After playing Kirby Epic Yarn (which you cannot die), it seems to me that Kirby is geared towards young kids and thus not interested in other Kirby games anymore. This game, without doubt, is for young kids.
if you have both captain toad and 3D world, then Captain Toad will make cameo appearance in a few places in 3D World and in the ending of 3D World. I know because I owned captain toad before 3D World.
Sonic Color is the best 2D sonic to me, and Lost World us the best 3D sonic.
I played Sonic Adventure 2 recently for the first time, and it is just not up to today's high standard. I played Sonic Adventure 1 fifteen years ago and it was excellent though. So I really don't know why people keep saying Lost World was bad.
Sonic Advance 3 is the best and finding those chaos was fun. I really dislike Sonic Advance 2 - the boss fight was insanely difficult and the control during the boss fight is not the best in Sonic Advance 3. Sonic Advance 1 is not bad either.
@FJOJR @PlywoodStick You have missed some important words in your comments:
(I THINK) Sonic since the end of the Dreamcast era has been, on average, atrocious especially when you compare him to Mario.
(I THINK IT IS) the fact that they somehow messed up a Sonic 2D platformer with Sonic 4.
Please be careful with your Procrustean attitude: Not everyone likes Mario platformers and your attitude perfectly explains why every platformer nowadays feel similar. They all see Mario as standard and thus no one else makes something different. The view that you have (and exactly the view that reviewers share) explains why there is a stagnancy in the platformer genre. I personally enjoy the more recent sonic games than those in the Genesis genre, and from the comments here there are people agree with me. Please do not confuse between your subjective, personal opinions and the fact - your subjective opinions are not shared by everyone else.
@Damo @DiscoGentleman @BLPs
Nintendolife's rating on Sonic games have been described as biased by some of the fans here. I have only played Sonic Lost World but not Sonic Boom, but let's review what the review said about Lost World.
"there's a ludicrous difficulty spike late on": Zelda 2 on NES has 2x or 3x difficulty spike within the first 5 minutes into the game but no one complains about it.
"we consider ourselves reasonably skilled gamers — though not exceptional — and we saw Game Over many times": I do not know when video games are supposed to be easy. So a new standard of evaluating a game is whether a reviewer can master the game or not? This kind of opinion (not limited to those on Nintendolife) was one of the examples that encourage easy games in the market.
"With a reliance on auto-lock-on, there are times where Sonic will zoom to an enemy you don't want to or can't hit, or won't lock at all.": I agree, but this design was intentional. There are actually two jump buttons on the gamepad - one is purely for jumping (Button A) and another for both jumping and homing attack (Button B). Yes, the game did sometimes zoom to an enemy you should not hit. The correct reaction is then to press the jump button (i.e., Button A) rather than the homing attack button. This situation happens more frequently in the second half of the game, and "good" gamers should have started differentiating between the use of these two buttons.
Finally, the consistent observations among reviewers from different site is that reviewers in general continuously use Nintendo platformer's standard to review a Sonic game - lack of exploration, fiddling or complex control... I do not know when platformers are supposed to have strong exploration aspects. If a new game does not fit the windows of what a Nintendo platfromer should have (e.g., strong exploration, easy control) then a game is bad. In addition, reviewers seem to love games that they can play well but hate games that they do not. I believe that Nintendolife has missed the fact that Lost World, at least, was a technical platformer game rather than a Mario game, and thus the standard is not transferable from one to another.
While Nintendolife keeps saying or implying that Sonic games are consistently of low quality in various articles, it really does not resonate the opinions of sonic fans, as well as the opinions of other expert reviewers (e.g., Destructoid, Nintendo Insider, Famitsu). To people who love Sonic Lost World it was simply because the reviewers did not know how to play the game. Nevertheless, Nintendolife articles consistently acknowledges the consistent recent low-quality of sonic titles as A FACT rather than their subjective opinions (which are not unanimously shared by reviewers from other sites also).
It explains why people complain about your article. I just want to point this out as I found that Nintendolife's messages here constantly miss this issue and offends people who love Sonic games.
Gee! I have tons of undeemed codes from Wii games and Wii U games. Club Nintendo usually gave out crappy awards (except the MK one). I have been hoarding codes so that I can wait for good awards. I predict that Club Nintendo will continue to give out crappy awards to people until its demise, given that Nintendo is going to shut down Club Nintendo anyway.
@Cobra ... AND the trick to play Lost World is to press that button to rush Sonic through each stage, and occasionally release the button in a more dangerous area.
You need to know how to play Lost World so as to make Sonic play like Sonic. Professionals know how to play it competently.
@vio Lost World did not get universally good review because the game requires players to relearn how to play Sonic - you can make sonic plays like it in the past but requires rewiring of the control scheme on the player's part. Many reviewers give it the score of 8-9 out of ten - it is not bad if the players actually know how to play it.
@GloverMist That is the thing: metacritics give Game and Wario a 6 and it is an exaggerated score - IGN gives it a 5 and I would give it even a lower score. Without Gamers and Pirates the game is worth like 2 (out of 10).
@BensonUii Actually I do not agree with you. I liked the 2D levels in Lost World, although the 3D levels are fun and there are more exploration in those 3D levels. I generally like 2D games, and thought that Mario 3D World is better than the two galaxies.
@Chubblings No-item mode is not available on random online play. And, the good thing about Sonic Transformed is that the items do not overthrow the skills required to win the game.
@Grumblevolcano Not to mentioned that I have played 100 hours on the Wii U version and 200 hours on the PC version, but I have never tried the battle arena... I still have not mastered all the tracks on Sonic Transformed (Burning Depth track).
BigRedButton seems to have fixed the framerate issue in Sonic Boom. In some extremely fast sections, they deliberately slowed down the pace a bit so that players can react: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8hmzQg8JFI
Those people who dislike the speed of Sonic, play the speed level in Captain Toad: The control in Captain Toad speed level is actually worse than Sonic.
@BensonUii Sonic Transformed on PC is still played by many gamers online, and it is freaking cheap on Steam. The same game on Wii U is no longer played online.
Everyone who has played both Sonic Transformed and MK8 knows the problem in MK8 - the latter plays like a party game. The former emphasizes skills for winning while the latter emphasizes getting the right items by random drawing.
@GloverMist The fact that Nintendo dare to charge 35 bucks for a poorly made game such as Game and Wario is unforgivable, and it was simply a houch pouch of games on smartphone. And the most surprising thing is that people defended for it.
I finished Captain Toad already. The 3D stages are not the most fun stages but they are okay. The best stages are those specifically designed for captain toad.
I really crave for Shining Force 3 remake or even a new Shining Force. Fire Emblem is more strategic while Shining Force is more RPG. Shining Force cannot be replaced.
I have no interest in Kirby or Yoshi as the difficulty in these games are geared towards young gamers. Zelda or another 2D Metroid will be good.
@ted-k I got this game and there is only one glitch I found. The game is very very long: I spent 15 hours into it and I think I only finished half of the main campaign. I did not even mention side quest and additional quests.
@unrandomsam That is the complain I had with MK8. MK8 plays very much like a party game involving strong elements of randomness (i.e., getting the right items at the last lap). I feel bored by MK8 after a while. That is how I see Sonic Transform is far better because it is a technical race game that encourages players to really sharpen their skills through training.
I paid $60 for Smash and... it is not as exciting as Captain Toad... I guess you really need to be a fan of fighting game before liking Smash. To me, Smash is all about fighting with people — the one-player mode is pretty boring.
Shovel Knight is not the best platformer I have played. If you play PC, Jet Gunner is better.
@WaveyChristmas Sonic pinball actually had good reviews back then, but the first level of the game was a sewage drainage system. The graphics was dark and dull...
@B_Troof Gamepad is more gimmicky on Wii U than it has actual use. True, some games improves with the gamepad (e.g, Pikmin 3) but most developers make good games without the gamepads. What I dislike about it is that first, its actual use is sparse, and second, the battery runs out real fast. I do not want to pay another 40 for the controller.
However, I am looking forward if Nintendo includes something like the Kinect. I feel that Kinect is plenty of potential but is wasted on Microsoft.
Is Nintendo going to make the gamepad for wii u with a 3d screen? Almighty, please do not scare me.
Please Shining Force 3 - it is a contender to the Fire Emblem series, but with easier control and stronger focus on RPG than combat. When is it going to be ported to Wii U?
Captain Toad is pretty amazing - it is a relative lower budget title but the charm in the game is just irresistible, and it is going to last during the entire festive season!
I am trying hard to like Smash Brothers. Afterall I payed 60 on that game. Ign gave it like a perfect score. After playing it, diappointment... unless you really like the roster and characters in that game...
Genesis does what Nintendon't on Shining Force... Best RPG played so far - I still cannot stimulate any interests on Fire Emblem now after playing the last Shining Force game over 10 years ago.
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Re: Video: Check Out Kirby's Adventure Wii on the Wii U eShop
@SparkOfSpirit You can tell people who call this game hard are non-gamers, who are not used to playing video games with legit degree of difficulty.
Re: Video: Check Out Kirby's Adventure Wii on the Wii U eShop
Sega, when are you making another platformer? Mario, Kirby, and Donkey Kong all have a unique Nintendo feel in it. We need variations.
Re: Video: Check Out Kirby's Adventure Wii on the Wii U eShop
@Takerkaneanite6 Kirby games are usually easier than Mario Wii and Mario Wii U. They are geared towards young kids and young gamers.
Re: Video: Check Out Kirby's Adventure Wii on the Wii U eShop
After playing Kirby Epic Yarn (which you cannot die), it seems to me that Kirby is geared towards young kids and thus not interested in other Kirby games anymore. This game, without doubt, is for young kids.
Re: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Director Teases "Small Surprise" for All amiibo in the Game, Discusses Sources of Inspiration
if you have both captain toad and 3D world, then Captain Toad will make cameo appearance in a few places in 3D World and in the ending of 3D World. I know because I owned captain toad before 3D World.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Explains That The Legend of Zelda for Wii U Will Push the Hardware, But That the Series Has Always Been "Open World"
Windwaker is pretty open.
Re: Nintendo Download: 19th February (Europe)
@Grumblevolcano Arkham city is a good game, and it immerses you into the movie atmosphere.
Fire emblem wii, when are you coming to eshop?
Re: Sonic Boom Sales Struggle to Explode as Sega Clarifies Restructuring Plans
@Henmii Yeah... Sonic Lost World sucks because it requires players to have good gaming skills close to the end of the game.
Re: Video: Defy Gravity With These Sonic Lost World Glitches
Sonic Color is the best 2D sonic to me, and Lost World us the best 3D sonic.
I played Sonic Adventure 2 recently for the first time, and it is just not up to today's high standard. I played Sonic Adventure 1 fifteen years ago and it was excellent though. So I really don't know why people keep saying Lost World was bad.
Re: Video: Defy Gravity With These Sonic Lost World Glitches
I did not encounter one glitch while playing this game normally. Those glitches seem hard to pull off. I wonder how people find those glitches.
Re: Weirdness: BAFTA Appears To Have Clean Forgotten That The Nintendo 3DS Even Exists
What the article did not say is that Sega's Alien Isolation is leading for award nomination in BAFTA.
Re: GBA Classics Sonic Advance And Mega Man & Bass Arrive On The Japanese Wii U eShop Next Week
Sonic Advance 3 is the best and finding those chaos was fun. I really dislike Sonic Advance 2 - the boss fight was insanely difficult and the control during the boss fight is not the best in Sonic Advance 3. Sonic Advance 1 is not bad either.
Re: Sega's Digital Restructure Means 300 Staff Will Be Offered Voluntary Retirement
@FJOJR @PlywoodStick
You have missed some important words in your comments:
(I THINK) Sonic since the end of the Dreamcast era has been, on average, atrocious especially when you compare him to Mario.
(I THINK IT IS) the fact that they somehow messed up a Sonic 2D platformer with Sonic 4.
Please be careful with your Procrustean attitude: Not everyone likes Mario platformers and your attitude perfectly explains why every platformer nowadays feel similar. They all see Mario as standard and thus no one else makes something different. The view that you have (and exactly the view that reviewers share) explains why there is a stagnancy in the platformer genre. I personally enjoy the more recent sonic games than those in the Genesis genre, and from the comments here there are people agree with me. Please do not confuse between your subjective, personal opinions and the fact - your subjective opinions are not shared by everyone else.
Re: Sega's Digital Restructure Means 300 Staff Will Be Offered Voluntary Retirement
@Damo @DiscoGentleman @BLPs
Nintendolife's rating on Sonic games have been described as biased by some of the fans here. I have only played Sonic Lost World but not Sonic Boom, but let's review what the review said about Lost World.
"there's a ludicrous difficulty spike late on": Zelda 2 on NES has 2x or 3x difficulty spike within the first 5 minutes into the game but no one complains about it.
"we consider ourselves reasonably skilled gamers — though not exceptional — and we saw Game Over many times": I do not know when video games are supposed to be easy. So a new standard of evaluating a game is whether a reviewer can master the game or not? This kind of opinion (not limited to those on Nintendolife) was one of the examples that encourage easy games in the market.
"With a reliance on auto-lock-on, there are times where Sonic will zoom to an enemy you don't want to or can't hit, or won't lock at all.": I agree, but this design was intentional. There are actually two jump buttons on the gamepad - one is purely for jumping (Button A) and another for both jumping and homing attack (Button B). Yes, the game did sometimes zoom to an enemy you should not hit. The correct reaction is then to press the jump button (i.e., Button A) rather than the homing attack button. This situation happens more frequently in the second half of the game, and "good" gamers should have started differentiating between the use of these two buttons.
Finally, the consistent observations among reviewers from different site is that reviewers in general continuously use Nintendo platformer's standard to review a Sonic game - lack of exploration, fiddling or complex control... I do not know when platformers are supposed to have strong exploration aspects. If a new game does not fit the windows of what a Nintendo platfromer should have (e.g., strong exploration, easy control) then a game is bad. In addition, reviewers seem to love games that they can play well but hate games that they do not. I believe that Nintendolife has missed the fact that Lost World, at least, was a technical platformer game rather than a Mario game, and thus the standard is not transferable from one to another.
While Nintendolife keeps saying or implying that Sonic games are consistently of low quality in various articles, it really does not resonate the opinions of sonic fans, as well as the opinions of other expert reviewers (e.g., Destructoid, Nintendo Insider, Famitsu). To people who love Sonic Lost World it was simply because the reviewers did not know how to play the game. Nevertheless, Nintendolife articles consistently acknowledges the consistent recent low-quality of sonic titles as A FACT rather than their subjective opinions (which are not unanimously shared by reviewers from other sites also).
It explains why people complain about your article. I just want to point this out as I found that Nintendolife's messages here constantly miss this issue and offends people who love Sonic games.
Re: Weirdness: Hands Up If You Knew About the Super-Easy Button Combination to Resume Progress in Super Mario Bros.
I knew this trick, but never felt Mario 1 was fun enough for me to play, and then I forgot the trick later.
Re: Club Nintendo Rewards are Updated for January, Kicking Off Its Final Run
@jj87 I have a Xbox controller on my PC and I can get the game on my computer too?
Re: Club Nintendo Rewards are Updated for January, Kicking Off Its Final Run
I want super punch out, but it won't work unless yoi have a classic controller.
Re: Club Nintendo to Close, With Replacement Loyalty Programme Coming Later in the Year
Gee! I have tons of undeemed codes from Wii games and Wii U games. Club Nintendo usually gave out crappy awards (except the MK one). I have been hoarding codes so that I can wait for good awards. I predict that Club Nintendo will continue to give out crappy awards to people until its demise, given that Nintendo is going to shut down Club Nintendo anyway.
I hate you, Nintendo! You cheat me!
Re: Sonic Boom Gets a Whopping 1GB+ Update in Europe, and Fans Figure Out What it Did
@Cobra ... AND the trick to play Lost World is to press that button to rush Sonic through each stage, and occasionally release the button in a more dangerous area.
You need to know how to play Lost World so as to make Sonic play like Sonic. Professionals know how to play it competently.
Re: Sonic Boom Gets a Whopping 1GB+ Update in Europe, and Fans Figure Out What it Did
@vio Lost World did not get universally good review because the game requires players to relearn how to play Sonic - you can make sonic plays like it in the past but requires rewiring of the control scheme on the player's part. Many reviewers give it the score of 8-9 out of ten - it is not bad if the players actually know how to play it.
@GloverMist That is the thing: metacritics give Game and Wario a 6 and it is an exaggerated score - IGN gives it a 5 and I would give it even a lower score. Without Gamers and Pirates the game is worth like 2 (out of 10).
Re: Sonic Boom Gets a Whopping 1GB+ Update in Europe, and Fans Figure Out What it Did
@BensonUii Actually I do not agree with you. I liked the 2D levels in Lost World, although the 3D levels are fun and there are more exploration in those 3D levels. I generally like 2D games, and thought that Mario 3D World is better than the two galaxies.
@Chubblings No-item mode is not available on random online play. And, the good thing about Sonic Transformed is that the items do not overthrow the skills required to win the game.
Re: Sonic Boom Gets a Whopping 1GB+ Update in Europe, and Fans Figure Out What it Did
@Grumblevolcano Not to mentioned that I have played 100 hours on the Wii U version and 200 hours on the PC version, but I have never tried the battle arena... I still have not mastered all the tracks on Sonic Transformed (Burning Depth track).
BigRedButton seems to have fixed the framerate issue in Sonic Boom. In some extremely fast sections, they deliberately slowed down the pace a bit so that players can react:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8hmzQg8JFI
Those people who dislike the speed of Sonic, play the speed level in Captain Toad: The control in Captain Toad speed level is actually worse than Sonic.
Re: Sonic Boom Gets a Whopping 1GB+ Update in Europe, and Fans Figure Out What it Did
@BensonUii Sonic Transformed on PC is still played by many gamers online, and it is freaking cheap on Steam. The same game on Wii U is no longer played online.
Everyone who has played both Sonic Transformed and MK8 knows the problem in MK8 - the latter plays like a party game. The former emphasizes skills for winning while the latter emphasizes getting the right items by random drawing.
Re: Sonic Boom Gets a Whopping 1GB+ Update in Europe, and Fans Figure Out What it Did
@GloverMist The fact that Nintendo dare to charge 35 bucks for a poorly made game such as Game and Wario is unforgivable, and it was simply a houch pouch of games on smartphone. And the most surprising thing is that people defended for it.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th January (North America)
@joey302 Shining Force 3 was not fully released outside Japan. I finish it without knowing the langauge, and they are f**ing good!
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th January (North America)
@joey302 Shining Force 3 was not fully released outside Japan. I finish it without knowing the langauge, and they are f**ing good!
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th January (North America)
I have already bought Galaxy 2 on disc. I need Fire Emblem on Wii!
As usual, 3DS games and offers are better than those on Wii U. Please Nintendo!
Re: Video: See Captain Toad's Bonus Stages From Super Mario 3D World
I finished Captain Toad already. The 3D stages are not the most fun stages but they are okay. The best stages are those specifically designed for captain toad.
Re: Feature: Five Key Reveals We Want in 2015's First Nintendo Direct
I really crave for Shining Force 3 remake or even a new Shining Force. Fire Emblem is more strategic while Shining Force is more RPG. Shining Force cannot be replaced.
I have no interest in Kirby or Yoshi as the difficulty in these games are geared towards young gamers. Zelda or another 2D Metroid will be good.
Re: Video: Nintendo Minute Reveals Its Game of the Year Winners
@Captain_Toad Truth is above everything.
Re: Review: Darksiders II (Wii U)
@ted-k I got this game and there is only one glitch I found. The game is very very long: I spent 15 hours into it and I think I only finished half of the main campaign. I did not even mention side quest and additional quests.
Re: Video: Nintendo Minute Reveals Its Game of the Year Winners
@drewb0203 Agree. It is merely a party game. MK8 is for non-gamers.
Re: Satoru Iwata Highlights Frustration at Missed Wii U Features and Aims to Improve for Next-Gen Hardware
Please, get rid of the gamepad.
Re: "Sonic Runners" Rumours Prove True, But It's a Smartphone Game
@JeffreyG True, actually I like both Sonic Dash and the two Sonic Jump games... but I cannot get my interest in endless runners...
I don't understand all the hate towards modern Sonic games. I play Smash Brothers and the game is meh...
Re: Nintendo Download: 1st January (Europe)
@OneBagTravel Captain Toad is really good!
Re: "Sonic Runners" Rumours Prove True, But It's a Smartphone Game
@JeffreyG Sonic Dash is good if you like endless runner games...
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Mario Kart Game?
@unrandomsam That is the complain I had with MK8. MK8 plays very much like a party game involving strong elements of randomness (i.e., getting the right items at the last lap). I feel bored by MK8 after a while. That is how I see Sonic Transform is far better because it is a technical race game that encourages players to really sharpen their skills through training.
Re: Game of the Year: Nintendo Life's Reader Awards 2014
I paid $60 for Smash and... it is not as exciting as Captain Toad... I guess you really need to be a fan of fighting game before liking Smash. To me, Smash is all about fighting with people — the one-player mode is pretty boring.
Shovel Knight is not the best platformer I have played. If you play PC, Jet Gunner is better.
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Mario Kart Game?
I have only played MK1 and MK8. MK8 is of course far better, though I am already bored of it.
Re: Feature: Dreaming of a Nintendo Christmas - Tom Whitehead
@WaveyChristmas Sonic pinball actually had good reviews back then, but the first level of the game was a sewage drainage system. The graphics was dark and dull...
Re: Miyamoto: We Are Working On Ideas For The Next Nintendo System
@B_Troof Gamepad is more gimmicky on Wii U than it has actual use. True, some games improves with the gamepad (e.g, Pikmin 3) but most developers make good games without the gamepads. What I dislike about it is that first, its actual use is sparse, and second, the battery runs out real fast. I do not want to pay another 40 for the controller.
However, I am looking forward if Nintendo includes something like the Kinect. I feel that Kinect is plenty of potential but is wasted on Microsoft.
Is Nintendo going to make the gamepad for wii u with a 3d screen? Almighty, please do not scare me.
Re: Video: SEGA's 3D Classics Collection Now Available In Japan, Looks Delightful
Please Shining Force 3 - it is a contender to the Fire Emblem series, but with easier control and stronger focus on RPG than combat. When is it going to be ported to Wii U?
Re: Video: SEGA's 3D Classics Collection Now Available In Japan, Looks Delightful
Shinobi 3 is amazing EVEN TO TODAY'S STANDARD! I cannot think of other ninja games better than Shinobi 3, including those in the Ninja Gaiden series.
Re: Miyamoto: We Are Working On Ideas For The Next Nintendo System
Please scrip out the gamepad - it is pretty useless in most games.
Re: Feature: Dreaming of a Nintendo Christmas - Tom Whitehead
Captain Toad is pretty amazing - it is a relative lower budget title but the charm in the game is just irresistible, and it is going to last during the entire festive season!
Re: Nintendo Download: 18th December (North America)
Little Inferno, heard good things about this game.
Re: Please Sega, All We Want For Christmas Are These Amazing New 3DS Themes In The West
Shinning Force 3
Re: Feature: Time to Vote For Your Game of the Year Awards 2014
I am trying hard to like Smash Brothers. Afterall I payed 60 on that game. Ign gave it like a perfect score. After playing it, diappointment... unless you really like the roster and characters in that game...
Re: December's Club Nintendo Rewards Aim to Bring Festive Cheer
Yay! Let's see when they decide to end Club Nibtendo given the crappy games that they give out every month.
Re: Video: Your Heart Will Melt At This Sega Genesis Promo Created By A Son and His Gaming Mad Father
Genesis does what Nintendon't on Shining Force... Best RPG played so far - I still cannot stimulate any interests on Fire Emblem now after playing the last Shining Force game over 10 years ago.