@27celsius They shouldn’t have to. It’s already been in there for years at this point. So you’re saying they should just have the move not work at all on her or just be a static image with no graphical change?
@27celsius
Still shouldn’t be that big of an issue. It’s an homage just like the various other Easter eggs and references found in the game. Like all the giant mecha and Kamen rider references.
@Pak-Man
The games were already rated years ago. They shouldn’t have to go through ratings again just because some people who aren’t even going to buy it may get offended. And may is the keyword “may” be offended.
@Maxz
That may be true but many times the intent is changed completely independently of what the company wants as has been documented several times on the inter webs in the last several months whete translators have come forward and basically said “yeah I didn’t like the original intent so I improved it you’re welcome”. If they can translate text faster and be closer to the original intent then using ai as a tool should mitigate this to practically none. I look at untranslated text and i totally could just make up what’s going on but I’d probably be no where near the original intent. I used the translate app on my phone and it gives me a rough idea of what it is saying then I can actually translate it based upon context to be close to the intent.
It’s long but he translates what the Japanese is saying vs what the English localization is. It’s completely different night and day. Let’s not forget either how Nintendo completely changed the intent of the Gravure themed dungeon in TMS to be about hip hop street fashion instead. It just seems like localizers are using it more to push how they want to tell the story vs the original creators intent. They should strive to keep it as close as possible without injecting anything new to the narrative. For the longest time I’ve watched anime with the dub on and the Japanese sub and boy I will tell you there is a major disconnect between what the English line is and the original.
@Maxz It shouldn’t give them so much creative license to change intent. A pun name being changed to be more relevant vs VAs and localizers completely changing the root context of something else (like this example from foxbusiness.com It was eventually revealed that Leonoudakis was responsible for the questionable subtitles. Online critics noted that Leonoudakis had also been a vocal defender of Seven Seas Entertainment's decisions to change the "I Think I Turned My Childhood Friend Into a Girl" character Hiura Mihate from a feminine male to a transgender female.)
@GarlicGuzzler It is related. Many times in anime and games during localization they completely change the original context and intent of the original to better suit an idealology that aligns with the localizers instead. If they are worried about AI taking over it’s only because these fringe cases continue without abandon. Consumers don’t appreciate this sort of censorship.
@Arehexes If it’s the author’s original intent I don’t mind. It’s when they completely change something (aka censoring or outright changing completely) to be woke or to just change it cause “oh think of the children that may be playing this mature game! How dare they have mature themes and boobs in a mature game!”
I gave it a 7. I completed it last night and I really couldn’t enjoy the gameplay. Too much exhausting every instance of listen, look or think without any sort of logic other than going through every option. I especially find it frustrating when you have to enter names in and you can’t access your notepad to check spelling or to confirm something! Heck I even got a game over since I screenshot information and went to check the album to double check and then I was given a game over of sorts befire allowing me to try again as a joke! So dumb!
Still no Castlevania Legends either. That’s the one game I really want to own despite its lukewarm reception! I mean it’s a (now non canon) Castlevania origin game! And a female Belmont! Shanoa isn’t a descendant.
@DripDropCop146 Don’t forget Super Human Samurai Cyber Squad which I believe is based on Gridman and the American original Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills!
All of them. I’ve never played rival schools and wonder why it’s not been ported at all. Also curious why Street Fighter Alpha 3 upper or alpha 2 gold haven’t been included in any of the collections so far!
@Serpenterror Why can’t they use more of the real estate in the box and put multiple carts inside? Say three carts (one a piece for Doom 16 and Eternal while 1-3 are altogether on another).
@babyThorman Same with game’s development. It also harms the employees. I can’t imagine putting in so much time, effort and passion into a project just to be cancelled and possibly laid off just to recoup some cash. Not every game is going to become a hit success but it should at least have some modicum of success vs canceling it and all the talent wasted on it.
@RygelXVIII Shouldn’t story have come first and gameplay second?
@RygelXVIII Yeah but at that point you’ve probably already got traction going from fans and have probably released teasers and early footage. From a consumers point of view this doesn’t endear us to the publisher when they just up and cancel projects for seemingly no valid reason. There shouldve been checks and balances in place way ahead of this. If things were looking as though they weren’t going to pan out earlier then halting a project then would’ve been fine. But having a project this far along with so much time and effort from an employee perspective (especially them as I’ve had to work so much overtime on jobs at my own work that never see the light of day) it’s a major slap in the face not to mention the consumer who would’ve bought it now has a sour taste in their mouth that may never fully recover. (Looking at you Konami and Capcom)
@Fiskern @RygelXVIII
Yeah but we’ve heard this same song and dance from publishers in the past where developers were nearly finished only to have the rug pulled out from underneath. The best example I can think of is when Capcom cancelled Megaman Legends 3 stating that it was on the grounds that there wasn’t enough support from the community which was a bold faced lie.
So why cancel them and lose the money? Makes no sense. Develop the games to completion that your employees are working hard on then sell them. You’ll make money. I swear sometimes you have to make the most absolutely nonsensical decisions if you want to be a member of management in any company.
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Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@27celsius
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@27celsius
They shouldn’t have to. It’s already been in there for years at this point. So you’re saying they should just have the move not work at all on her or just be a static image with no graphical change?
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@Edu23XWiiU
No idea what the comment was. Do continue.
Re: Mini Review: Sunsoft Is Back! Retro Game Selection (Switch) - An Intriguing But Limited Slice Of History
Needs to add the Batman games and Journey to Silius.
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@27celsius
Still shouldn’t be that big of an issue. It’s an homage just like the various other Easter eggs and references found in the game. Like all the giant mecha and Kamen rider references.
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@27celsius
Capcom made a jojo fighting game so it makes sense why she does (especially since I’ve heard Rose was based on the character)
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@27celsius
So? Plenty of references to other anime/manga in the MvC games as well and they didn’t get the chop.
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/08/27/capcom-to-censor-capcom-fighting-collection-2-will-alter-some-stage-visuals-and-certain-visuals-during-the-story-of-featured-titles/amp/
Possible things that will get changed.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda '80s Cartoon Series Gets DVD Re-Release
@N00BiSH
Do you mean do a series? They did in the 90s.
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@27celsius
They are removing several of Demitris midnight bliss attacks and hiding boobs and covering more risqué outfits.
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@Pak-Man
The games were already rated years ago. They shouldn’t have to go through ratings again just because some people who aren’t even going to buy it may get offended. And may is the keyword “may” be offended.
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@Edu23XWiiU
Doesn’t sound like that’s the case at all.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda '80s Cartoon Series Gets DVD Re-Release
Hey Excuuuuuse me princess!
Re: Capcom Outlines Changes To Each Game In 'Fighting Collection 2'
Censorship bleh! Should’ve just kept the original art and stage layouts! No one is gonna be offended by some boobs!
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@Maxz
That may be true but many times the intent is changed completely independently of what the company wants as has been documented several times on the inter webs in the last several months whete translators have come forward and basically said “yeah I didn’t like the original intent so I improved it you’re welcome”. If they can translate text faster and be closer to the original intent then using ai as a tool should mitigate this to practically none. I look at untranslated text and i totally could just make up what’s going on but I’d probably be no where near the original intent. I used the translate app on my phone and it gives me a rough idea of what it is saying then I can actually translate it based upon context to be close to the intent.
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@GarlicGuzzler @Maxz
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cqiMLj-dFrY
It’s long but he translates what the Japanese is saying vs what the English localization is. It’s completely different night and day. Let’s not forget either how Nintendo completely changed the intent of the Gravure themed dungeon in TMS to be about hip hop street fashion instead. It just seems like localizers are using it more to push how they want to tell the story vs the original creators intent. They should strive to keep it as close as possible without injecting anything new to the narrative. For the longest time I’ve watched anime with the dub on and the Japanese sub and boy I will tell you there is a major disconnect between what the English line is and the original.
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@Maxz
It shouldn’t give them so much creative license to change intent. A pun name being changed to be more relevant vs VAs and localizers completely changing the root context of something else (like this example from foxbusiness.com It was eventually revealed that Leonoudakis was responsible for the questionable subtitles. Online critics noted that Leonoudakis had also been a vocal defender of Seven Seas Entertainment's decisions to change the "I Think I Turned My Childhood Friend Into a Girl" character Hiura Mihate from a feminine male to a transgender female.)
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@GarlicGuzzler
It is related. Many times in anime and games during localization they completely change the original context and intent of the original to better suit an idealology that aligns with the localizers instead. If they are worried about AI taking over it’s only because these fringe cases continue without abandon. Consumers don’t appreciate this sort of censorship.
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@Gaviin
Hence why they need to do straight one to one translation instead of inserting memes and pop culture references to date the material.
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@GooseLoose1
My life as inukai sans dog. Kobayashis dragon maid. Prison school. TMS #FE encore.
Capcom is also removing imagery from its collections and lets not forget what they did to skull girls.
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
@Arehexes
If it’s the author’s original intent I don’t mind. It’s when they completely change something (aka censoring or outright changing completely) to be woke or to just change it cause “oh think of the children that may be playing this mature game! How dare they have mature themes and boobs in a mature game!”
Re: Bayonetta Star Jennifer Hale On The SAG-AFTRA Strikes: "AI Is Coming For Us All"
At least ai translations are more accurate than whatever ideology and political stances paid translators and localizers inject into the products.
Re: Yakuza Kiwami Might Only Be A "Download Distribution" On Switch
If it’s digital only I’ll pass. If they want to sell me the game they need to start by having it be both physical and digital at launch.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club?
I gave it a 7. I completed it last night and I really couldn’t enjoy the gameplay. Too much exhausting every instance of listen, look or think without any sort of logic other than going through every option. I especially find it frustrating when you have to enter names in and you can’t access your notepad to check spelling or to confirm something! Heck I even got a game over since I screenshot information and went to check the album to double check and then I was given a game over of sorts befire allowing me to try again as a joke! So dumb!
Re: 'Castlevania Dominus Collection' Brings Three DS Classics To Switch Today
@Sylamp
Yeah that’s the problem. I want to pay once for it not 20 or 50 dollars yearly to rent it.
Re: Yakuza Kiwami Brings The Dragon Of Dojima To Switch For The First Time
Physical? Is there a physical? If not I’ll pass.
Re: 'Castlevania Dominus Collection' Brings Three DS Classics To Switch Today
@Joker1234
The cowabunga collection is a mass market physical not tied to LRG.
Re: 'Castlevania Dominus Collection' Brings Three DS Classics To Switch Today
Still no Castlevania Legends either. That’s the one game I really want to own despite its lukewarm reception! I mean it’s a (now non canon) Castlevania origin game! And a female Belmont! Shanoa isn’t a descendant.
Re: 'Castlevania Dominus Collection' Brings Three DS Classics To Switch Today
Still no Rondo of Blood or Symphony of the Night.
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection Punches Up September Release
@Anti-Matter
Expanded roster nearly doubled and some adjustments.
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection Punches Up September Release
Why such a delay in the physical? Preorders for them have been going on since it was announced.
Re: Hands On: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Rita's Rewind - A Simple Brawler With Promising Enemy Variety
@DripDropCop146
Don’t forget Super Human Samurai Cyber Squad which I believe is based on Gridman and the American original Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills!
Re: Round Up: Every Switch Game Reveal & Trailer At Future Games Show @ Gamescom 2024
No option for “none of them”?
Re: Capcom Wants To Revive All Of Its Legacy Fighting Games On Modern Platforms
All of them. I’ve never played rival schools and wonder why it’s not been ported at all. Also curious why Street Fighter Alpha 3 upper or alpha 2 gold haven’t been included in any of the collections so far!
Re: Two Classic Jaleco Famicom Games Are Now Available On Switch
@canaryfarmer
It’s not free though. It costs $20 or $50 yearly so buying them is actually the better bargain.
Re: DOOM Anthology Revealed For Switch - Includes Six Games And Replica BFG, Pre-Orders Now Live
@SillyG
Cheaper? Well yeah but we want a complete physical game not a forced download.
Re: DOOM Anthology Revealed For Switch - Includes Six Games And Replica BFG, Pre-Orders Now Live
@Serpenterror
Why can’t they use more of the real estate in the box and put multiple carts inside? Say three carts (one a piece for Doom 16 and Eternal while 1-3 are altogether on another).
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Physical Edition Getting Wide Retail Release
Why did they make such a mess of this originally?
Re: Retro Re-Release Studio Digital Eclipse Says It's Up For A Collab With Nintendo
@YoshiAngemon
Yet they can put out another Disney owned IP game collection by Capcom in just a few months.
Re: Retro Re-Release Studio Digital Eclipse Says It's Up For A Collab With Nintendo
All I really want from them is the Disney Afternoon Collection. Seriously why is that collection not on switch yet?’
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Mega Man Zero 3
The eyes on the European one are off so bad!
Re: Nintendo Notes A Rise In Research And Development Costs As 'Switch 2' Looms
@AndyC7MK
Researching something costs nothing. It’s the development that’s costly.
Re: Nintendo Notes A Rise In Research And Development Costs As 'Switch 2' Looms
Development of course. Research? Not really.
Re: PSA: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP Switch Digital Pre-Orders "Opening Soon"
Hopefully this means the licensed anime costumes are still included.
Re: Review: SPY×ANYA: Operation Memories (Switch) - A Very Easygoing, Sometimes Awkward Anime Outing
Remember Anya goes on ootings. Seriously a dub would’ve been preferred.
Re: WayForward Is Reviving Its GBA Game 'Sigma Star Saga' For Modern Platforms
I still have the original cart I picked up a few years back. I hope they improve upon it.
Re: Square Enix And Nintendo Co-Dev Reports Losses After Multiple Projects Cancelled
@babyThorman
Same with game’s development. It also harms the employees. I can’t imagine putting in so much time, effort and passion into a project just to be cancelled and possibly laid off just to recoup some cash. Not every game is going to become a hit success but it should at least have some modicum of success vs canceling it and all the talent wasted on it.
@RygelXVIII
Shouldn’t story have come first and gameplay second?
Re: Square Enix And Nintendo Co-Dev Reports Losses After Multiple Projects Cancelled
@RygelXVIII
Yeah but at that point you’ve probably already got traction going from fans and have probably released teasers and early footage. From a consumers point of view this doesn’t endear us to the publisher when they just up and cancel projects for seemingly no valid reason. There shouldve been checks and balances in place way ahead of this. If things were looking as though they weren’t going to pan out earlier then halting a project then would’ve been fine. But having a project this far along with so much time and effort from an employee perspective (especially them as I’ve had to work so much overtime on jobs at my own work that never see the light of day) it’s a major slap in the face not to mention the consumer who would’ve bought it now has a sour taste in their mouth that may never fully recover. (Looking at you Konami and Capcom)
Re: Square Enix And Nintendo Co-Dev Reports Losses After Multiple Projects Cancelled
@Fiskern @RygelXVIII
Yeah but we’ve heard this same song and dance from publishers in the past where developers were nearly finished only to have the rug pulled out from underneath. The best example I can think of is when Capcom cancelled Megaman Legends 3 stating that it was on the grounds that there wasn’t enough support from the community which was a bold faced lie.
Re: Square Enix And Nintendo Co-Dev Reports Losses After Multiple Projects Cancelled
So why cancel them and lose the money? Makes no sense. Develop the games to completion that your employees are working hard on then sell them. You’ll make money. I swear sometimes you have to make the most absolutely nonsensical decisions if you want to be a member of management in any company.