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I'd be quite happy to see nintendo partner with Disney or further collaborate with skylanders.itd be a good way of maintaining the kids demographic while allowing them to put their own resources into other games.
Never mind android I just want comixology on nintendo hardware.

Just take out moves on prone opponents.id be all over this day one

Well done glad to see the game getting some well deserved success.i think all the positive word of mouth will help keep sales ticking over.no doubt spla2oon is already being planned for the nx

I hope they give the rest of the star fox team some good ai.one of the reasons the original stuck out to me so much is because your in a team instead of a lone ship like a lot of shmups so hopefully it actually feels like your part of one.

With the new movie and a new series starting this could do pretty well.hopefully vegeta is rocking the pink "bad man" shirt.

After last week there probably couldn't be a more deflating time to leak this news. I dunno why miyamoto is at such a loss at what to do.let platinum make it as some semi open game about captain falcon bounty hunting through space and using the races to catch criminals and avoiding their henchmen kinda like when bayonetta is on the motorcycle.
At the very least it'd be "new" for the series which seems to be his main concern.

Wow that looks great.much better than mine with the perfect dark fan art from n64 mag plastered over it haha.really makes me appreciate the consoles design.

I wonder if they kept some of these weapons for when enough folk have levelled up and gained a better understanding of how to use them effectively.
Regardless I think if nintendo has a sustained future in the industry then well look back a decade or so from now and point to splatoon as the true success story to come out of the wii u.

The only thing reggies said in the last week worth putting stock into was that nintendo "breaks it's own rules all the time".which really isn't all that positive when you think about it as a way to justify this years e3 and general baffling vagueness.

@BrizzoUK haha no I'm from glasgow so I got the reference lol.cool I only got the handheld about a week ago so was thinking I might've been missing out on some rare deal.

I'll pick up art academy and cube life.gonna pick up yoshi at retail gforce usually do a good price.since I just got a 3ds im pretty tempted by the smt is discount as well.

I like the gamepad.off tv play is very handy and I enjoy the games I've used it In.i don't think an onscreen mini map would be as effective in splatoon esp for the super jumps.as a big batman fan I really liked how it got used in Arkham city it felt really immersive to me.plus getting family members interested in bayonetta with the touch controls was pretty funny.
If the next hardware has a relatively standard controller then hopefully there'll be an optional gamepad type controller for games that do utilize dual screens and it can also double up as a gaming tablet to play nintendos mobile output on.

I'm lookin forward to devils third since it seems to be offering something different
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I wonder if it's tantalus porting? Based on the statements that group I've made it's the only game I can think of.which makes me wonder what well get in return

I wouldn't mind seeing some gyro support for lovely planet ,after playing splatoon right stick aiming just feels slow to me haha.

If the wii u is the one getting the main game I wonder if hardware sale will see a slight bump.they could push the bc and point out that buying a wii u means you could play superchargers and this racer.

Apart from devils third they could have shown some of rodea it may not be the best game but I don't see what was to lose by at least trying to promote it.a few more indie games would have been good since FAST and steamworld heist went down well.they had a perfect opportunity to show off 9player runbow mp or even terraria with gamepad inventory since it supposedly due soon.

@ottospooky oh yeah I've no idea how i forgot that one lol that'll do huge over there.itll probably outdo splatoons opening week.

The only new things I can see the Japanese being interested in from e3 is the animal crossing amiibo game ,Ryu and the heihachi costume.

I've bought plenty of indie games on the eshop.all the curve digital games,swords and soldiers 2 ,retro city ,Ultratron,nano assault master reboot etc.i get paid weekly n usually get at least 1 game a week.ive also got the demos and can't wait to get lovely planet,rive and forma 8 which are the only ones I've tried so far.
Maybe it's more of an American thing Everytime I check the eu eshop whatever indie games are promoted are in the charts.affordable space adventures hung around the top 5 with mario and donkey kong 64 among others for weeks.elliot quest is the only one I didn't see make much impact and that's because after it got in at 19 nintendo decided to run a fortnight of kirby discounts.

I've never played these games but they do seen to try n change up the toys and gameplay with each release which I can appreciate.i can't help but wonder if this is a test run for some sort of "skylanders:amiibo invasion" game for the future.

I'd pick this up.id even be inclined to back a kickstarter for a wii u port if need be, due to how honest the developers have been.

I mentioned this at length in another post but I don't think the zelda were getting is going to be what we think it is.either aonuma doesn't know what to do with the series and is struggling with the open world,or miyamoto flipped the table over and it's changed drastically.

"that ongoing issue of lacking 'triple-A' third-party blockbusters won't go away "
The issue is more the lack of triple A FIRST party blockbusters.after Christmas the wii u is basically just waiting for zelda.

@TheWPCTraveler I still have no idea what NERD are actually being employed for.according to Wikipedia they done the wii u middleware.if that's the case Iwata should really take a good look at them given how few developers have worked on the system,claiming it's too difficult to code for etc.

@freaksloan people invested money in a console and didn't get the calibre of games they were led to believe they would.
The wii had games in the scope of mario galaxy 1&2 twilight princess ,skyward sword ,metroid prime 3 (later the whole trilogy) even brawl had a more substantial single player mode than smash 4.thats all in addition to the likes of mario kart ,nsmb,donkey kong ,wii sports etc.
The wii u doesn't really come close in that sense,sure mk8 is much better than the wii version and there's a lot of great multiplayer games but 3 years in and the wii u hasn't had many games that offers a single player experience as substantial as those I mentioned even 3d world works better as co-op unless bayonetta and w101 are to your taste there's not a whole lot there(at retail at least)
So if fans are fed up that the console they bought seems to already be getting phased out .with the possibility that the only big single player gamer the console has to offer nowhere in sight till at least late next year and possibly being used to launch another brand new console to boot,and the release schedule being padded with spinoffs of franchises that haven't even had mainline games this generation all the while the "big" games are getting kept for this new console then I think they've got every right to be within reason.

Even If they didn't have more content I show the presentation could have went better.If they' shown devils third ,fatal frame and fast racing neo during it it would have gave fans something different.then in the treehouse they could show the AC games and project treasure as examples of different free to download titles they're experimenting with.federstion force/blast ball being it's own ip would have helped splatoon showed nintendo can do a 3rd person team shooter so I think there'd have been intrigue over a first person one.

I'd be interested in getting some Of these.unfortunately I ordered code name steam and the marth amiibo and picked up samus as well from nintendo last week and it's not turned up despite the courier company claiming on the tracking page it was delivered to my non existent porch 2 days ago so I'm feeling pretty burned at the moment

I voted must have for zelda but the more I think about it I'm starting to wonder if it'll be the game we think it is.we get a brief bit of footage and told we can go where we want in the world,with no info on gameplay mechanics (other than slowdown to shoot arrows on epona),story,controls etc.
Then they start making statements that all zelda games have been open world to an extent,miyamoto says it'll be suited to short play sessions then aonuma comes out and says they need more time i think that means either
A):aonuma doesn't know what to do with the game.hes has noted problems in development before particularly with the console games.maybe he doesn't know where to take the combat after skyward sword,how to make his puzzles work in a non linear world,struggling to fill said world with memorable characters like midna,maybe his son hasn't told him what mode of transportation link should use this time. Or
B): miyamoto came in and flipped over the table since he seems to hate big games these days and next time we see the game it'll be drastically different and not for the better.

It seems like as miyamoto gets older he's increasingly railing against whatever's popular in gaming.all the comments about making controls simple for this and taking the story out of paper mario make it seem as though he just can't be bothered to actually Go through a full effort anymore.
And they really need to get some details in those textures.

@Quorthon do you think they'll be able to sell a new console if the wider audience hears about how aggrieved the last install base is/was?

No nx for me then the people who've stuck with the wii u are getting shafted,the biggest games have been wind waker hd and 3d world which as enjoyable as it is pales in scope to the galaxy games or prime 3 or tp and ss.nintendo could have used some of the cash reserves and at least keep the faithful happy this gen instead were getting n64 assets reused and aonuma spending years on another zelda that'll largely go under the radar since the console will be done by then.

@kobashi100 after I've spent money on a wii u why should I buy new hardware just to get the games I could have had but nintendo were too cheap to make?.they made a ton off the wii n ds spend some of that n keep some goodwill with the fans that have actually stuck by them

@NintendoFan990 hear hear if prime iv and the rest of the big guns are kept for the nx and a new audience then I'll be going elsewhere for my gaming.

" Oddly enough, and as far as I could tell, all the dialogue was directly lifted from Star Fox 64, verbatim."
I thought I was the only one who noticed this in the presentation surely they can't be keeping that in? There's reusing assets and being economical and then there's being cheap and embarrassing.

" Oddly enough, and as far as I could tell, all the dialogue was directly lifted from Star Fox 64, verbatim."
I thought I was the only one who noticed this in the presentation surely they can't be keeping that in? There's reusing assets and being economical and then there's being cheap and embarrassing.

@Boxmonkey and if that doesn't fly off the shelves will the fans just have to accept the droughts and spin offs again?.if you can't please your core audience your in trouble and right now the nx seems like far too risky an investment based on the lack of big games the wii u has had.

@Brett I understand what you mean about the 10 millions others.if nintendo aren't going to give us big games when were the ones sticking by them when no one else is it'd be pretty sickening to me if prime Iv ,f zero,next main 3d mario etc are all just kept for the nx to try n lure in new customers ,sure it's a business but geez loyalty could at least go both ways a little bit.

I think it's pretty clear nintendo don't want games like this on their hardware.open worlds and non linearity are popular in the wider gaming community and we all know how nintendo refuse to "directly compete".even their 3d games play like 2d ones this gen.they think linearity makes them different and eshop aside you'll have to go multiplatform if you want to do something other than pressing right on the d pad/control stick.

If retro had shown off prime iv and then this was shown as a 3ds companion game I don't think there'd be many complaints.same as if it was a new ip.the problem is much of what nintendo put out just now Is so linear that people want stuff like metroid or zelda to offer something different,metroid was always known for being non-linear (which was one of the biggest criticisisms of other m)and multiplayer is generally such a controlled environment that people are naturally gonna feel like it's betraying the series.that said I think the game has potential,who knows maybe it's in 2016 because they wanted tae gauge reaction to the prime title and to see whether they should rebrand it as something new.

@FLUX_CAPACITOR maybe I should rephrase that to "supporting the wii u to a significant degree".there weren't several new wii u games announced there were 2,tennis and a board game.those are not the sort of games people were expecting if nintendo were still fully dedicated to the console,many were probably hoping for action/adventure or a 3d platformer that doesn't play like a 2d one ala 3d world.im not saying those games will be bad,but given there's already 2 party games it doesn't instill confidence that the wii u will be around for all that much longer after zelda is released at least tennis helps the lack of sports games.frankly the 3ds had a much better showing paper jam and fire emblem impressed many and personally I think federation force and coop zelda will be lots of fun.nintendo are coming across as tho they have moved most of r&d to the nx and mobile,if the company aren't completey invested in the current product how do they expect the public to bother with it?
And I'm hardly despairing about star fox.i think the game looks solid,I never said anything about the graphics,i was merely making a point that if there's not online play a lot of folk won't see it as offering as much value as mario kart ,smash even splatoon ,if it's a short game there'll be a bunch of preowned copies on the shelves within a month online would help in that aspect.such is the way of the modern gamer

@FLUX_CAPACITOR most of those were games announced over a year ago tho.people were looking for a sign nintendo would keep supporting the wii u beyond what was already announced and the 2 new games shown for it don't exactly suggest they do.they look relatively quick to make and that would normally be ok but with the drought of games on wii u people expect the games that actually do turn up on the console to look like they've had an awful lot of effort put in,the animal crossing one in particular looks a bit thin,even star fox seems a bit bare bones the lack of online play (at this point at least) already diminishes it's replayability compared to other nintendo games .

@MitchVogel normally I'd agree but right now the message seems to be "buy a nintendo console and if it sells well you'll get your beloved ip if not here have some spin offs".im not saying those games will be bad but at this point nintendo really had to keep the faithful happy so they can count on them to look forward to the nx.i think a lot of confidence was damaged with this presentation.people don't want to wait till the end of a consoles lifespan for a proper zelda or miss a gen here n there for an ip (proper metroid f-zero etc).times have changed and people like being able to pick up a couple of retail games a month (a lot of folk are still ignorant of indies and eshop games) even if they have to trade in old ones not a couple of games a year and unless you own both bits of hardware which not everyone does then nintendo really aren't offering enough nor are they offering any indication of changing for the better.

What concerns me the most is that other than the exchange with pigma every bit of dialogue I've seen has been taken directly from sf64.it just seems a bit odd like that guy who kept saying this is just n64 code with some wii assets is actually completely right.

@MitchVogel do you think there's a risk that nintendo will burn out there fans with the abandonment of software for their current consoles the same way sega angered there's by constantly abandoning hardware?.

When you need to stick just dance and 3 toys to life games on your infographic it should really be a wakeup call.the problem is the majority still don't go out of their way for indie games if it's not at retail it doesn't exist and that will really hurt nintendo.i suppose I should be glad rangers have been utter mince for the last few years disappointment like that helps keep perspective.

I don't think they can afford to keep zelda till next holiday season look at the difference in sales between skyward sword and twilight princess.all the people waiting for this will have got fed up with the drought by then at least the wii had a steady stream of games for a few years at first.

@Fidu I think it'll be fun pretty sure next level would be expecting scepticism when they took in development and and will be working hard to prove critics wrong.

Just watched a repeat of the stream after getting in from work an hour ago.Funny how much complaining there had been in recent months about nintendo not caring about the 3ds anymore then most of the e3 games shown are for the handheld.the mario rpg mashup looks fun and i think federation force could be enjoyable.But did they really need to devote so much time to animal crossing? They probably should've kept the smash stuff for this though.
And where the hell are retro? (And tantalus big port too while were at it)

I'd rather just accept the disappointment n try n focus on the games we will have.