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Game for all of them. I feel like the best word I can use to describe the Illumination-ized designs is "overproduced," if that makes sense. They all have at least one weird/pointless deviation from their original design that makes them read as uncanny to me. Be it R.O.B's green eyes or Wart's flat lips or Fox's less sharpened face or Mario's slightly shrunken proportions, they all manage to look off in some capacity as a result. Like they're the DLSS 5 versions of the characters or something.

@MirrorFate2 My thoughts on the art direction aside I do hope this project succeeds. I have a soft spot for Bubsy as a character and I think it's about time he gets at least one W in his career.

That new Bubsy design... yeesh. And people said DK'S redesign looked bad.

@rupeegawd okay, I got it, you just wanna be a smarmy jerk, mission accomplished

@rupeegawd I mention it because this isn't the first time I've heard a dev express dissatisfaction over their game not being able to run well on SW1 and a big factor is the hardware.

@BTB20 the intent was to make a joke that after the Mario Galaxy movie they were making a game based on it, like it was the first time we got Mario Galaxy in game form. Looking at it now I realize it could've worded it a bit better. Don't take it as me saying the OG Galaxy is unplayable, it is a very solidly made game. Hope that clears things up.

considering that the SW1's hardware is starting to show it's age, I'm not the slightest bit surprised about this choice - especially since this is a rhythm game.

@Nep-Nep-Freak nah if I were rage-baiting I'd be way more passive-aggressive

Finally, a playable version of Super Mario Galaxy!

@Crockin Alright, jeez, no need to shout

@Crockin was about to say "wait a sec when did I write THIS" until I saw your username

The Super Mario Titans Movie

@benmalsky198 I'm going to ignore you now.

Not much else I can say that I haven't already so I won't waste anyone's time again.

Anyway, I hope Nintendo goes back to how they made Mario games in mid-2010s(e.g. New Super, Sticker Star, Ultra Smash, etc.) so I can rattle off the same defenses people use for this film. A spiteful move? Most definitely. But sometimes spite can be warranted. And I daresay, even a little funny.

@benmalsky198

_{...said the self-aware pot to the kettle. (a-hem)}

@benmalsky198 someone who believes "everything is objectively good" is probably extremely incurious.

@squiddu-real I think this quote from The Wrap's review is an excellent rebuttal to that particular argument:

“The Super Mario Galaxy Movie” is for children. Nobody thinks otherwise, so if anyone was already typing “What did you expect, ‘Citizen Kane?’” then I can stop you right there. Children can enjoy slop — I should know, I grew up on dreck like “The Care Bears Movie” and “GoBots: Battle of the Rock Lords” — but that doesn’t mean kids wouldn’t also appreciate a proper meal. Nobody complains when a kids movie is great. When a kids movie has interesting characters and an involving plot and a theme worth exploring, nobody says the makers of “KPop Demon Hunters” screwed up and should have made it worse. We know kids like good movies. So making them bad is a choice, not a necessity.

@Sonicka After decades of rivalry, Sonic finally managed to outdo Mario at something.

@Ejadaddy Dude, just say you don't respect the source it'd save us both the headache

@Ejadaddy It's also not an excuse to write a lazy script. A good written film would be able to expand on those elements in a way that's narratively compelling. Case in point, they did that exact thing back in 1986 and it's so much better.

@NiallMitch14 there are several Mario games(both mainline and spin-off) that are simultaneously fun and even more narratively engaging than Illumination's efforts. The excuse that "it's Mario" is flimsy when the adaptation is less engaging than the source material.

@Ejadaddy a movie. with actual plot. and decent character writing.

hope this helps.

@JaketheArbok "Don’t mean to be a stick in the mud, but this is just balloon battle with bombs."

You just described why it's way more fun than Balloon Battle.

@repsahj @TerribleTerabytes

wow what scathing critique. you certainly got me. i'm going to immediately change my mind and sycophantically love this movie forever now.

@JCLKaytwo

Not a single mainline Mario game makes any attempt at telling any story with any characters.

If you're looking at them through a specific idea of how a story plays out, then sure maybe that's how they come off, but if you know where to look, you'll find that the mainline games aren't entirely devoid of story and character. I won't go bat for all of them, but there are some strong examples, and not just the ones you singled out. Galaxy, Sunshine, 3D World, Odyssey and Wonder may not have prominent character arcs or typical act structures and such but the worlds and NPCs from each game are given enough personality through their level design and flavor dialogue. They help imbue a bit of story to the levels and gives them more thematic depth, intrigue and charm. In doing so, makes the games resonate a little more in your mind. It's all simplistic, sure, but being simplistic isn't inherently synonymous with being lacking.

Do you see what I'm getting at here? Mainline Marios may not be the deepest or most profound things in the world, but the particular bits of narrative set dressing help make the standard song and dance feel investable with each title in ways I don't feel are true with the film, which mainly relies on uninspired character writing and Hollywood cliches to pretend it's compellingly told, to minimal success in my view.

the short answer is a hard no.

the long answer can be read here. It's kinda messily written but I hope you get the point.

@Edd-O there's a name I haven't heard in a looooooong time

@Yoshi3 considering how they handled the Link's Awakening remake as well as the OTHER OoT remake, I think your histrionics are unfounded here.

@KayFiOS "Nintendo HATES Super Mario..."

Anyways, if this is actually true, then the least I can ask for from a new Star Fox is just to not be a rehash of SF1/64 again. I think the core rail shooter gameplay and open-ended structure should remain the same but the story, worlds and characters should be allowed to grow and evolve beyond those two titles, they've been holding the series back for wayyyy too long.

Also gyro aim. Please have gyro aim.

@squiddu-real deeply sorry for candidly expressing how I feel about this but I'm afraid writing it off saying "this is how Illumination rolls" isn't going to change anything about that. If you disagree there are several other people who are more than happy to tell you the opposite of my stance.

@Pillowpants the craft doesn't matter if their name isn't marketable

@squiddu-real if people can have a conniption about the alleged "spoiler reveal" from yesterday then why can't I have a conniption about this.

OH WOW! JUST WHAT THIS BLOATED HODGEPODGE OF A FILM NEEDED!! MORE CELEBRITIES!!!

@Taro oh thank God a person with taste

@-wc- thanks for teaching me a new term!

Also just wanna clarify that I don't necessarily disagree with you here - Fox definitely looks more off here than he does in the games but I attribute that to Illumination's questionable character design choices more than anything

@-wc- tbf he looks more like a fox than Sonic does a hedgehog

@Spider-Kev you're acting like this is some radically controversial act when all they're just doing is relaying information that was already available - something they've been for this film since it was announced.

And if you didn't want to be spoiled so badly then why are you here on this site to begin with. This is a problem that's actually pretty easy to solve but you'd rather be doing this instead. Spoilers, it's not helping and you're not happier for doing so.

@Spider-Kev the fact that you directly replied to one of the writers to complain to them and called out the writer of this article by name seems contrary to that claim

@Spider-Kev singling out writers and harassing them isn't the solution to your problem.

@PikaPhantom GEE, YA THINK?

@Mando44646 because they know people are going to see this either way

@dazzleshell ugh, don't put the thought of an Illumination Star Fox movie in my head. I don't need to have a conniption in the morning.

Well. At least the chances of a new Star Fox game are higher now I suppose.

I hope Mike West voices him.

The game being delisted absolutely sucks but I think the real news here is that OVER ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS for NO REAL REASON

@HotGoomba I've not paid much attention to the Angry Birds scene lately, how bad are the games now

@-wc-
"I'm glad my sense of "loyalty at a young age" was based on quality of the games and desire for a challenge, rather than a cynical attempt to brainwash children with overpriced licensed junk."

What's the difference amirite

Rubato!

@Potimarron instilling their heinous plumber propaganda onto the young'uns

Being on the level of TotK isn't the worst place for a game to be.

@Blue_Dread Robotnik is immortal. it's canon.