@roy130390 By that token though wouldn’t it have made more sense to have it here since we have both msx and nes games that are different. (Well at least mg 2:ss and snakes revenge are different anyway)
As I mentioned in the forum why can’t these be the best versions of the three (twin snakes, substance and subsistence)? I’m super excited to see snakes revenge acknowledged!
@AnVold I agree. They should’ve went in to this project to make a definitive version of the game with content from all three releases. I’ve heard “the answer” was not well implemented and was grindy but they could’ve just reworked it in the main game. Let’s not also forget they are also not having the female protagonist or her social links.
@Bass_X0
Yes there are several compilations but none have any of these games in them save for maybe Sega Genesis Collection. Regardless I don’t see adding the option to purchase the games being that intrusive to Nintendo. They could just have the games listed as dlc in their respective eshop pages.
@gaga64 I’m dint understand the argument that it’s no feasible to offer both. The way I see if they’d make money either way. In fact with them not offering them for sale they are missing out on quite a lot of potential money.
@burntends I do t get where you thought I said that shouldn’t be an alternative. I was simply saying that for many unless there’s a native port many are going to miss out on it due to the internet connection required that simply isn’t available. Which is why I’m a firm believer in physical for life and being able to own games rather than rent them as a service.
We don’t even have Prime 2 and 3 yet! No way we are getting it before the other two are released so I’m figure in three years time from now we will finally get Prime 4 if they release the other two each year.
I’m not really excited for either. I was hoping for a definitive version of P3 and it looks like that’s never going to happen. You have to buy a PS2 to play the answer and the journey and you have to play portable for the female protagonist. Should have been included in the remake.
@danemord Well that’s just dumb. They had the perfect opportunity to create a definitive version combining FES and 3P. If they were recreating it anyway why not give their fans what they wanted?
@RadioHedgeFund Or they could just offer the virtual console as an alternative service to switch online. They should treat it like gamepass in that you could rent and buy.
Too bad Nintendo doesn’t offer an alternative service so consumers can have easy access to buy or rent classic games and keep them moving forward on future Nintendo hardware!
I always wanted the Pokémon watch. I remember the commercial where the watch had animations and voices from the show. “The Pokémon time is……. It’s team rocket….we’re here for your Pokémon…..Pikachu I choose you…..it’s evolving into Raichu….I don’t want to end up as cat food….Pokémon catching sure makes you hungry!
No it’s not going to alter the fast growing cloud gaming market because cloud gaming is not growing fast. Seriously guys cloud gaming is not going to be the way of the future.
@Lysanderxx
No we need to nip this price hiking in the bud now or before too long they will start charging it across the board regardless of the amount of bells and whistles they add. They did a full visual upgrade and recorded new music for Live A Live and charged $50 not $100. For these 6 games we need to compare similar collections that have been released and the fair market price has been between 40-60. Not to mention I was able to secure my copy of LAL through a local brick and mortar unlike this which was only available for one day for all of 20 minutes.
And no the Cowabunga collection has a ton of new features added . The museum mode required a ton of research. The gameplay videos were also time consuming. The addition of a strategy guide and scans of the manuals. Online play for most games day one. New music on the title screen.
@-wc-
I just feel they overinflated the price (plus the shipping don’t forget so you are looking at around $100 for a copy either through PlayAsia or the SE store) compared to recent comparable collections that are sold for much cheaper. That and how the whole physical copy fiasco has been handled is really putting me off the collection. I was looking forward to having most of the FF series available at my fingertips on Switch so this is really a hard pass. Had it been $60 and available at my local brick and mortar I would’ve bought it day one.
@samuelvictor It would be nice if the other street fighter games other than 2 got more ports. The superior Street Fighter Alpha 3 Upper and Alpha 2 Gold haven’t gotten rereleased since the Alpha collection on PS2.
@-wc- The battle network collection has 10 games for 60 and they are of arguably comparable length to the FF games on offer for $15 less and is widely available in both physical and digital.
@-wc-
But as I mentioned earlier the Cowabunga Collection has more games in its collection for considerably less price as well as a multitude of extras. $75 is mighty steep considering the age of these games and they are far from the definitive expanded ports that have been previously released. So what if they had a new orchestral soundtrack?! They are probably just reusing what was recorded during the distant worlds tour that happened several months ago.
@Ralizah It’ll cost even more through Play-Asia (and it won’t even ship until June or July) and you can’t even get gold coins since it’s a different region. As popular as the FF series is and how badly they botched the physical they are sure to do a proper retail release.
@JohnnyMind If you aren’t getting the most out of the service then the savings of going in on a family plan is not really a savings. Myself I’m only interested in the games and nothing else. I’d rather buy them like I could with VC and forget all about the online service and the dlc that I’ve no use for.
The service is still not worth it. We need more options to play these these games rather than subscribing. I honestly see no reason why they can’t sell individual games. They are making money either way so what’s the big deal?!
How about all the above. They shouldn’t complain about consumers emulating them if they aren’t going to make them available to actually make money off of.
The best way currently is the Game & Watch. You pay for it only once, you can play it anywhere and anytime you want whether you are subscribing or have internet connection at all, have lost levels and ball included not to mention it doubles as a clock.
@Roibeard64 Other morally and most likely illegal alternatives you mean. There are still plenty of VC games that are now lost. New fans of these games are missing out on great games because of poor planning and corporate stupidity. “Oh this Steamworkd game on Switch has other games on other platforms that could enrich and enhance my newfound joy for this series?! Too bad I’ll never experience it since the only way to get it has closed even if I can buy a used (often very pricey) console it’s impossible.”
What if a great fire destroys countless priceless books and works of art? Maybe they weren’t digitized or copied would your argument still be it’s no great loss and say to move on that it wasn’t important?
@Roibeard64 You mean beyond the fact that now there are many games that are going to be lost probably never to see the light of day unless they fly under the Jolly Roger.
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Re: Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Makes The Jump From 3DS To Switch In 2024
How about the original Luigi’s Mansion? It’s still stuck on GameCube and 3ds both of which are like the ghosts in the mansion dead and buried.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 Is Coming To Switch This October
@roy130390
By that token though wouldn’t it have made more sense to have it here since we have both msx and nes games that are different. (Well at least mg 2:ss and snakes revenge are different anyway)
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 Is Coming To Switch This October
@Serpenterror
Msx doesn’t stand fir Microsoft. It was a Japanese pc from back in the 80s and 90s. Nothing to do with them.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 Is Coming To Switch This October
@roy130390
Twin snakes is the only one to not have a rerelease since it came out on GameCube. It’s high time for it.
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 Is Coming To Switch This October
As I mentioned in the forum why can’t these be the best versions of the three (twin snakes, substance and subsistence)? I’m super excited to see snakes revenge acknowledged!
Re: A New 'Persona 3 Reload' Online Listing Has Some Switch Fans Excited
@AnVold
I agree. They should’ve went in to this project to make a definitive version of the game with content from all three releases. I’ve heard “the answer” was not well implemented and was grindy but they could’ve just reworked it in the main game. Let’s not also forget they are also not having the female protagonist or her social links.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library Next Week With Fire Emblem
@Bass_X0
Yes there are several compilations but none have any of these games in them save for maybe Sega Genesis Collection. Regardless I don’t see adding the option to purchase the games being that intrusive to Nintendo. They could just have the games listed as dlc in their respective eshop pages.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library Next Week With Fire Emblem
@gaga64
I’m dint understand the argument that it’s no feasible to offer both. The way I see if they’d make money either way. In fact with them not offering them for sale they are missing out on quite a lot of potential money.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library Next Week With Fire Emblem
Again no option to just buy the games I want instead of paying them a yearly fee (which I don’t) for features and online play I never use.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
@burntends
I do t get where you thought I said that shouldn’t be an alternative. I was simply saying that for many unless there’s a native port many are going to miss out on it due to the internet connection required that simply isn’t available. Which is why I’m a firm believer in physical for life and being able to own games rather than rent them as a service.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
@burntends
I’m not really fussed over it I just wanted you and others with that mindset to understand that’s it’s simply not a good alternative.
Re: Capcom May Consider A Ghost Trick Sequel If There's Enough Support
If it gets a physical release I’ll support it but I already own it on DS so if not then I’ve no reason to.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
@burntends
No I live in a rural area. Internet for cloud gaming is impossible. I have my phone for when I’m at work but that’s about it.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
@burntends
Yeah that cuts me and a lot of others out.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
@burntends
Not everyone can play it in their browsers. Not everyone has a PC or if they do one with the specs to play it.
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Developer Retro Studios Is Hiring New Talent
We don’t even have Prime 2 and 3 yet! No way we are getting it before the other two are released so I’m figure in three years time from now we will finally get Prime 4 if they release the other two each year.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
@Saturn589
I’m with you. I’ll just wait until the inevitable expanded version fully reloaded comes out around a year or so after this comes out.
Re: Atlus Officially Confirms Persona 5 Tactica For Nintendo Switch
I’m not really excited for either. I was hoping for a definitive version of P3 and it looks like that’s never going to happen. You have to buy a PS2 to play the answer and the journey and you have to play portable for the female protagonist. Should have been included in the remake.
Re: Hands On: Disney Illusion Island Is A Spectacular Platforming Surprise
I’m not a fan of the art style. Gameplay looks solid though if only the characters looked better as in the other games in the series.
Re: Atlus Accidentally Reveals Two New Persona Games
@danemord
Well that’s just dumb. They had the perfect opportunity to create a definitive version combining FES and 3P. If they were recreating it anyway why not give their fans what they wanted?
Re: Atlus Accidentally Reveals Two New Persona Games
@UltimateOtaku91
Has that been confirmed that it isn’t combining elements from FES and 3P? I would assume this would be the definitive version.
Re: Sonic Origins Plus Physical Listing Says New Content Is "Downloadable Via Included Code"
Boo! Boo! Hiss! Hiss!
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Color, SNES & NES Library With Four More Titles
Still no option to just buy these games instead of renting them.
Re: Dolphin Emulator Steam Release "Indefinitely Postponed"
@RadioHedgeFund
Or they could just offer the virtual console as an alternative service to switch online. They should treat it like gamepass in that you could rent and buy.
Re: Dolphin Emulator Steam Release "Indefinitely Postponed"
Too bad Nintendo doesn’t offer an alternative service so consumers can have easy access to buy or rent classic games and keep them moving forward on future Nintendo hardware!
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 Announced For "The Latest Platforms"
It should be ports of twin snakes, substance, and subsistence.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library With Three Super Mario Games
I still say we need the option to purchase these individually.
Re: Random: Nintendo Apparently Wasn't A Fan Of Tiger & Hasbro's Pokédex Toy
I always wanted the Pokémon watch. I remember the commercial where the watch had animations and voices from the show. “The Pokémon time is……. It’s team rocket….we’re here for your Pokémon…..Pikachu I choose you…..it’s evolving into Raichu….I don’t want to end up as cat food….Pokémon catching sure makes you hungry!
Re: Microsoft's Activision Blizzard Acquisition Has Been Officially Blocked In The UK
No it’s not going to alter the fast growing cloud gaming market because cloud gaming is not growing fast. Seriously guys cloud gaming is not going to be the way of the future.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
@Lysanderxx
No we need to nip this price hiking in the bud now or before too long they will start charging it across the board regardless of the amount of bells and whistles they add. They did a full visual upgrade and recorded new music for Live A Live and charged $50 not $100. For these 6 games we need to compare similar collections that have been released and the fair market price has been between 40-60. Not to mention I was able to secure my copy of LAL through a local brick and mortar unlike this which was only available for one day for all of 20 minutes.
And no the Cowabunga collection has a ton of new features added . The museum mode required a ton of research. The gameplay videos were also time consuming. The addition of a strategy guide and scans of the manuals. Online play for most games day one. New music on the title screen.
Re: Poll: Which Was Your First 'Final Fantasy'?
7 was my first FF I played but 1 was the first I completed.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
@-wc-
I just feel they overinflated the price (plus the shipping don’t forget so you are looking at around $100 for a copy either through PlayAsia or the SE store) compared to recent comparable collections that are sold for much cheaper. That and how the whole physical copy fiasco has been handled is really putting me off the collection. I was looking forward to having most of the FF series available at my fingertips on Switch so this is really a hard pass. Had it been $60 and available at my local brick and mortar I would’ve bought it day one.
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@samuelvictor
It would be nice if the other street fighter games other than 2 got more ports. The superior Street Fighter Alpha 3 Upper and Alpha 2 Gold haven’t gotten rereleased since the Alpha collection on PS2.
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@samuelvictor
Thanks for clarifying that. The point still stands though you can still get the game on other collections and services on switch.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
@-wc-
The battle network collection has 10 games for 60 and they are of arguably comparable length to the FF games on offer for $15 less and is widely available in both physical and digital.
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@YANDMAN
It’s a port of championship edition so it’s the same.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
@-wc-
But as I mentioned earlier the Cowabunga Collection has more games in its collection for considerably less price as well as a multitude of extras. $75 is mighty steep considering the age of these games and they are far from the definitive expanded ports that have been previously released. So what if they had a new orchestral soundtrack?! They are probably just reusing what was recorded during the distant worlds tour that happened several months ago.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
@Wheatly
The Cowabunga collection had more than 6 games and was (correct me if I’m wrong) less than $50 for the whole collection.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
@Ralizah
It’ll cost even more through Play-Asia (and it won’t even ship until June or July) and you can’t even get gold coins since it’s a different region. As popular as the FF series is and how badly they botched the physical they are sure to do a proper retail release.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy I-VI Pixel Remaster - A Beautiful And Faithful Reimagining Of The Classics
I’ll wait for the inevitable major retail physical release at a smaller price point. SE royally screwed up with the physical release.
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@YANDMAN
Yes championship edition is in the SF anniversary collection. Just not the Genesis port. The og arcade.
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@JohnnyMind
If you aren’t getting the most out of the service then the savings of going in on a family plan is not really a savings. Myself I’m only interested in the games and nothing else. I’d rather buy them like I could with VC and forget all about the online service and the dlc that I’ve no use for.
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
The service is still not worth it. We need more options to play these these games rather than subscribing. I honestly see no reason why they can’t sell individual games. They are making money either way so what’s the big deal?!
Re: Talking Point: Which Other Mega Man Games Could Come To Switch?
How about all the above. They shouldn’t complain about consumers emulating them if they aren’t going to make them available to actually make money off of.
Re: Review: Mega Man Battle Network Legacy Collection - A Rock-Solid Compilation
It’s a shame this collection is missing some games in the series. What about Network Transmission and Battle Chip Challenge?
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Series Launches On Switch Later This Month
They need to restock the physical games and have them available elsewhere than online only.
Re: Feature: What's The Best Way To Play Super Mario Bros. In 2023?
The best way currently is the Game & Watch. You pay for it only once, you can play it anywhere and anytime you want whether you are subscribing or have internet connection at all, have lost levels and ball included not to mention it doubles as a clock.
Re: SteamWorld Series Creator Admits 3DS eShop Closure Is A Little Bit "Upsetting"
@Roibeard64
Other morally and most likely illegal alternatives you mean. There are still plenty of VC games that are now lost. New fans of these games are missing out on great games because of poor planning and corporate stupidity. “Oh this Steamworkd game on Switch has other games on other platforms that could enrich and enhance my newfound joy for this series?! Too bad I’ll never experience it since the only way to get it has closed even if I can buy a used (often very pricey) console it’s impossible.”
What if a great fire destroys countless priceless books and works of art? Maybe they weren’t digitized or copied would your argument still be it’s no great loss and say to move on that it wasn’t important?
Re: SteamWorld Series Creator Admits 3DS eShop Closure Is A Little Bit "Upsetting"
@Roibeard64
You mean beyond the fact that now there are many games that are going to be lost probably never to see the light of day unless they fly under the Jolly Roger.
Re: The 3DS & Wii U eShops Have Officially Closed, Purchases "No Longer Possible"
@Itakiteacher
Apple, Sony and Microsoft all offer both.