
For the past three decades Nintendo's Metroid saga has given players the chance to explore a vast science fiction universe filled with lore, wonders and hazards from the perspective of the one and only Samus Aran, the galaxy's greatest bounty hunter. As such, it's easy to forget that all her struggles form but a small part of a huge, largely untapped universe. The Galactic Federation Force is no stranger to Metroid veterans; we have witnessed holovids of brave Galactic Federation troopers from the G.F.S. Tyr hopelessly fighting off the Ing in Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, while we fought alongside GFed demolition troopers during the events of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. We even felt the long reach of influence from the Galactic Federation itself in the events of Metroid: Other M and Metroid Fusion.

In a bold move Nintendo is turning to the old narrative trick of removing the hero from the spotlight and allowing the player to experience events from the perspective of the unknown soldier - in this case, fresh out of the academy GFed troopers piloting brand new shiny metal toys. But is Metroid Prime: Federation Force really worthy of the name?
The game takes place after the events of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and the galaxy is still in turmoil despite the destruction of planet Phaaze. Perhaps tired of being utterly useless in the role of protecting Galactic Federation citizens from all that is wicked in the galaxy (or even more likely, running out of cash to cover Samus' protection fees), Operation Golem is approved. The goal is to achieve technological superiority over the Space Pirates via the development and deployment of Mechs - hulking robotic suits of armour piloted by specially-trained GFed soldiers. Thus the titular Federation Force is established. The game picks up as you, fresh out of the academy, arrive at your new home, the G.F.S. Aegis, which is currently orbiting planet Excelcion in the Bermuda system.

Something immediately caught our attention when playing Metroid Prime: Federation Force - the amount of graphical polish Next Level Games has given the finished product is astounding. Presentation is stellar, even more so if you use the stereoscopic 3D effect to its fullest, with the cut-scenes from the solo campaign especially coming out on top. From small details like the hand of your Trooper mimicking your selections from the bottom screen menu to the various planetary environments and foes, everything truly feels like a part of the Metroid Prime canvas (despite the new and rather controversial super-deformed art style). If you enjoyed the aesthetics of the Prime trilogy, you should find much to like here.
Don't worry about your ears either; the interactive soundtrack shifts from mellow and eerie to strident and tense, and the battle themes that play when you encounter threats really get your pulse racing. Elsewhere, sound effects truly deliver the impact of your ordinance, effectively communicating the power of each shot. As you'd expect from Next Level Games - the studio which produced the similarly gorgeous Luigi's Mansion 2 - Federation Force looks and sounds fantastic; we wish all developers would spend as much time making sure the 3DS hardware is being pushed as hard.

Releasing Metroid Prime: Blast Ball ahead of this (and permanently for free in Europe) was a smart move by Nintendo, not only ensuring awareness for the final game but also making sure everyone was already trained in controlling the Mech. If you took part in the tutorial training mission already, you will be happy to know that the game picks up and imports your save data, carrying the training mission completion as well as your Blast Ball career achievements. There are two control schemes available, with the first taking advantage of the 3DS gyroscope for precise aiming when holding the R shoulder button, not at all unlike using the Wii U GamePad's gyroscope for aiming in Splatoon.
The second scheme is for people with the New 3DS or the Circle Pad Pro peripheral, and enables the classic two analog stick FPS configuration, with the "R" shoulder button now used for firing and "L" replacing "B" for jumping and hovering. Players will certainly be divided between both since neither gives you an upper hand gameplay wise, so it largely comes down to personal taste. Next Level Games must have known how much of a deal breaker controls would be for this experience, and we're glad to announce they have succeed in getting very close to the silky controls of Metroid Prime Trilogy for this portable outing, a feat worthy of praise.

Being a very complete package, Federation Force offers both solo and multiplayer modes. The single player campaign takes place in the Bermuda System, and you are deployed on three different planets. Excelcion is a frozen wasteland that has somehow caught the attention of the Space Pirates trying to salvage a weapon from abandoned Galactic Federation facilities. Bion, on the other hand, is a desert wasteland where you will investigate the remains of an extinct alien civilization and try to unlock its secrets. Talvania is a gaseous planet where once prospered an ancient robotic civilization. Their technology is decaying dangerously and of course it has become a target of interest for the Space Pirates. Three different environments might not sound like much, but fortunately the 22 missions are more than enough to keep the lone Mech jockey occupied.
Don't worry about having to do the same thing over and over again, either. There is plenty of variety on offer here with missions testing your trigger finger, while others allow you to flex your puzzle-solving skills and environmental awareness; herding Ice Titans into cages has no right to be this much fun. It was while reading the various logs in order to learn more back story for each planet and exploring every nook and cranny of the mission area - for hidden Mech mods that bestow your robot with bonuses - that we arrived to our "Eureka" moment: this is a Metroid Prime game. Sure, the Mech moves slower and is more cumbersome than an agile bounty hunter running around in Chozo armour, but once you get into the swing of things combat quickly becomes incredibly smooth and intuitive.

If you do feel a bit lonely, you can take up to three autonomous drones that fly around your Mech and add to your firepower. If the difficulty is getting on your nerves (that could well happen around mission ten or so) there's a Lone Wolf Mech Mod that allows you to dish out twice the damage while receiving only half in return. Of course this mod is restricted to Solo mode, but it is a clever solution to keep things fair for the single players among you.
Even so, the Galactic Federation wasn't established by lone wolves (or lonely bounty hunters for that matter); it's all about co-operation. In case the cover art didn't give it away, a big chunk of the Federation Force experience is being a part of a four Mech squad. Multiplayer options include both local and online types, with every mission unlocked from the Solo campaign able to accommodate squads of up to four human players, while the frantic Blast Ball mode permits two teams of three Mechs to face each other for goal scoring glory. Having four human brains cooperating to tackle the various mission challenges the game throws at you is what Federation Force is truly all about.

There's a lot to enjoy with this game by oneself, but in order to fully appreciate it - and vastly improve those high scores - you have to become a part of a squad. Good teams will try to balance out their loadouts for specific roles, such as medic or heavy weapons specialist. Depending on the missions you choose to tackle some "classes" fair better than others, so it is up to the other teammates to complement your choice of profession. Of course there are no real classes as such in the game; everyone gets the same Mech model, customized with mods and paint jobs (two of them exclusive from both Samus amiibo), so if you want to be a medic just load up as many repair capsules as you can carry and then shoot your allies when you see their energy go below 50 percent.
We do mean "carry" literally, as your Mech's loadout is limited to the amount of weight it can bear, but you can change this by using certain mods. Meeting one of the many bosses alone and with only Repair Kits to throw at is just failure waiting to happen, so make sure you keep the guys and gals carrying those Super Missiles healthy. Finding some decent players to be part of your squad is yet another moment of brilliance in the making; it is incredibly rewarding when a squad clicks together and you tackle those troublesome missions from the Solo Campaign with a bunch of like-minded friends or strangers. Oh, and don't worry if one of your teammates goes around grabbing all the mods found on a mission - in the debrief everyone takes turns picking the spoils one at a time. Who said there was no democracy in the military?

We are perhaps a bit spoiled by the likes of Xenoblade Chronicles X or LBX: Little Battle eXperience when it comes to customisation, and as such would love to be able to tinker a little more with our Mech for greater individuality. As it stands your whole squad is only differentiated by the paint jobs and colour hue, with all the customisation done in the loadouts section invisible to the naked eye. We feel that the ability to customize your Mech exterior would bring another level of depth, but as they say, there is no "I" in "Team". If the lack of deep customization might not be a real issue for most, communication between players is however a key concern.
If you are playing locally with friends it is easy to shout orders, ask for help or warn of immediate dangers, but while playing online you are limited to the set phrases the game allows you to pick. Be warned that despite allowing you to pick your trooper voice, the people on your squad might not understand your cool Japanese shouts for danger. The game also displays the text on the bottom screen, but trust us when we say you won't have much chance to read it in the middle of a Space Pirate ambush. Real-time voice chat would be a valuable asset for this game's online experience.

But is Federation Force still worth playing after you are done with the campaign? The answer is yes. Every mission is scored on your ability complete it, regarding factors such as time, bonus objectives, amount of enemies destroyed and so on. It actually shares a lot of design DNA with Star Fox Guard. If you are the kind of player who loves to improve on performance, alone or with a team, the game offers quite a lot of replay value at the cost of the surprises from the first play-through. Plus there is always the chaos of Blast Ball to mess about with if you're short on time and just want to hop in your Mech for a bit.
Conclusion
Despite the undue hate it has been subjected to over the past year, Metroid Prime: Federation Force is a very impressive, polished and playable package - the only real grumble we have is that during online play the lack of voice chat can become maddening, and the game's built-in chat function is an inadequate substitute. This aside, Next Level Games has treated the franchise with the respect that it deserves while successfully attempting to bring co-op multiplayer to the world of Samus Aran. While you don't get to play as her here, it's easy to accept that this game is all about the unknown soldier, the average space Joe (or space Jane) who signed up for their military service in the Galactic Federation. Once you become comfortable with that and the excellent tutorials draw you in, you have in your hands yet another fantastic Nintendo offering for your 3DS.
We look forward to seeing what the future of this particular spin off holds, because as it stands right now Federation Force is an impressive and solid foundation; it's more than able to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans until the inevitable return of Samus Aran.
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after all the hate this may actually be worth checking out.
Can't wait for this. Loved Luigi's Mansion 2 and they obviously did a great job here too!
Did you really just say "Samus who?" and then claim this garbage can "satisfy" hardcore fans? I used to respect this place, now all my respect is gone. Pathetic.
Sadly I doubt it will hold down hardcore Metroid fans, people gave it hate from day one and now I doubt from saying 'Samus Who' will make it a whole lot better...
Nintendo: stay the same and we hate you. Change and we hate you. No matter what nintendo does, gamers will hate them.
@therealgamer That's so far from true it's ridiculous. Stop trying to defend them on their failures.
Glad to see it's actually good but unfortunately not enough people will care to give it a try. I'm not sure if this will even hit 100k here tbh. I hope it does well but only time will tell.
@Diortem chill... out ...
@Tsuchinoko You should mind your own business.
Still no
@Diortem how can you possibly know this game is a failure? its been available for 8 minutes. videos rarely do a game justice, either bad or good. and lets not forget a lot of people were upset when metroid went from 2d adventure to first person and we all know how awesome that turned out. im not saying this will be the best game ever but its silly to form such a strong opinion from a few e3 videos.
@therealgamer a tragic truth...
It's a testament to the development team that the game design itself is proving to override the reactionary hate machine. Glad to see them overcoming that. Wonder how many haters can overcome their ego and give it a try just based on all the positive reviews.
Samus who? I thought it was "remember me?"
#AnthonyHiggsforSMA5H
@Tsuchinoko If you don't mind your own business... Diortem is capable of saying you really mean stuff!
It's just not the 30th anniversary game we deserve but the one we will get.
@Diortem
I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that. Good lord.
I am a massive Metroid fan, it's my no1 favourite franchise hands down and i'll admit, at first i couldn't believe what they'd done to Metroid but now i am quite looking forward to giving this game a go, Next Level Games did a fantastic job with Luigi's Mansion 2, pushed the 3DS to its limits so i'm willing to give this the benefit of the doubt.
Even if it doesn't turn out as good as i hope, i'm NOT giving Nintendo the excuse they need to dump the franchise completely due to this game's poor sales ! lol
@Diortem Calm down, and as a mod I can say this as it's my business.
But ya, good to see that some will enjoy it, will see about picking up a physical version.
I am seriously starting to think Nintendo bans voice chat in it's online games involving it's IP's as a basic rule (Pokemon is the exception but still). A game like this should totally have voice chat as an option
This looks pretty fun. I'll probably buy it if one of my friends also gets it.
I should probably get a New 3DS too before Pokemon Sun and Moon come out anyway. But the NX is coming out soon too... So many things to buy and so little money to spend.
The way this is worded makes it seem like you have to play each mission solo to unlock it for co-op.. Is that the case? If so, that's an absolute deal breaker
Thanks for the uncompromising review, @Shiryu! I was willing to discredit this game, myself, had the gameplay turned out to be mediocre (I was imagining a somewhat less fun version of Prime: Hunters), but nevertheless, I wanted to hear actual information about more of the game to give it a fair chance before deciding to ignore it. But it's lovely to see that it is indeed a great game.
NL seems to have back-pedaled on the huge praise they gave to Other M (a 9/10, namely) due to SJWs criticising its supposedly "anti-feminist" themes after it was released, so the impartiality you've demonstrated in reviewing this has largely restored my faith in seeing a return to Nintendo Life's "selling out to fun, not to social issues" philosophy. Thanks again.
@Undead_terror It's not your job to control how people feel. If I post something inappropriate, I'll let you know, buddy.
So it plays well. Still, that chili art style is awful. Probably won't get it, but good to hear it's not all bad.
@Diortem And if you keep at it, I will be the one there with a hammer!, happy gaming ; )
@Diortem He does control how people behave. I don't like this either, but that doesn't mean you have to do a Kardashian impression.
Sad thing is, I could tell when I saw it that it was going to be a decent game. It's just in the same quandry (No, I'm not correcting that. Deal with it) as Metroid Prime: Hunters, where no matter how good it was, it just doesn't feel like it belongs in the same category as Metroid Prime. I guess you could argue that that's what spin-offs are for, taking the series in a different direction instead of strictly adhering to the old conventions. But it still has to "feel" like the series it's attatched to. Metroid Prime: Pinball nails the Metroid feel while still being purely a pinball game. I'm not against a Metroid spin-off. This...just seems too alien to me. Like, at no point could I approach it with the same mindset as I would with any other Metroid game, so even if it's good, I could very easily be disappointed. Not to mention the focus on co-op play kills 85% of my interests in it (just like Tri-Force...).
Oh well, I might pick it up someday, used, at 1/3rd price. But until then, there still hasn't been a new Metroid game since 2007 as far as I'm concerned...
@Diortem have you played it or is it just garbage because it's not what you want?
@Diortem Really nailing that Kardashian impression.
@faint It's garbage because after 9 years of no Metroid, we get this game that is not Metroid. And yes, I played it. Terribly bland; Metroid was never a shooter like this uninspired game.
@Diortem snap
...just thought I'd take a picture to remember this moment. The world needs to remember the days when a user flips out and threatens to report a community moderator.
I'll pass.
Knock it off -Lz
I've never been much of a Metroid fan, I can acknowledge its a great series they just don't appeal much to me, so I've never had any interest in this. Though I do like this initial impression as it would be quite nice to quiet the outcry this game has garnered since its reveal.
@Diortem when exactly did you spend an hour playing the main game? How exactly did you get it?
@faint Nah see they played Blast Ball and considered the deed done.
@ProfPeridot the issue here is it's a mini game
@Dio I'm not defending anything. Have you played it? Have I? Maybe hold your judgement before complaining. I bet you're one of those people that love WindWaker right?
It may not be the Metroid game you were hoping for, but it doesn't make it a bad game. And Next Level Games generally don't make bad games. Glad the reviewer could see that and didn't just ride the negative reception.
Can't wait to start playing, but I have to wait till September 😢
@Dio hi diortem
@ProfPeridot it's @Diortem they started a new account five minutes ago to start trouble I assume
@faint Yep this is so pitiful and I love it.
@Dio
You signed up six minutes ago, might want to reconsider poking bears so early.
@Diortem Would you like some french cries with your wamburger?
OT: This looks like it will be a true Metroid game, enjoyable.
@Dio Besides how everyone called it a sin because of the artstyle and departure from the seriousness of the past game? Maybe like how this game is? I wouldn't call myself a genius because it's not exactly rocket science to see the similarities.
@Dio if you don't know why he is comparing this to windwaker you must be quite young. Do you have school tomorrow? It's awfully late ya know.
How...
Why...
...Okay, I'll admit, I've probably done the same thing at least twice when I was his age. Oh, to be young again, and at the mercy of my own hormones, whilst being entirely ignorant of the consequences...
"it's more than able to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans"
So, this has heavy exploration and upgrades that allow you to progress, then?
Hunters had really fun multiplayer that made the game worth buying, despite most of what Metroid was known for not being present. I can see this game having a similar history. I'll probably buy it eventually, most likely used so I don't give Nintendo the wrong impression (since the core gameplay seems like it could've been turned into its own IP and they're just riding on the Metroid name).
@Dio and @Diortem You created a new account so you can complain about this game without risking getting banned from you older account.Clever or pathetic? I'd say the latter.
@Dio Gameplay seems aight to me. Maybe you should just leave it like it is and stop comparing it to a series that seems to be, for the time being done story wise.
@Dio
I could reconsider... but I won't.
@Dio he made a correct comparison. When windwaker came out fans hated it. The original sold rather poorly for a main line Zelda due to blind hatred.
Anyways lets keep the future comments about the review, if he wants to dig his grave deeper then let it be.
@Dio Your choice of username for your stunt double is less original than this game's art style. Have fun being IP banned.
Well, now that that drama's over, I'll at least agree that the tag line is a bit of a low blow to hardcore fans. I know I cringed the moment I saw it, and such loaded words were bound to ruffle some feathers, as we clearly witnessed. I mean, it'd be fine if it was necessary to convey the reviewer's messege, but I'm not even sure it goes with what is written in the review body after reading it through. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's outrageous, or that the drama we put up with was warranted, but at the very least, I'd highly advise against casting stones when the pot is already boiling over...
Honestly I wasn't really looking forward to this game outside of morbid curiosity but I've started hearing good things so now I might pick it up before my next trip and give me something to mess with
Remember boys and girls, play NOICELY when revving up comments, cuz if you try to do a warudo and posTED comments like.....dat, then your accounts leg will be revved up in the ban fryer maybe if it gets bad enough, also, might get this game at a later date.
@ProfPeridot haedox and gamexplain have also released positive reviews now.
I knew it. Despite the incredible level of hate (some, justified, most, however really isn't...its just a video game after all guys and gals...) Level Up Games hit it out of the park with Dark Moon. That came was a tour-de-force for the 3DS in 2013 (the year of the 3DS I'd say 😉). Federation Force isn't going to be a smash hit like LMDM was, but still it'll be a good game. I trust Level Up Games...and while this may not be the droids you're looking for...God willing the NX will prove to be a bountiful system for the Metroid series. I'm going read a few more reviews, but I think I'll give this a try. Glad Level Up Games didn't cave to overly angered "fanboys/girls" kept a level head and released a solid enough game!
@Shampoo The guy made a double account to spam the comments about a game he had never played. I feel the punishment was warranted.
@Shampoo Says the new user...IP ban now.
@Vincent294 He said in his comment he made his account just to defend Diortem. So obviously it's a new account doesn't mean they should be banned.
@ProfPeridot read the way shampoo's post is written. I think it's still the same guy.
@faint Go Nintendo and NWR have also.
@Shampoo So attacking a game that no one outside reviewers has had a chance to play is logical?
I can't take this review seriously. When you reference the graphical polish on something this ugly it really makes me question how impartial the reviewer really is. I'll read a few more reviews from other sites before making my mind up but the Impression I have so far is:
1. Solo looks poor and middle of the road at best.
2. Online seems okay but let down by lack of voice chat to help with the coordination of the missions.
3. Local co-op looks like where all the fun of the game is to be had but I get the impression that 3-4 players are needed to get the most out of it.
Ah, yes. Diortem is from another community; WiiUDaily I think. She's pretty much always like this. Just don't feed the troll and hopefully she'll get bored and leave.
As a Metroid fan since the series started, this game looks good and I would certainly pick it up if I had a 3DS.
I said it before in a previous article but I'll say it again.I believe this was meant to release along with a proper Metroid on Wii U.But with the Wii U's struggles,the shift to NX and then its delay and non reveal,they just haven't had the chance to show us this new Metroid yet and poor FF has had to suffer the consequences of that.Nintendo aren't daft,well they are sometimes but I'm sure they were well aware FF wasn't going to cut it as a 30th anniversary game.We'll see but I think we'll be seeing Samus in the eventual NX reveal.
@Shampoo @Diortem got on the wrong foot by going after a mod but you know this @dio
@SheldonRandoms There's no reasoning with trolls. Good luck, I doubt that's the last of him/'em.
@roy130390 @Dio @Diortem @Shampoo
Wow, 4 alts! Aint you a determined little bugger!
It wasn't about how similar each game was to each other, but the reaction that the fans gave due to it being a massive departure to series norm. If you want to attack a Metroid Prime spinoff, attack Metroid Prime Pinball! That's a flippin' pinball game, for gods sake!
I was about to say that the admins are about to bury you 6 feet under, but you've dug your grave quite a bit deeper than that now.
@Marmaduck 3. Roy's innocent.
@Shampoo @Diortem the windwaker comment was near the bottom of this thread and everyone was already irritated with you I mean them but they I mean you know that don't you.
@Shampoo Are you comparing it to true metroids like super or fusion or the reboot spin off side show of prime? Metroid changes it's gameplay fairly often. No reason to hate on this one for being different. You just end up sounding like an old person afraid of change or an edgy kid on heir parents computers. If you ant to hate on the game, give it a try. At least then we can appreciate your opinions.
At this rate, the comment section is going to get locked and we won't be able to talk about how awesome FF sounds
@Marmaduck Roy is innocent and not an alt. He was being sarcastic. All the rest are alt's
@Vincent294 - Yeah, roy was just being silly and/or prophetic.
@shaneoh I honestly wish it would be. This review was always going to bring the worst of the worst in (like me) and there was no real way to prevent it.
@shaneoh - Believe me, if we're talking about Final Fantasy by then, the comments deserve to be locked.
Goes back to playing Final Fantasy IV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU
...Oh...this...this is what you....oooooooh...
The Destructoid and IGN review feels pretty spot on for this game. And one troll caused all this trouble in this comment section? lol.
@roy130390
Okay, sorry. 3 alts.
@FlashmanHarry Have you played a 3DS game before? Because I think pretty much everyone that has knows that screenshots online don't do the system or its games any justice. In motion, on the 3DS screen, with the 3D effect on, is the only way to judge the graphics of any 3DS game.
@Marmaduck I was just replying to you lol, it's ok. I'm just curious, why did you think I was him mate?
@roy130390 Because you defended the tweet.
@-DEMISE- Only on a smartphone can you judge it. And only the 3DS can show the 3D effect, which is pretty well done in this game.
@Marmaduck Dude... I was actually making fun of him. Read my previous comments, I'm a huge supporter of this game, and also a fan of Metroid since 1995.
I am very pleased it got a good review here. I thought it would be good. I'm getting it!
Diortem is from the Wii U Daily community. Not sure why she decided to come over here. On that site pretty much the entire comment section on every article is trolling.
Anyways, the reviews seem to be VERY polarized.
Seems like it's better played as a multiplayer co-op game like Triforce Heroes.
I'm gonna take a guess here. The only good reviews for this game are only going to come from Nintendo fan sites. The rest? Will be the saying the same thing. It's meh
@Pichuka97 Um, yeah. We know they do that because that is what they do. And the reason they do it is that they don't want children to play their games and be subjected to a constant barrage of swearing and death threats from random angry 12 year olds, which is what chat always descends into in competitive games like this.
The reviews were going to be polarizing from the get go. The most important thing you can do with something like this is remain as unbiased as possible until there's more reviews or you get a chance to try it for yourself.
@TwilightOniAngel Here's one that's not a fan site.
http://kotaku.com/metroid-prime-federation-force-the-kotaku-review-1785489769
I had a feeling next level games would pull through, their games rarely disappointed me.
I have faith in their abilities as game developers, and i'll continue to support their future titles as well as this one.
Very excited to pick up this game. The disappointment of no new traditional Metroid game still lingers, but that won't stop me from giving this game a chance.
@-DEMISE- yes I've played a 3ds game before. You can't honestly be saying that this is one of the best looking games on the system.
@FlashmanHarry
It beats The Last of Us Remastered, at any rate!
@TwilightOniAngel I'm going to take a guess here. If someone likes the game and gives it a good review, you are gonna think he's a Nintendo Fanboy. I just know something: Jose Otero (IGN) has been a hater of the game since the first trailers and he was quite vocal about it. Personally, I think GameXplain has really good reviewers that take their time to analize and explain why they like or dislike a game, and they feel quite positive about this one. I can't say much about Destructoid, but I tend to disagree with their reviews quite a lot so in my case their opinion isn't relevant.
@TwilightOniAngel actually it's getting some nice reviews from very picky youtuber sad well.
@FlashmanHarry How incredibly odd that you took my comment to mean that I think this game is "one of the best looking games on the system." I haven't played it, so as an honest person not given easily to emotional knee-jerk reactions, I can only say that I can't judge how it looks until I've played it. If you're talking about art direction, that's a completely separate issue. And on the topic of graphical performance and production quality, I will definitely take the word of a reviewer who's actually played the game over that of some random person on the internet who hasn't.
@-DEMISE- sorry for the mistake.
@-DEMISE- Thanks for the link
@roy130390 1. Don't make assumptions like an idiot. Or better yet speak for me. 2.If i was really gonna say that,i would'ave said it in my original comment. 3. Not even gonna respond to the rest of your nonsense.
@-DEMISE- - He said "as unbaised as possible", yet you produce a Kotaku link. That is the exact opposite. He said up, you went down. Way down. Until you broke through to the other side.
EDIT: Whoops - I thought you were replying to PredPerriot. Or whatever his name is. I can't spell it.
I still don't like Kotaku, though. :T
@TwilightOniAngel Lol you are joking right? You just made an assumption with :
"I'm gonna take a guess here. The only good reviews for this game are only going to come from Nintendo fan sites. The rest? Will be the saying the same thing. It's meh"
See the irony?
Do you even know the meaning of nonsense?
By the way, I respond to whoever I want. Deal with it.
The game doesn't seem even half as bad as early fan vocalizing made it out to be. Unfortunately I have no money for games right now so I can't buy it. T^T
@roy130390 Cause maybe sometimes in fan sites like this. They always have some blind bias towards the company they're making articles for. Not to the levels of fanboyish. That's why i said that. That's why i wrote that comment.
Again if i was really gonna say all the people who like this is a fanboy. I would say it in a heartbeat. Cause i don't care . But you said that. You spoke for me. And i don't like that. Not one bit.
@therealgamer I know people act that way, but I still love them. Lost reavers got slammed on this site and I love it specially if i got friends on my Xbox one to chat with whilst playing, it's fun chat less as well, but damn it needs it those bosses be crazy fun if you have a good group. Wii u was great to me, with poor marketing.
I haven't played this cause I don't have a 3ds sadly, but just no time even if I did. My collectors edition of the beautiful xenoblade x is long over due for love plus 80 some odd games.
This game could be a diamond in rough but people bashing this site cause of their opinion.
The gameplay never looked offensively bad, just kind of bland so I can see some people getting a kick out of this. I don't know why anyone would want to play a co-op shooter on a tiny underpowered handheld, but there it is. I still think there's hope that Nintendo will return to the original style of Metroid and we'll get a game that the fans actually want. The series isn't dead until they make it clear they want this to be the new direction of Metroid.
Or if they just stop making Metroid games. I guess that could happen too.
@TwilightOniAngel I couldn't care less about what you like or dislike.
I never asked why did you say that and it's still an assumption, it's quite simple to understand. It's really, really dumb to tell people not to assume things when you do it.
@roy130390 It's like i'm speaking to a wall. Hell i bet a wall would give me more of a conversation on this subject.
And you could've just asked what i meant from that comment. It's simple isn't? But that's too much for people i guess.
Let's not derail the comments with more (passive) aggression or arguments please~
@TwilightOniAngel In your special situation, I bet you probably think it would!
I just said that I never asked what you tried to mean... geez... you know what, there's no point in this.
@Meowpheel Sorry mate this is the last reply from my part. You are right.
@Diortem It not that far from the truth, sort of like how everyone thinks skinny jeans are cool. It's cool jump on hate wagon just like hipsters in their sisters jeans.
They like this game what's wrong with that?
Either way it is a misconception when people say if NX fails Nintendo is doomed when in reality they have such much liquidity. Nintendo is not going anywhere and I am excited!
Doesn't take much to rile up Nintendo fans that's for sure! Hahaha!
You guys should just eat each other
@Lizuka
Perhaps a poor business decision, but according to reviews like this one it is a good GAMING decision.
And isn't that the real reason we are here?
Having never played a Metroid game other than Hunters (I know, I know) I might pick this one up. I could care less about sticking with a protagonist if the game is still good.
@Meowpheel My bad
@Diortem Says the person who hasn't played it yet... Pathetic
@fiben1002 - To be fair, Metroid Prime: Hunters was a huge departure from Metroid standard as well. I think the issue is more that this is much more of a (co-op) FPS, whereas the fans generally want a hardcore action-adventure-platformer again...
@faint no Diortem had played the sports demo and condems it from that game alone. I hate fan boys/girls so much. They are so narrow minded.
This looks quite good. Looking forward to finally playing it. So it doesn't star Samus, it's a FPS, your going to be playing as a floating arm canon for 90% of the game. That's the Prime series for you.
Hhhmmmmmm. My two main gaming reads, this site and Eurogamer seem to offer different opinions. Seen as I wholeheartedly disagreed with NL's 8/10 on Star Fox Zero, it might be safe for me disagree with this review too.
I do wonder if the person who decided this was a good idea was stealthily placed at Konami to sway them to turn Metal Gear Solid into a Zombie game
I always intended to pick this up. Being angry about what you did not get seems to be rather deluded.
I'll wait for a price drop on this one. Yeesh, $40?! Obviously the damage has been done with the art style and a radical gameplay shift that many a bruised metroid fan can't look at this without a head cleanse. I think Paper Mario Color Splash will have a better reception with the same score via the paper Mario fans since it's only problem is a Sticker Star copy and paste which the Paper Mario team seems to be fixing.
That being said......
I'm never doubting Next Level Games again.
What I still don't know is if two players can play this in co-op mode. Is it only one or four players or are two players possible?
@Vincent294 i'm a fan of the chili art style. It smells terriffic.
@Tisteg80
"with every mission unlocked from the Solo campaign able to accommodate squads of up to four human players"
It's right there in the text. Also it's quite obvious.
@Diortem Don't make your opinions public if you can't handle ideas to the contrary.
It's funny how all Nintendo websites give it an 8/10 and other critics like IGN and Destructoid a 5.9/10 and a 5.5/10.
Seems like Nintendo fanboys giving a Nintendo game a higher score than it deserves again.
I haven't played the game. Never will play the game. It looks boring. Robots look like silver turds with colored helmets. If u play this game u r boring and I wouldn't hesitate to tell you "stop playing that, it's making me feel bad for you and your time left to live your life, if u died tomorrow you would be very sad you wasted your last life minutes playing it." I'm with @diortem on this one.
@Diortem Let's talk about being pathetic: an unjustified hate towards a game without even playing it.
Its nice to see how the dislike wave made them cancel this game, eh?
This looks like a great game, but does it deserve to be a Metroid game? Well does it have Metroids? Yes. Does it expand the Metroid Prime lore? Yes. Does it have everything weve loved about the Metroid Prime games besides Samus? Yes. So all in all I believe this is a great Metroid game. Besides if this game expands the story past Metroid Prime 3, then that means another console Metroid Prime may be coming soon.
@Yasume Oh yes IGN gives the best and most fair reviews. Now if Pokemon Omega Ruby didnt have so much dang water in it, THAT WOULD BE A MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@EVIL-C Ah, I see. Thanks! But the question is how the game scales the opponents. With only two players it is obvious that you can play every possible role like healer, damage dealer and so on. Are the missions harder with only two players?
@rushiosan hate doesn't have to be justified if it looks like silver turds with helmets.
@patbacknitro18
What does this have that other Metroid games have? Exploration? No. Isolation? No. Classic Metroid upgrades? No!
Even in Mario spinoffs you still play as one of the brothers or in four swords you still play as link! I've heard the controls are awful! Gyro control really! Why not use abxy for aiming? (No pad pro or new 3D)
But let me ask whats so bad about this game? Like what makes it a terrible game? Its a FPS on the 3ds. It looks amazing compared to other 3ds titles. The controls are smooth and responsive. It has great replay value. It fits for both puzzle solvers and trigger fingers. Its just a good game. Does it deserve to be a Metroid game? Well absolutely. It expands the Metroid Lore. It explains what actions are being taken while Samus is away else where. Its a great game. And would it be diffrent if it was named something else? No it wouldent. Everyone would just say its a metroid prime clone or ripoff.
@GameOtaku So you mean changing a games formula for a new style that fits with the overall theme of a Space team rather then a lone wolf bounty hunter is bad and makes the game terrible? Just because they change a few things does not mean its ruined. Its mission based. Upgrades are made in a diffrent form. And its not like you have an army with you. 4 people at most can still get out numbered at times.
@patbacknitro18
The forces are supposed to be incompetent! That's why they rely on hunters!
The reviewer at Nintendo Enthusiast said there's no puzzles, and just waves of enemies, just very little replayability with only 22 linear levels!
I played Blast Ball and the training missions on it. I'm following the trailers for this. The game still doesn't appeal to me, so I won't bother with it.
@Diortem Don't let the door hit ya
@GameOtaku 1 puzzles involving both the enviorment as well as enemys. Some enemys cant be killed and need to be captured. Which is why you need to work as a team to lure it into the trap and not get killed.
It has alot of replay ability, mainly multiplayer. And it evens out the killing hordes of enemys and puzzle levels. But the thing is their not so much incompitent, but that their much weaker then samus. Heck her power armor is like 4 of their suits. Thats why team work is important. Alone they are weak, but united they can be a force to be wreckened with. And besides this is all after Metroid Prime 3. And I garentee the Federation Force will play some nice roles in Metroid Prime 4. Besides Samus is only 1 person. And theirs a huge space out their. If they only relyed on Samus to save them all the time then their screwed. Just like in the beginning of Super Metroid
@CanisWolfred I don't like kotaku either, but I would never under any circumstance accuse them of being biased in favor of Nintendo.
@Ichiban And you should stop coming to this site, but that's obviously never going to happen.
Been playing for a few hours, and I definitely agree with the review. It actually feels more metroid-like than I thought it would, but I really appreciate that it does something new with the Prime formula. Hopefully a future Prime game incorporates a mode like this!
It's funny how pointless all the hatred is about an unreleased game. It gets a good review and then... "Maybe it's not so bad after all". Why hate it so much in the first place?
@patbacknitro18
I AM A LONE WOLF! I don't care about co-op! I don't have decent internet for gaming. I've always preferred isolated one against many style of gameplay the Metroid series is known for! The last Metroid game I played was fusion, lots of puzzles, nonlinear no co-op, in a word , Perfection!
@Lizuka A poor business decision? I don't think that's really the phrase you wanted to go with. But if it is, you should know that it's not an especially wise "business decision" for Nintendo to make any Metroid game, even an exceptionally good one, because they sell very poorly.
The fact some reviews are saying this is a good game really exposes the bias in others I think. The fact there was backlash already meant there was going to be guaranteed bad reviews, simply out of preconceived notions and emotion.
I'll be taking a time out from MH Generations to play. But since nobody else I know is, I may hit up the forums to play with some other members here.
This definitely looks like the best Metroid spinoff yet. Although I really liked Spinball. That game was amazing
@Diortem If you played Blast Ball, then you didn't play this game.
Sometimes Nintendo makes bad decisions like this one that feels like a slap on the face. Fans asked for a Metroid game and they gave us this thing, I cannot tell it's a bad game, but this is NOT Metroid. Feels like something similar to what they did when people asked for a Zelda game on Wii U and they partnered with Koei to release Hyrule Warriors, but were cautious enough not to call it "The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Warriors", why call this "Metroid Prime"? I'm far from saying the game is bad, but after watching gameplay videos it can't feel less like a Metroid game and more like a squad based FPS.
Nintendo has to stop giving fans things they didn't ask for and try to give them what they actually ask for, we asked for Metroid, Samus, exploration, "metroidvania"..not a mission-based FPS in Metroid's universe. But oh well...
Btw, even though Metroid games don't sell as well as Mario and Zelda, almost all its games have sold at least 1m copies, with the exception of Zero Mission, Trilogy and Hunters (which sold at least 600-700k).
@GameOtaku Ok well I can respect that. However that still does not make Federation Force a bad game. You have every right to hate it, but that still does not make it bad. I mean I hate Steven Universe, but I still say its a good show and does so much right.
So what if it focus's heavily on multiplayer. Just play it in single player mode. It just makes it more difficult. And personally I think the last great Metroid was Metroid Prime Hunters on DS
@MrSeitaro Mistake? Youll have to wait for the sales on that one. Yes they asked for a new Metroid Prime. And they said, "Maybe we should change the formula of the game and try something new for the series. Maybe we should do something diffrent from the past 3 games and make it an enjoyable experience that can be shared with friends." But I guess people just want Nintendo to do the same games over and over
@Diortem "Metroid was never a shooter like this uninspired game."
Uh, have you ever heard of the Prime Trilogy? They're just as relevant to the series as any other game, and they also happen to be first-person shooters, just like Federation Force.
@patbacknitro18
"But I guess people just want Nintendo to do the same games over and over"
Which they get, and they complain (NSMB anyone?)
@patbacknitro18 Nope, I'm fine if they change the formula to make it fun or innovative, but straying so far from the Metroid formula feels like a mistake; it's like if they released a Legend of Zelda without Link, or Zelda, and not an adventure game but, I don't know, a sports game, or a board game. Metroid has a base, and that base formula is what fans love about Metroid, so changing it so much makes it feel like anything else, but not a Metroid game.
@shaneoh 1. I am listening to that song right now lol. Love best Zelda Rap Ever. And 2. NSMB never really gets any hate. Its usually Zelda and Metroid that gets a poop ton of hate. I mean Mario is just an "Eh" character. But people are so freaking serious over Link and Samus.
@Diortem Since you hate this site now, you might as well leave instead of assaulting anyone who commits the awful crime of disagreeing with you. Just a friendly suggestion.
@MrSeitaro Well to be fair they did make Tingles Quest and by god that was a pretty popular game, just not in America
Problem is they tack on Metroid Prime in the title but is not! If they named it Federation Force: Metroid Heroes it probably would not have garnered as much hate! I hope Nintendo is taking notes of all criticism this is having and start on a classic formula Metroid (at least make it metroidvania style, co-op should just be secondary)
@patbacknitro18
I'm pretty sure I see NSMB2/U get flak for being "the same." But yeah, Samus and Link cop it worse.
@Yasume That isn't really diferent from Nintendo haters. Let's not forget that IGN praises real garbage games like CoD and calls truly great games repetitive and boring. Like they say, you can't spell ignorant without saying IGN. I wouldn't trust IGN reviews not now not ever.
@MrSeitaro
If Nintendo never gave us things fans didn't ask for....
We wouldn't have a single game to play aside from 2D Mario and top-down Zelda games. No Chibi Robo, no Star Fox, no RPG Mario games, no Pikmin, no Xenoblade, no Yoshi's Island, no F-Zero, no Pilotwings, no Luigi's Mansion, no.... etc etc etc.
The name of the game is creating new things people never asked for. When all you do is create the same thing over and over because that is all people ever want, you end up with people complaining that they do the same thing and that they're sick of it. You get people complaining that they never take risks. You get people complaining that there's never any new IP. Until people ask for new IP and then when they get it they say that's not what they wanted either.
It's a joke if you think listening to fans and what they demand is the answer to anything. I hate to say that because I'm a fan myself and gosh dang I've been wanting a lot of things for a long time, but I'd rather have them making things we didn't ask for, than only making what we do.
EDIT
The irony is that all people ever ask for are sequels to games that we originally never asked for.
And NSMB2 dosent get hate for being the same. It gets hate for being boring as all heck. I mean even by Mario standards the levels are very uncreative and short. Sure the whole collect more coins thing is cool, but theirs no reason to. Would be nice if they added a shop system or something to use the coins on. And it has almost no replay value. NSMBWiiU definitly did it better
@Yasume There are only like five major sites with reviews up yet, and there are as many positive reviews in that group as there are tepid ones.
Also, you have to be joking if you think Chris Carter at d-toid is an unbiased influencer. When it comes to Nintendo games, his reviews are never anything other than negative. I trust his opinion about as much as I trust a car salesman's taste in cars. And Jose at ign is only marginally better.
@Shiryu : Ok after reading this, I'm sold.
But is there any "download multiplayer" option ? Or do every player need his/her game cardridge ?
@Yasume As has been pointed out by others, Eurogamer, US Gamer and Kotaku (all non-Nintendo sites) gave it positive reviews, too.
@JaxonH I partly agree with you, all I'm saying is: this game should have been named differently, call it: Galactic Squadron, or whatever, why use the "Metroid" brand on something that clearly is not a Metroid game? I'm not saying Ninty should keep releasing the same old: you're fully upgraded, you get damaged, get the upgrades again, defeat boss formula...but damn, they could do a lot of great things with the Metroid brand...something more open world where you take bounties on different planets but being able to explore them on your own, with an interesting story and side-quests, being able to pilot Samus' ship...nope, they gave us chibi Lego-like mechas doing missions on closed environments (no real exploration or alternative paths) and getting "mods", no Samus or anything else. If they wanted to tackle the "how it is to be a Federation soldier" they could have added some missions where you controlled a soldier, I dunno.
The game is not bad, I've played it, but it is NOT Metroid, even if they threw some enemies from Metroid's universe and used the so-called Federation Force. It's like Hyrule Warriors, sure, it's kinda fun...you fight enemies from TLOZ's universe...but even then it is NOT a TLOZ game.
This game is not for me.
@GameOtaku "Metroid Prime" refers first and foremost to a story element, not a gameplay style. It continues the story beyond "Metroid Prime 3," so in that regard it has just as much a right to the name as any of the others. Now if you want to complain that it shouldn't be called "Metroid Prime" because the actual Metroid Prime the sub-series is named for is already dead by the events of this game, then you have a point...
Well, IGN gave it a 5.9 mainly due to having lousy basic gameplay, which I noticed Goncalo barely touched on in this review, so that has me kind of worried. I will say though that while I don't like Blast Ball itself, I love the control scheme, so that's a plus for Federation Force.
@Diortem go back to wiiudaily you pleb. Or have you been banned again? ha ha ha ha
@Diortem take it easy, man. It's just video games
@MrSeitaro It still takes place in the same universe and involves the titular creatures, so what else are they supposed to call it? It's no different than using the Kirby and Pokémon brands on their numerous spinoffs that play much differently compared to the main series entries. The only reason "Hyrule Warriors" doesn't include "The Legend of Zelda" in its title is because it's a crossover game and the Dynasty Warriors title convention fit better.
@GameOtaku You know there is single-player, right?
@Gauchorino My pleasure. I just woke up and now have 182 comments to read. I'm expecting death threats.
Screw it, I'll pick this up after work in a few hours.
@NewAdvent You could always use the other control scheme instead. Personally, I think that one (with one analog stick, gyro vertical aiming, and trigger strafeing) is the best way to do a shooter on the 3DS, even better than the stylus aiming in "Kid Icarus: Uprising."
@-DEMISE- - A negative bias is still a bias.
@MajorasLapdog No, you do not need to complete the solo campaign prior to go online, but doing so will give you an incredible edge. Most people will give up the solo campaign about 10 mission in because of the difficulty spike.
@Retron Yes, but you will have trouble on the latter missions. Still doable.
Honestly it feels that I'm one of the few that keep saying Luigi's Mansion 2 is good but it quickly get boring and very repetitive (and so easy it's a big minus). So after that I'm not giving Next Level Games any credit caus Federation Force feels exactly the same. I'll give it a try but after great discount or better I'll buy a used copy for half the price. Better to spend hard earned cash on DQVII (cause that game totally earned it).
My comment yesterday:
"All I'm buying is a mountain of popcorn for tomorrow's review comments...it's gonna be a bloodbath!
Nintendolife Reviewer: We likey! 8/10
Comments: You're wrong! This ain't Metroid!!! We've waited 6 years etc etc fire Reggie! Weak hardware! I'm allowed an opinion!"
Might change my username to Nostradamus.
Fantastic News! This game got an 8!
@Diortem Er, this game is not a failure. It rated 8. If you check the reviewers credentials, you will see he is very well respected......
Apparently IGN and Gamespot, two multi-format gaming sites, seem to disagree with both Nintendo Life and GoNintendo, two predominantly Nintendo fan sites. I'm seeing a bit of trend possibly developing here.
@Kilroy There is a bit of exploration, a bit of brain teasing, a lot of blasting and despite you not picking up upgrades, you do pick up Mods that allow you do some fancy, interesting combinations. Missions all take place in desginated areas, some surprisingly big and each has a secret mission objective. Since there were very few people online , I spent most of the time playing solo for this review (and a little something extra later) I stand by that statement: There is a lot to do here even alone. In fact, I'm still playing it to get more medals.
Anyone know when the demo becomes available in Europe?
Looks like a fun game to play with my son in local co-op.
@Kirk I'm a freelancer, I'm not being paid by anyone to write this review. It is my honest opinion as a long time "Metroid" fan on a stellar game by Next Level Games for a stellar handheld console.
@CanisWolfred I apologise for the mean subtitle, it was just a tease and also a way to see who read the whole review or just the subtitle. It worked. =)
@Yasume What nonsensical rhetoric. Just because you've got negative feelings about a game doesn't mean everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival was poorly-rated by most every professional game journalism website, including Nintendo Life. Was that a "fanboy review," too?
Like most huge mainstream game journalism websites, IGN and Destructoid are known sycophants to anti-Nintendo sentiment, whose tabloid writers (many who are rarely acquainted with more than a few of Nintendo's games) thrive on creating clickbait articles demonizing Nintendo due to its universally-loved franchises and reputation in historically and continually innovating game genres. I don't think such unanimously biased writing always existed among these corporatist companies until "graphics whores" began to become very vocal, and such companies have continually detriorated in impartial writing ever sense (Gamespot being one of the worst and oldest offenders of them all). Nintendo Life and other such small game journalism websites, although imperfect, are the last strongholds for any sort of objectivism in game journalism.
But anyway, stick to the content of the review, not to its rating. Its author here went quite in-depth into different aspects of the game, rather than just giving a quick and ambiguous look into them. If you disagree with his perspective on any of these matters, that's perfectly fine, and you may actually have more informed perspectives on any of these than he does. But to smear a review simply because of its source is undeniably wrong and is quite cowardly.
@Kirk Conveniently ignoring sites like Kotaku, Eurogamer, and US Gamer.
@cfgk24 They have no clue who I am. I have no way to prove anyone here I'm unbiased. I came expecting death threats. I am not disappointed and just hope Next Level Games are immune to such incredibly poisonous and uncalled for hate for this game.
@AlexOlney Or, I've only seen four reviews so far and that was the potential trend I saw, which is all I stated.
Edit: Let me go to metacritic and see. . . .
Edit 2: Well, it's currently sitting at 64/100 (as I check it), with every review on there being "mixed" - http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/metroid-prime-federation-force
I guess we'll see how it all pans out once more reviews come in.
i've seen someone played the game for hours on twitch earlier today... the game look decent, but the hardcore fans were right to be outraged, i mean this is as much a metroid game than four-swords was a zelda game... it sure has its lore and characters, but this "isn't" a main series title, and i personnaly think this is where and why we (hardcore metroid fans) have a problem with this game, we are WAY overdue for a true Metroid game, that's all, and i will go as far as to say that's the only reason why ppl are mad/sad about this whole situation... if Nintendo would have announced a Real Metroid Prime or a 2d game like AM2R, ppl would not have been that sour about FedForces, they might have been even enthusiastic about it, but unfortunatly that wasn't the case, and now we have this mess of a situation... besides, if i had a bit more money, i would probably pick this one up anyway after what i've seen on stream so far, reminds me of how much fun i had with four -swords even if at first i wasn't interested one bit... ;D
@Shiryu There goes your weekend! I hope they will not affect your resilience nor constrain your conscience.
@Shiryu the subtitle does leave a sting but it's also rather funny; you just know people are going to get furious with you even though it's obviously tongue in cheek.
Your review reads almost exactly like the GameXplain review which is promising. Will check out the game for sure. (I also liked Hunters and Other M so I'm immune to negative opinions!)
@Kirk Metacritic has become a poison infested place too.
Just check out NMS and the idioic hate it gets, full of 0 scores.
The problem With sites like Metacritic is that you don't actually have to own the game to review it.
So if you see scores of 0 from People, I can pretty much guarantee you none of them own the game and are just spewing hate and jump on the hate Train, because that is the New cool today!
Wait, how comes this slow, plodding game gets an 8 whilst Mario and Sonic gets a scathing 5/10? I just don't get it. Beach Volleyball had a lot of depth.
@The_Dude_Abides How about their review of Amiibo Festival? Would you rather they review games to meet a quota of views, like most mainstream game news sites? By the way, some of these reviewers on NL are indeed unpaid for their writing, such as the author of this review.
@huxxny It seems to me that Nintendo has this terrible habit of late, where it takes random game ideas that often don't really feel very much like they belong in a particular series (strange spin-offs basically), and then it forces some of the characters and lore from that franchise into the game to make it a new entry in the series. I really don't like that most of the time, unless it's done exceptionally well and actually adds to the franchise rather than detract from it. Bobble-head characters and strange gun football in the Metroid universe just doesn't add to the franchise for me (and I know there's other modes and stuff in the game, but still). Although, I think the gun football could still be fun, but I simply can't enjoy stupid bobble-head characters in a Metroid game, unless it were clearly trying to be some kind of kiddie and silly take on things just for fun (like a bonus giant-head mode after you beat the level in the best time or something).
Yeeeaahh, no, don't buy it. This isn't Metroid. It should've been a new IP.
@memoryman3 Because clickbait!
What i really want to know is does the full game let you host private online sessions with your friends in Campaign mode and Blast Ball? If it does not, then no sale i'm afraid.
@Kirk Yep IGN always gives Nintendo games very fair review. I mean good god did you not see the amount of Water in Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire. I mean thats almost as bad as the amount of land in Wind Waker
@Damo @AlexOlney
I wouldn't even bother with those disgusting insinuations in your place.
Everyone has a bias in some way. But I guess it just is that way that if you say something is good, you're biased. But if you say something is bad, you're speaking "the truth". No matter that both opinions are biased all the same.
And, um, you people do know that Federation Force is a spin-off? Have you ever looked at Mario Kart and thought "Oh, but this isn't a main series game and has different mechanics therefore it should be called something else"?
@Diortem
If You are reading this,know, that U are a psycho.
Get back to Your sandbox...
The words "Samus who?" would be in better taste outside of, you know, the franchise's 30th anniversary, but you do you.
@PanzerNomad nothing, except if you were waiting/craving for a metroid "style" of game for so long and all you got is a funny-looking spin-off... imagine that for any other franchise like mario or zelda, hardcore fans would probably react the same way if not even worst... the fact that the game seems ok is not the issue, its the lack of actual Metroid game that is this real problem for the hardcore fans
@PanzerNomad "Then what's wrong with a spin- off game set in the Metroid universe?" Absolutely nothing, I believe it's called being self-entitled?
@briwipdx I may just be one of the haters willing to give it a try. If the reviews are good, then I'll give it a shot. But I still hate the fact that it's a Metroid game.
@Rin-go Exactly.
@AlexSora89 The words "Samus who" are there because this is a good game, even without Samus. It's a light-hearted comment, obviously.
I thought the meaning would be clear, but there you go.
I still don't see the point. There are PLENTY of really good co-op FPS games out there. Games that look significantly better, sound significantly better (by virute of being on a more substantial system) and games that control better - at least if one is neither much a fan of the gyro or the c-stick, which in my book can't replace neither a mouse, a wii-mote or simply a proper second analogue stick.
To me visuals, sound and esp. controls, tight and precise, matter a great deal in this kind of experiences. Co-op FPS games are not FE or SMT after all ...
Having said that, the game seems to be undeserving of all the hate it gets, and they seem to have done pretty much the best they could, within the confines of the chosen system and genre. Nintendo on the other hand, well deserves the blowback on this - as I said, unlike the game itself and the devs.
@Ralek85 Ofcourse their are better FPS. But as of now this is the best 3ds FPS to date. Right behind Code Name: STEAM.
I think it's fairly simple. The game has had a ton of controversy because Metroid fans wanted a proper new entry in the series with Samus. Nintendo gave us this instead, which looks playable enough, yeah. But spin offs should come following big new entries, or at least be known as a precursor to a big new entry in the series.
I think that FF has received a lot of overkill hate. But that reaction exists for a reason.
I don't think I'll pick this up, mainly because it seems so reliant on co-op gameplay, rather than an epic single player experience. Kind of reminds me of MP: Hunters. Good, but ultimately forgettable.
Glad to see this do well.
@The_Dude_Abides You know, reviews are subjective opinions. They're not meant to be objective.
Ok people, enough with the comments towards Dio or whatever the name is, he has been banned (all of his accounts) and can't respond. Just, move on.
@PanzerNomad This is a dumb question. I'm a Star Wars fan, but I dont like the prequels. Unless you're a mindless fanboy, you don't HAVE to like every single thing in a franchise.
This comment section is gold.
By the way, I've never heard of this Gonçalo Lopes. Is this a pseudonym, like Alan Smithee? Can't blame the reviewer.
@OorWullie Gosh, I hope that's the case SOOO BAD!!!
Meh, already have a bunch of Metroid games to play (including Metroid 2 which is underrated) so I might pick this up later.
@MitchVogel Oh yeah, I forgot they made Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon! I'm so glad it's becoming a Nintendo Select! 😃
A score above score average. In my opinion, Luigi's Mansion 2 is one of the best 3DS games BUT Federation Force is far from being as good. Same developer doesn't mean same results. The game concept itself limits the whole development and the ending product. More 7s than 8s everywhere else. If Luigi's Mansion 2 is 9/10 Federation Force should be 7/10 or less.
Then again, Damien gave to the worst 2D Mario game (New Super Mario Bros. 2) 9/10 ouchhhh and Star Fox Zero 8/10. That's why Nintendo Life's reviews can't be taken seriously.
@davidevoid I have yet to check out other reviews, I have been pretty much on my own little world for this past week.
@VanillaLake But Damien had nothing to do with this review, it was written by yours truly!
@whodatninja ... you don't hang around the Retro section much, do you?
@MitchVogel Wait... I was sure that Luigi Mansion 2 is regarded as one of the better games for 3DS? From your comment it sounds like people disliked it
@Shiryu I know, this one was written by somebody else, that's why my second comment is a separate reflection about two crazy reviews by Damien (NSMB2 and Star Fox Zero) and Nintendo Life reviews in general which I can't take seriously.
@VanillaLake Gotcha! The "somebody else" was me btw.
@Shiryu Nice to meet you, Gonçalo.
"We look forward to seeing what the future of this particular spin off holds, because as it stands right now Federation Force is an impressive and solid foundation; it's more than able to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans until the inevitable return of Samus Aran".
I bet lots of fans out there are going to disagree with you.
I'll try the game once I borrow it from my bud. If it's any good then I'll buy myself a copy but if I don't like it then that's that. Anyways Destructoid gave it a 5.5/10 so I still had my doubt.
Relax guys! B-K: Nuts & Bolts is a good game! If you leave out B-K part out of it. I guess it's same here: good game but weak Metroid game? Hm?
@VanillaLake As long as those same fans give the game a honest chance, I'm ok with that.
So I want to play this game, but I'm not sure I know anyone who owns a 3DS. Hmm.
God Lord this is why I hardly read comments... I was gonna say it's cool that it got a positive review. It's just a shame that unfortunately most people will be stubborn and stick to the hate train. I for one am very interested in trying it out.
I've said it before I hope the morons are happy the day their stupidity finally buries Nintendo as a gaming company. I don't remember the Genesis/Nintendo debates at school being this ridiculous...
@Jeronan Yeah, don't take what the actual gamers are saying seriously. They're just venting their emotions half the time. I'm talking about the professional videogame journalists.
That awkward moment when the comment section is more entertaining than the game itself.... haha I kid, I kid, seems like it may be worth checking out after all!
Can't wait to pick up my copy looks awesome and 3DS really needed a title like this , thanks for the review I thought it looked fun from the first reveal.
Regardless of the reviews, I was gonna buy this today to support the franchise and show Nintendo that we want more Metroid. Luckily, the reviews aren't too bad overall!
@Diortem I think your reaction here makes you the one who is 'pathetic'.
Maybe I missed it in all the hate people were giving this game, but I didn't realize it was made by Next Level. I was already interested, and that just makes me more so. I'm glad to see this game is good, even if it doesn't star Samus (getting a new perspective on an existing world is one reason I thought this game looked interesting).
@VanillaLake
Is giving a 7/10 game an 8/10 really such a stretch? It seems to me that anything within 1 point of the norm doesn't necessarily reflect bias in either direction. That actually applies to Star Fox and NSMB2 too.
@The_Dude_Abides Stop the presses! 'Shock, horror: NintendoLife contributors outed as Nintendo fans by wily commentor.'
Just kidding with you ☺️. In all seriousness though, surely all reviews are opinions, inherently subjective?
@Razzmatazz So if a game is good and people say it's good it's fine. Actually, when I say that a Nintendo game is good you don't say nothing at all and ignore me. If a game is presumably not good and people say it's not good and other reviews say it's not good you call it hate and you call them "morons". Incongruity. Blind fanboyism.
@TrueWiiMaster I also read it:
"We look forward to seeing what the future of this particular spin off holds, because as it stands right now Federation Force is an impressive and solid foundation; it's more than able to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans until the inevitable return of Samus Aran".
I can't wait to see what Metroid fans say about that. Actually, I'm a Metroid Prime fan, but Nintendo is not releasing the game here until September! Hopefully there's a demo coming.
EDIT: Oh, yes, I played that "Ball demo" and is absolutely bland.
@Shiryu Your job is to review a game on it's merits, not defend a developer. I love Next Level Games and they've done fantastic work, but this review reads like an attempt to prop them up even when their work is bland. You even praised the music, which is nothing but trite garbage and I don't need to have played the full game to recognise that aspect.
I never thought this game would be awful because NLG make decent games, but in terms of visual design and music, it's as generic as you can get. Personally, in terms of gameplay I can't get over how slow the mechs are, either. It also seems like the game relies a lot on enemy hordes and bullet sponge bosses, but that's me going off footage.
@VanillaLake Download the Blast Ball game from the eShop, it's basically a demo for this and includes a training mission for the main game.
There are a lot of people saying things like, "DON'T HATE THE GAME BEFORE YOU'VE EVEN PLAYED IT," etc. etc. And there's a lot of merit to what they're saying. Because, they're right--In a sense, I think there are a lot of times where you really can't truly judge a game unless you've played it first.
That being said, what I think those people fail to realize in this case is that this game should have never been a Metroid game. Even if it is a halfway decent co-op shooter (and I'm sure it is), it should had never borne the Metroid name. No Metroid fan wanted this, and if you're honest with yourself you'll realize that all this was, was an attempt to make a new IP sell better by slapping "Metroid" on the front. Which is, quite frankly, super lame on Nintendo's part.
So it's not so much about trying to paint this game as "THE WORST OF ALL TIME" or some nonsense. It's that this is an irreverent and cheap use of a legendary franchise. No one asked for Baby's First Metroid: Chibi-Force.
@Aurelis I did it, played it and erased it. I hoped the whole game was at another level but it seems it's not. I agree with your comment, I think the same about this review.
I'll pass still.
@naut
"No Metroid fan wanted this"
So either I'm not a Metroid fan, or I didn't want this... nope neither of those things ring true. I wanted a spin off Metroid game featuring Federation soldiers (before FF was announced), it's not an exact match for what I had in mind, but I can live with that.
No voice chat, what year is this? Heroes of Ruin developers were able to get it done.
If the game has good sales Nintendo will see this sort of thing as the future of Metroid, if it has bad sales Nintendo will probably not touch Metroid again in ten years. This can only go well
@naut This is a fair point and I think people are justified in their hate (to a degree). Slapping the Metroid name on this is largely cynical and pointless. Complaining about this is the same as complaining about Star Fox Adventures, which is perfectly reasonable if you ask me. Personally I see a lot of similarities between both ventures.
I'm gonna open a can of worms here and say... whatever you think about the game itself, at least Other M was unashamedly a Metroid game, even if it got a lot of what it should be wrong, it was most definitely trying to be a Metroid game. This is trying to be something else, but with Metroid Prime trappings on top.
That said the music in that game sucked too. When Sonic 2006 happened, at least Sonic fans got a good soundtrack out of it, ugh.
@Diortem you rly need to chill bro
@Tlink7 If all this cheap spin-offs like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival and Federation Force are successful then Nintendo is going to focus on cheap spin-offs, first on NX and, when they realise that gamers don't want these kind of games on dedicated gaming hardware, Nintendo will be developing these bland games for mobile phones exclusively.
@Tlink7 I'm not sure Nintendo is THAT out of touch that they'd base the future of the franchise on the sales of a multiplayer spin off. Besides, with the reception this game got, they know hardcore Metroid fans exist. The anger for this game wouldn't exist if nobody cared about the series.
@VanillaLake No, no, no! Please don't believe the training mission is any example of the surprises awaiting you on the three planets!
@Shiryu Then Nintendo really should release a final demo.
@Aurelis #267 Intelligent reflection that applies to Star Fox Zero as well.
Never, ever fall for the "if they don't buy this game that you don't really like the look of then we'll stop making games in X franchise" line that people and sometimes publishers pull. It's a lie and always has been. If developers and publishers don't understand that a game sells badly because it's not what the fans want, then why would you even want their next game?
Sticker Star sold pretty well. Then we got Colour Splash! Yay?
@Aurelis Thank you for your input. I did not write this review to defend NLG or Nintendo, and despite not getting paid at all to do so, my "job" is to provide a opinion on a video game and explain why It's worthy of your time or not. I was unsure people would actually read anything except the title and conclusion but I hope that it is enough for people to pick the game up and give it a chance and form their own opinion.
@Diortem Of course. They are appeasing the apologetic fans. Can't bite the hand that feeds either.
It's sad.
@VanillaLake Haha, unfortunately I actually enjoyed Star Fox Zero a lot. Again, I give it a lot of credit for actually BEING a Star Fox game. A proper Star Fox game. It's flawed, sure, and obviously the controls are not to everyone's liking (I found they took a bit of getting used to then they became a lot of fun, personally), but it IS a Star Fox game. Adventures was something else with Star Fox slapped on it.
I guess I'm much more forgiving with games that have ambitions to please fans, even if they fail at it.
@VanillaLake
You might not agree with him, but I don't think that's an unfair opinion. Clearly it scratched the Metroid itch for him, and he thinks it could do the same for others if they gave it a chance. And let's not forget that, according to most reviewers, this is a good game (7/10 is good). It's not the big console Metroid Prime 4 fans wanted, but it's a good FPS in the Metroid universe.
@naut
Wouldn't that apply to all of the many, many spin-offs Nintendo has made over the years? Nobody was asking for Mario RPG before it released, for example, and it has nothing in common with previous Mario games except the characters.
@Shiryu Fair enough, just was replying to a previous comment you made where you seemed upset that NLG were getting a bad rap. No, people dislike the game's concept and the decisions that went behind it, nobody's really blaming NLG for what this game is.
"Despite the undue hate" Come again ?
I slowly but surely get the feeling that people have no freakin clue what the word "hate" actually means.
It seems that having a preference, a disagreeing opinion and god forbid a different taste is now a criminal offense -.-
@JaxonH What?
Yes. People genuinely can't have different opinions.
@Einherjar
"Hate: intense or passionate dislike"
You really think that isn't a fitting description of how some people responded to this game?
@Aurelis We live in strange times where people form opinions based in first impressions or worse, hear say. I too love "Star Fox Zero".
@shaneoh "...it's not an exact match for what I had in mind, but I can live with that."
That's really the key phrase right there. If you like the game, that's great. But I think if you're really honest with yourself, you know that a game about the Federation could have been something much, much more than this.
@Aurelis I'm not a huge Other M fan, but it's most certainly a Metroid game. A weak Metroid game, with an unfortunate portrayal of Samus, but a Metroid game nonetheless with a few redeeming qualities.
@TrueWiiMaster Comparing Mario and Metroid isn't really fair lol. Mario is a goofy, cartoon-esque series that can be whatever you want it to be without sacrificing any kind of image or lore. Mario is great whether he's fighting 1000-year-old demons or playing golf.
Metroid is sort of this "holy grail" series made up of a handful of legendary titles. Even Mario has his bombs. Every Metroid game ever made (except maybe Other M) has been immaculate and has set a very high standard. They've also laid down a very serious and sensitive lore and image for the series.
Sorry, taking a series like that and suddenly making it a cartoon-y, bland, co-op game on a whim is a slap in the face no matter how you look at it.
You can't beat people saying they hate something they've never played for the 1000th time. Like we never heard them the first time. Or the 250th time. Great stuff.
@Shiryu I don't know who are you talking about now, but I don't have a final opinion about the whole game yet. Watching videos and gameplay helps to have an opinion though, specially when you have a lot of gaming experience like I do.
@Aurelis Ha ha! Then I should have mentioned Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival!
I love Star Fox Adventures.
I am sure this review will be as divisive as the game itself. The people who were cautiously holding out hope for a good game will be thrilled and their faith was not misplaced. The people who have been hating on it all along were hoping that game would get terrible reviews and then flop at retail. Thus, any good review will anger them. I understand where they are coming from. They are worried that if Federation Force does well then Nintendo will get the message that Metroid fans like this direction.
The only thing I will add is that believe it or not, some people really hated Metroid Prime when it was announced because they wanted Metroid to remain a 2D franchise. They were worried that the success of Prime would kill the 2D games. There are still lots of people who refuse to play any 3D Metroid game. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
@Diortem Didn't you used to be on WiiUdaily? That website died hard, but I remember visiting it just to read your comments. Ah, Diortem... (pines with a girl-crush). (-. - )
btw, I just skimmed the article, so correct me if I'm wrong, but did NL mention a story mode? What's the story? As fun as a multiplayer Metroid game is, if there's no Metroid-worthy story than I'm not really interested in it.
So glad I pre-ordered this. I can't wait to play it!
@TrueWiiMaster That's why I want to know what other Metroid fans say about the game. Anyway, like I just said, you don't always need to play the whole game to have an opinion, there are gameplay videos, etc. And that demo. The consequence is that I don't agree with Gonçalo's review, no matter how nice the developers are. Love Luigi's Mansion 2 plus love Metroid Prime doesn't equal to love Metroid Prime Federation Force. Or it shouldn't.
@VanillaLake I was urging you not to judge this whole package based on the tutorial mission in the free demo! Please don't!
@Einherjar ""Despite the undue hate" Come again ?
I slowly but surely get the feeling that people have no freaking clue what the word "hate" actually means.
It seems that having a preference, a disagreeing opinion and god forbid a different taste is now a criminal offense -.-"
Best comment on the thread.
@Shiryu I won't but I won't buy the game either. I don't want to give Nintendo the "I like this Metroid game" message when it's false.
And there you are, amazing yet ignored games without a name.
@VanillaLake Indeed, people should vote with their money, not Internet hate. I will be picking this up day one in Europe.
...glad it reviewed well, can't wait to check it out!...
Although....about the game...♫♪
"I wish I was a little bit taller
I wish I was a ballerI wish I had a girl named Samus, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
And a six four Impala" . . .
Woo the internet is gonna be mad this got a good score.
@TrueWiiMaster " 'Hate: intense or passionate dislike' You really think that isn't a fitting description of how some people responded to this game?"
Please tell who.
And tell me what you think about comment #247:
"God Lord this is why I hardly read comments... I was gonna say it's cool that it got a positive review. It's just a shame that unfortunately most people will be stubborn and stick to the hate train. I for one am very interested in trying it out.
I've said it before I hope the morons are happy the day their stupidity finally buries Nintendo as a gaming company. I don't remember the Genesis/Nintendo debates at school being this ridiculous..."
Isn't that the most hateful comment aimed at people that have a different opinion?
@RatKing64 I know some people didn't like Metroid Prime at first glance because it was not 2D, but you can't be serious comparing Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime Federation Force. When people played Metroid Prime they liked it unless they hated 3D games, while there are many mixed impressions and reviews about Federation Force.
To people saying it's "good" because it's 69% this far, we all know that 69% does not equal to a good game nowadays. Very few games are below 50%, they have to be extremely bad to have a score average below 50% even though 50% is supposedly the middle point. This is not the school.
It may or may not be a decent spin-off, but I've seen enough footage to know that nothing about this is going to satisfy hardcore Metroid fans, anymore than Tri Force Heroes would satisfy hardcore Zelda fans.
Also, folks, while I won't say this is a bad game, keep in mind Paper Mario: Sticker Star also got an 8 from NL. Just... keep that in mind.
I will never touch this game, but I certainly hope anybody who gets it enjoys it.
@Shiryu It really worries me that a Nintendo Life reviewer like yourself equals opinions with hate, but it also makes me understand how biased your review is. People have the right to say that they don't like the game concept, the ending result or your review on the forums and comments threads. You can't disapprove that and if you do, you shouldn't publicly say it.
wow. I wonder if Nintendo ever reads comments on reviews for their games?
Okay, so it seems like the reviews are a bit mixed with this one. Also, about the argument going on here: if you're excited about the game, good for you! I hope you enjoy it! You're allowed to like it! Just as much as other people are allowed to dislike it! I've already stated in a previous article all the reasons why I feel some of the disdain for this game is understandable, so I'm not gonna post it again.
@MarcelRguez Yes, man. Funny that the words "haters" and "morons" come first.
@naut
That's true, but they do have one thing in common, and that's an engaging world (though engaging in different ways, obviously). Mario spin-offs work so well partially because the world of Mario is charming and fun to play in. Likewise, the world of Metroid is deep and interesting. It's not suited to goofy/party games like the Mario world, but it is well-suited to exploration, even if Samus isn't the explorer, and even if the style is changed. From the beginning, what interested me most about this game was the new side of the Metroid world it would show. I'm not much of a Metroid fan myself (not much a fan of shooters in general), but I love the world of Metroid, and want to see more of it.
@VanillaLake
I agree, to an extent, that you don't need to play a whole game to have an opinion on it. I often watch videos to see if a game looks like something I'd want to play, or play demos if they're available. That's what they're there for. Even so, that's a very shallow and incomplete opinion, and has very little weight compared to one from someone who has played the whole game. If you play a demo and say the game is shallow, but someone who completed the game says it gets much better later on, you can't refute them because you've only played the demo. You cannot have an opinion about what you have not played. Also, your claim that the reviewer was affected by his love for the developer doesn't hold up well, considering his review is in line with what other critics are saying. Giving a game most critics think is a 7/10 an 8/10 does not show any particular bias. He just liked it a little more than average, just as others liked it a little less.
In response to your second reply, I have to assume you're feigning ignorance (I don't mean that as an insult). Surely you've seen the many Metroid fans bashing the game before release? The videos that are uploaded and immediately get tons of angry comments and dislikes? The petition going around to cancel the game based on the trailer? Is that not "passionate dislike"?
A commenter that's mad at the people hating the game without playing it is not relevant to the hate people have for this game, nor is it necessarily hateful to say you think it's stupid or moronic to hate a game you've never played. If someone told you they never played Metroid Prime, but they hated it, wouldn't you think that was stupid? Would that make you hateful?
Seems like it might be worth the full MSRP of $40, which is a relief. The trailers didn't seem to indicate much depth, so I'm glad to hear otherwise!
@VanillaLake ...? From where did you assume I consider other people feedback as hate? I don't recall I ever wrote that anywhere, but this is the Internet and we all know the written word is subject to incorrect interpretation as such let me make it perfectly clear: I respect each and everyone's opinion as I hope people respect mine. It never happened before, but I am a big optimistic idealist dreamer like that.
Looks good. The art style doesn't bother me; it kinda gives me a jet force Gemini vibe.
My only concern is how co-op matching works amongst strangers. I mean, is it possible for all 4 to be medics? Or does it consiously try to form balanced teams? Although there are no classes, maybe they should allow to pick from a list preferences - like 'medic', 'gunner', 'heavy artillery'
8/10 much better than I was expecting
@TrueWiiMaster You essentially say yourself that the heart of Metroid is the exploration. This game doesn't revolve around exploration in the slightest. It's a mission-based co-op shooter. Even Hunters had some openness to it.
Well, that's a glowing review, I'd say. Huh.
I may have to reconsider my stance on this game.
Hmm. We'll see what happens.
Just short of a 70 on metascore
@TrueWiiMaster Funny how you ignore parts of my comments and manipulate the others while sounding arrogant. This is my last reply to you because it is pointless if you ignore the most important parts of mine.
Just a few more things where you're wrong:
"Even so, that's a very shallow and incomplete opinion, and has very little weight compared to one from someone who has played the whole game".
Not necessarily, it depends on how genuine the impressions are. And I haven't said what my opinion about the whole game is yet anyway. I don't care if the reviewer has played the whole game if the review itself is not really professional (that is, relatively objective, real, genuine, etc.). And read my comment about scores again (#295), please, you missed the whole point about that.
@TrueWiiMaster "Also, your claim that the reviewer was affected by his love for the developer doesn't hold up well".
Again, you're wrong. And I was not the first person in here to say so (three people did that before me). Even the review itself admits it.
@Shiryu Comment #291.
@Shiryu I've seen you around, but I didn't know your real name.
@Kirk Yes, just check here to see the difference between Nintendo sites and others when reviewing the game:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/metroid-prime-federation-force/critic-reviews
I think there's three problems people have had with this game leading up to launch:
1. The super-deformed art style, which we've never seen in a Metroid game before.
2. The gameplay being more a team-based shooter as opposed to the usual Metroid adventure-exploration type game.
3. The player characters aren't Samus.
If the game had had one of those things, but kept the rest of the Metroid Prime formula the same, people probably would've been more excited and less upset. But because it had all three, the game pretty much doesn't resemble Metroid at all.
But then again, if the game is fun, who cares?
Alright alright. They did a good job on this.
But it probably still isn't for me.
@AlexOlney In all honesty, Eurogamer is the most biased gaming site ever (when reviewing a game) and, at the same time, has the best articles. You can absolutely hate or love a game and write whatever you want about whatever game in there and it's perfectly fine, no one would be surprised. I believe that's why they removed the numerical scores.
Looks sweet, but Fall 2016 looks like it's going to be a pretty stacked deck for games, so I'm not sure I'll have the time when I've already committed to Pokemon and possibly Magical World in the event that Etrian V is 2017. Both of those are 100+ hour games for me.
The multiplayer sure does look fun though! And everyone I live with has a 3DS...
@Blastcorp64 There are no classes per say and yes, it is possible everyone goes full of Repair Kits and play mechanic, but if you do and stumble upon a boss battle with low ordinance, you will look really silly shooting those repair capsules at the bad guys.
@VanillaLake Ah I see! No, again this was a misunderstanding, I was not referring to an y of your comments, I was referring to people signing petitions for the game to be cancelled before even playing it. There has to be some sort of common sense about these matters and I have seen very little of it from the masses ever since the game was introduced.
@whodatninja Because of being such a common name in Portugal, I go by Shiryu most of the time.
@VanillaLake Please don't make this comment section end like the Star Fox Zero one. Nobody is manipulating nobody.
There are people who will like this game and people who will not like. Here the reviewer likes it. End of the debate.
There is no "objectively good" or "objectively bad", notes and reviews don't mean anything. It just depends on everyone's tastes.
@GeminiSaint Great! All I ask, really.
@Shiryu OK, I see. Even though I did not sign that petition I believe that its goal was to tell Nintendo that they cared about Metroid but they wanted a real Metroid game and not what @EXP has perfectly defined as a non-Metroid game with a Metroid skin (#316). According to all these fans, this is not a Metroid game but uses the Metroid Prime brand like @MrSeitaro and @naut have already explained.
I don't watch hating videos, I watch gameplay videos or funny videos like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IceMIN7wzAk
By the way, how do you assess the single player content of the game?
@merrygorndoflife I'm being respectful, dude.
@VanillaLake Ah good ol' epic movie voice guy at Honest Trailers.
I spent the last week playing as both Solo and online. I sadly have no one to play locally until this gets released in Europe. I based my review on the content offered in this package enve if you play alone. It is not the whole experience, but it offer plenty for both solo and squad players.
@naut
I didn't mean just exploring a big, open world. I meant going to new areas, finding new enemies, seeing new sights, getting more background, etc. You might not explore the whole world at once in this particular game, but you still explore the world of Metroid. That's as opposed to many Mario spin-offs like Mario Kart or Mario sports games, which have no exploration or expansion of the world at all.
@VanillaLake
I know you said you won't respond to me anymore, but what did I ignore or manipulate? I thought I covered everything pretty well. The only reason I didn't copy/paste quotes from you was the already lengthy size of my comment. If you added anything in an edit, I haven't refreshed the page, so I didn't see it.
Even with bias, the opinion of someone who played the game will always hold more weight than the opinion of someone who didn't. The only time that would prove untrue would be if the person who played the game was lying about their experience, and therefore not giving their real opinion.
Which comment about scores?
It doesn't matter if multiple people make an accusation if the accusation is not true. Where in the review does he say that? Are you referring to when he says you'd expect them to make a beautiful game, because their last game was beautiful?
@TrueWiiMaster #295 https://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/3ds/metroid_prime_federation_force#comment3612599
@udickridesony LOL Is that to people criticising "her" last game or is that her attitude towards "her" latest game?
...or because she was excluded from "her" game?
@IceClimbers That is why I jumped ship over here! I may get into a heated discussion every now and again here, but N-life is rad!
Also cannot wait to play this! My dreams of being a Fed in the Metroid universe shall soon start!
I don't think I honestly thought this will end up being a bad game, but it's just bad timing. A mission based shooter, no matter how good it is, shouldn't be an anniversary game to a franchise designed to laugh at linearity.
Maybe I'll get this, maybe not. Either way I'm still waiting for Prime 4.
@DarkVortex Poor @Diortem, his first post was perfectly valid, I don't know what happened after that.
@BiasedSonyFan My point is that Metroid Prime 1, 2 and 3 were universally praised while Metroid Prime Federation Force has mixed reviews (69% at the moment).
@BiasedSonyFan And this is the first time you have asked me, you edited your message to include me but it didn't reach my mailbox because of that.
Look idc.
How's the writing? You know the lore and final story and moral?
Metroid Prime: 97%
Metroid Prime 2: 92%
Metroid Prime 3: 90%
Metroid Prime Federation Force: 69%
@VanillaLake
If 50 is bad (which I agree that it is), and 100 is perfect, wouldn't that still put 70 at good? I generally interpret scores as follows: below 50 is probably broken and/or awful, 50's is bad, 60's is mediocre, 70's are good, 80's are great, 90's are awesome, and 100 is a masterpiece. Of course, personal preference can buck critic opinion altogether. I've enjoyed some 60's more than some 80's.
@Utena-mobile I'm more worried about Next Level games reading these comments. They are a Canadian company and are probably more inclined to read them. Hope they do not get too discouraged as their takes on Punch-Out and Luigi's Mansion are fantastic!
Also sick new avi! (Gundam Wing right?)
@Shiryu Don't explain yourself to Kirk. He just enjoys being abrasive. Your review explains itself, and is very well written.
@BiasedSonyFan It's not fair to say that "Metacritic pans" because it is just a compilation of websites reviews including Nintendo Life. What do you mean by panned? Say a score range so I can tell you.
@-DEMISE- Thank you. I knew what I was getting into when asked if I wanted to review these. I don't mind answering people.
@TrueWiiMaster Actually, in my comment #295 I was saying that gaming scores are higher than what you would get at school. 50% is okay at school (enough to pass) but 50% is a bad score for gaming sites. Therefore, 69% is not a great score for a game, but it would be a great score to get at university.
@BiasedSonyFan Maiden of Black Water (I believe it is underrated though).
@TrueWiiMaster «Even with bias, the opinion of someone who played the game will always hold more weight than the opinion of someone who didn't.» So if i buy FF and i ask my father to play it while i watch, do you honestly believe that his opinion on the game is more valid than mines, even tho i've been playing games for 30y and my father barely ever plays VG?!
Now i'm not gonna invalidate all the points that you are trying to make, but you sounds rather uninform, like when you confound the action of exploring the metroid universe and the type of game based on exploration that metroid is,... anyway, i'm just saying... i just hope i didn't offend you but what you said so far and how you said it just just make me feel like you don't know much about metroid, so yeah, i had to say something, i'm sorry...
@Wexter If Next Level Games is reading this, I should say for the 354th time that I love Luigi's Mansion 2. Actually, I think it's better than Luigi's Mansion, but I miss the second analogue stick, it should be optional for Circle Pad Pro/New 3DS.
@Shiryu that is what I fear. The game has no way of discriminating between player preferences? Or, I guess you guys all load out together and can see who is equipping what before mission start? So you have a sense who the medic guy will be or who's packing the rocket launcher and you can adjust your load out accordingly?
Thanks for the reply, btw
Wow, so much comments already. Just go play that new Metroid 2 remake that came out.
@huxxny Thanks for your comment, please don't be shy!
@VanillaLake @Kirk And of course it's you two guys making everyone's day in the comments again. You're a couple of real winners. And hey, your theory about "Nintendo sites" being biased is rock solid, as long as you ignore the fact that the lowest score on metacritic by a wide margin is from a place called "Nintendo Enthusiast". Anyway, keep up the good work. You guys will eventually kill off all the joy in this place if you just keep working at it!
@-DEMISE- It's you again. I was hoping you let me be this time.
Anyways, I hope Next Level Games' next project has a less negative reveal than this title had last year.
@TrueWiiMaster Not really. I don't really call linear, individual missions "exploration." This game really has almost nothing from Metroid's core at all.
@VanillaLake And I was hoping you'd have found something better to do than go out of your way to suck the life out of this place, but here we are.
@Blastcorp64 Yes, you can check out the other team-mates load out and there are default phrases you can shout like "I am loading up Super Missiles" . Once you start unlocking Mods and all three Mod slots there are a lot of interesting DIY classes beyond medic/mehcanic. "Area Denial" is a personal favourite: Load up with Mines, Force Fields and Decoys. Great for missions where you need to make a stand or defend objectives.
@Luffymcduck Please be "Mario Strikers"! Please, pls, pls!
@-DEMISE- Just to let you know, I reported your last post for being disrespectful and flaming.
Oh look, another game I have no interest in getting.
@Damo
I know there was a good intent behind the choice of words, but while Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is a good fit in the yearly-releasing Mario franchise, Federation Force... well, forces the titular force down the throats of fans so desperate to see Samus again that they will buy the game just to keep the Metroid series alive.
@VanillaLake That's not how review scores work. You actually have the whole thing backwards. Where a 59% in school is barely passing and is considered a terrible grade, a 59% review score is considered okay. 65% grade= bad, 65% review score= good. 70% grade= still pretty crappy, 70% review score= pretty good. Get it? People need to stop thinking of reviews as grades, or comparing them to that scale, because they don't work like grades at all and shouldn't be compared to them.
@-DEMISE- i know your name kinda imply it, but trying to make a point by insulting ppl all over the place might not be the most efficient way to go, imho
@VanillaLake there's already so much animosity and misundertanding in this thread, i don't really want to add oil to the fire, but at some point, since its still a place to debate, yeah... i had to intervene and say something...
@VanillaLake bahahaha! Just to let YOU know, I don't care. Here, just for fun I'll report everything you've said here and we'll see if we can annoy the mods so hard that they quit moderating this site. JK, I'm not going to do that because I'm not a child. Don't post comments if you don't want to encounter any criticism.
@huxxny I make plenty of points in valid ways and with valid evidence to support them, but good job picking the one comment out of a hundred that you think fits your argument.
@-DEMISE- you're so full of aggressivity and you lack any sense of respect, its is unfortunatly a waste of time trying to debate with you... pls go spread your negativity elsewhere...
@Damo
Thank you.
I also had my problems with why many, if not most or all, reviews of Wii U games had to have phrases like "failing Wii U" in them, but those insinuations are really unnessasary and disgusting. Things like "I knew you would give it a 10/10". I think there were even insinuations about being paid to review favourably in past comment sections.
Why even come to the site and read the review if you think they're written by Nintendo-corporation-shill-biased-fanboys.
It's easy to slander someone, but where's the proof?
And the insinuations are usually done by people who ridicule Nintendo and the people who dare to like the current Nintendo.
This is not about being unbiased. It's about not catering to the negative bias of these people.
I mean, who would have thought that a site with Nintendo in its title could have a bias towards Nintendo, huh?
I am a Metroid fan though admittedly not a huge one, and while I don't hate MPFF and never wished it didn't exist, it simply does not interest me in the slightest. Maybe it's a fun game, I don't know. I tried the Blast Ball demo and the trial mission in the demo, and found myself incredibly bored after about 10 minutes. The controls just feel too cramped to work well on a handheld. And the whole package feels incredbly generic. I'm not bitter about Samus not being in the game. I just care a game being fun. But to me, from what I've seen and what I've tried in the demo, this game does not seem like it would provide me much fun. I said the exact same thing about TriForce Heroes and I ended up buying that and I was right about that one too. Fun for about 10 minutes. I will pass on this game but I hope it finds an audience.
@Shiryu Portugal? Cool!
@huxxny I love it!
Me: "This is a site specifically for Nintendo fans, go spread your Nintendo-hate and negativity somewhere else."
You: "Your negativity towards people who come to a site specifically for Nintendo fans to spread their Nintendo-hate conflicts with my opinions and personal bias, therefore leave."
Yeah, that's not even remotely hypocritical of you. No aggression coming from you here. Nope.
@Rin-go Thing is, when you post reviews on a website you should expect some people to agree and some people to not agree. You are wrong to think that people who don't agree with Nintendo Life at some points or don't like a particular game don't like Nintendo.
@huxnny Exactly. We should report those flaming and hating comments that are aimed at users.
@whodatninja Currently very, very hot actually. At least the wildfires are under control now.
Hey, for those complaining about "not a real Metroid game", take a look at the post credits scene for Federation Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pb7I82uQjY
@BiasedSonyFan Not just one game, but I don't remember all the scores at the moment. You can ask me about particular games, if you want. I'll say my honest opinion. Yeah, I think Maiden of Black Water is underrated. For instance, Eurogamer's girl said "Avoid (0)" and anyone that likes survival horror knows how ridiculous her review is.
@IceClimbers
Faux on the comments: "Metroid Prime 4: Federation Force 2: Pinball Wizard Sylux"
LOL
@BiasedSonyFan What's your point? You sound too mysterious.
@VanillaLake ... I would buy that.
@Shiryu Yeah, why not?
@BiasedSonyFan So are you saying it deserves a zero (Avoid)? It got some 9s, too. Where are you going with this? I don't get you.
Like Triforce heroes....
@huxxny @VanillaLake @-DEMISE-
Thank you for testing the Report function today.
Can I suggest you re-read the relevant posts in this comments section and ask yourselves if that's how you want the world to know you?
If you are going to use the Report function, please ignore the user you are reporting, otherwise the thread fills up with silliness as above.
Report and ignore
I'm not going to pick this up for the same reason I didn't get Triforce Heros. Squad based games with limited means of communication are a really hard sell for me. I'm glad that the game is being received well.
I was thinking about the potential of how this game could build onto the Metroid universe lore.
I believe that the character design was chosen more for hardware limitations rather than art style.
If this is to get us more familiar with the Federation and the conflicts therein, it could be a great way to lead in to a new Metroid Prime title.
Now for some wishful thinking. Imagine what the mechs would look like on the NX?
I think the characters in Federation Force are average height, roughly 5'8" to 6'0", and the mechs are at least double their height. I'm thinking Samus in a battle with an army of twelve to twenty foot tall mechs fighting around her.
Then again this could all be Nintendo building a new IP.
Last thing, Samus who? Seriously? These Federation fellas will never outshine Samus.
@gcunit In all sincerity though, when someone goes around telling people they're "reporting" them in multiple threads every week, they deserve to be reported themselves and probably banned, because eventually it crosses the line that separates petulant whining and legitimate harassment. I've seen numerous people given the boot by moderators on this site for much less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pb7I82uQjY
GameXplain brought up a good point about this post credits scene and how it could act as a set up for Prime 4
Don't watch if you don't wanna be spoiled
@VanillaLake
I completely missed that. Where I am, a 50 would be a failure in school. Passing starts at 60. 70 is average, 80 is above average, etc.
@huxxny
That's a good point. His opinion would be valid (as in, did he like it or not), but without other games to compare it to, he couldn't really say it was better or worse than other games. For experienced players, a more informed opinion, even second hand, might be better, if only because they could say "it plays like ...".
I didn't mean to conflate exploring the Metroid universe with traditional Metroid exploration. I understand that exploration is a fundamental part of traditional Metroid games, just as platforming is fundamental to traditional Mario games. In both cases, however, the worlds are big enough and interesting enough to do more, to explore other parts or from different angles, and see things you wouldn't usually see.
As an aside, thinking about Mario RPG's and Metroid together kind of made me want a Metroid RPG...
@naut
Please see the above paragraph. I don't think I've been communicating my point very well, so hopefully that clears it up.
i'm sorry, i guess i was out of line to tell someone to stop being disrespectful towards other users... and to answer your question @gcunit, yes...
@TrueWiiMaster i agree, a metroid rpg would be kinda cool, but also, about my analogy earlier, i was mostly thinking about how we learn by "monkeying", thanks to mirror neurons and as such, how simply watching a review or gameplay of a game is in many way similar and almost as efficient as playing it yourself...
@Shiryu thanks again! I think I'll take a chance and pick it up. You'll have to excuse my questions - my only experience with online MP shooters is Splatoon.
The amount of butthurt over a lighthearted "Samus who?" in the subtitle of this review... IS TOO DANG HIGH!
But seriously, it's a Metroid Prime game without Samus that may not be the literal pile of stinking dookie that everyone assumed it would be.
@Blastcorp64 I found some similarities control wise, but is is very much a a more "us versus them" with them being the CPU baddies instead of two human teams fighting it out like Splatoon. I hope the server get more people when it is released in Europe, can't wait to play with other folks.
@GraveLordXD If you look, the person was starting to fight with people, etc etc, if you hate the game then it's up to you.
@gcunit That is what I did, report and ignore. Why you tell that to me? Read my comments again, I did not even talk with him. Please don't allow -Demise- to insult and harass others.
@VanillaLake You really need to get a thicker skin. Campaigning to get people in trouble with moderators for disagreeing with you is not a valid debate tactic.
@BiasedSonyFan What Metacritic reviewers? They don't review games. They just compile reviews made by gaming websites, including Nintendo Life.
@Kirk
Actually looking at those review synopsis, the average review is 70, which is a perfectly solid game. And the only common flaw within is that the single player feels stunted because this is a clearly multiplayer game. Which shouldn't even be a flaw, because Left 4 Dead did the same thing, and nobody complained about that "feature" there.
The worst review on there is basically something written by the comments section of an IGN article from when the game was first shown at E3, and Jose Otero doesn't remember how a Metroid Prime plays, because his complaint to that the main weapon is so weak fails to take into account that the basic weapon is always super weak in Metroid Prime games.
@VanillaLake I think gcunit talks about comment #363. You talked to him when you said "Just to let you know, I reported your last post for being disrespectful and flaming."
@3MonthBeef I was just replying to that one person's claim that "Metroid was never a shooter". But yeah, Metroid has been a shooter, and that person is daft.
@DrRandle That's a good point. Samus' basic weapon has never been powerful.
@BiasedSonyFan Dunno.
@merrygorndoflife Because I don't want to have any words with somebody that is being disrespectful and harassing other users, flaming the thread with negativity and insults, can't deal with opinions that are different from his and manipulate others' comments. @gcunit wants me to do exactly what I did, that's why I don't understand that he puts us all in the same bag when it's obvious that only he was flaming and being disrespectful with the others and also asking for bans to people that have not been disrespectful at all (like myself). I am not going to act like him (and I haven't in spite of his flaming) but I won't accept flaming and hating comments towards any users either. You can't find any comment of mine being disrespectful (and if you do tell me which one) but just have a look at his:
#83, 151, 345, 356, 360, 367, 369, 370, 376, 380, 391, 404.
Everybody has an opinion and I'm perfectly fine with that, just read the thread and see. What shouldn't be tolerated is flaming and hating comments.
Plus, the thread was peaceful until then, except for @Diortem's controversy.
@huxxny It's not out of line to tell people to stop being disrespectful, it's out of line to cherry pick the people you tell to stop being disrespectful based solely on the fact that their opinions are contrary to yours while either ignoring or congratulating people who are disrespectful to others simply because their opinions align with your own.
@VanillaLake I don't think you know what "flaming" means. I think you are also lacking a fully-realized understanding of the word "disrespectful".
@huxxny The same people said the same thing when Metroid Prime came out because it wasn't Super Metroid. "This isn't a metroid game! This isn't what we asked for! What is this FPS crap? Metroid is a 2D platformer!"
Metroid is whatever it wants to be because it's a flexible series.
I'm a fan of Metroid, too. I'm a hardcore Metroid fan. Fusion and Prime rank as two of my favorite games of all time. But Nintendo is a business, and those Prime games and Fusion didn't sell very well at all, especially compared to Mario, Smash, Zelda. So they're trying something new with the games again in hopes it will draw more people in. How? 1. It's a Metroid title, so that is (supposed) to draw people in, because people love Metroid games. 2. Keep the Prime gameplay, because people loved that. 3. Put it on the 3DS because that's the most popular system right now. Putting a Metroid game on the WiiU would be sending it to it's death, and Nintendo recognized that 2+ years ago when they started development on this game. 4. Make it Multi-player, because that draws in more people to the experience. Convincing my hypothetical friend to play Metroid might be a hard sell on it's own merits, if they've never liked/played Prime before, but telling them they can play it WITH me is a big draw to a lot of people, like myself. I look forward to playing this with my husband and friend.
@Kilroy - Yeah, I agree that this could've easily been its own thing, and it probably would've been better for it. Sadly, I also doubt they'd be able to market it that easily, since most FPS players don't pay attention to handhelds. So I know why this had to be a Metroid game...but I'm still not going to accept it. A lack of marketability is not going to make make up for the lack of connected environments and solitary atmosphere, and all the other key ingredients that I've come to expect from a Metroid game.
@Shiryu - That was exactly what I meant by throwing rocks, please don't do that again. The NLife comment sections are obnoxious enough without the reviewers adding to the blatant trolling. All you did was give people more excuses to not read your review - a bait they've clearly taken in bulk, just looking at the last 400 posts.
Granted, it's not the worst case I've seen on this website...but that is not a compliment. Merely an admittance of defeat.
@merrygorndoflife @VanillaLake
@Shiryu Well. Denmark could use some of that heat:) but i would also prefer no wild fires!
@BiasedSonyFan What I can say about that is that I don't agree with some reviews and I do agree with others. I haven't been specially harsh with Metroid Prime Federation Force yet, but do you agree that Metroid Prime Federation Force is worse than the other Metroid Prime games? Do you agree about Metroid Prime Federation Force not being really a Metroid Prime game? What does the universal praise that the Metroid Prime games received even if you don't agree with all reviews? What do the mixed reviews that Metroid Prime Federation Force has received mean?
wow @-DEMISE- chill out dude, i told you that you are disrespectful cuz you are, its the second time i interact with you on this site and twice you just go all ape on me for no reason, at this point idk what's ur problem, i sincerely, i don't want to know... just go bother someone else and try to be constructive and act with some notion of civism for a change...
@BiasedSonyFan Then I can have my own opinion as well.
Can we plz stop fighting, there is no need for it.
@BiasedSonyFan Of course. Have I ever said the contrary?
@huxxny lol yeah okay guy, that'd be great advice if it weren't so hypocritical. Keep in mind that YOU replied to ME. I didn't reply to any of your comments, or call you out specifically to start an argument with you. That's on you. So don't go out of your way to pick a fight with someone and then tell them they need to chill out when they react to you in a perfectly normal manner.
@DrRandle well i don't disgree with anything you just said, and if you read carefully my 1st comment on this tread, i think i sum it up pretty clearly and how i was myself pretty impressed by what i've seen so far of this spin-off title,... i just, like as always, naively try to explain to ppl who don't understand why fans are being upsets that there are ligitimate reasons to be disapointed... its not a matter of bieng right or wrong, others who think and act differently are not crazy or stupid, if only ppl could try to put themselves in their shoes before misjudging them, anyway...
@-DEMISE- you clearly have a problem... and i don't think you realise how out of line you are... pls stop, and take a deep breath
@Yasume who says the people at IGN and Destructoid are impartial? Point being, reviews are always going to be biased in some way or another, it's upto the individual consumer/gamer to decide if it's worth their time.
Frankly, I don't really care how people perceive it, for those who love it great, for those who don't that's fine, I've never cared for the series and this won't change my mind either way, but I think if you do love the series you should probably figure it out for yourself.
@huxxny lol you're seriously cracking me up. You're like a kid who thinks he's tough so he goes around punching other kids, but then he immediately starts crying when he gets punched back and goes running to his mommy to complain about how mean all the other kids are to him. You're right though, I do have a problem, and its name is huxxny. Again, this "argument" started with you calling me out, and it can end with you. You just have to make the choice to stop posting crazy replies to my comments.
@-DEMISE- i mean, i realise how telling you to stop is not helping, but you seems to suffer from some heavy Angry Managment Issues or something, and if NL is ok with letting you bark at everyone like this w/o consequences, well...
@BiasedSonyFan LOL You are taking it out of context. I still think so, not about all of them but of course some of them can't be taken seriously. It doesn't mean that I don't respect others' opinions. I'm just saying that I can't make my purchases based on Nintendo Life reviews and that I don't take every Nintendo Life review seriously. Plenty of people think so, in between. You're making a drama out of it.
@-DEMISE- oh and if all you need to stop is me letting you have the last word, please, go ahead, be my guess as they say, all i ask is that you stop being agressive and negative towards other users just cuz you don't agree with them... i mean if you're not a child, stop acting like one...
@VanillaLake I'm not taking part into the debate of who is good and who is bad. But you said you don't want to have any words with him anymore. Yet you replied to him and said explicitly that you reported him. It was provoking enough to let him start an arguement again, I think.
Star Fox Zero was a decent game that got a lot of backlash and now this. Let's ignore the backlash for a second and consider these are still just slightly above average games for two storied franchises people have been hungry for. Hopefully Nintendo won't ignore these franchises moving forward (despite their inevitable financial flops) and reevaluate what worked best.
@huxxny I'm perfectly calm right now. You know that I'm not angry, you're just saying that so you can convince yourself that you're some kind of martyr. And I think deep down you realize that, and you also know how absolutely backward and insane your comments are becoming, but you're clearly too committed to the line that I'm mean and you're a victim to admit it or to stop yourself from descending deeper into bizarro world, where banality and counter-logical nonsense reign supreme and dictate everything you say.
@3MonthBeef
That isn't what I was talking about. The point of videos and demos is to help people who haven't played the game decide if they want the game or not. I use them all the time myself. I was only saying that someone who has played the game is a more credible source on the game's quality than someone who has not. That's why we have game reviews, in which people who have played the game describe their experience with it, so that people who haven't played it can get a deeper understanding of the game than a brief demo or video provides.
As for that second part, that really depends on the genre. Some games, especially among RPG's, can take hours to get into, and many games get better as you play them (more powers, harder challenges, etc). A few early minutes don't necessarily offer an accurate reflection of how the game will be after a couple hours. Again, that's what you turn to reviewers for. They've seen if it gets better or worse, or just stays the same.
@merrygorndoflife No. I was told by Alex I could correct and warn people (coincidentally, it was this same person) before reporting them if they are being a hater and a flamer. I can also request them to stop. I did exactly that in comment #357: "It's you again. I was hoping you let me be this time" and I confirmed my report in my comment #363 because I got a second nasty answer aimed personally at me. I haven't talked with him at all, I just followed those steps. Read the Community Rules or ask moderators if you want to be sure about what can be done and what can be not.
This is not the first time he does this with me and other people and Nintendo Life should do something about it like they did with Diortem or Vandy.
@BiasedSonyFan You are confused but at this point I think you won't ever know why. I can dislike your opinion and still respect it. That simple. Get it. Because I respect other people's opinions I can have discussions with many people in here and I feel free to express mine. The problem is that you don't seem to understand.
@VanillaLake Oy. You really are a different type of person, aren't you. "This person disagreed with me, therefore they must be bullied by the community and then banned!" -VanillaLake
@VanillaLake Okay then. Thanks for the information.
@BiasedSonyFan No need to be cynical or rude, you don't seem to understand me and I don't seem to understand you, let's just stop it here, will you?
@whodatninja People upset over a "Metroid" video game pales to comparison when your own worries lean toward the fact that your home country has burned more than half the total amount of burned area in the whole of Europe during this Summer.
Josh Thomas (some of you know who he is) temper tantrums over this game on Twitter are hilarious.
@BiasedSonyFan I want to stop it here because we are not reaching a middle point and you don't really want to have any discussion. The Community Rules don't say that I have to agree with all Nintendo Life reviews. You are lying when you're saying I can't have discussions, I have had lots of discussions here without any problem with everybody but just ONE person. I respect the review and I respect Gonçalo, I could even be his friend, who knows, but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with what he writes. We two can't have any discussion because you don't really want to respect my point of view, so let's stop it here.
This game is going to flop harder than magikarp.
I would like to try Federation Force but I guess I'd like to see if it sells first. If it doesn't sell well then I would be worried there won't be anyone to play online with.
@UmbreonsPapa The final boss in Metroid Prime Federation Force is ***************
EDIT: Edited by myself, I thought it was just a Twitter joke. Sorry.
@VanillaLake Spoilers.
@VanillaLake Wait ? Is that real ?
@UmbreonsPapa He's literally a manchild when it comes to Nintendo, and thus, it's no surprise to me at least, that he's having a temper tantrum for all to see. That guy is an attention seeking child that cry's on Twitter when he doesn't get his way, or makes inappropriate videos that disrespect a legendary video game creator. He quite literally is the poster boy of "Nintendo Fans GONE WRONG!"
@BiasedSonyFan Have you made any retraction about your false accusations? I think that sentence is good in its context, it's just a natural reaction to the review, no offence intended. I really didn't overthink my first reaction because I think people like natural reactions anyway. Much worse things have been said.
@merrygorndoflife LOL no!
@Lucina By his Twitter profile picture and description you can tell he is wanting some extra attention.
@VanillaLake I'm confused now. If this is real it should have a spoiler alert or something.
@BiasedSonyFan I only know a handful of scores that metacritic has given games so I can't really say, and generally the games I like are almost universally acclaimed anyway, because I think I have pretty good taste.
See for yourself and tell me if you think I have good taste or not:
http://www.inceptional.com/2016/08/18/my-top-games-of-all-time/
http://www.inceptional.com/2016/08/04/the-top-10-game-boy-advance-games-according-to-me/
http://www.inceptional.com/2016/01/18/kirks-top-10-super-nintendo-games-in-pics/
Maybe there's a few games on that list that have lowish scores on metacritic, but I can't be bothered checking.
@merrygorndoflife No, my friend, it's just a joke, and it's not mine.
@VanillaLake Look at the replies to his tweet.
@Lucina It just comes off as really irrational for absolutely no real reason. And it isn't even about needing anyone to like a game or what Nintendo is doing. It's just straight up complaining that isn't constructive at all.
@merrygorndoflife Sorry I had no idea. I thought it was just a joke like the other tweets and retweets... I'm editing my comment now. I never do any spoilers, I don't like them.
@VanillaLake Hahaha, indeed.
@DrRandle 70/100 is decent enough, but for a Metroid game . . .
Also, nothing makes the bobble-heads not a completely stupid design/art decision imo, and I honestly can't get past it.
@merrygorndoflife Actually, I didn't know this dude until @UmbreonsPapa mentioned him. I just visited his Twitter and I read some tweets like that one and the "Metroid is Dead" retweet. I thought they were just trying to be funny, I had not read the answers by then.
@-DEMISE- Hey, at least I'm consistent.
@UmbreonsPapa That's what I've garnered as well. Hopefully one day he grows up a little, but I'm not counting on that to happen anytime soon.
@VanillaLake Don't worry about me, I'm not a Metroid fan so it's not bothering me
@merrygorndoflife At least that's not a Metroid Prime 4 spoiler.
@VanillaLake And I had already seen this in a YouTube comment, by the way (I thought it was a joke too).
@Shiryu
That series deserves a third entry.
@merrygorndoflife And I thought you were extremely naive to believe it was true just now... That's why I liked your comment #460. LOL
@-DEMISE- About 80% of your last 15 comments have been off-topic and argumentative. Please stop. I won't ask again.
@Diortem Ahahaha, you tell others to mind their own business when your inflammatory comments are just the opposite of that? No, you are the annoying and overblown, constantly demanding individual who deserves to be told to chill out. The world would be better without people flying into a fit of rage over such inconsequential things. I hope everyone including your mother meets your expectations today.
This could very well be the most ridiculous comment section I've seen yet on NL and I've been here since the start.Give it a break guys!
A proper Metroid is coming folks ,mark my words.
Good lord, this place is even crazier than the "localization" crusades from last year up until #FE came out.
@Wexter yeah, poor team. The thing is, it's not their fault, they just made the game Nintendo wanted them to make (and by all accounts it's not a bad game). I don't have any plans on getting it but that's only because it's not the type of Metroid game I want.
There are tons of Mario games out there, and if you like one type of Mario game that doesn't mean you have to like another type of Mario game (or that you're even the demographic for it). I think the same thing is happening here. This is a Metroid game, but not a core Metroid game. If we don't want it we don't have to play it, but we don't have to hate it either.
No one who loves Mario platformer games have ever said there shouldn't be a Mario Party game. That's just silly. I guess we need to relearn that with Metroid.
And yeah!! Lt. Noin rocks!! ໒( ♥ ◡ ♥ )७
@IceClimbers that's it? (--_-- ) hmmmm...
@-DEMISE- @BiasedSonyFan once again voices of reason in a sea of I don't know what. I wager this page will hit 600 comments.
The way I see it is, if you don't like the opinions and review scores this site dishes out, leave. Find a site that ticks your boxes and walk away. Don't waste your time in here telling people you hate a game you've never played on constant loop for over a year.
@WiltonRoots
Or start a youtube account. I hear video game reviews on youtube are all the rage (along with letsplays).
@Utena-mobile Youtube is great. You can post a video of two kittens playing with a tennis ball and it can turn into an all out race war.
Amazingly sometimes in here you can see the almighty chasm between opinions and how normal people see the world and you'd swear you were on a youtube channel.
@WiltonRoots how sad...
I think I'll start a youtube channel anyways.
@Utena-mobile Possible NX chipsets will get you 10k followers in a month. Lol.
@WiltonRoots "The way I see it is, if you don't like the opinions and review scores this site dishes out, leave. Find a site that ticks your boxes and walk away. Don't waste your time in here telling people you hate a game you've never played on constant loop for over a year."
Wise words indeed!
@CanisWolfred I find the lack of humour and fun far more upsetting than personal comments against the review. you guys seem to have really forgot that video games are about fun! And we are blessed with Nintendo still caring more about fun than triple A unfinished crap we find in stores nowadays. I am not a troll and that was neither troll or bait, just a tease. If people can't don't liek my work here, they just have to pass it up or even pass up the whole site altogether. This is Nintendo Life and I have seen far, far worse communities out there. I'm here to have fun and write about video games. I never go for boring step by step professional style critics as I believe there are far too many serious sites going about those already. I always add my own little touch to the mix, which most of the people seem to enjoy. Of course I had never done it over NL in a game of this magnitude, but I was painfully well aware what I was getting into, and it didn't matter if I had gave a game a 1 or a 10, most people already clicked this review with their minds made up. Funny thing, a few days from now no one will remember this review or anything I wrote. This is our current society, very short life span to anything because there is always something new to distract our attention. Since I have been a round for way too long, I can but draw parallels with "Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty" after Kojima pulled this exact same stunt of turning the spotlight away from the main protagonist and leting players experience the MGs universe form the fresh perspective of a young soldier, living in the shadow of Solid Snake. It's the exact same here, with Samus ever present but just out of players reach. It's a old narrative trick that translates well into video game. But back when MGS2 came out, the Internet, communities, even websites were not what they are nowadays and as such despite a lot of people feeling MGS2 was not the sequel they wanted, eventaulyl found out a very "solid" gaming experience indeed.
...holy crap, I need to write less!
No one will read this whole comment except you, Canis.
Here's a nice game for you: pick a number between 1 and 487 and read the comment. Try to find the best one!
@Shiryu
I read it.
Thank you for the wise words!
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@Shiryu I read it. So, in MGS 2, Snake is always around helping you and being a total BA. Does the same thing happen in Federation Force? Do we get to fight along Samus? Does she show up at several points to bail you out from danger?
@Utena-mobile I don't want to spoil that away... the biggest and most rewarding part of the experience is actually experiencing the many surprises that lie and wait for the player in the campaign... you can't really tell, but I'm nodding yes with my head while writing this reply.
@Luffymcduck Thse are not wise words, this is common sense. Something sadly lacking from our online world.
@Shiryu OMG!!! it's true!! I'm so happy. (T_T )
@gcunit Are you serious? Off-topic? Literally every single one of my comments has been either a comment about this game or the Metroid series, or a response to someone who directed a comment at me after taking issue with comments I posted in defense of this review and the reviewer, so maybe focus your attention on those people. Very strange that you would single me out specifically.
@WiltonRoots According to the "moderators" on this site, defending this site's reviews is somehow a bad thing, worthy of a ban threat, so I guess there's just no winning here.
@Shiryu I read it. Good words.
@Shiryu Salute. Sometimes you have to accept there's people out there you'll never get through to. The gaming community is one of the worst groups of people out there by a country mile.
You give a review based on your honest opinion playtesting a game over a long period and you'll get shot down in seconds for being completely wrong. By people who don't own it or intend to play it. It's like me driving a car 500 miles and having a great time and someone who can't even drive telling me the car is garbage.
Looks like a decent game in all honesty. I'm gonna go out on a limb though and predict great disparity among the reviews collectively though. Unfortunately, some will review the game and knock it simply for not being what they wanted, rather than how well it succeeds at being what it was intended to be. Likewise, I'm sure there are plenty of apologists who feel it is up to them to rate the game highly to counteract the haters.
What a mess.
We are all here because we love video games. And passions is often completely irrational and make us turn ugly. I assume we are all blessed owners of the greatest (software wise) hand-held system ever released. If you don't like this game, just pick one of the hundreds of already other great ones out there. But if you are just being poisonous against something you never really experienced or even worse, trying to push your opinion onto other people who have no such prejudice and are willing to try the game with a open, tolerant mind then I must warn you have issues and you should seek help because you will find no success here. Life is too short to spend typing hate on the internet, there are far too many awesome video games both old and new we should be playing instead of... by the Gods of old and new, there are over 500 comment posts on this little review thingy already!? Damn people, it is Friday night and Summer in the northern hemisphere, relax and play more games!!!
@Shiryu I hope it gets to 1000!
@naut
"But I think if you're really honest with yourself, you know that a game about the Federation could have been something much, much more than this."
Any game could be something much, much more than it is, but it would be difficult for Federation Force, not without new hardware. I am honest with myself, this game looks fun, and the over the top negative reactions it received are unwarranted
@WiltonRoots I disagree "The gaming community is one of the worst groups of people" else I would not be volunteering my precious free time helping out around here. In fact I believe we are all part of a very lucky, extraordinary enlightened group of people that should not be reflected on the poor actions of a few. Growing up with Nintendo games taught me among other many other things tolerance and respect for the medium.
A video game is not our birthright nor a case of life and death, it is a retail product of work by many people. Despite of what marketing departments might want you to believe, it is us the consumers and not anyone else who decides if a game is worthy of the asking price. In this particular case, I am but the middle man, a guy who was lucky enough to have the game way earlier than I was expecting since I am from Europe. I played it, want to play it even more but had to stop and wrote a 2000 word review telling my personal experience. Believing I am unbiased is ridiculous, no human child past the age of 3 is unbiased, we are all subject to influences from our surrounding environment. As such I am biased indeed, but not to defend Nintendo, Next Level Games or even Nintendo Life. I am biased by my 30+ years of playing video games and even more so as a Metroid fan who has come to expect very high indeed after Retro Studios "Metroid Prime" trilogy. I feared disappointment and instead I was surprised with a polished product which I will buy at retail when it is released in Europe day 1. Can't wait for my freinds to start picking this up so I can play online with more people. Make no mistake this is a "Metroid Prime" game from start to finish and is for fans of the series. Pass this one up at your own peril.
@Utena-mobile If that happens I will retire and go live off somewhere with no internet and only my SNES hooked up to a CRT TV.
@Shiryu you don't need to explain yourself. There's a few people in here who need to take a step back and look at what they type from a real world perspective. This is just a game at the end of the day. Nintendo is not putting a gun to anyone's head, it's out there. If you like the review, buy it, if it doesn't tick your boxes, get something else. I see lots of films I don't want to see, but I don't see the point in polluting fans of those films' fan pages because it's not for me.
@Shiryu replying to #508 I was referring to people who damn things blindly with no knowledge of what they are damning, this is a common and unfortunate trait throughout this industry. It's just trolling in my eyes. But I appreciate your last response. Thanks.
@Shiryu Stands up and starts clapping Bravo, good sir! That was beautifully said! I wish more gamers thought like you do. Thank you for giving us your opinion on this game and for reiterating that video games are about fun. A concept that is lost to many gamers sadly.
Seriously though, thank you for bringing common sense, decency and for explaining the purpose of why we all play games to this comment section. It was sorely needed.
@Shiryu I just read on Eurogamer that there's something happens after the credits roll that hints of Metroid Prime 4.Did you notice yourself? I don't want to mention here what happens as it contains spoilers.
This just adds to my belief we'll be shown a new Metroid when NX is revealed.
@Lucina It should not be needed. Why are people, even worse, much younger people than me so jaded nowadays? We even live in the age of plenty with tons of video games ever more affordable and easy to reach. They hav n o clue what it was like to be a PAL gamer in the 80's and 90's...
@OorWullie No spoils from me :x... tries not to nod head affirmatively
@Shiryu no, that's so sad. (T_T )
btw, true story, I took part in one of U.S. playstation blog's most commented posts. There was a demo for a PS Vita game that was coming out but the post with the store update was late. Well, I mean, I like Grace and everything but the only thing consistent about the store update is its inconsistency, and this time it was over 24 hours late.
People went crazy!! The comments went all over the place and a lot of hateful words were spent. I stayed until 3 in the morning adding comments here and there (I even got quoted in a website (^_^ )). It was a lot of fun (except for the blog because they got a lot of hate).
And you know what was the worst thing about the experience? No one really cared about the PS Vita game demo. The game sold so-so, and the PS Vita is considered a flop in the U.S.
"Gamers", am I right?
@Shiryu SNES is the best console ever and Super Mario World is the best game ever. I really like your peaceful attitude and you sound like a good guy but truth be told the problem is (and you can see it here) when people are hateful and disrespectful to other users. It shouldn't really matter if some users like the game/review and some don't, that's perfectly normal and logical. I don't know what attitudes you are referring to on your comments but since it's not really clear I just wanted to point out that it's fine to disagree as long as you are not attacking other users personally. And people shouldn't mix ignorant trolls with gamers with a lot of gaming experience that are just being critical.
@Utena-mobile Just summon Star Fox Zero's spirit and it might happen.
@Shiryu Oh man the PAL 50Hz days....urgh. I got a UK Megadrive in 89, I live in London...when I got a US SNES when it came out and a Japanese 60Hz Megadrive a little while later, it made you realise people in Europe were playing games in slow motion. Painful times...
@VanillaLake Correction: the SNES IS the best console ever made and it has the finest library of games ever made. Now excuse me as I prepare for the onslaught of Playstation owners (ironically I am also one of them). puts fists up
@WiltonRoots I refuse to play "Sonic" on a PAL Megadrive... boy were we screwed on that one.
@Utena-mobile You sure you still want to make a youTube channel?
@Shiryu OK, I'm going to edit my message to reflect that since that would be more accurate. I love the SNES. It's also childhood nostalgia but not just that. It sounds incredibly well, what a sound chip! The GBA sound is rubbish in comparison. Too bad the FX chips are not well emulated and thus not even Nintendo is able to release FX games downloads.
@Shiryu Geez dude, I didn't mean anything by it.
@Shiryu uhm... you might be right. (._ . )
Also, I don't think a lot of gamers would like my opinions. I mean, I'm a huuuuuge Other M fan, and I'm constantly being reminded how much of a poor life choice that is.
Maybe that's why even though I don't intend to buy Federation Force, I'm not outright hating it. I'm more upset that Nintendo did nothing for Samus' anniversary. I mean, she's a gaming legend. She deserves at least a miiverse post, but no, she didn't get even that.
@Shiryu I wish I knew the answer to the honestly. We're so blessed to be living in an era where games are plentiful, there are many options to choose from in terms of consoles and games, and video games are vastly more popular and acceptable in this day and age than they were in the 90's. We have games that go on sale constantly, games that use VR and motion controls, games that look like a Pixar movie, games that tell deep and compelling stories and games that allow us to play with our friends no matter where they are.
As a gamer who grew up in the 90's, I am very grateful to be living in an era where all that and more are occurring around us. I truly do not understand why gamers these days are so jaded, cynical, negative and constantly attack games before they give them a chance. I feel old for saying this, but I remember a time when video games were about having fun, not going to message boards or comment sections and exclaiming our pure hatred for a piece of entertainment.
At any rate, I truly hope us as gamers can focus on what's important, and that is of course having fun, instead of focusing so much of our time and energy on hate.
@BiasedSonyFan Not one that's on metacritic but probably outside of that, although none are immediately popping into my head as I type.
@Lucina I can't imagine what gaming was like without the internet. (o_O )
But the reason people weren't mad about things was probably because they didn't know better (I'm guessing). EA was just a logo, there were no other Japanese games besides the ones that were localized, and the only gaming censorship that gamers probably knew about was Mortal Kombat's attempts to send children's souls to hell.
It must have been like the wild west!
@VanillaLake "I just wanted to point out that it's fine to disagree as long as you are not attacking other users personally."
How nice of you to say that after posting like a hundred comments about how this site's reviews and reviewers "can't be taken seriously", and dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as a "troll" and reporting them. I wonder which stance is more representative of how you actually feel.
@Utena-mobile It truly was the Wild West back then. And yeah we didn't know any better because news sites weren't informing us about all these various things. We relied on magazines and TV commercials. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, but not always. I just think it would be nice if we were more focused on playing our games and having fun like we did back in the day, being grateful for what we got instead of biting at the chance to be negative or tear games apart, as if it were a blood sport.
@Lucina I kind of wish it was still like that. I mean, I didn't really become a gamer until the GameCube, but even then, I remember games being judged on their own merit rather than being picked apart for frame rates and resolutions.
I mean, sure, Digital Foundry is fun to watch every now and then, but I feel like it has done more harm than good by adding fuel to the console war flame. These past couple years have been really bad in regards to how fans treat each other.
I'm stuck in traffic, but that won't stop this kangaroo from saying to keep it classy, and that don't worry, Samus will return I'm a proper adventure that'll make Metroid fans say "YEE". Also, Anthony Higgs for Super Smash Bros. 5, I will remember THESE
@Utena-mobile I honestly couldn't agree more with what you just said. It was a simpler time back then, but at least we weren't at each other's throats all the time over so many petty things and judging games properly, not being so consumed with the amount of pixels on screen but rather the content within the game itself. Such things more than likely occurred even before the time of the GameCube, but not to this extent, and certainly not this much hatred over a piece of entertainment.
@Lucina
lol. welp, looks like the comments have finally died down. @Shiryu can rest easy and know he won't have to be stuck with just a SNES.
It's kind of funny, but comments are kind of like a kid throwing a tantrum. It's really horrible and annoying for awhile, and then as soon as everyone tires out it kind of settles into this sleepy quiet.
Anyways, it was fun talking to you. (^_^ )/ I'm off to check out the other articles and then play some games.
@Diortem he's right (about calming down) and your comment in response to him is hypocritical (regarding minding your own business) when you consider what he himself is replying to, regarding your initial reply (made an uninvited assumption about an individual regarding their light hearted opinion).
You come across a bit tetchy and have assumed about someone's intentions based on a generalised statement. Why not discuss the game with weighted objective analysis and opinions to back up your own, rather than pick at people directly and unrelated to the topic.
@Shiryu
I loved your post! Nice write up! I am loving Federation Force because I can finally play a co-op shooter with my Wife! I love Next Level Games - the game is awesome and I am having a great time with it!
The next REAL entry for Metroid should be on NX.... NOT on 3DS (not enough horsepower) - so a spinoff on 3DS is perfect IMO.
"While you don't get to play as her here, it's easy to accept that this game is all about the unknown soldier, the average space Joe "
Then this is not a METROID game. When people get a METROID game, it comes with expectations. One of them is to play as Samus Aran. This sounds like an average FPS with the METROID name slapped on. That's why gamers didn't like it since it was announced, because Nintendo, arrogantly, is doing whatever the F they wany with METROID , removing the heroine and making it more kiddish and effeminate and accepting fans to accept it or else.
If they are making a Metroid game then they should make a metroid game, not whatever they feel to. This game is gonna bomb. And deservely so.
Of course the review here is going to be positive. With a name like Nintendolife what do you expect? But I can honestly say this game sucks. Yes, I bought it. Yes, I played it. Yes, I beat it. And I'm never touching it again. It honestly looks like a game that started out as something else and then Nintendo slapped the METROID name on it and tried to add it to the brand. I'm 43 years old. I received the NES as a Christmas gift back in 1987. I was in 8th grade. And METROID was my first game. I've been a huge fan ever since. And Nintendo just took a big steaming dump on us by by putting out this crap game on the 30th anniversary of METROID. I'll keep the game just to add to my collection, but I seriously doubt I'll be playing it again. Consider the $40.00 I paid for this game as a contribution to the next METROID game that hopefully Nintendo will make for the fans. You're welcome.
@Shiryu - Jokes on you, you didn't use paragraphs, so your comment's unreadable for me.
...but I've said me peace, regardless. I don't agree that what you did was in good taste, nor do I feel it was necessary in any way, as it did little to furthur your point, while also potentially obscuring it. Perhaps I am being too serious about it, and it's not like I'm asking you to change it now or anything. If there was damage to be had, it has long been done. If anything, I'm just frustrated that it's one of those little things you could've easily avoided, or even utilized to get more people to read your article, yet you choose the lesser avenue, and felt it was okay to "test" your audience.
So I guess I'm just mildly disappointed. Or "defeated" as I had said before. Again, this is hardly the worst case I've seen, and not just here. Heck, I just checked out PushSquare again yesterday, so believe me when I say it could've been a whole lot worse in every possible way. I merely ask that, should the opportunity arise that you get to review a controvertial game again, you remember that first impressions can have a huge impact on how people interpret your review, and spend a little more time weighing your options.
...holy crap, I need to write less, too...
@Diortem So... a game needs Samus to be good? There is nothing wrong here...
My only concern is the ''chibi'' graphics, it just doesn't work for Metroid, the characters look ridiculous...
@PHOPOW @Minotaurgamer Are you just one person using two different accounts?
@BiasedSonyFan
I must say, great job exposing.
@VanillaLake
I was obviously talking about insinuations and slandering. Things like "Nintendo-focused sites give it a good score and multi-console sites bad, strange" are just disgusting. And not even true.
And stop playing the victim card. "Nintendo Life reviews can't be taken seriously, but I'm respectful of other opinions. I never started anything, but look how I'm being flamed. Report, report!", that's how you sound.
@-DEMISE- weird how this review has people popping up completely out of nowhere to condemn it.
@Rin-go sounds about right.
What did I miss?
I do wish this was made or marketed to be received better. I'd give it a try if I'd have been more on board with 3DS gaming. Maybe whatever portable comes in the NX era will grab me... or maybe almost all the games will be playable on the TV in comfort so I won't have to miss so many great games.
I don't see this kind of storm for my beloved Paper Mario series...
Gosh....already reached 500 posts and the debates still goes on...
@PanzerNomad Elaborate?
@Rin-go Are you serious? I haven't done anything wrong, I just stated my opinion, nobody should be harassed because of that. Please stop the manipulation and have some common sense if you can, which seems unlikely after seeing the way you distort reality every time I talk to you. Read the whole thread before jumping into that kind of conclusions. You don't sound informed at all.
@BiasedSonyFan @WiltonRoots I think you guys should stop personal speculations about me already. I often post here for some years now, if I don't post every 5 minutes every day it's just because I have a life. Please stay on-topic and stop condemning people that seems to disagree with you, with the game or with the review. The comments section is not for that.
Talk about whatever you want regarding the game and let people have their own opinion. Stop the personal harassment and hating, it's pointless, I won't bite, I'll just report those comments and you'll get banned eventually. Let's move on and stay on topic. RESPECT other people if you want people to respect you. I'm not the topic, Metroid Prime Federation Force is the topic. Talk about it. Or just play it.
@VanillaLake
Stop being all high and mighty, that doesn't work with me. With comments like "can't take Nintendo Life reviews seriously" or calling reviews, and by that to an extent the reviewer, crazy you have shown enough of yourself, not for the first time may I add, so stop behaving as if you're some representation of virtues. @BiasedSonyFan exposed you excellently.
Respect other people if you want people to respect you, huh? Right back at you.
@Rin-go You are so funny. Stop lying, man, that nose... You are the only one calling crazy the reviewer. I respect everybody, do the same thing and stop quoting separate sentences as if disagreeing with a review was the end of the world. Grow up. If you need other users (or other accounts) to defend your false accusations doesn't make your points any more valid.
@VanillaLake
"A score above score average. In my opinion, Luigi's Mansion 2 is one of the best 3DS games BUT Federation Force is far from being as good. Same developer doesn't mean same results. The game concept itself limits the whole development and the ending product. More 7s than 8s everywhere else. If Luigi's Mansion 2 is 9/10 Federation Force should be 7/10 or less."
You haven't played it yet, though?
"Then again, Damien gave to the worst 2D Mario game (New Super Mario Bros. 2) 9/10 ouchhhh and Star Fox Zero 8/10. That's why Nintendo Life's reviews can't be taken seriously."
"I know, this one was written by somebody else, that's why my second comment is a separate reflection about two crazy reviews by Damien (NSMB2 and Star Fox Zero) and Nintendo Life reviews in general which I can't take seriously."
"Your job is to review a game on it's merits, not defend a developer. I love Next Level Games and they've done fantastic work, but this review reads like an attempt to prop them up even when their work is bland. You even praised the music, which is nothing but trite garbage and I don't need to have played the full game to recognise that aspect." by Aurelis and you agreed with her.
"I agree with your comment, I think the same about this review."
"The consequence is that I don't agree with Gonçalo's review, no matter how nice the developers are. Love Luigi's Mansion 2 plus love Metroid Prime doesn't equal to love Metroid Prime Federation Force. Or it shouldn't."
You haven't play it yet, though?
"Yes, just check here to see the difference between Nintendo sites and others when reviewing the game"
Assumptions and insinuations, but you're respectful of other opinions? Don't make me laugh.
By the way, I don't care if you agree or don't agree with the review, but when you start throwing around assumptions, based on nothing but your own bias, as well as insinuations, then you have disqualified yourself.
@VanillaLake I suggest chilling and ignoring/reporting the flames.
@Rin-go Don't you have anything better to do? Stop lying and manipulating my comments. If they want to say something, let them say it, don't act like their lawyer defending them of users disagreeing with their writings. I am not talking about them personally (LIKE YOU ARE DOING), I am talking about some of their writings. I am not the topic, I just post my opinions about the topic in question without insulting and harassing anybody. DEAL WITH IT. I could also make multi accounts like some of you and annoy you but I have better things to do in my life. Play Federation Force or talk about the topic but ignore me already.
@Lzeon Thank you, you're right.
@VanillaLake
I won't fall into your trap.
Be respectful of VanillaLake no matter how disrespectful he is to others. Doesn't matter that he posts assumptions, insinuations and accuses you of manipulating his comments, though all you do is direct quoting him, and even though at the same time he's manipulating your comments. Let him play the victim card, give him a pat on the back and say "Poor poor boy, you have it so hard".
Check. I will remember that for the future.
@VanillaLake -DEMISE- is on a ban now because of the posts on this thread.
I suggest you stop engaging with those that are annoying you. Immediately. By 'feeding the trolls' you are guilty of continuing it as much as they are. You'll be banned as well if you don't stop. Thanks.
@Rin-go No comments.
@Rin-go You seem to want to carry on -DEMISE-'s fight in his absence. Are you looking for a ban as well?
Keep it respectful and stop fixating on other people's comments and whether they're justified or not.
@-DEMISE- Actually, this is my first time posting here.
@gcunit
I hate hypocrisy and I'm not going to be silent about that. I made a comment that was about some members in general, but one member felt touched and manipulated it all the same.
Great that a member can run to the mods being like "Momma, they're beating me, but Momma I'm a good boy" while hiding boxing gloves behind his back.
Moderate people that call out insinuations and hypocrisy are made to shut up, but constant trolls that attack the Nintendo Life staff directly or ridicule members by calling them fanboys or sheep only get a shrug and are even protected by the mods.
Shows a lot about this place.
You can ban me all you want. Just shows that people like me aren't welcome on here.
But don't worry I won't post anymore on this topic.
@VanillaLake I can't recall ever addressing you, can you point out where I did? When I address people on here I make a point of doing the old @ towards them.
Sorry I was out all day and only just saw this notification.
@Diortem, #3 Somebody doesn't share the same opinion with you on the Internet?
@Rin-go FWIW I suggested they both have a ban 36hrs ago. It's done now. Please avoid wading in to trouble in future.
@gcunit So you banned both of them then?
Nice review and nice score. I am not so sure about the graphics though, but I give the game a try.
@GregoryClarke10 Not me personally, I don't have a hammer, but they both have been banned. IDK whether temporary or permanent.
Finally found the time to play Blast Ball.
Honestly, I like the control scheme and I'll definitely consider picking up the full game...but Blast Ball is broken and certainly does not mesh well with the GameCube Metroid Prime control scheme.
@BulbasaurusRex 5.9 really wasn't a fair score from IGN. Most of their criticisms focused on this as a single player game. I've got to say that even using the anonymity of the online play and limited chat commands, I had a ton of fun finishing this title up this weekend with a competent squad. 7-8 is really a lot more accurate. I'd say jump in soon while the servers are still active and before you have the ending spoiled.
I remember good Metroid games.
I'll definitely give this game a spin. It's funny how when people want Nintendo to be new and different, even if it's branching out the canon of one of it's esteemed franchises, they're never satisfied, lol. My one, and ONLY, gripe with the game is the Chibi design-- I can't stand it, but I will be able to to get by that to play decently polished Next Level game.
Another badly scored review, just the whole paragraph on how the game has no voice chat and the online suffers from crap text messages, which no one else can read in time. Should move this game to a 6/10
Sounds to me like Nintendolife are going for another paid for review which can be quoted on the advertising!
Shameful.
@therealgamer Real gamers don't hate Nintendo. Only mainstream gamers do, or they don't really hate nintendo, they just listen to mainstream people who claim Nintendo sucks and don't give them a chance. Personally, the WiiU has some of the best iterations of Nintendo's classics and a few new ones.
Gonna pick it up soon.
@Lord Ofcourse, because he gave score that you don't agree on means that the review is biased.
@Morshu-San no it just means it's another Nintendo game getting a review higher than it should.
In my opinion reviews should be based out of 10 or 100% on subheadings like sound design, playability, lastability, online, graphical style etc. So example would be MFF would get a 6 out of 10 for sound design, 8 out of 10 for palyability etc and then these are added up and divided by the subheadings to give an overall figure. Much like how games were reviewed in the 80's and 90's this meant that if it lacked features you knew, if the sound was awesome it was reflected etc etc. So this is were MFF would score an overall 6/10 due to the lack of online and lastability. Encouraging programmers to improve content and gameplay and so on. On the other hand what this also does is stop reviews just slapping a 8-9-10/10 review without more detailed analysis. As these kind of reviews can easily be paid for by programmers. Examples would be ING reviews the daily mirror film reviews etc.
Anyhow the damage is done......no online means no sale for me and my freinds and I imagine with no online this title will fail to sell to a full potential audience.
And yes I know there is a whole lot of causal gamers who 'prefer it without online' but it's about selling a product to the whole audience not just the few that are frightened by online due to Xbox experiences!......
What I never will understand is how someone can complain about this game be a spin-off if Prime series already was a spin-off from Metroid. Prime series always was a lab. And always was shooter.
@Shiryu
Congrats for raise a lot of points worthy of consideration about what this game have diferent.
@Lord lol Federation Force has online multiplayer so what are you talking about? And reviews aren't and never have been based on any kind of scientific formula. They're based on the reviewer's opinion and nothing more lol
@FlashBoomerang Thanks, I tried my best but I knew a lot of people would simply not care.
@Lord Ummm... but FF HAS online. Also what score the game would get is still subjective, including the score system you mentioned. But ofcourse, You don't have to agree with me
I'm slightly interested in this. I really look forward to some new "real" Metroid but I'm not as mad about them doing something else like some people. There are enough games coming out all the time on several platforms. Chill people and broaden your view and you see your life become easier :'D
Why are people complaining that it's not "Real Metroid" despite still being very much like Prime trilogy?
That's like saying Fusion isn't real Metroid with it's cutscenes.
@MadAdam81
I've only played a few missions, but it doesn't seem like a Metroid game. Metroid games involve exploring and gathering new abilities that allow you to do coll stuff and access more places.
From my impression of the game after a few missions, you just do missions. Much less exploring.
I would've loved a multiplayer Metroid Prime game. This is not it. But I'm fine with not playing as Samus.
@MyLegGuy I havent gotten around to playing this, and I would say this is the best comparison I have read so far, thanks.
@GameOtaku "Problem is they tack on Metroid Prime in the title but is not! If they named it Federation Force: Metroid Heroes it probably would not have garnered as much hate!"
THIS! SO MANY TIMES OVER! ^THIS!^
I'd've gone with just "Metroid: Federation Force", but that's just me.
@BulbasaurusRex
""Metroid Prime" refers first and foremost to a story element, not a gameplay style. It continues the story beyond "Metroid Prime 3," so in that regard it has just as much a right to the name as any of the others. Now if you want to complain that it shouldn't be called "Metroid Prime" because the actual Metroid Prime the sub-series is named for is already dead by the events of this game, then you have a point..."
The main problem I have with tacking on "Prime" is that they already used that moniker on a very successful trilogy that people seem to remember quite fondly and have been waiting for a successor to for a long time. You can't just just tack something like that on willy-nilly. People are going to associate it with that series of games, whether consciously or not, and have undue expectations for it.
Naming it "Metroid Prime" when it looks absolutely nothing like those three games was a massive mistake I'm surprised nobody caught. You don't have to have the naming scheme to be set in the same universe. People aren't even going to call this by its full title anyway, at least not casually. It's always going to be "Federation Force" so why hold yourself up to the standard of "Prime" in the first place? It just seems so stupid!
**punts soapbox**
@Crushermach3 And this doesn't apply to "Metroid Prime Pinball" or "Metroid Prime Hunters" because? Face it, the name doesn't apply to just that one trilogy of games. People aren't going to associate it with just that one trilogy when it only consists of half of the now six total "Metroid Prime" games.
@BulbasaurusRex
All right look, I wasn't there for Hunters' release and I've never played it, but I can at least speak to why Pinball works:
Pinball is a game all its own and it's been around for much longer than Metroid has. People understand pinball. You can dress it up in any way you like; it's still a game about flipping paddles to keep balls from rolling down a slanted surface. That's what Metroid Prime Pinball is. Just another skin for a pinball game.
TL;DR It's because it's a pinball game, not a Metroid Prime game.
"Face it, the name doesn't apply to just that one trilogy of games. People aren't going to associate it with just that one trilogy when it only consists of half of the now six total "Metroid Prime" games."
Really? Because that's the first thing I associate it with and I'm people. At least I think I am... Do people have fingers and mouths and stuff?
@Crushermach3 Well, you're in the minority. Most people consider it a broader sub-series of which the trilogy is only part.
You can't hypocritcally only blame "Federation Force" for something two other games have already done. Just because you haven't played "Hunters" doesn't mean you can ignore it for doing the exact same thing. You even just admitted that you think "Metroid Prime Pinball" shouldn't carry the moniker either. Either accept that the "Metroid Prime" name extends beyond the "first person adventure" gameplay style, or blast Nintendo for continually weakening the brand with these multiple spin-off releases rather than just focusing on this one game.
Call me crazy, but I actually am really enjoying this game. The missions are varied and just challenging enough to be satisfying, plus it's nice to be at least back in the same universe as Samus, even if she's not playable. My only gripe is the visual style, but since it's mostly first-person, I don't have to look at the giant heads the entire game.
I finally got to this game and...
Yep, haters can stuff it. This game is awesome.
The chibi look was a huge mistake, especially when the western audience fell in love with Prime and rejected Other M. It was already going to be challenged because you don't play Samus (though she is involved quite a bit) but then making it look sort of cutesy after so much pent up demand and hope for something on Wii U. The graphics are actually quite good with lots of interesting environments but it is colorful and clear for gameplay which doesn't translate well to advertising either. It was a perfect storm.
Fortunately, if you don't have to eat the sad poison of reactionary simple-minded hater sheep and you can play a really fun game. Especially recommended if you have 1 or two people you can play with locally.
Once you are in the mech you don't have to think about the chibi bobblehead people and everything is terrifying, honestly. If you play alone or with just one partner it is a pretty brutal and challenging game at times. You can always play online to fill your numbers and people can't yell racist bigoted obscenities at you — which some people call a downside. Useful communication happens by pinging the map and choosing from 4 customizable phrases and is a pretty good substitute — better than Splatoon that way.
Anyway, I could go on and on but there are positive reviews by honest people who weren't afraid of all the hate that would rain down on them if they reviewed it positive... or maybe they were just affected themselves by the storm. Whatever.
If you like the Metroid Prime universe and are up for some co-op mission based play, and you are accustomed to the cramped nature of the 3DS, you really shouldn't let this one pass. It's a gem.
I know this is an old post but hey, just wanted to share my thoughts. With all the Metroid Dread excitement I wanted some more Metroid games and thought “hey, I never did get this one and it’s cheap ish online so why not?”
8/10 is right. I’m having a blast and I’m impressed with what the developers were able to do on a 3ds. I’ve just been playing solo cuz hey, it’s 2021 and the Switch is king, but so far I haven’t had too much trouble. I’m having a blast. I know it’s not “metroid” but it’s fun. Great expansion of the world.
If anyone is reading this review to see if the game is worth a shot, I’d say go for it. It’s underrated.
Oh and I honestly think if Samus Returns and this switched release dates, there would be more love for Federation Force.
A shame because I think a sequel on the Switch could be pretty fun.
@HandheldGuru97 i think your comment has aged wonderfully
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