@SillyG How many Nintendo published titles were you expecting in the first couple weeks of release?
I do think compilation releases of the digital titles would be neat. A double pack with The Stretchers and Good Job would go hard. But I imagine it would also be a huge pain in the butt right wise.
@sanderev For real. People seem to have quickly forgotten just how many Switch releases were codes in a box or partial downloads on an 8GB cart. It's fine to not like them (I don't either) but it's silly to pretend they're so great new evil plaguing the lands.
Heads up, two player mode with Gameshare is running at 60fps, rather than 30. Streaming to two systems drops it to 30 though.
Wife grabbed this the other night for some mindless co-op silliness (wasn't ready for the emotional damage/70GB download of Split Fiction) and this review is pretty spot on. It's basic and frill free and the art is kinda soulless but it's fun enough in short bursts. We've got a little one on the way so maybe we'll be able to play it with them in a couple years.
@Medic_alert I havn't seen anything about Cyberpunk in this thread, but maybe I just scrolled past it. I'll have to go back and look.
I wouldn't expect a port of Fantasy Life to best display the gap in console capability. We've got plenty of other games that do do that. Nor would I expect it to give S1 owners FOMO. But for the people buying the S2 for games like Kart World or portable Kunitsu-Gami, having a much better running version of Fantasy Life is a bonus. It's just icing on the cake. And it's fun to be excited about icing.
@Medic_alert I think if someone were only buying Fantasy Life then yeah you'd have a point about the price/ return on investment. But like, no one is buying a Switch 2 to do that (cue barrage of Fantasy Life stans on this site telling me I'm wrong). It's a new console. It's gonna have other new exclusive games coming out.
@donv2135 It's way more fun to spew rage without thinking.
As others have mentioned, this is most likely a set up for launch day systems to prevent leaks and future shipments will have the update installed beforehand.
@AllBLK You mean to tell me that I won't see the ghost of Iwata pulling up to Best Buy in an 18-wheeler at midnight? And Miyamoto won't open the back and personally hand me my order?
@AG_Awesome Nintendo's bput a page up on their website maybe two weeks (citation needed) ago that gave vague deets about the freebie upgrades. They sound like decent upgrades but it's hard to say without solid numbers.
@JumpingJackson There has been plenty of ire at Nintendo for the new pricing. But also Nintendo saying, "yeah this thing is more expensive and we think we put a lot of work into it and we think it's worth it," is wildly different from Randy's stupid statement here.
@8bitKirby Sure. But then they lose out on all the people looking for a multiplayer game. And judging by the fact that Kart 8 is the fifth best selling game of all time it's pretty reasonable to start off with that for the Switch 2 launch.
Edit: I want to make it clear that I would also personally prefer a single player game. But it is objectively the correct decision to ride the high and start off with something multiplayer.
@Ralizah Yeah, my wife was calling Somnium Files the, "pervy detective game." It was distracting for me there as well but it felt less frequent and it was so completely unhinged that I was more dumbfounded than annoyed.
Rain Code should have been so good but it just had me wanting to strangle Shinigami. Literally every line out of her was garbage. From the forementioned, "flat chested uggo," to Kurumi, the weird queer baiting shenanigans with Halara, or just the general unhealthy dom attitude towards Yuma. It just never stopped.
@Kuruwin Uchikoshi had a hand on this too and his games have had a pervy streak. I loved 999, and Somnium Files was wicked good, even if they couldn't stop making jokes about dirty mags.
I don't mind sexual humor, it's just that Rain Code was a nonstop barrage of low hanging fruit. Could only hear Kurumi be called a, "flat chested uggo," so many times.
How's the tone feel in this? I've been able to push through the really juvenile sexual humor in Uchikoshi's other works, but it killed Rain Code for me like halfway through.
@AstroTheGamosian Yeah looks like a was wrong about that DLC. I do still stand by the rest of my comment. The footage we have of most games seems to be closer to PS4/Pro than it does PS5. We've got another console that, on paper, looks roughly as powerful as the previous gen but will be able to use more modern parts/architecture to punch above its weight class.
We're gonna see a bunch of cool ports, but we're also definitely gonna miss some really big games or get mediocre ports of others.
@Jester676 Intergrade is just the DLC. Which is also available on the PS4. Yeah Street Fighter is on PS5, but it was designed to run on lower powered consoles. Like the PS4.
They've been debunked? Do you have some kind of article explaining that? Because all of the footage we've seen is in line with the upper end of last gen consoles.
When did I say PS5 and Series X struggle? I'm saying that the Switch 2 will struggle to run high end games designed for those consoles.
@Jester676 FF7 is a PS4 game, as is SF6. There is absolutely zero evidence that GTA6 will be ported to Switch 2.
We've already seen commentary from people like Digital Foundry who have stated the Switch 2 is somewhere in the PS4Pro range of power. Which means that, yes, ports of native PS5 and Series X games will potentially struggle to run well.
@Jester676 All of them. All of them are reasonable. But I was pretty clearly referring to her statement about already looking forward to a mid-gen refresh with upgraded innards that could run modern games to a higher standard.
@Jester676 Her comments are incredibly reasonable. Power is still going to be a problem for ports of modern games and people will be excited for a mid-gen refresh that plays those games better.
@HeadPirate The first half of the video literally says you only need to locally connect systems once and then you'll be able to freely swap between two systems you own.
You're right it's a very different use case, but there are people who this will potentially be beneficial for. And you can always just turn it off in the system settings if the old method is preferable.
@HeadPirate The 14 day thing is if you want to lend it to someone else. Now they don't need to do goofy things like log into your account and need to be connected to the internet.
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Re: Random: Of Course Helldivers Are Now Calling For A Switch 2 Port
@johnedwin Speak for yourself. I would be happy to have a shooter to mess around with.
Re: After Croc, Argonaut Games Wants To Remaster This N64 Cult Classic
Give me I-Ninja.
Re: Mini Review: Locomoto (Switch) - On The Right Cosy Track, But Has A Few Train Faults
@Pirate1 Same, I hope a quick comment on S2 performance becomes standard in reviews going forward.
Re: Chained Echoes 'Ashes Of Elrant' DLC Arrives On Switch In August
@0ohHeWrong @ear_wig Blame here lies on First Press Games.
Re: Drag X Drive Switch 2 eShop Price Revealed
@Not_Soos Sushi Striker was also a 20 something hour long voice acted single player game. Pretty different scenario here.
Re: Nintendo Confirms The Release Date For Drag X Drive On Switch 2
@SillyG How many Nintendo published titles were you expecting in the first couple weeks of release?
I do think compilation releases of the digital titles would be neat. A double pack with The Stretchers and Good Job would go hard. But I imagine it would also be a huge pain in the butt right wise.
Re: Review: RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery Of The Soulless Army (Switch 2) - A Unique, Action-RPG Take On The SMT Formula
@Solid_Python They did something similar with Persona 5. It's 720p in handheld and docked.
Re: Review: RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery Of The Soulless Army (Switch 2) - A Unique, Action-RPG Take On The SMT Formula
At this point I'll take equal docked and slightly worse handheld to get an actual cartridge.
Re: PS5 Hit 'Stellar Blade' Is Reportedly In Consideration For The Switch 2
@Zealv2 No reason they would? More explicit games have been on Nintendo consoles.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Finding Mario Kart's Open World?
It's nice as a cool down after a long day. There's something pleasant about just goofing off and driving aimlessly while enjoying the soundtrack.
Re: 'Misc. A Tiny Tale' Looks Super Smooth On Switch 2, Thanks To A Dev Hunch
@Yomerodes It makes sense. The well performing games were already hitting their performance ceiling.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Cyberpunk 2077 Tech Review On Switch 2
DF: gives a fairly glowing technical review of a game while also pointing out relevant flaws.
NL community: THEY'RE A BUNCH OF LIARS AND CHEATS WHO WANT TO SEE NINTENDO SINK.
Re: Feature: 11 Games With 'Secret' Performance Bumps You Should Revisit On Switch 2
@ButterySmooth30FPS OHHHHH I didn't even think about Dreamscaper. Good shout on that one.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Scores Switch 2 Release Window
@sanderev For real. People seem to have quickly forgotten just how many Switch releases were codes in a box or partial downloads on an 8GB cart. It's fine to not like them (I don't either) but it's silly to pretend they're so great new evil plaguing the lands.
Re: Review: Survival Kids (Switch 2) - Konami's NS2 Debut Is Cosy, Competent, Kid-Friendly Co-op
Heads up, two player mode with Gameshare is running at 60fps, rather than 30. Streaming to two systems drops it to 30 though.
Wife grabbed this the other night for some mindless co-op silliness (wasn't ready for the emotional damage/70GB download of Split Fiction) and this review is pretty spot on. It's basic and frill free and the art is kinda soulless but it's fun enough in short bursts. We've got a little one on the way so maybe we'll be able to play it with them in a couple years.
Re: Review: Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S (Switch 2) - A Disappointing Update For A Modern Puzzle Classic
@JohnnyMind Really feels like Sega is trying to take advantage of the launch window when there are fewer games to charge a little more.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Chip "Unlike Anything We've Ever Built Before" Says Nvidia CEO
@Medic_alert Star Wars: Outlaws is 100% all ray tracing all the time. So that will most probably be our first good look at ray tracing on the system.
Re: New Videos Show How Fantasy Life i Has Been Beefed Up On Switch 2
@johnedwin Truly a shocking revelation.
Re: New Videos Show How Fantasy Life i Has Been Beefed Up On Switch 2
@Medic_alert I havn't seen anything about Cyberpunk in this thread, but maybe I just scrolled past it. I'll have to go back and look.
I wouldn't expect a port of Fantasy Life to best display the gap in console capability. We've got plenty of other games that do do that. Nor would I expect it to give S1 owners FOMO. But for the people buying the S2 for games like Kart World or portable Kunitsu-Gami, having a much better running version of Fantasy Life is a bonus. It's just icing on the cake. And it's fun to be excited about icing.
Re: New Videos Show How Fantasy Life i Has Been Beefed Up On Switch 2
@Medic_alert I think if someone were only buying Fantasy Life then yeah you'd have a point about the price/ return on investment. But like, no one is buying a Switch 2 to do that (cue barrage of Fantasy Life stans on this site telling me I'm wrong). It's a new console. It's gonna have other new exclusive games coming out.
Re: Rumour: Zelda Live-Action Movie Eyes "Popular" Princess Pick
@Elitepatriot A woman. Like Hunter Schafer.
Re: Switch 2 Units Are Allegedly Out In The Wild, But You Might Need An Update To Play Games
@donv2135 It's way more fun to spew rage without thinking.
As others have mentioned, this is most likely a set up for launch day systems to prevent leaks and future shipments will have the update installed beforehand.
Re: US Retailers Are Reportedly Starting To Receive Switch 2 Stock
@AllBLK You mean to tell me that I won't see the ghost of Iwata pulling up to Best Buy in an 18-wheeler at midnight? And Miyamoto won't open the back and personally hand me my order?
Re: Opinion: Upgraded For Switch 2, ARMS Deserves A Second Shot At Greatness
@AG_Awesome Nintendo's bput a page up on their website maybe two weeks (citation needed) ago that gave vague deets about the freebie upgrades. They sound like decent upgrades but it's hard to say without solid numbers.
Re: Opinion: Upgraded For Switch 2, ARMS Deserves A Second Shot At Greatness
@AG_Awesome Several of the paid upgrade games (both Zelda's and Kirby) are confirmed to be running better than Switch 1 dock mode while in handheld.
Re: First Impressions: We've Played Three SEGA Games On Switch 2
Really turned off by Sega's lack of upgrade paths for Switch 1->Switch 2 titles when they're offering it on other platforms.
Re: "If You're A Real Fan, You'll Find A Way" - Borderlands 4 Dev Gives Tone Deaf Response To Price Concerns
@JumpingJackson There has been plenty of ire at Nintendo for the new pricing. But also Nintendo saying, "yeah this thing is more expensive and we think we put a lot of work into it and we think it's worth it," is wildly different from Randy's stupid statement here.
Re: Exclusive: Fast Fusion Will Contain 12 Tracks, Free Content Update Confirmed
@user0 They might not have quality completely locked at 60fps.
Re: Nintendo: "Appetite" For Mario Kart And Series' Accessibility Makes It Ideal For Switch 2's Launch
@8bitKirby Sure. But then they lose out on all the people looking for a multiplayer game. And judging by the fact that Kart 8 is the fifth best selling game of all time it's pretty reasonable to start off with that for the Switch 2 launch.
Edit: I want to make it clear that I would also personally prefer a single player game. But it is objectively the correct decision to ride the high and start off with something multiplayer.
Re: Feature: The Long & Rainbow Road To 'Mario Kart World' - Part 2
Cracks knuckles
Which one of you chuckleheads gave DD a 1?
Re: Random: Missed Out On A Switch 2 Pre-Order? Sakurai Has The Perfect Solution
That's excellent.
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
@JustMonika Halara is the best character. Bar none.
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
@Ralizah Yeah, my wife was calling Somnium Files the, "pervy detective game." It was distracting for me there as well but it felt less frequent and it was so completely unhinged that I was more dumbfounded than annoyed.
Rain Code should have been so good but it just had me wanting to strangle Shinigami. Literally every line out of her was garbage. From the forementioned, "flat chested uggo," to Kurumi, the weird queer baiting shenanigans with Halara, or just the general unhealthy dom attitude towards Yuma. It just never stopped.
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
@Kuruwin Uchikoshi had a hand on this too and his games have had a pervy streak. I loved 999, and Somnium Files was wicked good, even if they couldn't stop making jokes about dirty mags.
I don't mind sexual humor, it's just that Rain Code was a nonstop barrage of low hanging fruit. Could only hear Kurumi be called a, "flat chested uggo," so many times.
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
@Vyacheslav333 Interesting. Cause I've beaten the game twice and don't remember a single line of dialogue.
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
@Vyacheslav333 Unless I'm missing something Cadence doesn't have vocal tracks or spoken dialogue though? So what dual audio would there be?
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
How's the tone feel in this? I've been able to push through the really juvenile sexual humor in Uchikoshi's other works, but it killed Rain Code for me like halfway through.
Re: Another Fire Emblem Soundtrack Looks To Be Joining Nintendo Music
Not as good as the Three Houses OST. But still plenty of bangers.
Re: Feature: "I Can't Believe This Is Happening" - The Game Kitchen On Reviving Ninja Gaiden
@liveswired insert old man yells at cloud gif
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@AstroTheGamosian I'd be very happy to see Stellar Blade come over.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@AstroTheGamosian Yeah looks like a was wrong about that DLC. I do still stand by the rest of my comment. The footage we have of most games seems to be closer to PS4/Pro than it does PS5. We've got another console that, on paper, looks roughly as powerful as the previous gen but will be able to use more modern parts/architecture to punch above its weight class.
We're gonna see a bunch of cool ports, but we're also definitely gonna miss some really big games or get mediocre ports of others.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@Jester676 Have fun I guess?
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@Jester676 Intergrade is just the DLC. Which is also available on the PS4. Yeah Street Fighter is on PS5, but it was designed to run on lower powered consoles. Like the PS4.
They've been debunked? Do you have some kind of article explaining that? Because all of the footage we've seen is in line with the upper end of last gen consoles.
When did I say PS5 and Series X struggle? I'm saying that the Switch 2 will struggle to run high end games designed for those consoles.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@Jester676 FF7 is a PS4 game, as is SF6. There is absolutely zero evidence that GTA6 will be ported to Switch 2.
We've already seen commentary from people like Digital Foundry who have stated the Switch 2 is somewhere in the PS4Pro range of power. Which means that, yes, ports of native PS5 and Series X games will potentially struggle to run well.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@Jester676 All of them. All of them are reasonable. But I was pretty clearly referring to her statement about already looking forward to a mid-gen refresh with upgraded innards that could run modern games to a higher standard.
Re: Feature: "It's Huge For Us" - Devs Talk Switch 2 Reactions, Dev-Kit Disparity, Future Plans
@Jester676 Her comments are incredibly reasonable. Power is still going to be a problem for ports of modern games and people will be excited for a mid-gen refresh that plays those games better.
Re: Nintendo Says "Nothing Bad" Will Happen If You Press Switch 2's C Button Without A NSO Sub
There is a weird level of hostility in these comments over the existence of this button....
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: Wind Waker Is On Switch 2 - Do You Still Want A WW:HD Port?
@Uncle_Franklin Unfinished state? Are you referring to the dungeons they removed? I'm pretty sure those were repurposed into Twilight Princess.
Re: Nintendo Announces 'Virtual Game Cards' For Switch, Unlocking Digital Lending
@HeadPirate The first half of the video literally says you only need to locally connect systems once and then you'll be able to freely swap between two systems you own.
You're right it's a very different use case, but there are people who this will potentially be beneficial for. And you can always just turn it off in the system settings if the old method is preferable.
Re: Nintendo Announces 'Virtual Game Cards' For Switch, Unlocking Digital Lending
@HeadPirate The 14 day thing is if you want to lend it to someone else. Now they don't need to do goofy things like log into your account and need to be connected to the internet.