Downgraded controls in TP HD, morelike. No reason to buy this inferior port.
The Wii U version of Advance Wars DS is also undone by the lack of control options. The DS version didn't require the touch screen for any of the main modes, why does the Wii U release require using the terrible Gamepad?
How is the argument logical? Nintendo should just cede another year so that Wii U can eke out another pathetic year of barely existing? Yet more idiot analysts who don't know what they're talking about.
DSi was great. New 3DS is a muddled mess of a product. It confuses the marketplace and potential "3DS family" buyers. The New 3DS models should not have been made.
Look at Wii and the kind of games that were popular there. Local multiplayer was pretty dominant back then. Wii U is such a bad console with low quality games that it drove down the popularity of local multiplayer games. What are people going to play other than Mario Kart 8 and Smash? Nintendoland? Ha!
@firstnesfan PS4 will soon pass 3DS in hardware sales outside Japan. And that's with a 2 year head start and several hardware revisions for the 3DS. Even the existing Western 3DS userbase is dying out because of the lack of games and New 3DS models flopping.
The current Wii U and 3DS selection is crap, simple as that. Bad consoles, bad games. Nintendo's current downfall is completely deserved due to their own mistakes.
Yeah, here's this full price port of a game over 9 years old. Oh by the way, the extra content is locked behind a toy. Just how low has Nintendo fallen?
@abbyhitter And just who would those people be? Twilight Princess is one of the highest-selling Zelda games ever made, mostly thanks to the Wii version. Most of the people that have wanted to play the game already have.
Hahaha! The New 3DS has been a mistake from the start. In Japan, "3DS family" sales have fallen sharply on a year-on-year basis when compared to when just the original 3DS models were on sale. In the West, "3DS family" sales have been very low following the New 3DS launch. It's a poor "upgrade" that most people didn't want.
And your "data" is wrong. Just look at Wii and DS. Third party games sold millions. Sure, the biggest hits like Wii Sports and New Super Mario Bros. Wii were Nintendo's, but third parties actually used profits from Wii games to subsidize their less profitable HD development.
Even this holiday, Just Dance 2016 has been a steady seller and has appeared in the charts in both US and Europe. And that's on the strength of the WII version. That shows that Just Dance players are loyal and consistent.
Nintendo just messed up really badly with the 3DS and especially the Wii U. Now nobody trusts them anymore. NX needs to be really good, or it'll flop like 3DS and Wii U did.
What's more, Just Dance is a series that keeps selling well after its launch. So you might see Just Dance 2016 and especially the Wii version popping up in charts even in March 2016 and further.
Remember during the Wii & DS days, when November and December used to be great months for Nintendo? Now with games like Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis, it's no wonder sales are bad.
Wii's Xenoblade was a slow burner. It didn't sell much at launch, but good word of mouth spurred it to continuing and long-lasting sales. In Japan, XBX has fallen far from Xenoblade's total sales even though launch week performance was similar.
Nintendo has always produced also bad games, like Clu Clu Land or FlingSmash, but on Wii U and partially the 3DS, they've put out a whole slew of stinkers. There's no point listing them all and what's wrong with them, it's just painfully obvious that the quality of Nintendo-published games has dropped like a rock in the past few years. Lately, a good Nintendo-published game has been a very rare occasion.
That was the year WiiWare started, too, and featured tons of great titles. And Virtual Console had a steady stream of classics. Just go back and play the Wii games of 2008, there was so much good stuff!
Note: If you want World Dance Floor, it's still there in last-gen versions, like the Wii.
How is Just Dance 2016 "incredibly online focused" when World Dance Floor was replaced with the clumsy and limited whatever video thingy mode on current-gen platforms?
I saw the Zelda mention, and thought it would be a Virtual Console release or at least a discount. Oh well. At least there's Wild Gunman and Just Dance.
Despite the Wii's age, it wouldn't be surprising if there was still a sizable chunk of owners using it for Netflix, Youtube and now Crunchyroll besides games and other apps. I know a few people like that.
The Wii Remote offers a better interface than smart TVs and their remotes, for one.
Investors are probably also hoping that Kimishima can lead NX away from the problems that plagued 3DS and Wii U. But with so little known about the new platform, many are worried that Nintendo might fumble again.
@Sean_Aaron If you only have Just Dance 2 & 4 (+ DLC), you're missing out on a ton of great tracks. Not only tracks from previous games you don't own, like Eye of the Tiger, That's the Way I Like It, I Feel Love and No Limit, but also stuff from newer games, like Starships, Could You Be Loved, Follow the Leader, Bang Bang, Diamonds and Happy. Just to name a few. And that's in addition to all the new tracks in the Just Dance 2016 main game.
So even if you have some tracks featured in JD Unlimited in JD2 or JD4, that only makes a dent in the whole selection offered by JD2016 and JD Unlimited. Assuming the game and the service are up to the quality standard set by the previous Just Dance games, but they sure should be.
@abe_hikura Just Dance 2015 sold 4 million, and lots of those were on Wii. This just goes to show that Nintendo abandoned Wii too early. They could have made bank by releasing some Wii games in 2013 and even later. But even their "Nintendo Selects" budget line did very well. There are still lots of Wii owners out there looking for games.
@Tsurii Just Dance 2016 is 50 bucks on Wii U. (40 on Wii, but that doesn't have JD Unlimited.)
And you don't have to pay for JD Unlimited if you don't want to. The free month will already give you a huge amount of playtime, and that's combined with how long-lasting the Just Dance base game is. For your initial purchase, you now get more to play and more playtime than ever before in the JD series.
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Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd March (Europe)
"HD remaster boasting spruced up controls..."
Downgraded controls in TP HD, morelike. No reason to buy this inferior port.
The Wii U version of Advance Wars DS is also undone by the lack of control options. The DS version didn't require the touch screen for any of the main modes, why does the Wii U release require using the terrible Gamepad?
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Tough Conditions by Cutting Profit and Sales Forecasts
Hooray for New 3DS! ;D
Re: Editorial: Triple-A Third Party Games Will Need Creativity as Well as Marketing for NX Success
Nintendo needs to make a good console to get third parties onboard. The Wii U was just mistakes after mistakes.
Re: Analyst Firm DFC Believes a 2016 Nintendo NX Launch "Would Be a Mistake"
How is the argument logical? Nintendo should just cede another year so that Wii U can eke out another pathetic year of barely existing? Yet more idiot analysts who don't know what they're talking about.
Re: Nintendo Download: 18th February (Europe)
@CapricornDavid When there are so few games released and even what's released is mostly crap, there's simply nothing to buy.
Re: Feature: Looking Back at the New 3DS Launch, Nintendo's Perfect Valentine's Day Gift
New 3DS? Perfect way to signal you want to break up. A hideous, ill-thought device that shouldn't have been made.
Re: Preview: Looking for the Light in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
"The Wii Remote and Nunchuk controls of the Wii version are not included"
Nintendo continue being complete idiots.
Re: Soapbox: If Nintendo Took On Virtual Reality, Would It Be A Disaster Or Gaming's Holy Grail?
Yeah, just pile it on! Wii U Gamepad, 3DS, Virtual Boy 2... Nintendo doesn't have enough recent flops yet!
Re: Talking Point: The New Nintendo 3DS is Yet to Have a Real Chance to Revive the Portable Family
DSi was great. New 3DS is a muddled mess of a product. It confuses the marketplace and potential "3DS family" buyers. The New 3DS models should not have been made.
Re: Shadow Puppeteer Publisher Suggests Installing Directly to Wii U Memory, Imminent Patch Planned for External Drive Issue
Hahaha. Wii U USB drives fail yet again.
Re: Talking Point: Online Gaming Can't Recreate the Unique Fun of Local Multiplayer, Yet It's Dominant
Look at Wii and the kind of games that were popular there. Local multiplayer was pretty dominant back then. Wii U is such a bad console with low quality games that it drove down the popularity of local multiplayer games. What are people going to play other than Mario Kart 8 and Smash? Nintendoland? Ha!
Re: GDC Survey Shows Declining Interest From Developers in Wii U and 3DS
@Wolfgabe New 3DS has been a massive flop in the West, and it has done poorer than expected even in Japan. It failed.
Re: GDC Survey Shows Declining Interest From Developers in Wii U and 3DS
@AVahne Have you looked at the graphics of average mobile titles? Processing power is not the issue, system design and game selection are.
Re: GDC Survey Shows Declining Interest From Developers in Wii U and 3DS
@firstnesfan PS4 will soon pass 3DS in hardware sales outside Japan. And that's with a 2 year head start and several hardware revisions for the 3DS. Even the existing Western 3DS userbase is dying out because of the lack of games and New 3DS models flopping.
Re: GDC Survey Shows Declining Interest From Developers in Wii U and 3DS
Was Nintendo included? Seems their own interest in Wii U and 3DS is about this level!
Re: Aperion Cyberstorm to Utilise 'Golf Grip' Setup to Support Wii Remote Controls for a Twin-Stick Shooter
@Sir420 Have you looked at DariusBurst Chronicle for PS4? https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/dariusburst-chronicle-saviours/cid=UP1056-PCSE00792_00-DARIUSBURSTCS0US
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Titles Miss the UK Top 40 Once Again
The current Wii U and 3DS selection is crap, simple as that. Bad consoles, bad games. Nintendo's current downfall is completely deserved due to their own mistakes.
Re: Rumour: Twilight Princess HD to Feature Special amiibo Dungeon, Hero Mode and Touchscreen Inventory
Yeah, here's this full price port of a game over 9 years old. Oh by the way, the extra content is locked behind a toy. Just how low has Nintendo fallen?
Re: Rumour: Twilight Princess HD to Feature Special amiibo Dungeon, Hero Mode and Touchscreen Inventory
Who cares about that? Wiimote controls?
Re: Gallery: Have a Gawk at The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD's Boxart
@abbyhitter And just who would those people be? Twilight Princess is one of the highest-selling Zelda games ever made, mostly thanks to the Wii version. Most of the people that have wanted to play the game already have.
Re: Gallery: Have a Gawk at The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD's Boxart
But does it have Wiimote controls?
Re: Nintendo Games Absent from UK Top 40 to Kick Off 2016
Just Dance 2016 still hanging on in the all-formats chart, going for the third month after launch.
Re: Talking Point: The Easily Forgotten Hardware Release of 2015 - New Nintendo 3DS
Hahaha! The New 3DS has been a mistake from the start. In Japan, "3DS family" sales have fallen sharply on a year-on-year basis when compared to when just the original 3DS models were on sale. In the West, "3DS family" sales have been very low following the New 3DS launch. It's a poor "upgrade" that most people didn't want.
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st December (Europe)
Hey! Look at what Nintendo has on offer for this holiday week! NOTHING!
Re: Talking Point: Five Key Challenges Nintendo Faces with the NX
@arnoldlayne83 TW101 and Bayonetta are crap.
And your "data" is wrong. Just look at Wii and DS. Third party games sold millions. Sure, the biggest hits like Wii Sports and New Super Mario Bros. Wii were Nintendo's, but third parties actually used profits from Wii games to subsidize their less profitable HD development.
Even this holiday, Just Dance 2016 has been a steady seller and has appeared in the charts in both US and Europe. And that's on the strength of the WII version. That shows that Just Dance players are loyal and consistent.
Nintendo just messed up really badly with the 3DS and especially the Wii U. Now nobody trusts them anymore. NX needs to be really good, or it'll flop like 3DS and Wii U did.
Re: Nintendo Achieves Modest Results in UK Christmas Charts
@Antray1984 Well said!
Just Dance 2016 also keeps trucking in other countries. For example, this week it was number 2 in Italy: http://www.aesvi.it/index.php & number 9 in Switzerland: http://swisscharts.com/games_system.asp?system=Total and number 9 in Australia: http://www.mcvpacific.com/news/read/the-igea-top-ten-chart-powered-by-npd-australia-week-50/0160687
What's more, Just Dance is a series that keeps selling well after its launch. So you might see Just Dance 2016 and especially the Wii version popping up in charts even in March 2016 and further.
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@Antray1984 Wii sold something like a bazillion games and as these charts show, they're still selling!
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
Yup, Just Dance and the Wii still kicking ass!
Re: Microsoft Gets Cute About Possible Rare Replay Release On Wii U
The Xbone has even fewer good exclusives than Wii U. This would bring one of the few worthwhile things on the One available to more people.
Re: The November NPD Results are in, Nintendo Exclusives Fail to Crack the Top Ten
@Xenocity Are you serious? Check out the Wii & DS era.
Re: The November NPD Results are in, Nintendo Exclusives Fail to Crack the Top Ten
Remember during the Wii & DS days, when November and December used to be great months for Nintendo? Now with games like Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis, it's no wonder sales are bad.
Re: The November NPD Results are in, Nintendo Exclusives Fail to Crack the Top Ten
The Wii and Just Dance are still kicking ass!
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X Earns Modest UK Chart Position But Outsells Predecessor
Wii's Xenoblade was a slow burner. It didn't sell much at launch, but good word of mouth spurred it to continuing and long-lasting sales. In Japan, XBX has fallen far from Xenoblade's total sales even though launch week performance was similar.
Re: Editorial: It's Not Fun to Criticise Nintendo Games, But It's Been Unavoidable in 2015
Nintendo has always produced also bad games, like Clu Clu Land or FlingSmash, but on Wii U and partially the 3DS, they've put out a whole slew of stinkers. There's no point listing them all and what's wrong with them, it's just painfully obvious that the quality of Nintendo-published games has dropped like a rock in the past few years. Lately, a good Nintendo-published game has been a very rare occasion.
Re: SNES Title Super Star Wars Coming to PS4 and Vita
Wii mode to the rescue once again!
Re: Feature: Reflecting On Three Years With The Wii U - Part One
@LUIGITORNADO You can't be serious. Just go and look at the Wii titles for 2008: https://www.nintendolife.com/wii/games
That was the year WiiWare started, too, and featured tons of great titles. And Virtual Console had a steady stream of classics. Just go back and play the Wii games of 2008, there was so much good stuff!
Re: Feature: Reflecting On Three Years With The Wii U - Part One
Wii U has been a big disappointment, and the Gamepad is total crap.
Re: Review: Just Dance 2016 (Wii U)
Note: If you want World Dance Floor, it's still there in last-gen versions, like the Wii.
How is Just Dance 2016 "incredibly online focused" when World Dance Floor was replaced with the clumsy and limited whatever video thingy mode on current-gen platforms?
Re: Sega Themes Are Coming To Your 3DS This Week
Themes are stupid, but since it's Sega, I might actually buy one.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes Misses Out on UK Top 10
@westman98 Just Dance typically debuts modestly. It doesn't top charts at launch, but keeps selling and the sales actually go up over time. JD2015 had a similar start, yet went on to sell 4 million by the end of 2014. ( http://www.gameplanet.com.au/news/g54dd45083cc03/Ubisoft-confirms-2015-line-up-dates-Assassins-movie-for-2016/ )
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd October (Europe)
I saw the Zelda mention, and thought it would be a Virtual Console release or at least a discount. Oh well. At least there's Wild Gunman and Just Dance.
Re: CoroCoro Reveals Yo-Kai Watch Dance: Just Dance Special Version For Wii U
@Megapokepaul You must have missed the Mario track in Just Dance 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39L-M5nhx6Y
Re: Video: The Just Dance Unlimited Subscription Service Gets a Quirky Trailer
@Sean_Aaron Did you see the link to the Just Dance 2016 Gold Edition? That's a pretty good deal. http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dance-2016-Gold-Wii-U/dp/B0155VB2LY/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1443817817&sr=1-2&keywords=just+dance+2016
Re: This Custom SNES Console Is The Perfect Way To Mark Three Decades Of Super Mario
Very stylish. Perfectly crafted.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th October (North America)
Despite the Wii's age, it wouldn't be surprising if there was still a sizable chunk of owners using it for Netflix, Youtube and now Crunchyroll besides games and other apps. I know a few people like that.
The Wii Remote offers a better interface than smart TVs and their remotes, for one.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Share Prices Return to Upward Trend
Investors are probably also hoping that Kimishima can lead NX away from the problems that plagued 3DS and Wii U. But with so little known about the new platform, many are worried that Nintendo might fumble again.
Re: Video: The Just Dance Unlimited Subscription Service Gets a Quirky Trailer
@Sean_Aaron If you only have Just Dance 2 & 4 (+ DLC), you're missing out on a ton of great tracks. Not only tracks from previous games you don't own, like Eye of the Tiger, That's the Way I Like It, I Feel Love and No Limit, but also stuff from newer games, like Starships, Could You Be Loved, Follow the Leader, Bang Bang, Diamonds and Happy. Just to name a few. And that's in addition to all the new tracks in the Just Dance 2016 main game.
So even if you have some tracks featured in JD Unlimited in JD2 or JD4, that only makes a dent in the whole selection offered by JD2016 and JD Unlimited. Assuming the game and the service are up to the quality standard set by the previous Just Dance games, but they sure should be.
Re: Video: The Just Dance Unlimited Subscription Service Gets a Quirky Trailer
@Tsurii You can also buy the Just Dance 2016 Gold Edition for 60 bucks, containing 3 months of Just Dance Unlimited. That's a lot of playtime!
http://www.amazon.com/Just-Dance-2016-Gold-Wii-U/dp/B0155VB2LY/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1443817817&sr=1-2&keywords=just+dance+2016
If you buy this now in October, you'll still be playing Just Dance Unlimited in January!
Re: Just Dance: Disney Party 2 Is Serenading The Wii U And Wii This Month
@abe_hikura Just Dance 2015 sold 4 million, and lots of those were on Wii. This just goes to show that Nintendo abandoned Wii too early. They could have made bank by releasing some Wii games in 2013 and even later. But even their "Nintendo Selects" budget line did very well. There are still lots of Wii owners out there looking for games.
Re: Video: The Just Dance Unlimited Subscription Service Gets a Quirky Trailer
@Tsurii Just Dance 2016 is 50 bucks on Wii U. (40 on Wii, but that doesn't have JD Unlimited.)
And you don't have to pay for JD Unlimited if you don't want to. The free month will already give you a huge amount of playtime, and that's combined with how long-lasting the Just Dance base game is. For your initial purchase, you now get more to play and more playtime than ever before in the JD series.