Zelda is a given, so I picked shantae, smt#fe and the book of unfinished tales. The latter is an awesome-looking Fantasy point-and-click adventure that got great reviews. Day one for me, and I'd never even heard of it before seeing it on this list!
"The experience using a analog controller is totally different from using a keyboard and mouse combo. I tried xbox controller with Bulletstorm yesterday and wow, it is much more fun than using a keyboard and mouse combo. The aiming of xbox controller is such a hassle that it makes the game a bit more challenging and funner. With a keyboard and mouse or the Wiimote, the aiming is too acurate that it is not as fun. Also i get much less motion sickness from using an xbox controller than using a the mouse to look around. So for all the PC gamers that never try a console controller for their pc gaming, I suggest you get an xbox/playstation controller. I can see why console gamers argue that playing fps with analog sticks take more skill than a keyboard and mouse combo because it is kind of true."
I've been playing Starfox 64 recently, and the controls are much worse than I remember. They're oversensitive to the point where it's uncomfortably difficult to aim precisely; If you're aiming straight ahead in the standard view, most of the time the ship is in the way; and nowadays the lack of at least a second analogue stick for aiming feels hamstrung.
I haven't played Zero, but I'm looking forward to the two-screen gameplay and the extra control over the ship and aiming. Personally, I'm fine if it takes a bit of getting used to.
Also, some people hate motion controls with an irrational passion, and lump together splatoon gyro aiming with 'waggle for a button press' Wii controls. The two things are night and day.
Also, I've seen people online claim that twin analogue sticks are better than keyboard+mouse for FPSs, so I have learned to ignore other people's opinions when it comes to control schemes.
I'd like to know if people in this thread dissing/praising SF0's controls have actually played it for any length of time...
@PlywoodStick There's a raspberry pi 3 out nowadays, and they're emulating Dreamcast and PSP on it! None of the other models are anywhere near as petite as the Zero though - which obviously makes a difference when you're trying to squeeze everything into a Gameboy shell...
@PlywoodStick It's a raspberry pi model zero, presumably. 1ghz ARM single-core. Probably runs most SNES games near-perfectly, but carts with special chips unlikely to look so good...
Really nice job though - love the SD card in a cartridge detail!
edit: Yep, model zero right at the start of the video. That is absolutely the best raspi in a Gameboy I've ever seen. Stunning.
I could go for a far-post-apocalyptic Zelda, where nature has mostly come back, and whatever super-high-tech structures and artefacts are pretty much regarded as magic. It'd start off completely traditional, but end up with link in the bowels of the ancient planetary defence system base trying to reactivate some giant frickin' super laser. Because... erm... the moon was about to crash down? Nah', that'd be too far-fetched
The new rewards scheme is free stuff, which I can't complain about really. Regarding miitomo... well, I feel that it's only exciting because it's Nintendo doing a new thing. If it had been anyone else that made this app, no-one would give two hoots about it.
Unless miitomo releases in my region in the next week or so, It's not possible to get enough platinum points for warioware touched or the Zelda picross game
@MMSK786 I'm not exactly sure, but there was something in the Nintendo Account terms&conditions where if you link something and then unlink it, or link something and then delete something, it might delete all your eshop purchase records. It's got me paranoid so I'm not linking any NNIDs or Nintendo Account whatnots until the regions are confirmed, official and legit! And I recommend you do the same...
Hopefully this'll allow me to buy games without seeing the 'You don't have enough storage - go away!' message. I know I don't have enough storage, but I want to take advantage of a sweet deal. I'll clear space later, Nintendo. Stop bothering me!
@MMSK786 Don't do it! Wait until the official release. Just play with miitomo for now, maybe add your Twitter or Facebook, but please don't link your NNID until the region stuff is officially OK.
Aww, and I'd just reached the 'acceptance' stage. Now I'll have to go through it all over again when whatever the actual dumb controller idea is is revealed...
You all know that when the real controller is shown off, it'll rustle just as many jimmies as this, right?
@Shikinouta Will you take some high-resolution images of both sides of the board, please? or even put it on a scanner..? I'd like a better look at it..
The original super Mario kart is definitely basic by today's standards. Back then it was friggin' awesome though. It's probably the one I've played the most overall.
There are more things missing than just the LEDs and motors though- all those little shiny spaces with 'r12', 'd2', and 'c30' are for surface-mount resistors, capacitors and diodes.
I expect this will be mentioned on hackaday soon, and even if nobody does it, the comments section will no doubt be helpful. It's not the sort of thing a beginner should just solder things on and hope it works, but it looks like the sort of thing that a confident beginner could do by following a guide, even with just a cheap soldering iron and a few dollars worth of parts from ebay. It all depends on whether the software supports it or not...
@Xenocity If a disc costs 3 cents in bulk, and a cartridge costs 3 dollars in bulk, that's a 10,000% increase. Which is huge, in bulk or not...
Also, I doubt people would hate so much inputting a code to get 60 gold My Nintendo points more than they'd hate not getting any gold points at all. Just sayin'...
Even though I get almost all of my entertainment digital nowadays, I can see no good reason for consumers to want console games to be download-only. We'll get shafted all sorts of ways - higher prices, games getting pulled and becoming completely unavailable, stricter region-locking, inability to lend/swap/resell games, inability in general to use on multiple devices. They're not small problems...
I really feel that the existence of physical media keeps Nintendo honest, in a way.
I'd be content if NX went back to carts, with a nice box to put on your shelf and a printed manual. They'd be lots more expensive to produce than discs, and obviously digital would be cheapest , but the extra compactness and ruggedness of carts would justify the higher asking price. If they also lowered the price of the download version to probably about half of the physical's RRP, then I think the system could work. Unless they did something stupid like only releasing $120 collectors physical editions, of course...
I also think that the 'loyalty scheme' should apply to physical copies. It's not that difficult, inputting a code...
I'd also just like to point out that motion controls aren't gone - they've evolved into VR controllers. In this context, motion controls are better than ever...
I remember when visiting the Nintendo website gave you 5 star points per day. I also remember when all of my points disappeared at once because I didn't read the fine print in an email they had sent me 6 months earlier.
I won't know how useful this will be to me until I've had it for a while...
If the NX launches this holiday season, then the PlayStation VR will definitely eat into it's sales to some degree. People who have already owned a PS4 for a couple of years and are in the mood for something different for chrimbo are now having to decide between VR and NX.
There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what VR actually is in this thread, with some saying they tried it in the 90s and it was no good, some saying they tried Google cardboard and it was no good, some saying motion controls were nothing but a fad and so is this, some saying you need two eyes to use it, some saying motion sickness is absolutely unavoidable, some saying that having every game being first-person would be dumb, and some saying it's too expensive to ever take off. All of those reasons are irrelevant, untrue, or just temporary problems.
As you can tell, I'm excited about the tech, although I seriously doubt I'll be an early adopter - at the moment it's out of my price range. I'll probably join in when I can get a complete system for the price of a 3DS XL.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned, which will no doubt be even more polarising, is this fascinating and relevant research about just how surprisingly easy it is to trick the brain into giving you the illusion that you are somewhere/someone else, and even make you think that you have 3 arms. The cognitive kludges that these experiments expose are analogous to the way that the brain percieves the rapidly flickering static images produced by movies on film as movement. You know intellectually that the movie projector is showing you nothing but a lot of still photographs, right? But you can't help seeing the movement, because that's just the way the brain works. Well, in well-done VR, you'll obviously know intellectually that you're just sitting on your sofa, but you'll instinctively percieve it as being inside the game world. That's the paradigm shift that someone mentioned above. http://ki.se/en/news/brain-scan-reveals-out-of-body-illusion
My final thought: I wonder how many of the naysayers would/will completely change their tune if/when Nintendo reveals their own VR whatever...
Kind of like I said in the other thread, this will be great for my 3-yr-old. I won't be using it myself though. I only used the invincibility leaf once in super Mario 3d world, by accident, because I didn't know what it was...
@AshFoxX "...I still have a desire to create Star Fox in a form that's maybe better suited to the current age, where people have different competing demands for their time, where you'd be able to play maybe in shorter bursts in a more compact form." Sounds perfect for a handheld release. 3DS still has a year or two left in it that we know of, plenty of time to make a Star Fox game with these guidelines. That being said, also a great idea for an NX launch title if it really is a hybrid handheld and home console."
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Re: Review: Asdivine Hearts (Wii U eShop)
I like the look of this but it's way cheaper on android...
Re: Sssnakes Aims to Add a Modern Touch to the Original Mobile Gaming Hit
With Snake, it's all about the speed and responsiveness of the controls.
Re: SpongeBob SquarePants is the Theme for the Next Splatoon Splatfest
Spongebob and Callie would make a cute couple <3
Re: Weirdness: A New Animation is Found in Super Mario Bros. 3
I didn't know about this.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Is Planning A Series Of Wii U Remasters For NX
I'd buy splatoon again if it lets me play online alongside/against my missus/the kids on the Wii U on another TV in the same room
Re: Feature: The Biggest Wii U Games of 2016 - Spring Edition
Zelda is a given, so I picked shantae, smt#fe and the book of unfinished tales. The latter is an awesome-looking Fantasy point-and-click adventure that got great reviews. Day one for me, and I'd never even heard of it before seeing it on this list!
Re: Nintendo Download: 14th April (Europe)
Just lost reavers for download for me this week, though I reckon I'll be getting a physical copy of Zelda wwhdometime soon at that price
Re: Talking Point: The Great Star Fox Zero Controls Debate Highlights Important Lessons
@Monado_III. I know, right? Check it out:
"The experience using a analog controller is totally different from using a keyboard and mouse combo. I tried xbox controller with Bulletstorm yesterday and wow, it is much more fun than using a keyboard and mouse combo. The aiming of xbox controller is such a hassle that it makes the game a bit more challenging and funner. With a keyboard and mouse or the Wiimote, the aiming is too acurate that it is not as fun. Also i get much less motion sickness from using an xbox controller than using a the mouse to look around. So for all the PC gamers that never try a console controller for their pc gaming, I suggest you get an xbox/playstation controller. I can see why console gamers argue that playing fps with analog sticks take more skill than a keyboard and mouse combo because it is kind of true."
Brain asplode.
Re: Talking Point: The Great Star Fox Zero Controls Debate Highlights Important Lessons
I've been playing Starfox 64 recently, and the controls are much worse than I remember. They're oversensitive to the point where it's uncomfortably difficult to aim precisely; If you're aiming straight ahead in the standard view, most of the time the ship is in the way; and nowadays the lack of at least a second analogue stick for aiming feels hamstrung.
I haven't played Zero, but I'm looking forward to the two-screen gameplay and the extra control over the ship and aiming. Personally, I'm fine if it takes a bit of getting used to.
Also, some people hate motion controls with an irrational passion, and lump together splatoon gyro aiming with 'waggle for a button press' Wii controls. The two things are night and day.
Also, I've seen people online claim that twin analogue sticks are better than keyboard+mouse for FPSs, so I have learned to ignore other people's opinions when it comes to control schemes.
I'd like to know if people in this thread dissing/praising SF0's controls have actually played it for any length of time...
Re: Random: This Game Boy Zero Uses a Raspberry Pi for Lovely Retro Gaming
@PlywoodStick There's a raspberry pi 3 out nowadays, and they're emulating Dreamcast and PSP on it! None of the other models are anywhere near as petite as the Zero though - which obviously makes a difference when you're trying to squeeze everything into a Gameboy shell...
Re: Random: This Game Boy Zero Uses a Raspberry Pi for Lovely Retro Gaming
@PlywoodStick It's a raspberry pi model zero, presumably. 1ghz ARM single-core. Probably runs most SNES games near-perfectly, but carts with special chips unlikely to look so good...
Really nice job though - love the SD card in a cartridge detail!
edit: Yep, model zero right at the start of the video. That is absolutely the best raspi in a Gameboy I've ever seen. Stunning.
Re: Art: If Nintendo Ever Took Zelda Into The Future, We'd Want Link To Look Like This
I could go for a far-post-apocalyptic Zelda, where nature has mostly come back, and whatever super-high-tech structures and artefacts are pretty much regarded as magic. It'd start off completely traditional, but end up with link in the bowels of the ancient planetary defence system base trying to reactivate some giant frickin' super laser. Because... erm... the moon was about to crash down? Nah', that'd be too far-fetched
Re: Nintendo Shuts Down Browser-Based '3D' Legend of Zelda Demo
Willobee is right, unfortunately.
Re: GoldenEye 007 Director Martin Hollis Found A Weakness In The N64 That Almost Caused Another Delay
Google 'ps1 z buffer' for lots of talk on why the ps1's polygons jumped around like that...
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of My Nintendo and Miitomo?
The new rewards scheme is free stuff, which I can't complain about really. Regarding miitomo... well, I feel that it's only exciting because it's Nintendo doing a new thing. If it had been anyone else that made this app, no-one would give two hoots about it.
BTW, how do I change my avatar pic pls?
Re: Splatoon to Arrive on 3DS Under the Name "Splatoon Legends"
I believe it, LAN adapter and all!
Re: My Nintendo Platinum Points Are Being Gifted to Former Club Nintendo Members in North America
I got some! woo!
Re: Splatoon to Arrive on 3DS Under the Name "Splatoon Legends"
I BELIEVE!
Re: Review: Star Fox 64 (Wii U eShop / N64)
Looks like this will be my first VC purchase!
Re: Guide: Getting Started With My Nintendo
Unless miitomo releases in my region in the next week or so, It's not possible to get enough platinum points for warioware touched or the Zelda picross game
Re: My Nintendo and Miitomo to Launch in the West on 31st March
@MMSK786 I'm not exactly sure, but there was something in the Nintendo Account terms&conditions where if you link something and then unlink it, or link something and then delete something, it might delete all your eshop purchase records. It's got me paranoid so I'm not linking any NNIDs or Nintendo Account whatnots until the regions are confirmed, official and legit! And I recommend you do the same...
Re: Talking Point: My Nintendo and Its Account System Start The Process of Unifying Platforms
Hopefully this'll allow me to buy games without seeing the 'You don't have enough storage - go away!' message. I know I don't have enough storage, but I want to take advantage of a sweet deal. I'll clear space later, Nintendo. Stop bothering me!
Re: My Nintendo and Miitomo to Launch in the West on 31st March
@MMSK786 Don't do it! Wait until the official release. Just play with miitomo for now, maybe add your Twitter or Facebook, but please don't link your NNID until the region stuff is officially OK.
Re: Official Miitomo Site Reiterates March 2016 Release
I heard there were complaints about loading times. Maybe they're waiting until they've got an improved version to release...
Re: Fan-Made HD Twilight Princess Update "On Hiatus" Following YouTube Takedowns By Nintendo
Stay classy, Nintendo.
Re: Editorial: A Week When NX 'Leaks' Were Thankfully Fake and New Tricks Were Used
Oh, I thought that was 'Wii Potty Training'...
Re: Feature: Thoughts on the 3DS as It Reaches Its Fifth Anniversary
Yep. That store assistant wanted them for himself...
Re: Fooling The World With a 3D Printed NX Controller
Aww, and I'd just reached the 'acceptance' stage. Now I'll have to go through it all over again when whatever the actual dumb controller idea is is revealed...
You all know that when the real controller is shown off, it'll rustle just as many jimmies as this, right?
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo NX Controller Images Surface and Set the Web Alight
best comment in the neogaf thread:
"What if you place the control into a VR headset and control the sticks with your eyeballs"
XD
Re: 80's Overdrive is Coming to the 3DS
Radical!
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo NX Controller Images Surface and Set the Web Alight
Is it an ellipse, with the sticks at the focal points?
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo NX Controller Images Surface and Set the Web Alight
BUT WHY IS IT OVAL?
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo NX Controller Images Surface and Set the Web Alight
@JaxonH If it has haptic feedback on the sticks, then they can certainly be configured to feel/act like 4 or 8 (or two or three) way joysticks..
Re: Looks Like The Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad Was Supposed To Have LEDs And Force Feedback
@Shikinouta Will you take some high-resolution images of both sides of the board, please? or even put it on a scanner..? I'd like a better look at it..
Re: Feature: Ten Game Boy Advance Games You Should Play
Golden Sun! Golden Sun 2!
Minish Cap best 2d Zelda.
Iridion II beautiful shmup from Shin'en.
Mariokart Super Circuit get the hell out of here you stink!
Re: Random: Fan Ports Super Mario Kart to HTML5
The original super Mario kart is definitely basic by today's standards. Back then it was friggin' awesome though. It's probably the one I've played the most overall.
Re: Looks Like The Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad Was Supposed To Have LEDs And Force Feedback
Maybe they took it out because of the Wii U's infamously underpowered USB ports..?
Re: Looks Like The Pokkén Tournament Pro Pad Was Supposed To Have LEDs And Force Feedback
There are more things missing than just the LEDs and motors though- all those little shiny spaces with 'r12', 'd2', and 'c30' are for surface-mount resistors, capacitors and diodes.
I expect this will be mentioned on hackaday soon, and even if nobody does it, the comments section will no doubt be helpful. It's not the sort of thing a beginner should just solder things on and hope it works, but it looks like the sort of thing that a confident beginner could do by following a guide, even with just a cheap soldering iron and a few dollars worth of parts from ebay. It all depends on whether the software supports it or not...
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
Going all-digital on PC is fine, because it's an open system...
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
@Xenocity If a disc costs 3 cents in bulk, and a cartridge costs 3 dollars in bulk, that's a 10,000% increase. Which is huge, in bulk or not...
Also, I doubt people would hate so much inputting a code to get 60 gold My Nintendo points more than they'd hate not getting any gold points at all. Just sayin'...
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Wants Us to Download More and Move On From Discs - Will It Work?
Even though I get almost all of my entertainment digital nowadays, I can see no good reason for consumers to want console games to be download-only. We'll get shafted all sorts of ways - higher prices, games getting pulled and becoming completely unavailable, stricter region-locking, inability to lend/swap/resell games, inability in general to use on multiple devices. They're not small problems...
I really feel that the existence of physical media keeps Nintendo honest, in a way.
I'd be content if NX went back to carts, with a nice box to put on your shelf and a printed manual. They'd be lots more expensive to produce than discs, and obviously digital would be cheapest , but the extra compactness and ruggedness of carts would justify the higher asking price. If they also lowered the price of the download version to probably about half of the physical's RRP, then I think the system could work. Unless they did something stupid like only releasing $120 collectors physical editions, of course...
I also think that the 'loyalty scheme' should apply to physical copies. It's not that difficult, inputting a code...
Re: Video: Learn About the Quirky History of Wii Sports and Its Role in Bringing Us Mii Characters
Miis are BORING.
Re: Miitomo Makes Storming Debut on iOS in Japan
If it comes out at all here in Finland, then I'll be impressed...
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy
One consequence of this is that there will be a pressure for cheap indie games to have their prices bumped up to just over the threshold...
Re: Talking Point: Sony's PlayStation VR Launch Adds Pressure to Nintendo's Holiday - and Perhaps NX - Plans
I'd also just like to point out that motion controls aren't gone - they've evolved into VR controllers. In this context, motion controls are better than ever...
Re: Feature: Breaking Down the My Nintendo Loyalty Economy
I remember when visiting the Nintendo website gave you 5 star points per day. I also remember when all of my points disappeared at once because I didn't read the fine print in an email they had sent me 6 months earlier.
I won't know how useful this will be to me until I've had it for a while...
Re: Talking Point: Sony's PlayStation VR Launch Adds Pressure to Nintendo's Holiday - and Perhaps NX - Plans
If the NX launches this holiday season, then the PlayStation VR will definitely eat into it's sales to some degree. People who have already owned a PS4 for a couple of years and are in the mood for something different for chrimbo are now having to decide between VR and NX.
There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what VR actually is in this thread, with some saying they tried it in the 90s and it was no good, some saying they tried Google cardboard and it was no good, some saying motion controls were nothing but a fad and so is this, some saying you need two eyes to use it, some saying motion sickness is absolutely unavoidable, some saying that having every game being first-person would be dumb, and some saying it's too expensive to ever take off. All of those reasons are irrelevant, untrue, or just temporary problems.
As you can tell, I'm excited about the tech, although I seriously doubt I'll be an early adopter - at the moment it's out of my price range. I'll probably join in when I can get a complete system for the price of a 3DS XL.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned, which will no doubt be even more polarising, is this fascinating and relevant research about just how surprisingly easy it is to trick the brain into giving you the illusion that you are somewhere/someone else, and even make you think that you have 3 arms. The cognitive kludges that these experiments expose are analogous to the way that the brain percieves the rapidly flickering static images produced by movies on film as movement. You know intellectually that the movie projector is showing you nothing but a lot of still photographs, right? But you can't help seeing the movement, because that's just the way the brain works. Well, in well-done VR, you'll obviously know intellectually that you're just sitting on your sofa, but you'll instinctively percieve it as being inside the game world. That's the paradigm shift that someone mentioned above.
http://ki.se/en/news/brain-scan-reveals-out-of-body-illusion
My final thought: I wonder how many of the naysayers would/will completely change their tune if/when Nintendo reveals their own VR whatever...
Re: Editorial: Accessibility Through Optional 'Invincibility' Buffs Can Only Be a Positive for Nintendo
Kind of like I said in the other thread, this will be great for my 3-yr-old. I won't be using it myself though. I only used the invincibility leaf once in super Mario 3d world, by accident, because I didn't know what it was...
Re: Soapbox: It's too Early to Judge Paper Mario: Color Splash
FWIW, I agree with Flaygle. Lots of Nintendo franchises have been declining in quality recently...
Re: Star Fox Zero Will Include An Invincible Mode For Inexperienced Players
@AshFoxX
"...I still have a desire to create Star Fox in a form that's maybe better suited to the current age, where people have different competing demands for their time, where you'd be able to play maybe in shorter bursts in a more compact form."
Sounds perfect for a handheld release. 3DS still has a year or two left in it that we know of, plenty of time to make a Star Fox game with these guidelines. That being said, also a great idea for an NX launch title if it really is a hybrid handheld and home console."
Umm, I think he's talking about mobile...