@Jack_Goetz I agree, Nintendo started losing its magic during the Switch era (at the halfway mark), and I'm not getting the new Nintendo console anymore (first time ever, and I experienced the launch of the NES).
People are all upset with the pricing (rightfully so), but I thought the whole presentation was more than disappointing, and Nintendo totally lost their values, charm and playfulness, focusing more on money and numbers instead of innovation, entertainment and fun.
There you have it… your Switch Pro.
It really does rather feel like a mid-gen update than a brand new console.
Just more of the same but this time you have to pay extra for everything.
Enhanced versions and remasters of games we already played.
This was absolutely missing the fun and charm and excitement that Nintendo was used to be known for.
Everything was so underwhelming and frankly disappointing.
The focus was more on online play, digital experience, subscription serves and all the stuff that seems to be so important these days.
It truly feels like Nintendo lost something special in the last couple of years but today marked the end of an era it feels like.
I’m glad I witnessed the release of the original NES up until (what might be the peak of Nintendo) the Wii U and 3DS era.
All my opinions of course. But I had to share it because I need to find out if someone shares similar feelings.
If you are happy, I’m happy for you though. Enjoy it!
A solid 7/10. And if you would have told me 5 years ago, that I wouldn't have gone for a 9 or 10, I would have laughed at you.
The first half was amazing, from release in 2017 (Breath of the Wild) up to the pandemic in 2020 (Animal Crossing: New Horizons). But the second half for me was a bit disappointing, and there were plenty of things over the years that I didn't enjoy.
Joy-Con drift was annoying.
I never used the hybrid function, I always played it as a home console, so that gimmick wasn't made for me.
Not a fan of removing Virtual Console and replacing it with NSO (a streaming-like service that I never used).
Taking away the menu and shop sounds/ music made the Switch feel kind of empty and took away charm.
Taking away Street Pass was a huge loss and made the experience not feel as exciting as the 3DS/Wii U era.
The last couple of years were pretty slow. After Tears of the Kingdom (which also was a bit disappointing, but not bad), there weren't a lot of games to look forward to.
The Switch successor taking too long and not being something new but rather a continuation was a big disappointment.
Even though the second half was a bit more sobering and declining over the last couple of years, the first half was absolutely amazing.
The Switch has an amazing library.
Love the pro controller.
Had one of the most exciting moments in gaming (Smash Bros Ultimate DLC reveals, for instance).
Lots of great memories with family and friends.
Being a hybrid console, it never felt like a dedicated home console nor a real handheld.
So I kind of miss the 3DS/Wii U era and hoped for Nintendo to start being a bit more quirky, experimental, and creative again. It feel like we are going into the opposite direction though and Nintendo plays it more safe.
But with this it definitely is losing a bit of the excitement and charm.
Just my 2 cents, and if you had a different experience, I respect that, of course.
To be honest, I stopped playing and caring about Pokémon after generation 7 (Sun & Moon) when they changed the National Dex. Basically after Pokémon came to Switch. I loved Pokémon since day one and played every game and watched every episode and every movie. Had all 809 Pokémon in the original Pokéball if possible, in all genders and variants. Transferred from Game Boy Advance to DS and then to 3DS.
For me, it either changed too much or stayed the same in the wrong places to care anymore. But I'm happy I was there, and I'm happy for everyone who enjoys Pokémon.
"Not a fan of Switch Online, huh?"
Yup, not a fan. Please, bring back virtual console.
I like to own my games indefinitely, even playing them after shops and servers close.
Man, I remember buying and reading these back when they came out.
Some panels with zombie violence were censored but you could order official stickers that fit on those that showed the uncensored art. Good times!
@Solomon_Rambling
-Excited for the Switch successor: agreed.
-Appreciate Switch's long life: agreed.
-Having a big backlog: agreed.
-Investors be damed: agreed.
-Can wait for the Switch successor: Arnold voice GiVe iT tO mE NOW!!
But 400 games within a year or two? Dang!
If I would have so much time for this awesome hobby, I still wouldn't finish 400 games in a year or two. 😅
@-wc-
This is a shameless plug but I write this cause I always ask myself the same thing and could relate to your question so.
I have a show which is on YouTube and my intend is to create exactly something like that. It's still is a work in progress though.
@Arkay @Lightsiyd
Same here. After playing it for 10-15 hours I thought it's not going to be my game but over time I enjoyed it more and more.
After I finished it, I thought it was brilliant. Years later, looking back at it, I think it's a masterpiece and I want to play it again sometime soon.
The Switch eShop won't exist anymore in a few years. So who cares? I would suggest to bring back Virtual Console to buy your games and play them anytime you want for as long as you have your console. Not being afraid of servers shutting down or paying monthly for subscription services that cut you out and change whenever they want.
We need Turbo Kid 2!
The first movie was absolutely amazing!
Killer soundtrack, great atmosphere, really cool characters, a beautiful love story, super funny and just a nice tribute to the 80s.
Let's hope the rumours aren't true and we'll get the next Nintendo console in 2024.
At least an announcement this year would be great so we can have a name and a good look on what to expect.
Great list, that you also could recommend to newcomers.
Tropical Freeze is my personal favourite.
I hope we'll get a new Donkey Kong Country game soon.
For me it definitely wasn't anything related to Tears of the Kingdom. It's not a bad game but it just wasn't for me. Its praised and hyped by so many and I'm happy for everyone who enjoyed it. This year it was all the RPG goodness we got on the Switch. So many awesome games and announcements for next year. What I hope for next year is the big reveal for the next Nintendo console. That will be the moment I'm waiting for.
@KendoHead
Plus, you had to do the same things over again:
Activating towers to uncover the map
Grinding shrines for hearts and stamina
Collecting memories
Finding Korok seeds
4 Champions arc
And so on...
I'm also happy for everybody who enjoyed this game. I played it for over 150 hours and finished the story, towers, shrines but I think it is overhyped.
I thought Breath of the Wild was the better experience.
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Re: Nintendo Says "Nothing Bad" Will Happen If You Press Switch 2's C Button Without A NSO Sub
A pay-to-press button. You can’t make that stuff up.
Re: Nintendo Comments On Mario Kart World's Controversial Price
Like I said, they should’ve called it the NIS.
Nintendo Investment System
Re: Nintendo Confirms US Price For 'Switch 2 Welcome Tour'
They should’ve called it the NIS.
Nintendo Investment System
Re: Nintendo Apologises As Japanese Store & eShop Malfunction For Five Days
They should apologise for way different stuff at this point.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@Jack_Goetz I agree, Nintendo started losing its magic during the Switch era (at the halfway mark), and I'm not getting the new Nintendo console anymore (first time ever, and I experienced the launch of the NES).
People are all upset with the pricing (rightfully so), but I thought the whole presentation was more than disappointing, and Nintendo totally lost their values, charm and playfulness, focusing more on money and numbers instead of innovation, entertainment and fun.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Banjo- Absolutely agree with you.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Ulysses Exactly. Unfortunately it's really disappointing.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Pj1 Charging you for a tech demo is just mental.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Ramouz Yeah, I agree with you. Hopefully there will be a change somewhere in the future.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@gojiguy Thanks for sharing. I often feel like I'm in the minority so it's great to hear I'm not alone.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Theghostofkeithmoon Well said and I totally agree. 👍
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@NeonPizza I agree. There was a lot of magic during Iwata's time at Nintendo.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@AllBLK Same here. I'll probably wait for a revision but will still keep my eyes pealed for games Nintendo will announce in future Directs.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Mirage-5x5 Great profile picture. Love One Piece!
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
There you have it… your Switch Pro.
It really does rather feel like a mid-gen update than a brand new console.
Just more of the same but this time you have to pay extra for everything.
Enhanced versions and remasters of games we already played.
This was absolutely missing the fun and charm and excitement that Nintendo was used to be known for.
Everything was so underwhelming and frankly disappointing.
The focus was more on online play, digital experience, subscription serves and all the stuff that seems to be so important these days.
It truly feels like Nintendo lost something special in the last couple of years but today marked the end of an era it feels like.
I’m glad I witnessed the release of the original NES up until (what might be the peak of Nintendo) the Wii U and 3DS era.
All my opinions of course. But I had to share it because I need to find out if someone shares similar feelings.
If you are happy, I’m happy for you though. Enjoy it!
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Hopes Rise As Square Enix Teases Anniversary Projects
Final Fantasy VIII first please.
Re: Opinion: Against All Odds - Why Does RPG RNG Hate Me?
Grinding for the Zodiac Spear in the original Final Fantasy XII:
10% chance of treasure chest to appear
10% change that an item is in that chest
10% chance that the item is the Zodiac Spear
That was a masterclass in patience.
Re: Poll: What Switch Game Could You Not Live Without?
Dragon Quest XI is just an amazing game, especially on the Switch.
Re: Anniversary: Nintendo Switch Launched On This Day Eight Years Ago
A solid 7/10. And if you would have told me 5 years ago, that I wouldn't have gone for a 9 or 10, I would have laughed at you.
The first half was amazing, from release in 2017 (Breath of the Wild) up to the pandemic in 2020 (Animal Crossing: New Horizons). But the second half for me was a bit disappointing, and there were plenty of things over the years that I didn't enjoy.
Even though the second half was a bit more sobering and declining over the last couple of years, the first half was absolutely amazing.
Being a hybrid console, it never felt like a dedicated home console nor a real handheld.
So I kind of miss the 3DS/Wii U era and hoped for Nintendo to start being a bit more quirky, experimental, and creative again. It feel like we are going into the opposite direction though and Nintendo plays it more safe.
But with this it definitely is losing a bit of the excitement and charm.
Just my 2 cents, and if you had a different experience, I respect that, of course.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Announces Removal Of Super Famicom Title
This is why Virtual Console is missed.
You bought a game, you kept the game.
Re: Talking Point: Should We Actually Get Excited For Pokémon Day This Year?
To be honest, I stopped playing and caring about Pokémon after generation 7 (Sun & Moon) when they changed the National Dex. Basically after Pokémon came to Switch. I loved Pokémon since day one and played every game and watched every episode and every movie. Had all 809 Pokémon in the original Pokéball if possible, in all genders and variants. Transferred from Game Boy Advance to DS and then to 3DS.
For me, it either changed too much or stayed the same in the wrong places to care anymore. But I'm happy I was there, and I'm happy for everyone who enjoys Pokémon.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Wants Nintendo To Reboot Virtual Console For Switch 2
"Not a fan of Switch Online, huh?"
Yup, not a fan. Please, bring back virtual console.
I like to own my games indefinitely, even playing them after shops and servers close.
Re: Memory Pak: This Resident Evil Comic Made Me Sympathise With A Tyrant
Man, I remember buying and reading these back when they came out.
Some panels with zombie violence were censored but you could order official stickers that fit on those that showed the uncensored art. Good times!
Re: Feature: 8 Games That Defined The Switch Generation
Definitely missing defining games like:
Mario Odyssey
Super Smash Bros, Ultimate
Xenoblade Chronicles Series
Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Monster Hunter Rise
Dragon Quest XI
Re: Surprise! Nightdive's 'The Thing: Remastered' Is Out Now On The eShop
Is there going to be a physical version?
Not interested in digital.
Re: EarthBound 30th Anniversary Merch Will Include A Giant Mr Saturn Plushie
How about a Mother 1-3 HD-2D Remake?
I'd rather like to have that, pretty please.
Re: Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Japanese Switch Box Art Includes Reversible Cover
That sweet legal text on the inside of the case. Mmmmh. 🤌
Gotta love it.
Re: Nintendo Is Handed Another Lawsuit Win After Accused Switch "Pirate" Fails To Plead
Pirates gonna pie.
Re: The Results Of Our 2024 Switch Summer Survey Are In
Never licked a cartridge in my life and never played my Switch on the toilet and I'm proud of it.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Latest Financials Make One Thing Abundantly Clear
@Solomon_Rambling
-Excited for the Switch successor: agreed.
-Appreciate Switch's long life: agreed.
-Having a big backlog: agreed.
-Investors be damed: agreed.
-Can wait for the Switch successor: Arnold voice GiVe iT tO mE NOW!!
But 400 games within a year or two? Dang!
If I would have so much time for this awesome hobby, I still wouldn't finish 400 games in a year or two. 😅
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Latest Financials Make One Thing Abundantly Clear
@RupeeClock It's not officially confirmed if the next Nintendo console is backwards compatible or not.
Re: Zelda Speedrunners Are Already Beating Echoes Of Wisdom In Under An Hour
@-wc-
Hey, thanks a million! I appreciate it a lot. 🙏
Hope you'll be entertained the old-fashioned way, haha. 😊
Re: Zelda Speedrunners Are Already Beating Echoes Of Wisdom In Under An Hour
@-wc-
This is a shameless plug but I write this cause I always ask myself the same thing and could relate to your question so.
I have a show which is on YouTube and my intend is to create exactly something like that. It's still is a work in progress though.
Re: UK Charts: Another Quiet Week Underscores The Need For Something New
You know what would do nicely...
A darn Nintendo Direct where they finally announce the next Nintendo console.
Re: No, Hollow Knight: Silksong Won't Be At Gamescom Opening Night Live
@Arkay @Lightsiyd
Same here. After playing it for 10-15 hours I thought it's not going to be my game but over time I enjoyed it more and more.
After I finished it, I thought it was brilliant. Years later, looking back at it, I think it's a masterpiece and I want to play it again sometime soon.
Re: Nintendo's Official Magazine For Summer 2024 Gets English Digital Release
Would be so awesome to have this as printed magazines.
Really miss those days.
Re: Talking Point: The Switch eShop Could Be Great With These Few Tweaks
The Switch eShop won't exist anymore in a few years. So who cares? I would suggest to bring back Virtual Console to buy your games and play them anytime you want for as long as you have your console. Not being afraid of servers shutting down or paying monthly for subscription services that cut you out and change whenever they want.
Re: Wahoo! LEGO Super Mario Is Getting Brand New Sets This August
Mario and Lego both are amazing but I'm not a fan of this collaboration unfortunately. Happy for anybody who's enjoying this though.
Re: Metroidvania 'Turbo Kid' Brings Gore, Pixel Art And BMX Tricks To The Apocalypse
We need Turbo Kid 2!
The first movie was absolutely amazing!
Killer soundtrack, great atmosphere, really cool characters, a beautiful love story, super funny and just a nice tribute to the 80s.
Re: Talking Point: Which Xbox Games Would You Like To See Come To Switch?
Starfield would be great.
Re: The Denpa Men Return In New Free-To-Play Switch Game
Learning Japanese is vital if you want to survive in the gaming world. Mother 3, Yo-Kai Watch 4, Dragon Quest X,...
Re: Random: Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze Could Have Been About Alien Invaders
I would be up for that!
Or maybe a 'Donkey Kong Galaxy' set in space?
Re: Talking Point: If 'Switch 2' Isn't Coming Until 2025, What's Nintendo Got Up Its Sleeve This Year?
Let's hope the rumours aren't true and we'll get the next Nintendo console in 2024.
At least an announcement this year would be great so we can have a name and a good look on what to expect.
Re: Best Donkey Kong Games Of All Time
@Arcata Well sad and I wholeheartedly agree.
Re: Best Donkey Kong Games Of All Time
Great list, that you also could recommend to newcomers.
Tropical Freeze is my personal favourite.
I hope we'll get a new Donkey Kong Country game soon.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase Will Reportedly Drop Next Week
@OorWullie Absolutely! It's always an amazing event and I'm super excited and can't wait to see what Nintendo is up to next.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase Will Reportedly Drop Next Week
I would rather prefer a normal Nintendo Direct, announcing the next Nintendo console.
Re: Demon Slayer's New Mario Party-Style Game Gets An Overview Trailer
This is awesome. Definitely gonna pick this one up.
Re: Talking Point: What Was The Best Switch Moment Of 2023?
For me it definitely wasn't anything related to Tears of the Kingdom. It's not a bad game but it just wasn't for me. Its praised and hyped by so many and I'm happy for everyone who enjoyed it.
This year it was all the RPG goodness we got on the Switch. So many awesome games and announcements for next year.
What I hope for next year is the big reveal for the next Nintendo console. That will be the moment I'm waiting for.
Happy new year everyone!
Re: Geoff Keighley Reminds Everyone To Get Their Votes In For The Game Awards
@KendoHead
Plus, you had to do the same things over again:
And so on...
I'm also happy for everybody who enjoyed this game. I played it for over 150 hours and finished the story, towers, shrines but I think it is overhyped.
I thought Breath of the Wild was the better experience.