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The first game is awesome although very short. Hopefully the second one has some ARPG elements in it.

@BLPs @ThomasBW84 I agree with you that Sonic Lost World is not a difficult game, but see what Nintendo Life has said in their review:

"this is a demanding, difficult game to play... The 3D environments are most troubling, as Sonic moves relatively quickly — even when not dashing — and lacks the precision and balance of a certain chubby moustachioed rival. Lining up a dash for a wall climb, making precision jumps and any moves that require accurately hitting a specific spot are fiddly to execute."

So skills are busted by reviewers nowadays. Sonic games always require some skills to control Sonic's speed. However, Nintendo Life's standard is that a game should be easy to pick up on control. A game requiring skilful control, on the part of the players, are no longer favoured well.

It seems that reviewers nowaday are just good at writing but not at games. I bet the same thing happens to Devil's Third.

@JadedGamer @Damo This is Not the first time that reviewers do not have enough skills when reviewing a game and trash the game afterwards. kgm, kgm... Sonic Lost World?

My guess is that Wii U right now is ABLE to run high graphics games like Batman Arkhan Knight or Witcher 3, but third parties will need to make a lot of work. Therefore, unless Wii U is at least as powerful as PS4 or Xbox One, the system will alleviate a lot of work of those third parties, which are likely to port games to the other two systems mentioned.

Nintendo probably has troubles in creating emultion software. For some reason, the emulators on PC somehow runs smoother than the one on Wii U. There are noticeable slowdown in Super Mario World on Wii u but not at PC, probably due to Nintendo having to develop a new set of emulators for each console.

Nintendo needs to ensure its new console having more mature content. Maybe letting players to turn the violence on and off. After playing Kife us Strange, I realized what kind of games is missing on Wii U. Second, the gamepad is gimmicky and takes up lots of power when operating.

Shenmue 1 on Dreamcast, Shenmue 2 on Xbox, and Shenmue 3 on Playstation? I guess it is a good idea to release Shenmue 1-3 again on the same platform, given that some people may not have played it before.

@errantrazor It was because Wii U cannot handle CryEngine 3, the engine that Sonic Boom is based on. It is the same case as in Project Cars.

Why do Sega want to release its games on Nintendo platform anyway. Nintendo gamers only purchase Nintendo games such as Mario and Wario regardless of its quality.

@SuperWiiU Not to far off from Game and Wario.

I remember this guy. He talked about developing this game for a while.

Mario and Sonic look fun - including lots of sports that interest me.

That will be such a smart idea: put android based os on Nintendo console can be a brilliant way to solve the lack of third party problem. Lots of people develop games on abdroid. I am sure that the prospective system will be much more powerful than Oyra. However, please scrab the idea of the gamepad. I have not seen many games that really use it.

@Moon Not that series, but I have enjoyed its other games such as Sonic Lost World and Alien Isolation.

@Moon Sega made this:

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (76):
http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/mario-sonic-at-the-olympic-winter-games

@Moon - You made a good point.

Although I tend to think how many bad PARTY games Sega and Nintendo made, based on their record. Sega made perhaps one (and I am sure that the game was supervised by Nintendo also) but Nintendo made three bad party games in the last two years.

@Moon I agree, because Nintendo has been so good at making party games in comparison:

Mario Party 10 (66):
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/mario-party-10

Wii Party U (65):
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/wii-party-u

Game and Wario (61):
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/game-wario

@Grimlock_King To N's credit, I don't think Nintendo released the console because they wanted to save money. But they spent too much money on the heavy gamepad that it did not work. They could have scrabed the gamepad to make a more powerful system, but they wanted to release an innovative piece of hardware and made more innovative games, jUST like what they did on Wii.

They also wanted backward compatibility. Therefore, they relied on a PowerPC CPU that was largely incompatible with Intel CPU. But that means, it will be difficult for PC programmers to port their games from PC to Wii U. Probably Nintendo did not forsee this issue at the beginning.

I did not read their original comment on Kickstarter, but if they did say "maybe" Wii U, then it should be subject to the funders to gamble whether it would arrive on Wii U or not.

I need Tetris Puyo Puyo right now. Please stop the region lock.

I won't buy resident evil games even on PC anyway. Fatal frame is coming out soon.

@ikki5 Finally there is somone having the brain to say something that makes sense. If most third parties flop, Nintendo cannot be free from the blame. Either it is a hardware issue, programming issue, or Nintendo's issue. Nintendo had promised a better third party support on Wii U. So far what are the results? Why use PowerPC based CPU in the first place. Everyone knows that it is going to cause hiccups when importing a game from an Intel based PC to Wii U.

@AugustusOxy Retro has only Nintendo in their mind while developing. Most third parties develop a game for multiple consoles, and thus third parties games almost always look worse.s

I am actually tired of hearing third parties having problems on Wii U. This kind of news have been repeating many many times. What is so different on Wii U that makes it nearly impossible to have a port? First is the CryEngine 3 from Sega, and now it is the Project Cars.

@Shiryu MK8 ran at 720p only, not 1080p.

@HopeNForever @ThomasBW84 And BigRedButton said they did not know the game going to be on Nintendo Platform. It was quite improbable because every new sonic game has appeared in Nintendo platform. If not on Nintendo platform which platform can it be? Xbox One? Or iPhone?

@Larrykoopa18 I agree with you. What I do not understand is why the CryEngine runs well in every single current console except Wii U. Is it something so special about Wii U that it could not handle CryEngine?

In addition, BigRedButton has probably more than one year (probably two years or more) to fix the game on Wii U. The three-game deal was signed well before the release of Sonic Lost World. In addition, before switching the game to Wii U, BRB said they finished a major part of the game. Therefore, more than one year is not enough for them to optimize the game's performance on Wii U?

@Grumblevolcano Your comment is right. As an example, when Wii U gamers see a game with the rating of 7 from Sega they say it sucks. When from Nintendo they say they still buy it no matter what.

Also, Nintendo Life keep trash talking Sonic Lost World in many article's. In one of their articles they even thought giving Sonic Lost World a rating of 7 initially a decision that was too generous. As a result of these kind of attitudes among Nintendo's and websites alike, third parties really do not have a chance to thrive on Wii U.

Not to forget that Sega also made Alien Isolation which sells over 3 millions since launch. Should it be released on Wii U it would only sells 3000.

@EllenJMiller The shining force inside me only says forgetting about the triangle.

Phantasy Star was such a classic.

@ottospooky Difficult to refund anything. Backers do not state which goal it is backing. As the developer is promising a copy on PC or other consoles, they do not seem to be a jerk.

@secret333 Is it possible that the developers gather funds and then just take the money away without delivering anything?

It was a good game.

I don't get why not just release Wii U in China. Xbox One has been released in China, and what is the need to release another specific console just for China?

To be honest, Just Dance series is better than Wii Fit U in exergames. Wii Fit U games can feel dull after playing them for a while every day, while dancing game is just fun and a good way to learn some dance moves to show off at Friday nights. There are always more advanced songs and moves to master even though you finish songs with the easiest moves.

Nevertheless, Dance Central Spotlight is just a far more superior product.

Sorry, UniSoft. Dance Central Spotlight killed you.

One of the best traditional JRPG.

@Funbunz Exactly! By now you should know their habit: stating that price will not go down, as in the case of Wii U console, and then cut the price and package a better game one month later. Never buy their console until one or one and a half year later. Loyal Nintendo fans never pay: you suffer from severe game drought anyway and they will never compensate due to your loyalty to them.

@liljmoore That is simple. As far as the install base is enough, then the quality of games matter. However, when wii u gamers only buy Nintendo games, together with a small install base, third-party titles will suffer.

Therefore, the necessary condition for a good game to sell is the install base and the characteristics of the gamers. Have you learnt the difference between a necessary condition and a sufficient condition?

@DiscoGentleman How about people who purchased Wii u a month before the price cut? N made no attempt to compensate.

@DiscoGentleman rich man.

Nintendo is not the first time doing things like this. Back to the earlier days on Wii u they keep saying that the price of the console will not drop, and then drop it one year after it launches, and then do not even compensate for early adoptors. Early adoptors have paid a higher price with severe game drought.

Bottom line: Never buy a Nintendo console early. The price will definitely drop even it says it won't.

@Linkstrikesback @liljmoore Sonic sold best on Wii just because of the large install base on Wii. No third party really earn much money on Wii u anyway - UniSoft and Sega are the biggest supporters and both flop. It is evident that Nintendo fans will buy only Nintendo games no wonder what the game quality is, e.g. wario, Kirby...

It is funny that people who has not played alien isolation criticized the game - typical response from fans and it should be no surprise.

@dkxcalibur Sega.should not plan anymore games on Wii U. Plan them on PS4, Xbox one, and the likes because they have a larger console base and thus higher sales. Alien Isolation sells 2.1 million units, all because the game was not a Wii U exclusive. Should it be Wii U exclusive it will sell only 2000 copies. Given that Wii u gamers do not like them anyway why bothers?

@FilmerNgameR Sega has Alien Isolation, new Yazuka, Fantasy Star Online and other new IPs - they are just not on Wii U.

@Quorthon Good if Nintendo makes a NX that is compatible with Wii U. Then, Wii U players can continue to play Wii U games while NX already enjoys a stable user-base at the beginning.

This game reminds me of the switching between 2D and 3D in Paper Mario.

@Tazcat2011 What would they even produce more garbage? So much for going third party saving them.

_{Please, no.-Morpheel}

If Nintendo use Intel-based CPU for every console, then it does not need to create a new emulator every time they launch a console - the quality of the emulator on Wii U is actually worse than the emulator on PC at times. The former has very obvious slowdowns at times.

Really need mature content. Nintendo games are catering a particular type of audience that Xbox and PS4 does not cover. However, Xbox and PS4 are catering a group of audience that Nintendo does not cover.