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@uptownsoul that is exactly what I was trying to say, just not as elegantly

@Shambo I picked it up on Xbox in the end. Its a great game without the OTT motion blur making me feel nauseous.

@Clyde_Radcliffe Alien Isolation is a 360 game and that doesn't run very well on newer consoles (it's actually better on switch than XsX) which is the issue if all games were built using the older Switch tech first.

Immortals FR was built with the switch in mind and that still runs horribly, I couldn't even finish it on switch as it was that bad it gave me motion sickness.

What the Switch does it does well, but if you want the newer games that run well and look good you need another console to supplement the Switch.

@Haruki_NLI it's not just a case of upscaling the graphics though.

Compare Monster Hunter Rise to World, World has much larger open areas and allows for much larger lobbies online.

Large open world games like Assassin's Creed Valhalla wouldn't be the same as Switch is unable to render large groups of enemies and open landscapes in such intricate detail - look how empty BotW and Pokemon Legends are.

The switches recent exclusives don't even hit High Definition so imagine how crude they would look upscaled to 4k

@Clyde_Radcliffe I disagree.

I would hate to have games crippled in size and scope just to fit on 1 handheld system.
If you want the big AAA games than buy an Xbox or PlayStation and keep the Switch for the exclusives.

The switch can't run last gen games optimally (it took Doom Eternal an extra year of development time and it still only runs atv30FPSz and look at how poorly Apex looks/runs) so what chance does it have of running newer games that are targeting native 4k or 120FPS without designated porting teams to dumb them down accordingly.

@Anti-Matter it's not just about the graphics it's lack of detail in the Pokemon and environments as well as lack of draw distance.

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The world is barren and if that's ok for you then good, but after playing last gen games like Ghost of Tushima and FarCry 5 (I'm not even going to use current gen examples as that's not fair on the Switch) this just looks bland and boring. If they wanted a more cell shaded look then why not go for something like what Borderlands does - not that I expect you have played or even looked at any of those games because you can't play them with a dance mat and they have adult themes.

@VoidofLight Games like BotW, which people hold up on a platter has the same issues when it comes to rock and ground textures

BotW was a launch title, its crazy that it is still held as a benchmark and shows how little the switchbas a console has developed.

Look at current gen launch titles - Demons Souls (PS5) and The Medium (XsX). What's the chances that people will be comparing games with these once the systems have been on the Market for 4 years?

Ryse was an absolutely stunning game on release of the Xb1 but how many people used it as a comparison benchmark towards the end of the consoles lifespan? No one, because it had been surpassed as Devs get to grips with the hardware and managed to get more from it.

On Switch, the quality of games are actually dropping year on year. Ask anyone what there top 5 games are and I can pretty much guarantee that 2 or 3 of them would be launch titles or ports.

Pokemon Legends is just another example of games that doesn't hold up to modern console graphical standards.

It's just a shame as the game has promise. I'm stopping replying now as I'm bored of going around in circles, you are obviously blinded by the licence.

@jtmnm Breath of the Wild was a launch title, Pokemon Legends has had 4 years for the Devs to get to grips with the hardware and still release a game that looks like it was from a much older console.

Historically, games have always looked better as a console ages (compare gears 1 to gears 3) not get progressively worse.

@VoidofLight what about the rest of the textures? They look like something straight out of the Wii era.

Game Freak just haven't moved on from handheld gaming - imagine looking at that on a 55" OLED screen, It's grim.

@VoidofLight theain series has just had this look because of hardware limitations on the handheld.

Even though the switch is ridiculously underpowered this is just lazy development after seeing what can be achieved. It just shows how accepting people are with mediocrity when a well k own licence is attached.

Looks nice, doubt I will grab it on the Switch as I didn't enjoy playing Immortals with the downgrades.

@VoidofLight then why did they add texture into the Pokemon for Detective Pikachu if they are supposes to be flat?

Look at Pokken as well, the character models in that game are miles above this.

@Kirgo I think after playing Animal Crossing it feels a step back to have that sort of character design without any texture in a new game.

Even Viva Pinata did a better job back on the 360. Pokemon isn't a handheld title anymore, it's a full console release

Hopefully it gets controller support on mobile.

This highlights the need for Nintendo to actually push the hardware forwardinstead of resting on such old tech.

I was really looking forward to this but the world just looks so empty and bland - there's literally no textures on the Pokemon

@LeighDapa whats the sound quality like?

I have the Xbox Wireless Headset and don't think I could cope without Atmos for gaming now - it gives you an edge in competitive shooters when you can hear people coming up behind you.

Those headsets look so cheap and nasty.
Probably designed for the kids playing fortnite who can't afford a decent set.

Gamepass is doing an Amazing job for Indy games and giving them a platform where people can try them risk free.
I've played (and subsequently bought DLC/MTX) games on there that I have passed over hundreds of times on Switch because I didn't want to waste money on something I may not like.

The Switch does an ok job of hosting smaller profile games, but the E-Shop is a mess and it's difficult to sort out the gems from the stupid amount of shovelware and tat - I've been burned way too many times now to waste money on anything that isn't a Nintendo exclusive and I play all of the smaller "Indy" games on Xbox or PlayStation where they are cheaper/free.

Nice to see Metroid doing well but im going to be waiting for a pre owned copy.
I'm not supporting Nintendo's ridiculous pricing structure - its 4x the price of competing metroidvanias like Axiom Verge 2, Hollow Knight and Ori.

There's already a browser (although somewhat fiddly to access) so as soon as Xcloud becomes fully available via the Web then gamepass will be accessible on Switch anyway.
They might as well just allow the app and charge Microsoft a % license fee.

Hades, I've had the Switch version for ages but never got around to playing it as I'm not a fan of roguelike games but will finally give it a shot as it looks gorgeous in 4k.

I can put my unopened Cart on ebay now - its currently selling for a lot more than I paid for it, which is one good thing with Switch games

This would be better as a dog fighting game.
You need to prowl around the neighbourhood looking for accessible pets to use as bait that when fed to your pupper levels them up ready for the next death match.

@TimGibsonPBS When you get all xbox exclusives free on Day 1 with gamepass who would be going out to buy copies?

Hopefully with Switch doing so well Nintendo will keep the momentum going and release the successor.

@Thrallherd all my switch carts go in a storage case for easy access and the boxes get chucked under the spare bed out of the way.

Was thinking of getting this on Switch but will just get it on Xbox now instead of waiting.

Only Axiom Verge for me, everything else I will wait until it comes to GamePass

My first game on a Nintendo's system was Street Fighter 2 on the SNES (we had a master system instead of the nes) and the first Nintendo game was Super Metroid.

Silsong hopefully gets a showing

@Bizzyb or stop porting such old games that have been given away everywhere else and actually release new games on Switch.

£35 for a 3 year old game that's been given away free everywhere else what a joke.

@fafonio when you compare it with the Mass Effect Legendary Edition (from one of the most greediest publishers around) you see how overpriced SS is.
Unfortunately as Switch owners we are used to games being overpriced so many people don't question it and just cough up the cash.

Skyward Sword sales is the reason Nintendo keeps pushing out remasters for full price.

Looking forward to this but it won't be a day 1 for me, going to wait for people to trade it in and grab a pre owned copy.

Lack of big selling exclusive titles on the horizon crossed with Nintendo's current practice of price gouging and poor online service has obviously started to have an impact on stock pricing.

A lot of people have become very disillusioned with Nintendo and its starting to show.

@BlubberWhale judging by Sonic Colours the Switch version will definitely be the worst looking.

I will likely buy this on Xbox in the hope that if we do get a sequel that it will be a true next version.

I really need to play this, bought it on launch but have yet to actually boot it up

This is why we won't get a Switch Pro - Why bother when the base unit is selling so well.

Looks like they sold out

More indies coming to Switch is definitely a good thing - it's pretty much all I play on mine.

@HeadPirate what about those of us who are unable to get vaccinated due to long term complications post Covid?

@Specter_of-the_OLED the fact you are comparing a brand new console.with ones that are 10+ years old shows how behind the Switch is.

A 2021 Console that struggles to hit native 720p and hold a steady 30fps is just a joke. Look at SMT5, it barely holds up to 360 and PS3 resolutions at a time when the rest of the industry is aiming for 1440p or 4k.

The Oled Switch is nearly £100 more expensive than a Series S - which wouldn't be so bad if the native Switch games actually performed well on the system (MHR, Mario Golf, AoC)

Now we just need an upgraded Switch, so developers can get the recent exclusives running in actual HD on this snazzy new screen instead of being stuck with 540p.

Usual Switch tax on display.
No wonder everyone ripped off Switch owners when they happily pay way over the odds on every release.

The double pack is currently on sale for £15 on Xbox and WotW runs at 120FPS @ 4k - you are getting charged £30 for a cartridge and box!!!

Already got a set pre ordered but grabbed another here to keep boxed and on display - I can sell my used ones once I'm finished with the game them

I was really looking forward to this, but the more I see the more I'm put off with the poor visuals and performance.
I might eventually grab it if it ever goes on deep discount but I've cancelled my pre order.

I really need to get back and play some more of this, but i find the grind really boring without having people to talk with while you hunt and quickly lost interest.

Rosalina as Captain Marvel isn't a great fit - people actually like Rosalina!

This looks horrible, Travis doesn't even look connected to the ground.

Normally on year 4&5 of a consoles life span you start getting games that are pushing the technology, but on Switch we are getting games that look like knock off Wii games.
Lollipop Chansaw looked better than this with less pop in and framerate issues back on the 360!!!

The Switch cant even get DLC at the same time as the other consoles.
What a shambles this console has become for third party games.