Man, that headline is doing Mayles a huge disservice. He's been responsible for just about all of Rare's big endeavors from DKC to Banjo to Viva Piñata all the way up to Sea of Thieves. Heck of a legacy, that's for sure. Whether he does anything new in the future or not, I'm glad he was able to keep making such great games at Rare(even if they weren't Banjo-Threeie or whatever).
@NatiaAdamo .. what does that have to with anything? At the end of the day NoA is still just a branch of NCL, who makes the majority of the big decisions. Just because Doug was from EA doesn't magically mean that Nintendo stooped to their level, and if anything it could've been much worse. I'll never say they're saints(they're still a business at the end of the day), but they're not pure evil either.
Neat. I wonder if that means we'll get shorts on other games too. Would be cool to see them explore Metroid or Mario in a similar light as the OG Pikmin shorts or that Star Fox Zero short.
@gcunit because we've seen how Baby Mario, Luigi and Peach look in that film and they don't look anything like the baby in this short. Even with Illumination's weird changes, the character designs are still fairly in-line with how they look in the games.
@DTFaux "I don't see why suggesting there's any intent or connection behind all this sounds so farfetched when we're talking about a company that's always in Marketing Mode and loves to hold their cards close to their chest."
As I mentioned in a previous comment, Nintendo isn't needlessly vague when it comes to marketing - especially in regards to their major franchises. There's no sensible reason they would ever try to be coy about a new project like this if it were related to Mario in some form. They know it would get eyes immediately and probably sell like gangbusters. The fact that there isn't any sort of Mario or 40th Anniversary branding and that the visuals are very different from the usual Mario style is enough to tell me this has nothing to do with Mario in any meaningful sense.
As for being this being a Pikmin thing, well...this is just me speaking, but I just don't see enough of a thread here to follow. Outside of the music and the Pikmin itself, this doesn't necessary scream "It's a big new Pikmin thing" and since they're trying to make Pikmin one of their big franchises, this kind of teasing makes no sense. Like why would you make this big push for Pikmin and announce a new Pikmin project without actually saying it's a Pikmin project?
TLDR; Nintendo doesn't do vague brandless teasing for their big dogs and if this were a Mario or Pikmin thing, they would've said so right then and there.
@SBandy1 huh. musta misread. Still though, outside of the music and background easter egg, I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest that this is leading to some big new Pikmin thing. If it were, they would've outright said so right in the video. Nintendo isn't much for the "embarrassingly vague teaser" for their big franchises.
@DTFaux "There's also no rule saying one can't break styles or characterizations across media (the Princess Peach Showtime cover art being a smaller example of this)."
I wouldn't consider a minor facial change comparable to a radical redesign of a character - especially since the Mario Movie is, even with its odd changes, still overall very close to the established character design philosophies of the games.
@DTFaux I don't get the "infant Rosalina" correlation. We already know what Baby Rosalina looks like and if the first Mario movie is anything to go by then Illumination will stick closely to that design.
@hisownsidekick here's my theory: I think they just wanna make sure the app has some form of longevity at the end of the day and keeping it to a once-a-week format is a solid way to do that. It's easy to be sarcastic and cynical about this(as @garfreek has just proven)but I don't think the approach they're going with here isn't inherently a bad one.
@nessisonett yeah, they updated the OST so it's more in line with the modern PMs in terms of quantity and instrumentation. The OG tracks have all been rearranged and in some cases, expanded upon with new variations. In addition, a bunch of new tracks were composed for the remake, including new leitmotifs for the partners and entirely new battle themes for certain boss fights.
Eh, nah. I already own the duology on Wii U and since the Galaxy games aren't Mario games I'm head over heels for I didn't feel the need to double dip.
@PinderSchloss I doubt the number will scare players away that much. Dread for example is Metroid 5, but it made a point of recapping the events of the previous games well enough so as not to intimidate newbies. I expect the same approach will taken with 4.
Personally, Zero Mission and Dread have my favorite title screens, but Super definitely has the best title screen. Sets up the game's tone perfectly. The darkened lab, the scattered corpses, the unassuming infant in the center of it all, tied together with that unsettling rendition of game 1's title theme. Listen close and it almost kinda sounds like heavy breathing.
(also, should Prime Remastered really get its own slot? It's pretty much just Prime 1's screen but with a nicer logo.)
@rjejr there's no big upgrade for these games like with BoTW, it's more like the performance patch for Mario Odyssey, where it just looks/runs better when you're playing on SW2.
@charliecarrot oh yeah there was definitely some uproar about Skyward Sword HD's price when that was announced. TWP faired a bit better in comparison iirc.
Price bad price bad price bad. Alright got that out of the way...
The Galaxy games aren't my favorite Mario titles but they're still solidly made games nonetheless and it's nice to have them available in a more permanent state compared to the last time Galaxy was rereleased.
@Sabruka This is like asking if humans really need to breathe air for survival. Of COURSE we do, you uncultured swine. THE PLANET SPINS - SPINS - AROUND STABILITY UPDATES, YOU MANGY CUR. YOU BETTER RECOGNIZE.
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Re: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Receives A Small Update (Version 1.4.1)
@premko1 that doesn't mean it would be a better game.
Re: Banjo-Kazooie Director Marks Departure From Rare With A Poem
Man, that headline is doing Mayles a huge disservice. He's been responsible for just about all of Rare's big endeavors from DKC to Banjo to Viva Piñata all the way up to Sea of Thieves. Heck of a legacy, that's for sure. Whether he does anything new in the future or not, I'm glad he was able to keep making such great games at Rare(even if they weren't Banjo-Threeie or whatever).
Re: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Receives A Small Update (Version 1.4.1)
@premko1 Yeah I don't mind open worlds but this the one case where I gotta draw a line. Captain Toad isn't that kind of game.
Re: Notorious Group 'Crimson Collective' Claims To Have Hacked Nintendo
@NatiaAdamo .. what does that have to with anything? At the end of the day NoA is still just a branch of NCL, who makes the majority of the big decisions. Just because Doug was from EA doesn't magically mean that Nintendo stooped to their level, and if anything it could've been much worse. I'll never say they're saints(they're still a business at the end of the day), but they're not pure evil either.
Re: Notorious Group 'Crimson Collective' Claims To Have Hacked Nintendo
@Jedrus_Lilac yes we get it you don't like things being expensive - NONE of us do. Doesn't mean Nintendo is now on the same level as EA.
Re: It's Official, Minecraft Is Getting A Second Live-Action Movie
Those poor, poor theater workers.
Re: Sorry, Nintendo's Recent Pikmin Videos Aren't Hinting At Something More
@1UP_MARIO Didn't they rerelease those shorts onto YouTube a bit back? It's not like they're lost to time or anything.
Re: Sorry, Nintendo's Recent Pikmin Videos Aren't Hinting At Something More
Neat. I wonder if that means we'll get shorts on other games too. Would be cool to see them explore Metroid or Mario in a similar light as the OG Pikmin shorts or that Star Fox Zero short.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With Three More Titles
@abbyhitter I wouldn't dismiss Mario & Wario; that's honestly pretty fun.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With Three More Titles
@MirrorFate2 not any time soon. Nintendo wants the kids to have their Bananza fun before making them suffer through Beaver Bother
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With Three More Titles
Such a great selection of games! and bubsy
Re: Review: Yooka-Replaylee (Switch 2) - Feels Like The Game It Was Meant To Be, Finally
Reading these comments makes me glad I've never been too hung up on frame rates.
Re: Nintendo Updates Animated Short Film 'Close To You' With Some Familiar Faces
@gcunit because we've seen how Baby Mario, Luigi and Peach look in that film and they don't look anything like the baby in this short. Even with Illumination's weird changes, the character designs are still fairly in-line with how they look in the games.
Re: Nintendo Updates Animated Short Film 'Close To You' With Some Familiar Faces
Alright, so maybe this is a Pikmin thing, but the question is what kinda Pikmin thing is it?
Re: Nintendo Updates Animated Short Film 'Close To You' With Some Familiar Faces
@gcunit Baby Rosalina doesn't look like that.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@DTFaux "I don't see why suggesting there's any intent or connection behind all this sounds so farfetched when we're talking about a company that's always in Marketing Mode and loves to hold their cards close to their chest."
As I mentioned in a previous comment, Nintendo isn't needlessly vague when it comes to marketing - especially in regards to their major franchises. There's no sensible reason they would ever try to be coy about a new project like this if it were related to Mario in some form. They know it would get eyes immediately and probably sell like gangbusters. The fact that there isn't any sort of Mario or 40th Anniversary branding and that the visuals are very different from the usual Mario style is enough to tell me this has nothing to do with Mario in any meaningful sense.
As for being this being a Pikmin thing, well...this is just me speaking, but I just don't see enough of a thread here to follow. Outside of the music and the Pikmin itself, this doesn't necessary scream "It's a big new Pikmin thing" and since they're trying to make Pikmin one of their big franchises, this kind of teasing makes no sense. Like why would you make this big push for Pikmin and announce a new Pikmin project without actually saying it's a Pikmin project?
TLDR; Nintendo doesn't do vague brandless teasing for their big dogs and if this were a Mario or Pikmin thing, they would've said so right then and there.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@nervous-noodles better yet, they would've said "A new Pikmin game for Nintendo Switch 2 is now in development" or something
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@SBandy1 it has Pikmin, but that doesn't mean it is Pikmin.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@SBandy1 huh. musta misread. Still though, outside of the music and background easter egg, I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest that this is leading to some big new Pikmin thing. If it were, they would've outright said so right in the video. Nintendo isn't much for the "embarrassingly vague teaser" for their big franchises.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@SBandy1 We're not getting Pikmin 5 anytime soon so I wouldn't hold your breath for that
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@DTFaux "There's also no rule saying one can't break styles or characterizations across media (the Princess Peach Showtime cover art being a smaller example of this)."
I wouldn't consider a minor facial change comparable to a radical redesign of a character - especially since the Mario Movie is, even with its odd changes, still overall very close to the established character design philosophies of the games.
I think the curtains are just blue.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
@DTFaux I don't get the "infant Rosalina" correlation. We already know what Baby Rosalina looks like and if the first Mario movie is anything to go by then Illumination will stick closely to that design.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
I don't think it has to do with any actual game or property. It might just be a simple short film from Nintendo Pictures and nothing more.
Re: Meet The Sages (And Zelda's Maid) In Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
@Novuscourvous Oh I don't actually think the story is bad. Enjoyed it a lot.
Re: Nintendo Goes Full Pixar In Strange New Animated Short Film, 'Close To You'
I don't even know... I'm at a loss for words.
Also I don't get why people are connecting this to the Mario Movie? Like this is a completely different visual style.
Re: Nintendo Music Adds Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Switch & GameCube Albums
@hisownsidekick here's my theory: I think they just wanna make sure the app has some form of longevity at the end of the day and keeping it to a once-a-week format is a solid way to do that. It's easy to be sarcastic and cynical about this(as @garfreek has just proven)but I don't think the approach they're going with here isn't inherently a bad one.
Re: Nintendo Music Adds Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Switch & GameCube Albums
@nessisonett yeah, they updated the OST so it's more in line with the modern PMs in terms of quantity and instrumentation. The OG tracks have all been rearranged and in some cases, expanded upon with new variations. In addition, a bunch of new tracks were composed for the remake, including new leitmotifs for the partners and entirely new battle themes for certain boss fights.
Re: Nintendo Music Adds Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Switch & GameCube Albums
Putting ALLLLL the battle themes on loop tonight, baby
especially you, Chapter 6
Re: SEGA Announces New Olympic Merch Collab, Reigniting Hopes Of A Mario & Sonic Comeback
@MrCarlos46 those three seem unlikely but Metroid and Sonic would be a heck of a spectacle
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Super Mario Galaxy + Galaxy 2?
Not my favorites of the 3D Mario's but I enjoyed them well enough. I'll give 'em an 8.
Re: Meet The Sages (And Zelda's Maid) In Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
@Robot99 yes yes we get it TotK story bad
Re: Meet The Sages (And Zelda's Maid) In Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
Eh I dunno, seeing a bunch of masked guys isn't exactly interesting to me--
[sees Lenalia]
Now that's what I'm talking about
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
Eh, nah. I already own the duology on Wii U and since the Galaxy games aren't Mario games I'm head over heels for I didn't feel the need to double dip.
Re: Talking Point: Can Metroid Prime 4's Title Screen Go As Hard As The Others?
@PinderSchloss I doubt the number will scare players away that much. Dread for example is Metroid 5, but it made a point of recapping the events of the previous games well enough so as not to intimidate newbies. I expect the same approach will taken with 4.
Re: Talking Point: Can Metroid Prime 4's Title Screen Go As Hard As The Others?
Personally, Zero Mission and Dread have my favorite title screens, but Super definitely has the best title screen. Sets up the game's tone perfectly. The darkened lab, the scattered corpses, the unassuming infant in the center of it all, tied together with that unsettling rendition of game 1's title theme. Listen close and it almost kinda sounds like heavy breathing.
(also, should Prime Remastered really get its own slot? It's pretty much just Prime 1's screen but with a nicer logo.)
Re: Yooka-Replaylee Physical Confirmed For December, Includes Extra Goodies
@EarthboundBenjy
"how can you possibly replay it if it's your first time?"
the original is still available for purchase at a nice and reasonable $20 on the eShop. Not too hard to replay it at all.
Re: Inti Creates Unveils New "Paper Craft" 2D Action Game For Switch 2, Out October
So it's not actually a papercraft style, it's just using rigged animation?
I'm sure the game will be good regardless but that is way less exciting tbh.
Re: Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels 'Minus World' Has Finally Been Found After Nearly 40 Years
The lost Lost Levels
Re: More Super Mario Galaxy And Super Mario Galaxy 2 Tracks Join Nintendo Music
@charliecarrot for real. It's not going to kill them if they just say that Mario games have composers other than Koji Kondo
Re: More Super Mario Galaxy And Super Mario Galaxy 2 Tracks Join Nintendo Music
Oh! Surprising.
I wonder if Mahito Yokota composed these. He hasn't made music for a new Mario game since 3D World.
Re: The Nintendo Museum Now Has An Official Book
the person who uploads this onto the internet archive will be a real hero
Re: ICYMI: Switch 2 Mouse Mode Is Supported In Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2, But There's A Catch
@Jack_Goetz it wouldn't be a Nintendo system if they didn't.
Re: Review: Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Switch) - Still Out Of This World
@rjejr there's no big upgrade for these games like with BoTW, it's more like the performance patch for Mario Odyssey, where it just looks/runs better when you're playing on SW2.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 On Switch
@Moonlessky counterargument: it's a dead video game no one can buy anymore. One that got a very public execution.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 On Switch
@charliecarrot oh yeah there was definitely some uproar about Skyward Sword HD's price when that was announced. TWP faired a bit better in comparison iirc.
Re: Review: Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Switch) - Still Out Of This World
@rjejr be real: if there were a SW2 cart it'd be $80 and you'd be complaining about that even more. Don't try to deny it you KNOW you would.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 On Switch
@HingryHuppo If fun is what you're looking for, come back when you're a little...MMMMM, richer
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 On Switch
Gee what a shock. It's almost as if even in spite of the price these are still two of the most universally beloved Mario games of all time.
Re: Review: Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Switch) - Still Out Of This World
Price bad price bad price bad. Alright got that out of the way...
The Galaxy games aren't my favorite Mario titles but they're still solidly made games nonetheless and it's nice to have them available in a more permanent state compared to the last time Galaxy was rereleased.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 System Update 20.5.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Sabruka This is like asking if humans really need to breathe air for survival. Of COURSE we do, you uncultured swine. THE PLANET SPINS - SPINS - AROUND STABILITY UPDATES, YOU MANGY CUR. YOU BETTER RECOGNIZE.