Nintendo would reveal the damn thing already. Not because I want to see what it is, no no no...it's because I just want these rumors to die already!
Okay. Just remember: no matter what happens, at least one of these two games will probably be good. Sonic Mania, while looking a bit more like a fangame, still is something that I'm going to be getting, and looks great. As for Sonic '17, hopefully it's good. We still haven't seen gameplay, so...who knows.
Well, hopefully it ends up there. I mean, it looks like the NX should be able to run it (assuming it's not potato-powered), and I'd assume that SEGA would be given a developer kit given that they seem to be very close with Nintendo nowadays, so I don't know. As for the game itself, I think it looks good. I mean, I'm gonna have to agree with @Seacliff here in that it basically looks like something that you could do with a fangame, but it at least looks like something you can do with a good fangame. It may not be as good as Generations, but it at least looks leagues better than Sonic's 15th anniversary "present".
@Project_Dolphin If we don't express our concerns, then how how are they supposed to know they goofed up? They're just gonna keep taking Paper Mario in this direction. And it IS Sticker Star 2.
@Project_Dolphin I'm not saying that they should cater to everyone's whim. What I'm saying is that MAYBE they should take feedback into account with some decisions. For example: when the majority of people say that they hated Sticker Star, DON'T MAKE STICKER STAR 2!
@Vee_Flames It has some different stages, but there is one issue: it's incredibly short. I managed to beat it in an hour. Still, I at least enjoyed myself, so...yeah.
@Project_Dolphin You do realize that Nintendo HAS listened to people in the past, right? I mean, they put Earthbound on the NA Eshop because of fan outcry. They put Bayonetta into Smash because of the Smash Ballot. Zelda's being open-world is basically a response to people complaining about the hand-holding in Skyward Sword. So they ARE capable of listening...occasionally. Even if they weren't, then that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to express my dissapointment. I am the paying customer, and if I'm not giving Nintendo my money, then they need to find out why. Also, what is there not understand about these complaints? They took Paper Mario and turned into something that it clearly isn't. Of course fans are going to upset.
@OorWullie Well, that's good to hear. However, I probably won't be picking up the Wii U version, since it turns out I got Transformed in the Sonic Bundle from a while back.
Eh...I already have everything there I'd be interested in. I mean, I don't All-Stars Racing, but I'm not so sure if I'd have fun just playing by myself, and I'm afraid that the online community might be dead, given that it's a racing game on Wii U that's not Mario Kart. Anyways, let's hope that game announcement is good!
@WiltonRoots Well I guess that explains it, somewhat. @Madder128 Thank you for understanding. I hope you enjoy it, but I'm not gonna waste my money on something I'll most likely hate.
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Re: 3DS Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 1st September
Oh my God, FINALLY! It has been 6 months since the last one, so it's about time!
@MasterGraveheart Please. Pretty please.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Reveals 'New Galaxy Style' New Nintendo 3DS XL, Out in North America This Week
...Why did this need it's own ad with Regge? I mean, what sets this specific model apart from the others?
Re: Feature: The Reasons for Renegade Kid's Closure and What's Next For Its Co-Founders
Shame they had to close down. Hopefully future ventures will go well for them.
Re: Feature: A Close Look at AM2R - The Metroid Game That Fans Deserve
I don't see why Nintendo didn't just reach out to the guy who made this and publish the game. They'd have a brand new Metroid game to sell for the anniversary by doing little-to-no effort, fix ties with the Metroid fanbase, and ultimately just get good pr.
Re: Mario Makes an Appearance in the Rio Olympics Closing Ceremony
Get ready for Mario & Sonic at the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games! Anyways, that was a nice video.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@Blues So...you went to an article from 8 months ago, talking about something that people have moved on from, probably forgotten about and most likely don't even care about anymore at this point, just to lecture on how I'm an overly sensitive child who can't grasp cultural differences? Because it sounds to me like you're the child here, not me. Because I'm not the type of person who does this type of ****. People have moved. I bet most people have completely forgotten about this. Let. It. GO.
Re: Bowser Rises Up The Ranks At Nintendo Of America
In other news, the amount of adds with Bowser in them is expected to increase, and the amount of adds with Mario in them is about to decrease.
Re: Celebrate The Release Of Federation Force By Dressing Your Miitomo Mii Up Metroid Style
Oh, yeah! This app is a thing. I forgot.
Re: Concept Art Surfaces from the Cancelled 'Epic Donald'
Would there be an Epic Goofy afterwards?
Re: Review: Metroid Prime: Federation Force (3DS)
Okay, so it seems like the reviews are a bit mixed with this one. Also, about the argument going on here: if you're excited about the game, good for you! I hope you enjoy it! You're allowed to like it! Just as much as other people are allowed to dislike it! I've already stated in a previous article all the reasons why I feel some of the disdain for this game is understandable, so I'm not gonna post it again.
Re: Pokémon Live Action Movie Could Be Penned By Writers Of Guardians Of The Galaxy And Gravity Falls
That's great, that's great. I really like both of those things, so this has me excited...but what about Danny Devito!?
Re: A Nicalis Sale is Live on the North American 3DS and Wii U eShops
I think I'll be getting Cave Story.
Re: Video: Take a Closer Look at Koroks in Breath of the Wild
Seems a bit odd how they just randomly put this video up with no specific timing. Eh. Oh well. Still looking forward to this game.
Re: Video: Daring Toads Come To The Rescue In Paper Mario: Color Splash
Well...at least the Toads look different. So...there's that, I guess. I don't know. It'll probably be better than Sticker Star, but it's still just not what I'm looking for in Paper Mario (inb4 people start calling me "entitled", "whiny brat", "anti-change", etc).
Re: Satoru Iwata Offered Pokémon GO Feedback From His Hospital Bed
Still pretty surprising that he's gone. RIP, Iwata.
Re: Game Boy Color Game 15 Years In The Making Finally Sees The Light Of Day
Alright, I'll look into it when they finish...if they finish.
Re: Localised Trailer and Updates Show Off Latest Additions to Pokémon Sun and Moon
@Wolfgabe I bet they worked hard to come up with that one. They must have...worked to the bone.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/021/889/68d.gif
Re: Localised Trailer and Updates Show Off Latest Additions to Pokémon Sun and Moon
"Team Skull has a BONE to pick with you!"
http://i.imgur.com/PzfwfZF.jpg
Re: Video: New Metroid Prime: Federation Force Trailer Arrives, and It's Still Fighting Dislikes
@roy130390 Fair enough point. There are some people who take things too far (as I said in the beginning of my post). I was simply pointing out for some that there are actual reasons for Metroid fans to be upset.
Re: Video: New Metroid Prime: Federation Force Trailer Arrives, and It's Still Fighting Dislikes
@FlashmanHarry
Re: Video: New Metroid Prime: Federation Force Trailer Arrives, and It's Still Fighting Dislikes
Christ, this comment section...let me just say something as someone who has never really been that into Metroid before: I personally believe that Metroid fans have every right to be a bit pi$$ed off. Do some of them take it a bit too far? Of course! I'm honestly surprised someone thought the petition to get this game cancelled would work. However, think of it this way: imagine that there's this series you really enjoy. Now, the last game wasn't really that great, but hey! I'm sure they'll make the next one better! Then you end up waiting 5 years to get a new installment completely in the dark, with no news whatsoever. The 25th anniversary is completely ignored. And when Nintendo DOES make a new installment, it's not even a main-series entry; it's a spin-off that doesn't look a whole like the series you enjoy. I'm telling you right now, if there was an actual mainline Metroid game being released alongside FedForce, there wouldn't be half as much backlash. You know why people didn't go ape**** over Pinball or Hunters? Because Metroid hasn't been completely ignored for years at that point. It was actually getting games. What makes this worse is that Federation Force was in development since 2009, so it's looking like Nintendo didn't so much as even THINK about making a new mainline Metroid game in the past 6 years. That's pretty bad. And then you've got the fact that they completely ignored the series 30th anniversary, so it got ignored twice. They didn't announce some special game, they didn't do a sale on the eshop, they didn't so much as tweet about it. And then you've got them taking down the Metroid II Remake...on the same day as the anniversary. I know that Nintendo has every right to protect their ips, HOWEVER, the fact that they did jack-all for the anniversary, yet wasted no time in going after a passion project that someone worked on for roughly a decade simply out of love for the series is just asking for bad pr. It was basically creating some bad blood with a fanbase that they already have bad blood with because of their incompetence. Oh, and as for some of you people defending this game, if you're looking forward to it, that's fine...as long as you're being reasonable and allowing others to be the opposite. For those who aren't in that category (and this includes some of the defenders I've seen in this comment section), and are simply trying to shut down people who are dissapointed and calling the Metroid fanbase "ungrateful", I'm calling it right now: some of you aren't even going to buy this game. You're just defending it because you can't handle Nintendo receiving even the tiniest bit of criticism. Not only that, BUT, if this were a third-party game, some of you wouldn't be as forgiving. So, yeah. Those are just my two cents. Oh, and one more thing: for those who want people to shut up because "they should vote with their wallet", while that method is a good one, that doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to voice their criticisms. Otherwise, Nintendo could potentially get the wrong message and take the bad sales (lets be honest, this game is gonna bomb) as "we don't want Metroid anymore".
Re: Dragon Quest X Confirmed for Nintendo NX, Again
God, I am so sick of all these articles talking about rumors-what? This isn't a rumor? This is actually confirmed?...Carry on, then.
Re: Sources Suggest That Pokémon and Mario Will Arrive on Nintendo NX in First Six Months
...Y'know what? I wish Nintendo would reveal the damn thing already. Not because I want to see what it is, no no no...it's because I just want these rumors to die already!
Re: Super Mario Adventures is Being Reprinted as a Graphic Novel
Nice! I always wanted to give this a read, so this is great!
Re: Retro: Bask in Nostalgia With The Nintendo Power Archive
@SH007ME It's all out of colored ink. Is that an issue?
Re: Retro: Bask in Nostalgia With The Nintendo Power Archive
But can I still get the free poster inside?
Re: Ubisoft Has "Surprises" Yet to be Announced for Nintendo NX
Hm...but will they be able to match the brilliance that is Just Dance?
Re: New Pokémon, Areas, Trials and 'Z-Moves' Are Revealed for Pokémon Sun and Moon
Alright, looking good! Also, I really the idea of region-specific versions of Pokemon (Ninetails looks majestic). Also, Exegguter is 35'09"
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/alolan-exeggutor/
Jesus, that's tall...
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime on Why the Wii U Was Misunderstood
I think that the name might've also had something to do with it...
Re: Weirdness: Shadow the Hedgehog is Rather Foul-Mouthed in Mario & Sonic at the Rio Olympics
"Damn. Not here!"
Re: Weirdness: Pokémon GO Has Inspired Parents in the US to Name Their Children After Pokémon
Well, I could see some of those working for names (Eevee, Roselia), but others (Mankey, Muk)...not so much.
Re: Talking Point: SEGA Has the Right Idea With Its Upcoming Sonic Projects
Okay. Just remember: no matter what happens, at least one of these two games will probably be good. Sonic Mania, while looking a bit more like a fangame, still is something that I'm going to be getting, and looks great. As for Sonic '17, hopefully it's good. We still haven't seen gameplay, so...who knows.
Re: Project Sonic 2017 Confirmed for Nintendo NX Release
Alright, let's hope it's good. However, while it's nice to see a new NX game, it just doesn't compare to the glory that is Just Dance!
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@WiltonRoots I'm honestly not sure if that would even work.
Re: Sonic Mania Announced for Spring 2017, But No Nintendo Platforms Are Included
@Seacliff I guess that's one positive way of looking at it. Remember, this is Sonic we're talking about. It could be much, MUCH worse.
Re: Sonic Mania Announced for Spring 2017, But No Nintendo Platforms Are Included
Well, hopefully it ends up there. I mean, it looks like the NX should be able to run it (assuming it's not potato-powered), and I'd assume that SEGA would be given a developer kit given that they seem to be very close with Nintendo nowadays, so I don't know. As for the game itself, I think it looks good. I mean, I'm gonna have to agree with @Seacliff here in that it basically looks like something that you could do with a fangame, but it at least looks like something you can do with a good fangame. It may not be as good as Generations, but it at least looks leagues better than Sonic's 15th anniversary "present".
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Project_Dolphin But I should be allowed to file a complaint.
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Project_Dolphin If we don't express our concerns, then how how are they supposed to know they goofed up? They're just gonna keep taking Paper Mario in this direction. And it IS Sticker Star 2.
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Project_Dolphin I'm not saying that they should cater to everyone's whim. What I'm saying is that MAYBE they should take feedback into account with some decisions. For example: when the majority of people say that they hated Sticker Star, DON'T MAKE STICKER STAR 2!
Re: VD-Dev Co-Founder, Fernando Velez, Passes Away
My condolences to his friends and family.
Re: Tempting North American Sonic eShop Discounts Are a Perfect Warm-Up to Anniversary Event
@Vee_Flames It has some different stages, but there is one issue: it's incredibly short. I managed to beat it in an hour. Still, I at least enjoyed myself, so...yeah.
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Project_Dolphin You do realize that Nintendo HAS listened to people in the past, right? I mean, they put Earthbound on the NA Eshop because of fan outcry. They put Bayonetta into Smash because of the Smash Ballot. Zelda's being open-world is basically a response to people complaining about the hand-holding in Skyward Sword. So they ARE capable of listening...occasionally. Even if they weren't, then that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to express my dissapointment. I am the paying customer, and if I'm not giving Nintendo my money, then they need to find out why. Also, what is there not understand about these complaints? They took Paper Mario and turned into something that it clearly isn't. Of course fans are going to upset.
Re: Tempting North American Sonic eShop Discounts Are a Perfect Warm-Up to Anniversary Event
@OorWullie Well, that's good to hear. However, I probably won't be picking up the Wii U version, since it turns out I got Transformed in the Sonic Bundle from a while back.
Re: Tempting North American Sonic eShop Discounts Are a Perfect Warm-Up to Anniversary Event
Eh...I already have everything there I'd be interested in. I mean, I don't All-Stars Racing, but I'm not so sure if I'd have fun just playing by myself, and I'm afraid that the online community might be dead, given that it's a racing game on Wii U that's not Mario Kart. Anyways, let's hope that game announcement is good!
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Oh, yeah! I forgot about these two...thank God they were stopped. They brought this upon themselves.
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Project_Dolphin I'm glad you understand.
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@Project_Dolphin But don't have a right to voice my criticisms if I don't like the direction a series is heading?
Re: Hands On: Painting a Clearer Picture of Paper Mario: Color Splash
@WiltonRoots Well I guess that explains it, somewhat.
@Madder128 Thank you for understanding. I hope you enjoy it, but I'm not gonna waste my money on something I'll most likely hate.
Re: Super Mario Apparel is Set to Appear in Miitomo Next Week
"Miitomo"
Huh? Oh, yeah! It was an app that was...a thing...but then it got old really quickly, and...yeah.