Update:
Occasional Nintendo Life contributor Liam Robertson has passed us some information from a source that has access to prototype hardware for the 'NX'. They've advised that the images 'aren't legit', and we're certainly inclined to have faith in that source. Of course, as is the nature with rumours they are all to be taken with a grain of salt.
Original Article:
The apparent 'leaks' of the Nintendo NX have stepped up a notch again, with Reddit once again to the fore. What we have are two images that closely resembles the unit supposedly leaked late last week, except this time the unit is in black and the images are of a far higher quality.
As you can see below, once again it's a close follow of a free-form screen patent from late 2015; that could be considered a red flag. Final products don't always match up so closely to patent illustrations; the patent in question was for hardware with a screen that goes beyond the control nubs, with shoulder inputs and various touch / motion inputs.


'Perkele37' was the poster on Reddit, and said the following along with the images.
- Only the upper 'nubs' of the sticks move. The bottom part is static (kind of like the circle pad, but it moves along the bottom 'sphere'.
- The rollers on the top feel and look pretty much identical to a mouse scroll-wheel. Though I do don't believe this will be the final design.[sic]
- Haptic feedback is feels like Apples 'taptic' engine.[sic] Not like regular rumble.
- 3.5mm headphone jack on the bottom
We were very unsure of the original leak, but with quality images and the general environment here we're less sure of writing them off. The relation to the patent and some mutterings around the web suggest that the images do portray what some believe to be the general focus of the NX hardware. On the flipside this could be a real product that's not actually a Nintendo development kit or prototype; it could be a controller / handset from another manufacturer that's being posed as the NX.
There's no definitive proof, but there's certainly a sense online that the leaked images of this controller as NX hardware could be gaining credibility.
What do you think, could this be the real deal?
[source reddit.com]
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That's not what I look like!
if true it's gonna be the dev kit version most likely the final one we'll see will be different, but i'll wait to hold the thing before cast judgement on it. people gonna hate because it's different of cause, but again it could wind up being the thing Sony copy next and everyone is whoa it's amazing...
I feel sick
Where are the buttons? Buttons are how you feel your inputs. Without them, this is just a tablet with nubs!
I wonder how comfortable that is to hold? It looks smallish.
It's either real or an incredibly well made fake. The only thing that bother me are the camera at the bottom and the huge "CONFIDENTIAL PROPERTY" sticker. The former seems very misplaced and the latter trying to be the real deal, but I could be wrong.
In any case, only time will tell.
Well... I don't know what to make of this.
It doesn't look totally unrealistic... yet I can't imagine it as a controller made by Nintendo.
If it is a real deal, I'm not too terrified though. The concept has some fantastic ideas; free-form screen, haptic feedback and "rollers" could prove to be something fresh and exciting. If this was an actual controller, Nintendo would probably release a Pro Controller anyway.
At least it's shiny and pretty!
Nintendo is REALLY going to have to work hard to convince me to move on from the Wii U if this is the case. And just shutting down the online services won't work this time.
If this thing really is the NX controller, it's been fun knowing you, Nintendo...
God I hope not. Where are the buttons?!?!?
but only time will tell.
Above all else Nintendo safeguards its unique right to disappoint its fans. I doubt they would allow others to disappoint us through leaks. I think these are fake and that Nintendo will disappoint us in unforeseeable ways at e3.
If this does turn out to be the real deal, I hope it ships with a "comfort dock" with handles for home gaming sessions. It would then look like this only when you take it on the go.
If its real then its only a prototype and only a a stand in for the devs. Final one will accommodate to the problems the devs say and they will improve on it
I don't know. I mean, if it IS the controller, it's definitely not a final prototype. It might very well be the dev kit controller for programming purpose. But I would expect the NX controller have at least hand grips or something to offset the oval shape. But I guess we'll all find out soon enough.
Looks like could be reason why nx is portable I'd judge it once holding it like the look tho just depends how comfortable and how easily accessible the buttons are
EURGH
No buttons, no buy. I don't care how many games you put on it.
I hope it's fake, because I don't want that controller! Give me a controller with proper buttons please...
@allav866 I think that's the point actually. If you're reading the name NX as the letter 'X' I think it's wrong. Instead, N(cross) which is the point of their new system. To be able to take it with you and possibly, be a phone too.
This just doesn't look "Nintendo" at all. No buttons.. Not even shoulder buttons? And why in the heck would you want a headphone jack for a console controller? (Unless you can also use the system portably which I guess is a kind of cool "hybrid" feature). I've never been one to delve into Nintendoom, but Nintendo is walking a very fine line recently, and I'd hate to see them blow the NX...because if they do, that would mean a likely swap to software-only, and we know how that went for Sega.
That is an ugly controller/system. The lack of buttons is not something I am interested in. It is part of the reason why I hate gaming on a phone, touch controls just do not work well.
@rishisquid I couldn't agree more. Surely someone at Nintendo has played a smart phone game with no buttons and realized how crappy it is.
Ok and how do these people get this system, don't you think Nintendo would have figured this out by now and not give controllers away.
If this is real, it will be interesting to see how it's used. That said, I don't know how I feel about the virtual buttons. Physical buttons are always better, but I don't think Nintendo would make a controller with sub-par controls (they know better), so maybe they've found a way to make them work.
If this is the handheld as well as, or instead of, the controller, I'll miss the clam shell design Nintendo's been using since the SP. It really helps with portability.
Nintendo needs to end the silence already.
@WreckItRyan Off-TV -play justifies a headphone jack. Wii U's GamePad has it (and it's convenient if you want to watch Netflix/Youtube without making much noise).
I guess the only thing left to do is compare the dimensions to the previous image. If things line up. I'm pretty sure we can confirm the leak.
I also will hold out on passing any judgment until we have official details...even if this is real. However, I agree with most here that it looks like a poorly designed device. That oval shape seems impossible to hold comfortably and the lack of traditional buttons and other "Nintendoish" inputs would make backwards compatibility and virtual console tough. Ar this point Im kinda hoping this is all 100% fake...Im just not sold on that full face screen idea. It seems kinda pointless as your hands will cover a lot of the area. Hm. I shall wait (un)patiently.
I'm indifferent without details, but I'm not an early adopter. That said, this kind of feels right to me, with Nintendo wanting their DS audience that went to mobile back.
It looks really sleek and modern which is great, but as for gaming I'd take a plastic GameCube controller over this every time. No point worrying or rejoicing about it until we hear the real scoop from Nintendo
It sure better stay a rumor to. Also hope Nintendo take notes, most don't want this kind of thing in the future.
Oh no.
I need buttons, goddamnit >:C Also, oval screen? No thanks. It looks really uncomfortable to hold, too. Still hoping this is fake.
Can you imagine the awkward off-tv play with that screen shape?? Ugh it may as well be a triangle shape.
I don't believe it's the actual NX controller or even Nintendo related. It looks more like a PSP or some kind of portable then a controller. Perhaps it's the rumoured portable aspect of the NX? Either way I'll believe it once Nintendo unveils the NX.
At first i'm like that looks cool! Then i'm like where the heck are the Dpad and buttons? Then i'm like nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
new tech there will buttons but they are virtual, the thing is they will feel real and have that feedback. it could be something new all the others start using if it goes well, i'm guessing it must have passed Nintendo tests and that's probably means it's fine they do care about how there games feel after all.
I don't know what to think without knowing more. I remember when I first saw the Wii Remote I was utterly gobsmacked that Nintendo would abandon standard shaped controllers for something seemingly so horrid to use (at the time I didn't realise it was a motion controller, I thought Nintendo wanted us to play with a vertical controller!)
So I'll reserve judgment until Nintendo show us what the big idea is here (or this turns out to be fake).
I hope that's not real! Tiny screen and no face buttons OR triggers? That would be terrible. I doubt it's real. Plus, there's no visible branding, which seems unlikely for the real deal, so it's probably some other product being passed off.
I would be 100% okay with this if there are buttons on the back, kinda like the paddles on the back of the xbox elite controller. I couldn't handle virtual buttons!
@Gen0neD I hope you're right about it being portable, but Nintendo stated that the NX (and Reggie pronounced the "X") would be a dedicated gaming platform. Then again, they've also said that the NX isn't meant as a replacement for the Wii U or 3DS.
Until we get official confirmation, I reserve all judgement.
Having said that, a platform is just a means of playing fun games, and I will buy NX no matter what it is. Simply for one reason- Nintendo GAMES. Now, I am skeptical that haptic feedback can replace buttons and I doubt that oval design is comfortable, but, again I will wait until seeing the real deal, holding it and actually playing on one before passing judgement.
In the end, if you're going to quit playing Nintendo games over this, or any other non-conforming issue, you might as well delete this website from your bookmarks and hit the road now, because I can almost promise you Nintendo will never conform. If it's not this, it'll be something else. Save yourself the trouble and quit now.
This sort of thing is only going to continue and escalate. Hope Ninty are ready with some official details soon.
@Vee_Flames You say "Oh no," but your avatar says "OH YES!!"
Remember when people were talking about the PS4 controller? There was an image leaked of a controller for the first batch of dev units. It looked similar to the final product, but uglier...
IMO, is this going to be one of those early units, but the final model will look better than this.
...I still don't like the shape of it...
http://allgamesdelta.s-ul.eu/lQaOiVTl
It looks like they got caught!
I wonder if people still think Zelda U is going to pull a Twilight Princess, releasing on the current system and the next?
@allav866 It's bound to happen at this point if Nintendo is planing to stop manufacturing the WiiU later this year.
Not going to say anything about the NX but "Perkele37" has quite an interesting name since it's basically just a Finnish curse word and two numbers.
Doesn't look ergonomic enough to be nintendo. It does look a bit cool i think, but it's more like a mockup of recent Nintendo patents.
Nintendo it's time to talk about NX. This silence is getting ridiculous and it needs to stop.
Good luck Nintendo.
Here's how I see it: People flipped out when they announced the DS, but they made awesome use of the touch screen (although the original iteration was hideous). People doubted the Wii, but we got Wii Sports and Skyward Sword. People doubted the WiiU, but we got Splatoon and Mario Maker. Whatever they do will be different, revolutionary, and gave that special Nintendo magic.
No buttons, no sucky sucky.
@Jamester0722 Agreed! People are too quick at judging things, plus this is most likely either a prototype or the dev kit version
I'll tell you why I think this is fake. It looks 'cool' modern, high tech.
Look at Nintendo's controller and handheld history. They've never gone for a cool modern look.
I don't get these random pictures of these things at all. If the guy's got his hands on the genuine NX then why doesn't he take a picture of the console as well? Or even show it playing games? From the little we can see of the environment it doesn't look as if he's being closely supervised and these are ninja snaps, so why stop with only two pictures of the controller if he's got the console in his own property and is willing to leak pictures on the Internet?
Seems dumb to me.
This looks terrible.
No way that its real.
First ever Nintendo device that I will not buy.
The PS4 was the first Sony device I have not bought, and now my beloved Nintendo is next.
@TheAceofMystery Yup, that's what I said, remember the pictures of the controllers from the first batch of PS4 dev kits? http://www.abload.de/img/11xjjj.jpg
They need to spill the beans already. Without any further clarifications this already hurts NX's image. Regardless of it being fake or not...
This can't be the NX controller. It doesn't have that Nintendo feel, and it looks very uncomfortable. I have a hard time believing it's real, but these images do offer more proof for the argument.
Rumours, Rumours Everywhere!!
Well, My adventage is that I don't believe in every rumour that appear everywhere, then, while are "pears or apples", I don't care.
Kids, please stop whining about the face buttons until you've actually tried the device yourself.
The DS, the handheld that started the trend of touch-based controls, has more buttons than any other Nintendo handheld, with the exception of the New 3DS. If this is real, then there is a reason for this to have been designed this way.
@Yorumi Technically the button on this are the trigger wheels on the top of the controller. In honesty I hope that there's at least an A, B, and Start physical face buttons on the final model of the controller. Then say if more optional buttons are needed, they can appear on the screen.
Hmmm...
Nintendo always has a D-Pad. They make a lot of platformers. I wonder if this lends credence to the leak being fake, or if those analogs can lock free rotation and turn into 4 directional joysticks...
I'm genuinely curious because far be it from Nintendo to leave out a D-Pad
If Nintendo is planning to release a controller or portable without front physical buttons, hopefully they have some accessory grip that will have buttons on them, like multi level shoulder buttons.
At any rate, the screen from the WiiU gamepad coming over wouldn't be a surprise imo. At least in some fashion.
@JaxonH Possible. The Steam controller can work that way. But due to the Steam controller's single actuation point and lack of pivot, using the Steam controller's left track pad as a DPad isn't that great. Though it'll be interesting if it can turn into something like a NeoGeo CD mini 8way joystick; but the amount of mechanics to pull that off would make the controller huge and heavy! lol!
I still think its fake or most a prototype. But assuming its real, I'm not a fan. I won't go and say I won't get one for sure but the whole no buttons thing would kill any hype I had for it. Being open minded I would still wait and try it in person before I make any absolute judgements. I'm worried this is real and I won't like it. Hopefully I could be convinced to get it after trying it.
These joysticks look like they were designed to not allow small objects in, maybe even to be water-proof.
This looks more and more like a gaming smartphone to me. May it be a Nintendo smartphone or not.
I have a pretty quick and easy answer to that (should it be real):
No physical buttons = no purchase. End of story.
Besides, with the rumors of Nintendo thinking about a console OS build upon Android and looking at that thing...my tinfoil hat says that this is going to be the fabeled "Nintendo phone" in controller form.
Also, is it just me, or does it look liek a "ohysically challenged" Vita ?
@Kroko Here's a better idea: don't try to defend the tablet until you've tried it yourself! No one knows if it's really bad, but no one knows if it's good either, and Nintendo has made stupid decisions with their gaming systems in the past. Need I mention the Virtual Boy? Or even the first few years of the Wii U's life cycle?
Something I just thought...
Like with the Wii and WiiU. Could there be other controllers in the Works for the NX such as an NX Pro pad, and/or compatibility with Wii remotes?
I'm not sure I like the look of this. Still could be a fake. But if its not I will reserve judgment until I see a video showing how everything is suppose to be used with the NX. However I still don't think I will be getting a NX anytime soon unless all my digitally purchased Wii U software is transferable to the NX.
Sooooo....there's a new PS4 with 4K resolution in the works????
Looks fake to me. Moreso because of the 'confidential property' sticker on it.
Nintendo had better just unveil the thing already, because this is getting ridiculous. It's only a matter of time before someone, somewhere actually does leak the real thing. It's unavoidable.
@Yorumi
I'm really skeptical of the level of control offered by a setup using only clickable, scrolling shoulder buttons, (assumed) clickable analogs and haptic feedback.
Assuming this is real (and it may be- that one leak said it looked like Samsung and DS had a baby or something like that), I have to trust Nintendo would not create a device where controls were a major issue. I do think they value offering a certain level of control to their games.
One could point to the Wii to argue otherwise, and that's fair, but the Wii controls weren't really bad IMO for games that implemented them in a competent fashion.
So, I do believe no matter what happens, it will control well enough to enjoy their games on. I simply refuse to believe they'd pass off a control setup that absolutely didn't work.
@bezerker99 Yup, I heard about this before they even released the system. Hence why I'm holding back on the PS4, even though I will get one in the future, preferably a 4K edition. But I heard that Microsoft is doing the same with the XBox One. Maybe that'll be an option with the future upgradable models.
...still though, this generation of consoles is bad. One of the main reasons why I'm a PC/Retro gamer these days.
"Confidental property" oops.
They forgot the A,B,X,Y buttons.
@Xilef Then again, Retro Inc. put a "Prototype" label on a SNES Mini inside a Jaguar case. It doesn't make it a Prototype does it? ;P
People are saying it doesn't look Nintendo but then did the Wii? And it does look modern, perhaps even a little vita or Sony - esque which is not necessarily a bad thing
...keep trying internet..
Has anyone on here actually thought it might be real??? And it fits into an actual controller shel to be played on the tv and when you go out you can keep playing but in its form that we see via the photos at the top??
Anyone
Anyone.
Let's think outside the box.........it is Nintendo after all.
Oh yeah if that was the case it would save Nintendo a lot of money by doing that and not have to make a separate controller for the hardcore.......just clip in and play.
Only two shoulder buttons for buttons (that double as scroll wheels)...... too few. I hope the haptic thing is at least usable.
@Splatmaster If the controller shell adds more buttons and triggers I would be very happy!
@TLink9
I'd say Finland is a more likely candidate, since, for one, the same keyboard layout is used in Finland as well. The username 'Perkele37' is another a telltale sign of a Finn. As for that tree – well heck, it's just a tree, hardly a decisive piece of evidence.
If I was Nintendo - before I made a controller WITHOUT buttons - I would leak a prototype picture to see how the Internet reacts lol. Then I would go for the prototype WITH buttons and continue developing that! lol
@Yorumi
So I have a theory.
Assuming this is real, it is indeed able to stream 1080p wirelessly to any TV or device with HDMI input. Basically, it's a hybrid. Can play games on the go or stream to TV.
Well, perhaps there will be a normal controller that syncs via Bluetooth for playing as a home console. That other leak did say "it can sync with pretty much everything". So at home, normal console, normal controller, although you will have the option to use this as the controller for added 2nd screen integration (perhaps even to accommodate BC for digital Wii U games on eShop).
But on the portable side of things, it's part mobile device. The control scheme isn't quite as good as a normal setup, but it gets the job done.
What do you think... Plausible?
Weird. That desk looks a heck of a lot like mine! I have a macbook pro next to a similar (if not the same) Samsung monitor and a dark wood desk that has similar grain...
I just want real buttons for my controller...
btw - the Gamecube controller and Especially the Wii U Gamepad are beautifully ergonomic - this looks kinda sharp edge-y like. . :/
I really hope that isn't the final design. Can't say anything about comfort but no buttons and a d-pad are a no-no. If this is the design, hopefully they implement those control methods and make the controller/device similar to the Vita.
@SepticLemon I'm starting to believe I need to invest in a gaming PC these days. Either that or Nintendo needs to hire me. lol
Just tell me there are actual buttons and not just touchscreen buttons and I'd happy with it.
I'm very interested in the scroller wheels on that thing. I think it could make for some pretty cool control schemes.
E3 is only a few months away...
I think it looks slick!
I showed these pictures to a few non gaming/casual people I work with and they loved it, they think it looks cool. So if it is real, prototype of what it will be, then Nintendo might be back in action with the casual audience with this seeing their reaction just now. 3rd party we'll just have to wait and see.
@bezerker99 The days of console gaming is slowly dying. The closest that you'll get to traditional video games will be on the PC. Just save up some money, buy parts, and build a sweet rig; you won't regret it!
@KoopaTheGamer This seemse to be a mobile device and not a console
It has to be real. It's from Reddit.
@LemonSlice
It might do,and would save Nintendo a lot of money by doing it.
In its present state as the above pictures you can be on the train playing it like a touch screen phone,but when you get home you clip it into a controller shel to finish the game you were playing.
@amiiboacid It's bound to be a hybrid system. After all Razer is making that double USB-C Graphics card enclosure for the new Razer Blade Laptop.
If this is actually the NX controller, I'm afraid Nintendo has taken a one way path into ultra casual town and there is no turning back.
I'll wait for Nintendo to reveal something, till then, I only look at these article to see the interesting tech that might be working on:-P
Looks good to me especially if it can be docked into a pro controller and the screen shows Smash Bros move sets.
No buttons = no buy.
I hate to join the judgmental crowd but seriously, I can't get behind anything without physical buttons. 'Innovative' is fine but something like this reeks of gimmick. Which third party devs would seriously buy into this?
I'm calling fake or early prototype. They could easily make something almost identical to this and add a few small buttons without losing the new functionality/look.
It looks like an anti ergonomic mix between a Vita and a smartphone....
What If NX will be a gaming smartphone at the end? Android Os, partnership with Dena, this design....
If that is true, mainly because "no buttons no party" and because I hate smartphones for gaming, my Nintendo career will end with WiiU
It looks fake to me. If this is the real deal, then I would have expected Nintendo to use a completely different shape for the controller in the patent picture.
If it's real, then it could put me off the NX. I can't see haptic feedback providing enough feedback compared to buttons, and I could imagine myself dropping it easily. The games are the most important thing for a console, but if the controller is bad then it distracts from the games.
I kind of don't mind it but it makes me nervous with only 2 sticks like that. Probably will end up being fake though.
With the rate of recent leaks coming true, I do think this controllers look is likely to be real. Albeit that it may change to some degree before it is finally released. Now my question is could the controller double as a cellular device? Now I think that would be awesome. Think of it, Nintendo already has enough apps on the 3DS already to cover the basic needs of most cell phone users, with the big exception of a dedicated email app. Miitomo could cover their initial social networking needs. It could just be possible. But would you buy one?
You'd think Nintendo would have looked at the PS4's incredible sales figures and come to the conclusion that the general video-game playing public just wants a normal controller. But I'm no industry analyst, so who knows?
This story only encourages me to use my label maker to put "CONFIDENTIAL PROPERTY" on all my stuff.
@WreckItRyan The scroll wheels (if theyre actually like mouse scroll wheels) can be used as a button seperate from actually scrolling.
And there's a third image too:
http://www.inceptional.com/2016/03/23/are-these-supposed-leaked-images-of-the-nx-controller-real/
I really hope this isn't real, because I just don't see why I should be excited about that particular design.
The label on the bottom is stupid. Don't need buttons on a touch screen.
@DarkKirby cough Wii cough
@JaxonH If it has haptic feedback on the sticks, then they can certainly be configured to feel/act like 4 or 8 (or two or three) way joysticks..
If that's the controller I ain't buying...
The more I watch the pics the more I see the Nintendo Phone....
If the screen had something on it I'd be more convinced.
This is just a bit of plastic cut out in woodwork class with some bindings and circles stuck on.
i want buttons,real buttons,atleast four of them,im ok with the futuristic look and all but i need my a b x and y
Could this be the unit itself? Like they said it is not a Wii U/3DS replacement so maybe it will just have downloadable games like a mobile phone.
Part of me feels like this isnt real, because I feel Nintendo would never forego their buttons and triggers. UNLESS this piece plugs/docks into a bigger piece of the puzzle with said buttons and triggers.
I wish they'd just lay it out on the table now. The more rumors there are, the more damaging/dissappointing the reveal might be if it doesnt live up to the hype.
Maybe it flips open to become a U-Force 2.0
Ugh! Where the hell are buttons?! Many people complained about the Wii Remote (not my fav, but it still worked well with some games), but even THAT had buttons!
If that is the controller, then it will be the first console gen I'll skip Nintendo since N64.
Why can't they go with something like the GC controller or the Pro controller in a material that doesn't gather so much dust!
"Everything else is child's play."
"It's so bad."
What the !"#¤ is wrong with a regular controller? This is such a lame way to lose to the competition.
@LemonSlice
The question with the NX is if Nintendo is going to try to appeal and market to mainstream gamers with it again, or continue to try and coax casuals into Nintendo products when casuals have long since lost interest on consoles, (which is why the Wii U was made and failed).
If this is indeed the NX controller, I think that answer is clear.
Looks pretty snazzy tbh.
Smash Bros will be kinda hard with no button input. Still, i'll wait for an official reveal. I remember a lot of rumor like this one 4 years ago and i was very skeptic with the WiiU. In the end, i really enjoyed it and still does even if the system is a failure in terms of marketing.
@Yorumi I don't think we have to worry about " this" being the NX.
That said, I don't know how I feel about the lack of buttons yet. They would have to give us some way of being able to tell what we are touching when we are looking at another screen. This IS Nintendo though and they excel at making things that make no sense but still make money (even the WiiU technically is profitable, not as much as hoped but still).
I was sceptical at first, but now quite a few insiders are coming out to say this matches the description of the dev kits. It worries me a little because it almost looks like it's designed to make mobile ports simple.
@Chozo "Nintendo will disappoint us in unforeseeable ways at e3."
After their last few attempts at wowing me with their "big announcements" like last E3, the Final Smash Direct, and the most recent Nintendo Direct, I'm inclined to agree. I'm just going to assume for now they're about to launch a new handheld device that's essentially just a Vita internally, but with some weird quirk to it that I won't pay any real attention to after the novelty fades.
I don't want to approach the hardware announcement with too much anticipation, but I fully expect they'll bum me out pretty hard. Then again, I was really interested by the Wii U reveal and concept, and then...... seemingly almost nobody else was.... and then we ironically got some of the best versions of some of Nintendo's biggest IPs on a console that can't sell to literally save its life.... so who knows.
There are a few reasons why I strongly believe this is a fake.
1. An oval screen? Wouldn't games be hard to play with that?
2. What would be the point in even having a screen covering the full front when your hand would be covering both the sides
3. Wouldn't having touch screen buttons mean that you couldn't play with gloves on, unless they made some different touch screen thing (I know, strange point, but still I valid point)
There are a few reasons why I strongly believe this is a fake.
1. An oval screen? Wouldn't games be hard to play with that?
2. What would be the point in even having a screen covering the full front when your hand would be covering both the sides
3. Wouldn't having touch screen buttons mean that you couldn't play with gloves on, unless they made some different touch screen thing (I know, strange point, but still I valid point)
I'm pretty positive this is fake or at least just an early prototype that is different than the final design. If this were to be the final design, I would not be buying the NX. I need buttons to play my games and this controller doesn't look comfortable to use at all. There is the possibility that this could just be an optional add-on... but I'm done speculating. Nintendo, just show us this system. I've lost so much interest in the NX recently, so if you want to win me back, then reveal this thing already.
Just seen leaked pictures. Can't verify their legitimacy. Don't know what games are coming for it
All toghether now: 1ST NINTENDO CONSOLE IM NOT BUYING!!!!111 NINTENDO IZ DOOMED111111!!!111111
People on the Internet possess the twin annoying traits of quick to judge and gullibility.
My guess is this controller will have the option to create buttons wherever they are needed by using microfluidics. As you could see from the first image there was a clearly visible B button that looked slightly raised but was also a part of the display. Tactus technology has invented touch screen technology that allows for buttons and contours to be created anywhere using microfluidics, it's commonly used in hospitals and iirc is behind the recent technology of Braile tablets.
So basically we would be getting a fully customizable controller in terms of button layouts, a touchscreen, two analog sticks, and likely motion controls, and possibly even infrared technology given the camera. This could literally be a typical controller and more, basically whatever you wanted it to be/do it can. Crazy, i hope this is true and i'm on to something with my speculation. The technology exists.
My only gripe is that i hope they add handle grips. But i read an idea on Youtube i think could make a lot of sense, perhaps this controller can be inserted into a shell to make it like a gamepad.
@The-NX Bah! You don't even know what you are! Just look at your picture!
I won't be buying super early, and I know that everyone else hates it, but I think it looks kind of cool. Like high end almost, which is something nintendo products never usually look like. Of course, I'm sure the actual version will be more comfortable looking, but we'll see.
Best thing about those two pictures is that the first shows the reflection of a window and then in the second the blinds are closed and the owner has had two or three cold drinks on that table and left water marks. Makes sense. Every good leaker makes sure they close the blinds and throw back a couple of glasses of ice cold lemonade before posting a football shaped controller to Reddit.
@SanderEvers The fact that Nintendo can mass produce, and is using it for such a small screen may make it far more affordable than for most outfits. I can't say i know the average cost of doing something like that but i do know Nintendo could do it far cheaper than what can typically be done.
If this is the actual controller/NX, then I'm glad I got my PlaystationVR preordered yesterday. If the controller/NX ends up more appealing to me than this, I'm glad I can still cancel my PlaystationVR order if so desired. Please, Nintendo, don't break my heart by eliminating real buttons.
BUT WHY IS IT OVAL?
I'm just not buying into it at the moment.
The "Confidential Property" sticker on it suggests to me it's an elaborate hoax.
Nothing Nintendo could do at this point for me to have faith in them. Nothing ---- after sticking by them since the NES.... I believe they would do something this awful -such poor decisions so many years going now. I just have no interest this company is nothing other than witnessing this train wreck over time to what has become what I see as a hollow shell if its former self. This seems to be a real thing?!! REALLY?!!
Oh well, guess I am realizing I am long 'over' this now.
Nintendo and I, ending gaming as we know it, together? Maybe!
@toxibunny I get the feeling the final thing will have the horns or accessory.
I think the worst part is that we can't even totally deny that it's false... because Nintendo is most likely to do this thing (not exactly a bad thing, though).
How does this thing even work?! No buttons whatsoever! That's just a big recipe for disaster. I tried it (touchscreen controls) with DuckTales Remastered for my tablet. I tried it with Killer Bean Unleashed. It's just not good. Now imagine if MK or Smash was to be played on this thing.
I really hope this is just a rumor, or it's just some old idea of Nintendo someone got his/hands on. I have a hard time believing Nintendo let this past the R&D stages. It's... what is that thing?!
That is just an early prototype i'm sure of it, not the final product.
Add D-pad, physical buttons, and a hand grip. I think I'll be pretty excited by that.
Oh please let this be fake. At the very least give it physical buttons. Is that really too much to ask?
With all the Apple and Samsung products around, I'm not sure if these photos being hi-res mean anything...
@allav866 And yet again someone relates what I say to my avatar! But no. My avatar is the complete opposite of what I think about this rumor.
@Kirk I'm very curious, who wrote that article you posted? Because that person seems to have an extreme bias for VR... which is probably why you chose it. Or maybe wrote it.
my concerns here isn't so much the apparent lack of "real" buttons (don't get me wrong I've never used a touch screen button that felt... reliable but I can hope) its more the seeming lack of triggers. I think it will be a hard sell to "core" players and devs that a touch screen would work just as well.#
What makes me smile is, that even with this, the last leak, and now a Gameinformer editor confirming the pad "matches what he knew" we still not sure if this is a pad, a handheld or part of some hybrid.
In case the first post didn't work:
From the Original Poster:
_"To clarify, this is the controller unit for the console.
Dev-kit, so it's not the final design, obviously."_
So yeah, it's a prototype for the dev kit.
I'm calling legit.
Well, I love the Gamecube controller, I really loved the Wii controllers, crazy about the Wii U GamePad capabilities... so when it comes to controllers, in Nintendo I trust
It's got to be real, there's a gamepad next to it. XD
Bleh >.<
Loving the doom and gloom in the comments. Nothing is official until Nintendo announce it.
At all the people complaining/wondering about the oval "screen":
Besides me thinking this is fake because it looks WAY too much like the picture in the patent, that VERY patent also mentioned that it is not intended to display the game you play across the ENTIRE surface of the controller, but instead to project a rectangle (supposedly 3DS screen shaped and sized) exactly in the middle of the controller.
The rest of the screen property OUTSIDE of that is meant to display ADDITIONAL information, buttons, commands or some sort of interactive background creating more immersion to give the player the idea he is more directly involved in the actions of the game instead of having to push a button.
So, in short: no part of the actual game screen will be either blocked by fingers/hands and it also doesn't have to be oval, so calm yourselves down, please.
And if it is legit, it could still only be a prototype (and not the final aka consumer version) of the controller, because for dev kits, the most important thing is that it has all the functionalities for the developers to be able to do tests with it.
Heck, it could be shaped like a corkscrew, as long as it has all the properties of the final product, so developers will be able to test drive their games.
Final product will also probably have some shell with prongs to make it easier to hold.
@Moshugan The previous two similar comments worked just fine, so you can remove a couple of them...
@TheRealThanos Sorry, the site was working really weird when I posted. :---D
I removed the clone posts.
Buttons Nintendo, buttons... otherwise just make all your games on Android already....
@EXP Well, to be fair... the PS4's controller isn't exactly normal, either. It has the touchpad as well as the LED in front of it. If anything, the "normal" controllers of this generation are the Xbox One's and the Pro Controller.
I'm expecting a screen on the NX home console's controller. But not this oval thingy.
@Moshugan Yeah, NLife has a knack for serving us that bug from time to time. Best thing is just to wait a bit after the first try or to refresh the page and nine out of ten times you will suddenly see the previously invisible comment appear out of thin air, instead of trying to re-post it again and again.
But obviously I was also just having a bit of fun at your expense...
That controller doesn't look bad but in my opinion it doesn't look distinctly Nintendo either. Come on June already I am tired of relying on rumors and speculation!
They could give us a moldable turd with a flexible screen on it and we'd still buy it. Make sure you launch the WiiTurd with a Pokemon MMORPG and the rest of the world will buy one too... It's that simple.
These mock-ups/ prototypes remind me of a TV remote with touchscreen I used to have, it had only one "nub" though.
This looks like more like an optional assessory than a main controller.
It looks far too neat to me, not like some Nintendo product to have fun with. Possible that the concept may go in this direction, but the design appears rather unbelievable to me.
@Luna_110
Calm down... Take a breath.
1) this is not confirmed
2) even if it is real, they haven't had the opportunity to explain how it will work (haptic feedback + versatile shoulder buttons+ possible buttons on backside- there's all kinds of possibilities)
Now, if this releases, and you try it, and it doesn't control well, then start panicking
Are there any other conspiracy theorists here who believe Nintendo itself is leaking these crappy prototype photos in order to add to the mind-blow that will happen when we see the real device?
@jwfurness
No, I'm pretty sure you're the only one
Between now and when Nintendo unveil the NX there will be lots of these "leaks". I am choosing to ignore all of them. Nintendo will likely respond by stating that they do not comment on rumors and speculation, and really, that is the correct response. They cannot allow other people to dictate their timeline for revealing details. E3 is only three months away. All will be known soon.
In the months before the 3DS was unveiled there were lots of very convincing "concept" photos released that claimed to show the actual next Nintendo handheld. Most of them were way off the mark when the 3DS was finally revealed.
wild theory time here... what if this is actually a nintendo phone/handheld hybrid. if you look at the size, it is tiny next to the wii u, but turn it vertically and it looks like it could be a phone.
whatever it is, i am intrigued
I reckon this could be a Nintendo Android gaming device. Nintendo probably won't release a Smartphone, so if this is real, that's what my money is on.
Mobile gaming is huge and Nintendo know that more than anybody else. The new handheld running Android is the perfect way for Nintendo to corner the market.
just read other comments and other seems to also think it could be a nintendo phone.. I would love that so much
@neyoung8 I doubt it's a phone. Nintendo wouldn't be that ballsy to go into the phone market. But I do believe that it'll be a Portable/TV Console hybrid seeing as there's technology out there to mount full blown graphics cards to tiny laptops through either 2 lots of USB-C or a Thunderbolt 3 cable.
Crazy Fan Theory Time!
#1 The controller has no buttons because it can form them through the screen , creating the perfect layout for each game.
#2 That's not the controller, that's the consol! The sticks/screen are to support quick startup/menu/multi-player/gameplay and stuff like the CD drive are separate units that work off the cluster system also patented by Nintendo.
#4 This is a decoy Nintendo are deliberately leaking to keep people from spoiling the surprise of what the NX . With all those leaks lately they have to be doing SOMETHING to slow them down.
#5 This is not Nintendo at all but coincidencly resembles their patent. Alternatively Nintendo simply produced a prototype for the patent or as an experiment. Or even this is a very early prototype.
Whatever happens if this is the actual controller I reserve judgement until I actually HOLD the thing. THAT will be the real test. Also those "ball nubs" remind me of the Sega Saturn's 3D controller which was quite satisfying to use.
@Monkeyofthefunk So instead of releasing the handheld or console that we're all waiting for, they'll release a phone, the device that won't "compete directly with the 3DS or WiiU."
@ImprobableToast See, there is another conspiracy theorist amongst us!
"Gamers don't use buttons."
~Miyamoto
@ImprobableToast Very likely on your 5th point, mainly due to the fact that when it comes to Patents, companies don't so an image of the actual product, otherwise they're showing off what it is before they even announce it, and they don't want competitors to know what it's like before they public announce it. Seeing as the photo resembles the patent a little too well. I highly doubt this is the real thing. But it could be a development controller. After all, the early PS4 Dev kits had wired controllers that didn't totally look the final version that was released to consumers.
@SepticLemon I think Nintendo are ballsy enohugh to go into the phone market which is basically dominated by Samsung and Apple in the same way that Sony and Microsoft are currently controlling the console market. The mobile market is bigger than the console market and Nintendo love the blue ocean.
Where did the b botton go?
Not sure it is real, but if the thing has to double as a handheld device as well, then the ergonomics and lack of buttons make sense.
..well if it is, I'm gonna need the NXXL...
@jwfurness
"The console we're all waiting for"
Eh, "we" is not a large enough group anymore. Wii U was a great console yet people didn't buy it. GameCube was a great console and not enough people bought it.
The notion Nintendo needs to cater to "us" for success isn't exactly based in reality. "We" are no longer enough to sustain them. So making the console "we're all waiting for" will probably land them right back into Wii U/GameCube territory.
What they seem to want is create something a little more cutting edge and versatile.
As long as it plays those exceptional 1st party games, and brings come cutting edge tech to the table (like a handheld/console hybrid that streams wirelessly), it IS the console "we've been waiting for" as far as I'm concerned.
@yopparai it only hurts Nintendo's image because the internet says so!! People say I'm not buying an NX because of some random leaked photo and like the giant flock of sheep the internet is everyone follows. If people didn't get so riled up over a probably fake leak then we wouldn't have this problem!
People are quick to judge now in days without actually knowing the full details. Again I'm gonna wait till Nintendo announces something on the NX before judging.
Also after reading the comments, none of this matters if you can simply plug a pro controller in. Like the game pad this is just an option.....if it is indeed real
Maybe, just maybe, it's not a controller at all... It could be the next Nintendo Handheld.
Sooo... where are the buttons?
Looks real to me, but lets hope that isn't the only controller input option.
Looks legit to me. Wonder if this is the rumored handheld part of the console? Or is it the actual controller? Time will tell. I'm guessing Nintendo will stay silent on the matter until E3.
@WreckItRyan
You'd want a headphone jack so you don' t bother others while playing. The Xbone and PS4 joysticks both have them...so does the Wii U tablet.
Everybody breathe easy! It's been debunked, by NLife's friendly neighborhood investigator:
https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/712722594919804929
@MGray I'm thinking that too. I firmly believe a new handheld is on the way. But even then... I'm not sure I want to play my games without buttons. Or even the stylus (played Kid Icarus and Phantom Hourglass with it, so I'll give you that).
EDIT: I played Uprising with the stylus and the circle pad, so there's that. Note the "circle pad"
I wonder if Nintendo decided the dual screen concept is enough (Phat DS to the New 3DS XL) and try something else. Maybe this is it. If it is, well there will be a lot of convincing to do!
That looks bad. Glad it's fake.
@TheRealThanos Well, no offense but it's still... Doctor Cupcakes. Another (kind of) rumor mill. But hey, if this is completely fake, YES! JUST YES!
@Vee_Flames You're obviously not very well known with his more than solid track record on making statements that are nearly always 100% on the money. You might wanna look into that before debunking the debunker...
So like. That reflection on the second pic. I mean, it's a bit off, don't cha think?
@LiamR Mr. Robertson, care to chime in here? Some people on here seem to be in a desperate need of some sedatives...
Nintendo, I will not play Mario without action thumb buttons to jump. do not make me use a touch scree to play Mario. I expect there to be buttons nx to those analogs. other then that I want one.
@TheRealThanos Oh really? Guess I'm not playing Star Fox Zero in April because apparently, there's some sort of hiccup with the game's development.
Look, I'm not saying it isn't true. But the whole "friend at NOE" thing is just yet another rumor. I'm hoping it's true, but that's it.
You know, E3 2015 made me question why should I believe the NX will be better than the Wii U.
I stand corrected. This is actually WORSE if this is real.
A controller with no D-pad, buttons, or stuff like you would expect on a handheld. If the buttons are on the screen, then that's stupid because touch screen isn't always realiable.
If this is the NX, I'm not buying one. -_-
@Vee_Flames My dear boy, what has that got to do with anything? When most people say I've got an uncle (or any other family member) working at Nintendo, then it would absolutely be a serious reason to doubt that person. Someone with Unseen64's track record? Most likely not.
I actually really like the design generally. I like the look and there are a number of cool things there. I actually don't think 'grip' is that necessary for a controller. You get better fidelity of control if you grip with your fingertips anyway.
However, I simply won't buy a console without physical buttons or very good button simulation. If the NX just has virtual touchscreen buttons, there is nothing at all Nintendo can do to convince me to buy it. Honestly, with virtual buttons, I could learn to let go of some buttons and even the D-pad. But I need at least two buttons to buy this thing, or I'm out and Nintendo can try again or forget about me.
@Vee_Flames
He didn't say Star Fox will be delayed. He said "it could possibly be delayed" due to NoE staff not happy with the controls (too difficult) that they ask it to be fixed (adjusted). That's what I remember from the Nintendo Life article.
@Splatburst Nail on the head, my friend. Nail on the head...
@TheRealThanos If you're talking about my Star Fox comment, it's because Liam said so. Or something along the lines. I mean, since you're definitely on his side, wouldn't you actually believe the game would be delayed? Just asking...
About the controller? I'm happy if it's not true. But then it's not really confirmed. Like this, I'm going to take Cupcakes' tweets with grains of salt. Maybe a little, but still some salt.
@Splatburst Well from what we've seen of Star Fox Zero everything looks just fine. Even Miyamoto confirmed that the game was finally finished anyway, so... shrugs
Just so you know, I edited this post.
@mariovslink62
I think touch controls could prove problematic. Potentially, because I'm not aware of the full capabilities of haptic feedback. It wouldn't be like touch on mobile or Vita though, that much I do know.
But I think it's unwise to write off an entire platform without first doing your due diligence and investigating how well it controls. Because you may be completely wrong in assuming it doesn't control well, simply because it's something you're not accustomed to.
My stance would be- try it. See for yourself how well it controls. If it sucks, then you have good reason to not buy, but if it works well, you just saved yourself from missing an entire generation of 1st party gems, over nothing.
I just don't see the point of having screen real estate that is going to be covered up by the user's hands.
@Vee_Flames No, he never said that. In the same Twitter feed that I posted he is discussing the exact same thing with some know it all who also thought he said that. Liam quickly made him see the error of his ways... So you really need to get your info straight before you post things that he never said.
On the bright side: you're still very young so more than enough time to learn...
Hope it's fake.
Won't buy if real.
Nintendo needs to go back to a mostly traditional controller. It can have uniqueness, fine, but nothing extreme. Can't stand this desire to scare 3rd parties away by making controller that just weird. 4 Generations in a row Nintendo has insisted on being unique with the controller, and majority of the gamers don't like them.
@TheRealThanos You're a knowledgeable fellow. What are the odds Nintendo would make 2 "dev-kit" controllers, one all white, one all black? And what are the odds both design colors would leak at around the same time?
Needs a D pad and 4 face buttons and I'm fine with it.
Still some really bizarrely doctored photos, though.
@Vee_Flames https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/712724821063368704
@rjejr My dear library tai chi course dancing fellow, I would say slim to none...
Sorry, but no buttons on a controller automatically makes it garbage.
@jwfurness Not instead of. It could be a new venture. They have released Miitomo and have said they will invest in mobile apps/games.
We'll still get a home console but it could be the handheld.
@TheRealThanos Whoa. How did we even get to this point? I was just saying that while I very much want to believe Liam, there's still some sort of possibility that this could be real. Now my age has somehow entered the debate!
OK, oops. Maybe I exaggerated some things. But I'm out.
I'm calling it, this'll be the first Nintendo console I pass up on! At least for the first three years or so.
Nintendo are in the business of selling 2D Mario. Surely they wouldn't release a controller with no D Pad and face buttons? It looks very genuine, but it could also be an expensively crafted fake as well.
Looks lovely and hype is fun, but I think I might wait until the console is actually announced before making up my mind!
Anyway, I just drew this is. This is what I believe the NX will resemble. Granted it is missing a DPad. But I was trying to make it minimal as I could without making it too basic. But at least it has a few physical buttons on it. Think of it as your typical 4" smart phone, but a tad bigger to accommodate analogue sticks.
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1nzfbZkWuprKB7YGh0LpBuzJni5sYPDwFS4AVTyL5ozw/edit?usp=sharing
@Project_Dolphin It does make me laugh. I've seen less crying at a funeral. I think they should perhaps play some games until Nintendo make an official announcement.
@Vee_Flames That was just me pulling your leg. Did you not notice the smiley? If it makes you feel any better, you can call me an angry old man (I'm already 45 years old after all). I however won't be offended in the least since such trivial comments can't touch me...
@XCWarrior
Ya but the majority of gamers tried shovelware on Wii (Metroid Prime 3, Wii Sports, Pikmin 3, Call of Duty Black Ops 2- most people loved motion in those games that got it right).
And many people have grown fond of the gamepad. Most people just write it off without trying it though, despite the fact it is a normal controller. A screen doesn't make it control any worse.
I think just because there have been some poor control schemes doesn't mean it's impossible to advance the status quo as technology moves forward.
I think the biggest problem is people writing things off without trying it- this was just debunked but the principle remains. A fair and balanced approach would be "I'm skeptical, but I'll try it. If it doesn't control to my liking I'm not buying it. If it does, I will buy it."
But most people just say "not buying" despite the distinct possibility they could be wrong, and it could control just fine. Why? How hard is it to investigate first and make an informed decision? I mean, if it doesn't work well so be it. At least people found out for themselves: but what if it does control well?
@Project_Dolphin "If you asked every poster on this message board to individually design the "console we've been waiting for", there would literally be thousands of different console designs."
You'd end up with the equivalent of Homer's car. And it would cost a grand to manufacture.
I think we're looking at legitimate goods here. Ready or not, the oval of power is coming!
And why wouldn't they show better pictures from more angles? Oh right, because its a fake mockup. With 3d printing so readily available, it wouldn't be outside the range of possibility to do this. There's no clear shot of the top, back or even it being actively used.
@Kevlar44 My oh my, I hope you`re right! A second screen is a huge help in games, so if it`s a controller like you mentioned, I dare say it`d be the best controller ever
The pictures themselves look real, but that doesn't mean someone didn't just 3D print it to fool everyone. Personally I don't mind the concept behind the design, but it looks uncomfortable to hold for long sessions. And, lack of actual buttons would be extremely annoying. Something touch screens just don't have is that blind tactile feel. Without it your always looking at the screen to be sure your actually hitting the buttons.
@yuwarite http://gonintendo.com/stories/254628-morphable-touch-screen-company-s-patents-reference-nintendo-wii#comments
This could solve the whole "needs buttons" argument if they use morphable touch screens
Ah, interesting: Not legit; the plot thickens. . . .
These fakers are getting real good at creating bullshots, I tells ya.
I'd just like to point out that an oval shaped controller is absurd and would absolutely not fit comfortably in anyone's hands. If this is legit there would have to be some kind of attachment or several different ones. On the off chance that it is real it is definitely not the complete picture.
Thanks for the update!!! That's two rumors debunked in two days, nice!
@TheRealThanos OK, granted, my library video is worthy of mockery, but I still think it very odd those pictures leaked a week a part but despite their similarities the colors are different. It's possible the white was a dev kit and black is the final product, but why would Nintendo make a Vita 2?
@Vee_Flames
I have a feeling that Nintendo Life will present us with an article written by Liam himself or quoting him before this week is over...And... he already did in the update to this article. Damn, and I thought that The Flash was the fastest man alive...
It makes me happy to believe these are totally fake.
Good lord, fake leaks just get more and more elaborate! That's kind of terrifying.
@rjejr obviously to match the 8GB and 32GB dev kits...
@WireWare ...like the Coleco Chameleon?
Please no...
@Jamester0722 Splatoon and Super Mario Maker didn't exactly showcase the Wii U's full potential, Nintendo never completely did. So there's no guarantee that this idea isn't simply a half-baked idea that doesn't have a lot of potential. I certainly don't see any practical uses for this.
So this then is the next step in the evolution of annoying people plaging the internet: after the introduction of the highly annoying keyboard warrior we now have the 3D printer warrior: people who have enabled themselves to take pictures of the "actual" devices to support their erratic claims...
Faking it lesson nr. #1 - Even prototypes of devices almost NEVER look anything remotely like the pictures in patents. That would also entirely defeat the purpose of using nondescript figures and images in patents to prevent the competition from copying them 1:1...
Needs buttons.
I think this is real BUT...
in my opinion this is a real thing, the actual controller wont be the final product but it will look along the lines of what we see. yes is portable which is what nintendo wanted to do with the NX, build a bridge between console and home gaming just like when you connect smash bros from your 3ds. we have seen two models, the black one which has been labeled with something along the lines of 'model 2', this could be the second model released or the 2nd prototype which is most likely because nintendo would know who have the 2nd model and they would of got the sack. it looks very simple to the context sketch realeased earlier but without the handles. they could of decided to of removed them for the 2nd model. Or...
this different picture on the internet of the white model
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/142692/20160321/is-this-the-nintendo-nx-controller-what-gamers-think.htm
this has more information, it has on screen buttons which follows the diagram but it also has a wide lead coming out of it. its wide, do you know what else is wide? that socket that has never been used on the bottom of the wii u gamepad, we dont know if they are the same fit but my guess is yes. but why do you need a screen attached to another screen, i dont know but nintendo have done it with the wii controller and the classic controller, but there will probably be an attachment which makes them wireless. I think nintendo havent used that port for a reason, weather nintendo cancelled compatibility for accesories but i really dont know. The photo of 'model 2' has a wii u gamepad next to it in one of the photos, It looks like someones decided to take a couple of snaps on their break or before the end of their day when its all turned off. Nintendo also said that we could buy another game pad for a single wii u seperately, we will definately be able to but more than one of these controllers but the will be costly. Is the NX going have a phyical console? I really dont want it to because the wii u is a decent console but if we add a new controller like the one we are seeing it would be cool because nintendo arent ready to discontinue the wii u which they have recently announced and they havent used it to the limit even though they really need to imrove on the in built memory because its not enough. But it will be a new console, just take the gamepad to the nx please nintendo, it has become my child.
I already know that i wont be buying the NX unless they have a REALLY good line-up because im kinda bored of nintendo and join my friends on the xbox one.
but nintendo, really? a gamer needs buttons and handles and a decent screen they had the wii u gamepad just right, the thing its self is to small, its just half a 3ds shaped as an oval.
I think this is real BUT...
in my opinion this is a real thing, the actual controller wont be the final product but it will look along the lines of what we see. yes is portable which is what nintendo wanted to do with the NX, build a bridge between console and home gaming just like when you connect smash bros from your 3ds. we have seen two models, the black one which has been labeled with something along the lines of 'model 2', this could be the second model released or the 2nd prototype which is most likely because nintendo would know who have the 2nd model and they would of got the sack. it looks very simple to the context sketch realeased earlier but without the handles. they could of decided to of removed them for the 2nd model. Or...
this different picture on the internet of the white model
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/142692/20160321/is-this-the-nintendo-nx-controller-what-gamers-think.htm
this has more information, it has on screen buttons which follows the diagram but it also has a wide lead coming out of it. its wide, do you know what else is wide? that socket that has never been used on the bottom of the wii u gamepad, we dont know if they are the same fit but my guess is yes. but why do you need a screen attached to another screen, i dont know but nintendo have done it with the wii controller and the classic controller, but there will probably be an attachment which makes them wireless. I think nintendo havent used that port for a reason, weather nintendo cancelled compatibility for accesories but i really dont know. The photo of 'model 2' has a wii u gamepad next to it in one of the photos, It looks like someones decided to take a couple of snaps on their break or before the end of their day when its all turned off. Nintendo also said that we could buy another game pad for a single wii u seperately, we will definately be able to but more than one of these controllers but the will be costly. Is the NX going have a phyical console? I really dont want it to because the wii u is a decent console but if we add a new controller like the one we are seeing it would be cool because nintendo arent ready to discontinue the wii u which they have recently announced and they havent used it to the limit even though they really need to imrove on the in built memory because its not enough. But it will be a new console, just take the gamepad to the nx please nintendo, it has become my child.
I already know that i wont be buying the NX unless they have a REALLY good line-up because im kinda bored of nintendo and join my friends on the xbox one.
but nintendo, really? a gamer needs buttons and handles and a decent screen they had the wii u gamepad just right, the thing its self is to small, its just half a 3ds shaped as an oval.
@WreckItRyan all 3 major consoles on the market now have headphone jacks on their controllers.
@Vee_Flames I never said SFZ was getting delayed. I said that NoE wanted it to be because of concerns among their QA department regarding the motion controls - all of that was totally true and never disproven.
This looks like an issue, but on it's own, it's kind of a cool controller. It's just not what everybody wants as the primary one.
The NX could retain compatibility with Wii U software, and if it does, they'll have to make all the controllers work with the NX too.
I like it, my notes:
I am looking forward
@LiamR Yeah, I realize I misrepresented the facts (I could have sworn I read that there were development hiccups along the way... I guess that was just internet drama that I myself got swooped in). Apologies.
@Vee_Flames Points scored. Old man tips hat...
I can't imagine a Nintendo controller without their famous D-Pad. It's a staple of the industry.
I pray that this is fake. If there are no buttons then I won't wanna leave my beloved Wii u.
@FJOJR Then again the original DS strayed away from the classic feel and design.
@FJOJR I agree
People still praying, raging and fuming, even when article already debunked in update at top of page. #mindblown
This absolutely is the nintendo prototype- it's very minimal ergonomically at this point, but they're experimenting with developing touch style games that will cross function with their cell phone games/app.
@Vee_Flames I agree with you that a move into one screen for a portable* would be quite daring of Nintendo. I do love my N3DS the way it is. I never played Kid Icarus, so I never actually used the touch screen. I do not like to take my fingers off of the buttons to touch the screen with them. I dont know why, but i just dont...
@Shiner1776 A slight misinterpretation of the plan there: they mean cross-platform on everything labeled NX, since it hints at an architecture that can be shared by both handheld and home device. It is NOT meant to be shared by their smart phone/app branch. Both Nintendo and DeNA have repeatedly and explicitly stated that the series of smart phone games that is going to be developed (for the time being 5 in total) is entirely separate from the NX platform and only meant to lure new customers to actual Nintendo IP's and dedicated gaming devices.
I went on a hike this morning. Came back to this. Just wow!
That controller actually looks rather sleek and sexy, unlike the GamePad. Needs some handles though.
All this NX nonsense is getting in the way of us identifying that tree in the reflection of the Samsung monitor stand. We need to know about the tree. It is the tree that is important.
Is it a prototype tree, or a real tree? Is it still there, or has it been cut down? Does it have birds in it? It's clearly not an evergreen, but neither are lots of trees. So what kind of tree is it?
So many questions about the tree.
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!
@TheRealThanos Some random guy saying it isn't real isn't confirmation.
@Maxz Indeed. I also wonder how many polygons were used to build it and what type of shaders they used...
@NintendoFan990 Don't forget your pitchfork...
@NintendoFan990 "Some random guy"? Oh man, the internet...
I honestly wouldn't mind if this was the real thing. But of course, it doesn't quite strike me as 'Nintendo'. It's design looks amazing though - whatever it is, I'd pick it up just because I can.
@JaxonH It does seem foolish to write of a console like that, however I'm just tired of all of these "innovations." I have no reason right now to believe the NX is going to be better than the Wii U.
That being said, when more info arrives from Nintendo themselves, maybe I'll give the system a chance, but I honestly, my faith in the NX, despite knowing nothing about it, is pretty low. I know that seems weird, but this pattern Nintendo seems to be following of "Let's weaken the hardware and have no 3rd Parties" is worrying me.
Stop publishing this unflatteringcowpie.
Here's to hoping that if these leaks are true, the NX is more comfortable than it looks.
@TheRealThanos While Liam certainly isn't a random guy, he's had wrong trails in the past. Just because his source says it isn't real does not mean it's 100% debunked as of yet.
There's others claiming that the pictures match what they have heard about NX.
Otherwise, NO TO ALL OF THIS!!!
Direct quote from Iwata Feb 2015
"Smart devices have no physical buttons. Playing games such as 'Super Mario' cannot be enjoyed."
@Vee_Flames Not a problem.
I'm drowning in salt over here.
The guy who claimed the NX was less powerful than the PS4 when sources with dev kits proved to the WSJ that it was? Yeah, now I actually believe this might be real!
Someone has noticed that in the second photo the reflection in the right part of the pad is wrong? Istead of a tv with the light of a window behind it seem like a head with a light bulb behind😁
It looks exactly the same as the one from the other image... except this one's black. I'm leaning towards this being true.
On the 3DS eShop, they even had a 'better with buttons' section, where there were games that appeared both on 3DS and smartphones... they know we want buttons. But maybe they think this haptic feedback is actually good enough to replace buttons. It's going to need to be very good to convert me to buttonless... and I mean VERY good.
I am excited to try it, but NOTHING can replace physical buttons. I really, really hope they keep the DS line going. Please Ninty...
And it may be because I've not got my glasses on, but doesn't his laptop have 2 As and 2 Os?
If its real then it doesn't make me want to buy the NX any less than I currently do.
@IceClimbers I know, I never said he has a 100% track record, but still, he's right way more often than he is wrong, and his investigatory skills on the topic of forgotten/unpublished/disappeared games also goes some way into lending credibility to that.
@Kaviam I don't believe in the rumors because there's just way too many coincidences concerning the patent and that is something that rarely (if ever) happens. Final designs or prototypes simply don't look like they were ripped straight out of a patent, so if these are even actual, then at the most I would guess that they are dev kit controllers, not the ones that you and I will be using when the NX is finally released.
And please enlighten me on the enormous list of topics that you believe that Liam Robertson has gotten wrong over the years. Mind you, I already said that he isn't 100% right all the time, but he is pretty damn close and the others claiming it is true don't have a track record anywhere near his.
Damn, I almost sound like I'm his personal supporter but I'm just stating facts. If you feel that this makes me come across as a person that feels that he is better than others, then that is entirely your interpretation and I can do little to change that.
In real life I'm probably one of the most social persons you will ever meet. I'm a real people person, but I'm also a realist and a person that likes to get his facts straight. I was always like that and the business I am in has only strengthened that belief and resolve, so call it the nature of the beast, sorry for being me.
@Moon It's a Scandinavian keyboard. It has the letters O, Ö, Ä and Å.
@Makyurax Very perceptive. I think you are right.
@TheRealThanos At this point, we'll just have to wait and see. Nothing can be taken as a 100% guarantee until Nintendo actually reveals NX. Even Nintendo "denying" things can't be taken as 100% fact until then.
@Project_Dolphin Do I believe in Nikkei's report? Yes. Did I ever say that it was 100% fact, guaranteed? No.
@TheRealThanos true, they have expressed the platforms will be separate in that way- but they will function with each other to at least some degree. Especially after they test the waters with the first 5 phone games. This prototype is meant to be a bit misleading, but there will be touch and it will be a part of a modernized concept of a Nintendo ecosystem.
@TheRealThanos Presumably if it's a Scandinavian keyboard, then it wouldn't be too hard for Nintendo to track it down. They've not given out too many NX dev kits yet, right? Surely the leaker wouldn't risk it... Interesting stuff either way.
You were like "WHOA!"
And then we were like "Whoa!"
And then you were like "whoa..."
Cool it with the rumours guys, at least until you get CREDIBLE sources.
@Syrek24
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I didn't mean to hurt your feelings there cupcake. I just think it is interesting that watching the slo-mo train wreck of Nintendo happen is becoming more fun than the drip-drop of that their home console offers, which even then in my opinion is of obvious declining quality and is really random and scattered. Have fun any way you can, I could not care less -watching this is just light entertainment for me.
@Shiner1776 No offense but obviously, touch is a given, taking into account the previous home and handheld consoles, so anybody can figure that one out.
All the rest is only speculation though, except for the bit where I more or less quoted what Nintendo and DeNA said on the purpose of the mobile games...
Maybe the next batch of games will integrate more, but from a marketing point of view it would be a VERY bad move: they don't want to keep new customers on mobile, with games that will be mostly free to play, they want them to buy a Nintendo handheld and whatever NX is going to be.
That is definitely not going to happen if they are going to keep these potential customers so content with their apps/games on smart devices that they won't even feel the need or want to move to dedicated hardware, which is obviously still Nintendo's core business.
@Moon Oh it truly is a Scandinavian keyboard. I wasn't joking. That second letter A with the tiny circle above it is frequently used in quite a few Scandinavian words.
By the way: comment #51 linked to a photo that jokingly referred to the possible source by connecting some arguable dots. Fun stuff either way...
I'm pleased this isn't real
@Jayvir @SanderEvers @Kevlar44 @MGray So I found this product from Tactus: http://www.gizmag.com/phorm-ipad-mini-typing/36057/
That thing is pretty cool. It even gives a little when pressed to make it feel like buttons. And the this one has no battery needed albeit it only has one config. It costs $100-$150. If it was used in the proposed controller/handheld, the morphable part would not need to cover the whole screen, just the edges near your thumbs. Since the above example uses no battery, having this one use power to change the layout would probably not be taxing enough to compromise a handheld's battery. Couple that in with the iPad mini keyboard sized case above only costing $100, it could be consumer-price friendly enough for Nintendo. The Wii U was expensive because the streaming-to-a-second-screen tech was new, but they already developed that and recouped the R&D with the Wii U. It shouldn't affect the price of the NX that much. And this tech is possibly outsourced, so maybe it is in the realm of possibility.
I hope the 3.5 jack is not on the right side because that was one of Nintendo XL mistakes. Hands are touching the earphones plug all the time.
I don't think I want anything like that as a controller, say what you will about the gamepad it had every button needed to play games.
The surest sign of a fake is when they don't show the official stuff- in other words, the back, sides, and Nintendo logo and console information emblazoned somewhere or another on the real McCoy.
The digital doctoring here is impressive, but it's not going to fool anyone with even a hint of discernment.
This is not the final product, this is just a tool for the Devs so they can make and test the games they are making, If I were to guess what the hand held device was going to be, I'd say its a smart phone. Miitomo is a smart phone app right? It only makes sense.
@PlywoodStick In all honesty: dev kit and especially prototype devices don't necessarily have those. Especially the latter can be pretty bare bones. If you look closely, you can also see a piece of black tape holding the lower part of the supposed controller together.
As an example, here is what an early prototype of the Wii U GamePad looked like:

A picture lifted straight from an Iwata Asks article.
@TheRealThanos They're not joking. It really is the same tree!
Look at the picture and now imagine playing something like Street Fighter or the Witcher with that. I really don't think they are going to scare third party developers like that so I stay #teamfake.
@TheRealThanos Interesting... But still, they didn't take pics of the sides and back up close to prove it is a true prototype. This isn't thorough enough to be convincing.
Also, that tree being reflected by the monitor in the first picture says hi. In the other picture, window blinds are reflected! So did they move to a different room, or were two entirely different scenes used for some digital surgery?
@Shadowkiller97
Awesome. Great Work, thanks for the link. I have seen that before but quite some time ago and that's a but simplier but also very easy to pull off, if they can produce it for 100 dollars a year ago for a limited run then i'm sure Nintendo can have it made for far far cheaper. I think this technology is really neat and has some great potential. I hate touch screen button controls but i feel like the possibilities for gaming will best be realized with many different control possibilities. Touch, motion, AR/VR, and of course standard buttons available all in one controller/on one system is something i'd love to experience.
@PlywoodStick Oh, I'm not saying that it's real: you would only have to browse through my earlier comments to come to that conclusion, but one thing certainly does not exclude another, if you get what I'm saying. The tree is reflected in the monitor stand, not the monitor itself, and that is entirely possible if there is a window behind the monitor, so besides the controller possibly not being real, that doesn't mean that every part of that photo is fake too.
On another site where I'm also in a similar thread, they have run the photo through Photoshop and found no anomalies to speak of, so it is a real photo of a real object, which leads to more questions, because obviously, the device is physically real and present in the location, but is it a 3D printed mock-up or is it something entirely different from what we think it is?
EDIT:
Here's that researched picture:

I'm no expert on this, so I'll let the experienced Photoshoppers chime in here, if they care to do so.
Real or not, I'm never gaming on an oval controller...
if its fake its a very very convincing fake. but Nintendo would have to be brain dead to release something like this
@LemonSlice Mind blown!
@PlywoodStick The reflected window blinds, in combination with the different lighting could simply hint at them pulling down the blinds because of too much light or whatever. Same as the tree reflecting in the monitor stand, that is not conclusive evidence.
In any case, I hope someone on here can tell me something useful on the "Photoshop passed" image that I posted earlier, because either way it is an interesting topic.
Luckily we have Nintendo's investor meeting at the 27th of April coming up, so maybe then they will finally gives us some info on NX and otherwise there is the E3, which is slowly creeping up on us as well, so the wait isn't really in the "excruciatingly long" category anymore. Or at least as far as I am concerned...
Welcome to the world of 3D Printing. Or have people forgotten that it exists?
So many red flags about this. How can anyone believe it?
@TheRealThanos Oh yeah, I saw them! As for the photo locations, they do seem a bit off. If they were genuine, then either we would see both the tree and blinds in the reflection in both pictures, or an indication of changed rooms between the two pictures. (It would be odd to only have blinds on one set of windows and not all of them in the same room.)
I think this may be something entirely different. 3D printing isn't terribly inaccurate right now, but 3D printed molds and figures still have obvious plasticy signs of textures and trace lining. Which, if the pictures were taken closer and around the whole device, would make for a more certain assessment. And of course, the so-called photographer failed to produce such evidence!
@TheRealThanos Whether the wait is in the "excruciatingly long" category I think depends on the number of rumors/leaks that happen from now until then
@PlywoodStick Well, if the view point is at the right angle and the blinds are completely pulled up, then there is no reason as to why they would have to be visible. And in the other photo they seem to be completely pulled down, so still no fire there...
On closer inspection, the other photo is more zoomed in, so that could also account for the view point changing and might even show blinds being pulled up only halfway. Man, this doesn't make things any easier. I'm going to stop looking at these photos now...
@IceClimbers And that is why I added that it is my personal sentiment. Being really, REALLY busy with my recently started one-man company also goes a LONG way to reduce the pain of having to wait for the next E3. Right now, I'm so busy that the weeks are turning into months apparently twice as fast right before my very eyes, so only a couple more months like these and we're in June...
When do y'all think we'll learn whether this thing is real or not?
Jeez I hope not!! While I had no problems with the Wii u gamepad, can we just have an option for a normal controller too for Petes sake!!
@-Red- I suppose either after the investor's meeting at the 27th of April, which might just possibly be followed by a final Nintendo Direct before the E3 lands on our doorstep once again, or otherwise obviously during the E3 itself.
Or maybe tomorrow when Nintendo will release a brief statement denying it in a similar way that they did with the Nikkei statement concerning the discontinuation of the Wii U.
That little 'Confidential Property' sticker is so funny.
It's like finding a cheesy portfolio with a big 'Top Secret' on it with UFO pictures in it.
Although this might not be the NX, it could be a prototype for something else. Nintendo must have lots of prototypes we'll never know about. But it's likely just a prank.. Maybe from Nin themselves, to confuse their rivals, who knows.
@Kaviam No offense, but I'm honestly wondering why you're so sour in your comments? Just because someone has a weird or quirky twitter profile name doesn't mean that he can't be taken seriously from time to time.
He is also known for the website Unseen64 and obviously by his own name, so Doctor_Cupcakes is only one of them.
Besides, speaking of weird names: I think we can all agree that more than enough of them can quite easily be found here in the comments section on NLife...
@TheRealThanos LOL, I realize this has been leading nowhere at this point, it's kind of like Phoenix Wright... But isn't it strange that someone would think to take one picture, then decide to open or close the blinds, then take another picture later, instead of consecutively taking pictures at once?
As for the "Photoshop dark", I'm not experienced, but there doesn't seem to be any warping. (Those white dots on the handheld device in question seem oddly bright and numerous, though.)
@PlywoodStick I honestly can't make anything from it one way or the other, but I figured that some people on here being experienced in the use of Photoshop might be interested and would be able to shed some light on it.
But also, if these were real leaks, the person doing it would be pretty dumb or careless, considering the professional suicide you'd be doing here. If I were a colleague to that person there I'd probably recognize the table, that window, the tree, the samsung tv..
Of course, all offices looks like that, but not many would be having a 'nx' lying around.
I certainly hope not. If you think the 3DS is uncomfortable to use, this would make my thumbs fall off.
I hope not
I need a D-Pad and Buttons Nintendo...
Ugh, haptic feedback would need to have another 20 years before it's as concise and comfortable as a simple button press. I don't want a Gamepad without buttons.
Honestly I don't see 3rd party developers being enthralled to this thing and that's what makes me question its validity.
I see it as disproven but if it were not that would be a deal breaker I'd never buy. You can't game but casually without real buttons. If you could there would be no market for wireless iOS and android controllers.
This looks like the vita without buttons and is probably the same technology too.Say hello to the vita 2.0.I will buy it.
That's fake....
sips tea this is gonna be gooood.
Is it an ellipse, with the sticks at the focal points?
@Jayvir @SanderEvers @ShadowKiller97 @MGray
And strangely enough today on GoNintendo....
http://gonintendo.com/stories/254628-morphable-touch-screen-company-s-patents-reference-nintendo-wii
I swear i didn't see that before making my comment (after checking it's post time, it was posted on GoNintendo after mine), i actually made the exact same comment in a GameXplain video after the first leak. Not that it matters. lol.
You know, when I first saw this and pondered the possibility of it being real I was a little upset. A gaming system without physical face buttons just doesn't seem right to me. But then I thought about it a bit more and said to myself "Hey, it's Nintendo. No matter how the controls are designed the games are still going to be good." So, I'm not worried. If it's fake then that's fine, and if it's real that's cool too. Either way the NX is sure to have a lot of games that I'm going to want to play on it. =)
Nintendo isn't stupid enough to release a controller/handheld without buttons...are they?
Frankly, I do not think any of these "leaks" so far are actually legit. Just because its Nintendo we're talking about, and there are to many people who would go to great lengths just to troll the internet with fake leaks. plus there is a lot of hype around the NX.
However, I do like this idea! It looks really cool to me, however it does not look very comfortable to hold as of yet. Needs some handles.
Will buy either way. Seems like an interesting concept and I can't wait to enjoy it in person.
I would like to see a larger game library for the Wii U before I talk about what Nintendo is doing next. I'm talking about more games from Nintendo. Not all the garbage that comes from 3rd party developers. Also, that gamepad looks weak.
@SanderEvers This is just my opinion, but I think Nintendo should have an event or Nintendo Direct during late April where they show off the NX console. They shouldn't show off any games (they can tease a few to build up E3 hype), but merely show us what the system is and how it functions. News about what the system will spread and a ton of gamers will be interested to see what games Nintendo brings to the new system. Then, E3 will will be all about the games.
What I just said is obviously not factual, but merely my opinion on how Nintendo should approach revealing the NX to keep up momentum. That's the cool thing about marketing; there is no right or wrong way of doing things. I myself have lost a lot of interest in the NX due to no information on the system over the past year. The little to no Wii U announcements hasn't helped either.
Guys guys guys this isnt a Controller .... Its the Nintendo Phone !!!!1
I just remember this video and take confort:
https://youtu.be/fgjES1oOTlc
Next .....!!!!!
wow. Too small for many people to hold and grip for a long period of time, and it looks very uncomfortable. To me, this looks like an image from a very old PC controller that came out 3 years ago and failed. Oh, what photoshop can do. This image looks incredibly fake and appeared last year...looks very fake for someone who's just trying to get attention.
Wait for nintendo to make the decision, it's only a few months away before we hear about it and get all of the information...then, the internet will flood with hate about the system and already calling it 'doomed at launch'. At least, isn't that what the internet does to every nintendo console???
Anyways, I'm looking at something comfortable that nintendo makes...at least I hope so, and I hope they come back with a high-powered awesome system that can finally play in the console wars again!
No, not the real deal.
It is the wrong shape for existing games. To fit a game to that screen you would have to have blank spaces at each end to square the playing area.
To fill the screen the game would have to be zoomed in and then you would lose part of the game.
If the controller is that shape, then the whole screen will not be a playing area.
@zool it's the wrong shape for anything, i'd say. i do appreciate the effort of faking it as nintendo remains quiet.
This is as obviously wrong as the Android OS rumours.
@Shadowkiller97 @Kevlar44 Interesting, but I can't see Nintendo using revolutionary tech that's hardly been tested and used before by many others, they usually implement tech that has already been tried and tested, for obvious reasons (e.g. motion controls, touch controls).
I am pretty confident that this is fake.
This makes me sad. Like the New 3DS is the last great system by Nintendo sad. Like I am growing out of gaming sad. They could have made a controller shaped like a penis and I would have bought it as long as it had buttons. No buttons for me means they need to blow me away with the games , and for me that includes vast 3rd party support.
Liam Robertson has just posted a link to a Vine on his twitter feed showing the controller in motion with Zelda Wii U on it. Stating it's just a concept video:
https://vine.co/v/ipgFFbXMQAU
The Vine account belongs to someone called Tim Aza.
One must have the brain of a peanut thinking that thing is for real... hahaha
@Kevlar44 you were right, mate. Imagine if nintendo won the console wars only because of its advanced controller?
@JLPick Results from filtering the pictures through Photoshop are inconclusive but do show that these are photos of a real object in a real environment. I posted this one in an earlier comment:

According to people that know their Photoshop there is no evidence that it has been tampered with.
Other than that, even though it's an actual physical device, it can still be a mock-up or (if true after all) simply a dev kit controller, meaning that this is not the final design for the consumer version of it.
Whatever it end up to be, I fear we have a indication now of what it will be. With the Wii u there where rumors about a tablet-like controller, and we saw some images that where close to the real deal (If I am correct).
Now we saw the patent, and 2 times this oval-shaped controller. I say: We have to prepare ourselfes for a oval-shaped controller with a free-form screen and very little buttons. If I am happy with it? Depends on the games and if the controller feels right. But I don't think many developers wil support it.
Looks gimmick =/
I wasn't convinced by the Wii or even DS to start with, so I'll wait and see.
That better not be the controller. It looks crappy. There are no buttons just a touch screen. I still don't believe it.
I kinda hope they have buttons on the final version...otherwise what's the point of playing games on an actual system and not a tablet? It also looks uncomfortable to hold. Perhaps it's just a shop or something.
What if the shown device is the handheld part, and can be connected with another piece to have a complete controller...
Like This:
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30130354/PSX_20160324_143304.jpg
Well if that's the controller then i'm not sure i want it. I mean it has no buttons? And why the hell is it oval shaped? Is the screen oval too? Lol, me no like..
@JaxonH "And many people have grown fond of the gamepad. Most people just write it off without trying it though, despite the fact it is a normal controller. A screen doesn't make it control any worse."
No, not many people have grown fond of the gameplad. Nintendo fans? Sure. But my educated guess is that PS4 has outsold WiiU 3 to 1. And WiiU has sold about 1/9 of what Wii sold. SO few very people have even wanted to try the WiiU's gamepad. I like it, I'm a day 1 owner, but it's the clunky controller.
@TheRealThanos Wow. You're mature.
Liam also claimed a source told him the NX will be less powerful than PS4, so we'll see how trusted his sources are. I do assume this is a fake, however.
@NintendoFan990 How so? Just because I said "Oh man, the internet..."? Which was obviously just a comment made in jest, as made clear by the added smiley.
Or are you saying that people my age are only allowed to be serious all the time?
@MrJumpAndRun That would probably make it somewhat more palatable to a lot of us, but it would still smell like a smart phone peripheral, and that is probably exactly what most people don't want from Nintendo, but I guess there's nothing else to do for us than to sit and wait until Nintendo themselves finally decide to speak up and either debunk or confirm these rumors...
@XCWarrior
PS4 has outsold Wii U considerably, but I don't think the gamepad was a major factor. Aside from the anomaly that was Wii, Nintendo's previous console (GameCube) barely did better than Wii U, and it had a normal controller and 3rd party support. The Wii U sales situation runs deep and is far more complex than gamers simply rejecting the gamepad (even if that were true, it speaks to what I said earlier about people writing things off without even trying them).
The gamepad is clunky, but it's also very lightweight for its size and extremely comfortable.
I think many gamers just have no intention of playing Nintendo because it's cool to hate them now. So many PS4/X1 owners say they won't buy NX if it doesn't get multiplats, and I'm thinking, why? Do they plan on buying every game twice? Once on PS4, once on NX? Or do they just use it as an easy excuse to avoid it, rather than admit they only play what's socially popular?
this could be a real product that's not actually a Nintendo development kit or prototype; it could be a controller / handset from another manufacturer that's being posed as the NX.
And it just so happens to match the patent image so well? Isn't too soon for imitations? Even if simply a matter of design theft - boy, it takes serious guts to have your product take over that ugly duckling!
I don't believe this to be the NX- (Homemade contraption-iyam)
But let's say it turns out to be the real deal..
Aren't you peeps being too quick to dismiss, just a tad? I can understand the disappointment with the design, but we've still to learn of its 'Nintendo charm' & what games await!
@JaxonH So in a nutshell, you're saying Nintendo should give up on consoles, because the hardcore market isn't coming back, and just stick with a handheld that maybe can stream to the TV?
Which I'm fine with, and honestly, that's what I want NX to be. I want 3rd party support. I'm missing out on games right now because I don't have the time for a PS4, but there is plenty of reasons to own one.
If this is the final design for the controller, I may not even bother getting an NX. Where are the action buttons? It's just not the same fighting in Zelda or jumping in Mario without pressing a physical button (I don't care too much for smartphone games; they just don't feel right). Perhaps the time is right for me to consider switching to one of the other console manufacturers...
@XCWarrior
Well, I don't pretend to have the answers, but yes, that's what I'd like to see happen
@Tom41
Perhaps wait until we get confirmation before writing off entire platforms. This has been debunked already. But even if it weren't, I don't think this would be all touch. They'd either put buttons in the back easy to reach or, perhaps this haptic feedback technology is worth its salt. The STEAM controller was going to use the it so I have to believe it's at least half decent. Nintendo isn't so foolish to not implement capable controls. I'd be shocked if NX just had regular old touch controls and nothing else. No, I'd be amazed.
@XCWarrior
I liked the GamePad at first, then I got the PS4, and now it feels like crap in my hands again. And a common complaint I'd seen on the Miiverse was people wanting to play games without the GamePad.
I hope this isn't the stupid direction the NX controller is taking, but at the same time, I really wouldn't be surprised. Nintendo doesn't know how to actually do anything new with their franchises, so they make a new controller expecting that people won't notice... that they still aren't doing anything new. The biggest bragging Iwata made about DKC for the Wii U was "fur on the Kongs" while glossing over how it made the GamePad virtually pointless. Mario Kart 8 also doesn't do anything that couldn't be done on any other system.
If this is the controller, it's just another major hurdle to getting 3rd parties to give a crap, and is completely outside the major trends of the industry now, which is VR and augmented reality concepts--and those are incredibly popular.
If it's not a Nintendo device then wtf is it? Some weird streaming device like Nvidia Shield?
I doubt this will be the NX controller after how well the Wii U gamepad went down.
I'm expecting the next Nintendo handheld to have a clamshell design because that makes them more portable and it has always worked well for Nintendo.
best comment in the neogaf thread:
"What if you place the control into a VR headset and control the sticks with your eyeballs"
XD
I noticed the curve in the middle which seems to me to replace potential handles...
@Megumi I think the person that leaked this claimed it was a dev kit.
@JLPick #381 "To me, this looks like an image from a very old PC controller that came out 3 years ago and failed. Oh, what photoshop can do. This image looks incredibly fake and appeared last year..."
What are you talking about? Could you elaborate?
What do you mean by a 3-year-old controller? I never seen one like this, except in the Nintendo patent and the other recent "leak".
Also, these particular images certainly didn't appear last year.
@andrea987 Although Nintendo generally does believe in Gunpei Yokoi's "Lateral Thinking of Withered Technology" theory of using well known and cheap tech in new revolutionary ways it doesn't mean they aren't willing to innovate and try more technologically advanced things. The most obvious example is the 3D in a 3DS, Sattalview was very revolutionary in it's time, aspects of the VirtuaBoy's 3D technology were also very revolutionary despite it's Red and Black only display.
@Quorthon So let me get this right, you don't like the Gamepad and wish that Nintendo woud just make regular games for a regular controller, like Sony, yet you're upset that DKC didn't make use of the gamepad? You do know that the Wii U has a standard controller avaliable, called the Wii U Pro, that you can use if you find the Gamepad uncomfortable (i'll never get that POV but whatever) or not needed, and with games like DKC you actually got what you wished for. I see this hypocrisy all the time of "i want to use a regular controller yet i won't consider using the Wii U Pro controller when given the opportunity and will instead complain that the gamepad isn't being utilized". The gamepad was great for some games and for others it was just a handy device to play games on their own display, i love how Nintendo offers choice and many ways to play games why does everything have to be gamepad centric? So you can complain that you just want a regular controller?
@wiggleronacid Showing the hardware and explaining it (to some extent) before the E3 so that the event can be all about the games would be a very good idea indeed, and there is still an opportunity for Nintendo to do so, for example after the shareholder's meeting on April 27th, so they will have the entire month of May to give us a final Direct before the E3 arrives. Here's hoping... (although there's also something that tells me that we shouldn't hold our breath yet)
P.S.
One little niggle that I had with this part of your comment:
"That's the cool thing about marketing; there is no right or wrong way of doing things."
As a sales & marketing professional myself I can assure you that there definitely is a right or wrong way of doing things.
What is true, is that the moment of "the right way" to do things changes, or shifts to be more precise, which will then automatically change it into a wrong way.
The market doesn't wait for anyone, so unless you either have excellent timing to be able to jump into the fray at exactly the right moment OR you are a true innovator and have what it takes to single-handedly change or lead the market, you're simply too late and then that moment will be gone forever.
Another moment will always come along, but you must then once again adapt to the new situation, obviously.
Nintendo made the wrong decisions and had bad timing with the Wii U and its campaign, so here's hoping that they can do it right this time with NX, otherwise shares will plummet and they will be in an entirely different situation altogether.
Probably still far from being bankrupt, but more or less relegated to going handheld only, since that at least is a market they still truly own, even in the light of smart devices...
@Moshugan
I have no idea what he/she means for a controller, but I just watched that TERRIBLE Batman & Robin movie and there is something very similar Batman uses to show Mr. Freeze a video of his wife that looks just like this controller. I could not find or make a screen shot though.
Have no fear, the Nintendo Enthusiasts are here!
They offer us the answer in their "Nintendo NX Controller Secret Revealed" video:
But whether or not we can all sleep easy now, that is another question altogether...
And here their serious take on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hSku1GKNsU
@msvt Batman & Robin? It'd be hilarious if it turned out to be something like that!
This is the closest I could find:
Similar shape, otherwise completely different.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/07/18/holy-bat-gadgets
@allav866 I've been hearing rumors that NX is going to use 3d tactile rendering--which is similar to haptic feedback (coincidence that NX's controllers are also rumored to utilize haptic feedback?), which means the touch screen would be able to simulate buttons with a physical feel to them. Check out this video. Could be exciting if Nintendo decides to implement this technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo1n5CyCKr0
@Kevlar44 I've heard similar rumors. It's nice to hear someone think outside the box and view this controller from a perspective of optimism, instead of viewing it from a negative lens. While a lot of this is speculation, I hope to hear from Nintendo soon. The anticipation is driving me nuts.
Something I don't hear a lot of people talking about but which I think merits some thought is whether this may be what akin to what both Sony and Microsoft did last gen with the PS3 and 360, and that is that these leaked images are of a refined version of the Wii U. Coupled with the rumor that Nintendo may be shutting down production of the Wii U this year, it makes sense that Nintendo would potentially be shutting down production of the older version of the same product in order to start selling what may perhaps be a less costly and possibly all around better version of the Wii U. Just some food for thought.
Creator of these fake controller images has admitted he faked this controller.
Made a video bragging about how he did it
http://nintendoeverything.com/initial-nx-controller-leak-revealed-as-a-fake-by-its-creator/
Been confirmed fake, thank goodness, it looked hideous
@Moshugan
hahah!! I think so! Soo funny. And also, sorry if you had to watch that "movie" to find it. Good job getting a screen shot.
@Ben_Rage_V2
Neat link, i've never heard of that technology and i'm thinking one would actually have to use it to really grasp it's true potential. Whether or not these images are real or fake i find speculating on possible designs very interesting. Nintendo seems to always think out of the box and do something unexpected and innovative, and honestly they haven't let me down yet. I do think the gamepad could/should of been much better but the Wii U has thus far been an excellent system and the gamepad has brought a ton of enjoyment into my household. I also know Miyamoto in the past has stated that touchscreen buttons don't work for traditional gaming experiences, and are more suitable to smaller more casual games. I highly doubt we end up with a controller that doesn't have the capability to play games in a more traditional manner.
As for you're point on negativity, i agree. It's crazy to me that people who know nothing about what the controller may do or the possibilities that exsist are so up in arms over it. Heck they don't even know if it's real. It could suck, but it could also be beyond anything a person ever thought possible. Nintendo's been making excellent games for a long time and even if you don't cre for the gamepad or WiiMote they've never made a controller you couldn't have fun with, either via traditional means or new inventive styles.
@msvt Nah, I didn't have to watch anything, thanks to the list IGN had assembled.
@JaxonH Finally! I wonder if the later poster "perkele37" is the same guy as this.
@TheRealThanos I should have worded myself differently with the marketing comment. What I meant is that there isn't just one way of doing things as you can market things in different ways and be successful in varying degrees (depending on the situation, of course). There obviously are wrong ways of doing things, and like you said, you need to wait for the market to be ready as the market won't wait for you. Sorry about my wording earlier!
@Moshugan If you look back at some of the web sites about nintendo NX on the internet, this same image of a controller appeared and was dated 2015. I've seen it before and thought it looked incredibly fake (looked like someone just put a game image sticker on it). Thought it was weird back then, and surprised that it's showing up again. Just type in Nintendo NX and it should pop up on one of the pages from the past.
@wiggleronacid No need to apologize, it just seemed to me that you didn't really understand marketing and I'm quite passionate about my trade, so I just had to react to that. Hope you can relate to that.
Other than that, no hard feelings whatsoever, so no sorry's needed...
@Ben_Rage_V2 That looks like some cool tech to use in a console or a smart device, but I don't think it can be implemented in an affordable way at the moment, so I can't see Nintendo using this.
Then again: it's still Nintendo we're talking about here, and they always do things their own way, so you may never know what they have up their sleeves...
@KoopaTheGamer nuff said
@KoopaTheGamer nuff said
@rishisquid nuff said
@SakuraHaruka there's always some truth in rumours dear
@Triple-Dragon chicken chaser
@Alucard83
Yes, but if "my life" is affected because the rumor is not good, then, you think it's good to give "great" importance?
I mention this because as seen by here and wherever, many to overreact even if in the end turns out to be false, but, well..., and excuse my expression, but, well, "That's their/your problem".
@yuwarite I never claimed that. It was just speculation.
@LiamR "I never claimed that. It was just speculation."
1. I said Liam claimed a source told him, not Liam Robertson himself. My direct quote: "Liam also claimed a source told him"
2. This is the direct quote from Liam Robertson:
"The NX is definitely not aiming to compete with the likes of PS4 on a power level. Absolutely sure of that now."
If you are Liam, first learn to read, and learn to be careful of what words you use. Don't say you're "absolutely sure" if it's a speculation.
Play Nice
~Waluigi
@LiamR If you want someone to respectfully address you, have the respect to not misread that person and imply something they didn't...
"I never claimed a source told me anything about that at the time."
When someone asked you, in response to that tweet: "What makes you say that?", you responded with: "Talking to the right people". Those "people" are the "source" in question here.
If you want to retract that tweet or whatever, fine. Those were the 2 tweets that were spread around the Internet and here on NintendoLife. Damien McFerran did not provide the further context you speak of in that article, so take it up with him.
Regardless, we and NintendoLife should be dubious of you. You're "just some guy saying stuff on Twitter" afterall; someone that will say they're "absolutely sure" of a speculation...
Lastly, all I said was learn to read (because you did misread me) and you respond calling me a "judgemental jerk", that's not being respectful and it's against the TOS. You should apologise. Just because I proved you wrong, there's no need to respond like a maniac.
@yuwarite You did not prove me wrong. I made those comments and thus, I determine whether or not they were speculation. They absolutely were. There is no proving that wrong, no matter how you twist my words. Me having some information as far as discussing it with people behind the scenes does not stop it from being speculation.
Respect is earned. You implied that I couldn't read over comments I made about a video game. An attack. You cast the first stone there.
I'm not apologising. NintendoLife trusts me because I have proven to them privately time and again I can be trusted. I'm above the ToS.
Not reading anymore of your pedantic comments, so don't waste your time replying. Tread carefully if you want to continue on this site and don't be so rude in future when someone corrects you.
@LiamR Let's discuss this like adults.
You stated in a Tweet:
"The NX is definitely not aiming to compete with the likes of PS4 on a power level. Absolutely sure of that now."
You used the words, "definitely" and "absolutely".
You can not be "definitely" or "absolutely" sure of something you claim to know and admit is a "speculation".
This is what I'm proving you wrong about. You can not use those words in regards to speculation. You were wrong. End of discussion.
And you just said:
"So what if I was absolutely sure of it? What does that matter? I'm just some guy saying stuff on Twitter. It was obvious it was just the speculation of an excited fan."
This I take as a concession of you admitting mistake.
The argument is over.
And no, you instigated this discussion. You replied to me saying:
"I never claimed that. It was just speculation."
In response to my comment:
"Liam also claimed a source told him the NX will be less powerful than PS4, so we'll see how trusted his sources are."
There's nothing incorrect about my comment that required your response. And your reply doesn't even make much sense...
You never claimed it? I'm not accusing you directly, but your sources.
It was just speculation? Yes it was, but you still stated you were "absolutely sure" of the speculation being true.
This article mentions you by name; I'm making a comment about you which pertains to the article. I'm not randomly calling you out for no reason.
And no, evidently you're not above the ToS, you were modded for insulting me with language that is not appropriate for a family safe site.
You can be trusted to some extent. But evidently there are also times when you behave like "an excited fan" and make bold statements that are based on speculation.
If these Tweets are proven false, you will forever have them associated with your name. And perhaps that's why you're being so defensive. Perhaps you feel your record is on the line or something, I don't know.
I conducted myself in a reasonable manner. You didn't. You need to sort out your ego issues. You have a fanbase and you're letting them down with this kind of behaviour.
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