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@Yosher Don’t get me wrong. I’d love to see a new FZero. I think it can be made mainstream so that it could sell enough. I just don’t see Nintendo bringing it back any time soon. I doubt EPD would even consider developing it so it’d most likely need to be an outside studio. I wish they’d build up NST again for racing/sports games

@Yosher Mario Kart is Nintendo's number 1 franchise. F-Zero is not even in their top 20. That's why we don't see F-Zero anymore and why it kind of sucks that there hasn't been (fully) new Mario Kart in 7 years.

@ModdedInkling That makes sense. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some disappointed developers. The WiiU sold poorly so it kinda sucks if you want to see your game do well

@ModdedInkling Both of those games wouldn’t have been developed if Nintendo hadn’t financed them. And If Nintendo pays for the game it is a first party title. It’s not an “exclusivity” deal like with Bravely Default 2 or something

I imagine Bayonetta 2 developers were happy to be able to develop the game, but the sales were just disappointing.

@Azuris Yeah. It could be a good opportunity, but I think Nintendo probably wouldn’t want the 3d team to make a 2d game. They’d prefer the 3d Mario team to make a 3d game and the 2d team to make a 2d game since they are more suited. But some rumors say it’s a 3d game, so we’ll see.

Why would the 3d Mario Team work on 2d Donkey Kong? The 2d Mario team would be better suited no? Plus 3d Mario is selling more than 2d now so I think Nintendo would want another 3d Mario game.

I think companies like Platinum, Grasshopper, Playtonic, and MercurySteam could be good purchases.

Who knows if Nintendo will purchase any companies any time soon, though

@meeto_1 At least in Japan, the number 1, 3 and 6th most selling titles last week for the Switch were third party. All with around 2 million sales. That is pretty impressive.

@BloodNinja Because of what you said, I've never purchased a game based on its Eshop description. It's too bad that they have only made some minor improvements to it after 4 years. It should have been made much better at least by the end of the first year.

@Mackocaster7 The article makes the assumption that this is for BOTW2, but I am not sure why they made that assumption

@Varkster The Switch’s install base is over 80 million. I’d guess that is similar to or possibly larger than the PS4 in 2018.

@westman98 Pretty much every other game NDCube has been developing since Mario Party 9 is a Mario Party game. Basing it off their history, their next game will be one as well, though it could be a smart phone game.

@JJ_Brum NDCube released Clubhouse Games last year so maybe next year for the next installment?

@everynowandben Thank you. I do like old school RPGs. So I think I’ll download them then and give them a go.

With 273 employees, they are probably working on 2 games not counting BOTW2.

I'm thinking of getting this trilogy for the WiiU. Is it really all it's cracked up to be?

Maybe someday Nintendo will remake the trilogy like they are doing for Famicom Detective.

@victordamazio Copyright expiration has been greatly extended. But I think trademarks don’t usually become public domain so even if the copyright expired on Mario 64, Nintendo would still possess the trademark.

@Crono1973 Because of what you said, the mainstream music industry shifted almost completely to crappy, overproduced singles after that. And music has come to be less and less rich in timbre. It also has come to have much less of an impact on society.

There have been some positives. Like now it is easy and cheap to access a wide array of music. So there is more potential to get exposed to a large variety of music.

@Whitestrider Yeah, and If it’s bad for developers, that will affect gamers. The quality of music has declined tremendously since YouTube and Itunes came about... Games take much more work to develop so I can’t imagine how much it will affect gaming.

@anoyonmus What kind of restrictions would there be on an American company buying a Japanese one? Like Sharp was bought by a Taiwanese company and Toshiba was recently in talks of being bought out by an English company.

@westman98 1-2 Switch just used the joycons and there is a lot more that can be done with joycons that hasn’t been done. Nintendo may not have the personnel to really make use of them though

They’d have to evolve upon the Sports franchise though or it may go the way of brain training like you say. The difference is mobile is awash with brain training apps. Games like Wii Sports are not easy to recreate on mobile.

@Caryslan Microsoft seems more likely to me. If they bought Square Enix they would vastly improve their market share. Right now, people who buy Square Enix titles are much more likely to own a Sony system. Also Microsoft has been making huge purchases of late

Though Tencent is a possibility too.

Nintendo seems least likely to me.

@Kanbolara The dev stumbled on a hit with Ring Fit, though. Labo was an interesting experiment that looks like something that was released too soon after R&D was finished. I don’t understand why they don’t create a Switch Sports, though

@johnvboy It is incredibly hard to get a PS5 in Japan still. You have to do either a lottery or You’ll pay about $1000

It sounds like a lot but then you find out their stake is only 1.4%. That's much smaller than what Nintendo owns of Cygames yet you don't see Cygames discussed on this website.

@tourjeff Yeah.. ND Cube worked on Clubhouse games after finishing Mario Party rather than working on DLC.. But Clubhouse was probably their best game so far. Hopefully the next Mario Party will offer more in terms of content

@Wavey84 A new Kid Icarus that develops on what Uprising started would be exciting, but I think Pikmin 4 would also be exciting.

Pikmin is a much more solid franchise. The first two Kid Icarus games were somewhat mediocre at the time, which is probably why Nintendo abandoned the series.

@Wavey84 Pikmin 3 DX has sold much better than Kid Icarus Uprising, though.. And Pikmin is a more interesting series.

@cdmac I think my major qualm with C# is that it kind of forces you into object oriented programming but I don't really like the idea of programming paradigms in software engineering and think they have held the field back greatly.

But I think the concepts introduced in OOP can be quite nice when applied well. The problem is for some reason too many programmers just don't do OOP well. Abusing inheritance or not making proper use of aggregations. Now you see people migrating away from object oriented programming and going to more a functional/relational style, especially in JavaScript. But from my perspective it has made code even harder to read because so many people lack good fundamentals, just hack together code and are too reliant on frameworks.

My specialty is in machine learning so for me memory and compute is a huge issue so I use C++ primarily for performance optimization of matrix operations. Though performance optimization is by no means my area of expertise.

@Lord demo feedback probably isn’t going to make a really bad game good.. especially with just one round of feedback that is late in the development cycle.

@cdmac Yeah, I agree. it’s an opinion. that’s why I said “i think”. I use both C++ and C# and don’t have a really strong preference. But C# came after C++ and Java so it was able to build on those languages with a better design and has less historical baggage. If a game like this doesn’t perform well, it’s cause of the programmer, not because of C#.

@cdmac C# is a really nice language, though... Better than C++. But not nearly as good for performance optimization, which means it’s fine for indie titles.

Doesn’t sound like he really wants it to be his last. I hope Nintendo gives him one more chance at greatness with another project.

Not familiar with that title, but I hope they make a Simpsons Arcade spiritual successor

I don’t think any of the titles in the list fit AR well.

I think Mario Golf or Nintendogs would be more interesting.

@everynowandben I named several and listed several other mechanisms for character growth, but you have already made up your mind and keep bringing up experience points.

1) RPGs are defined by advancing your character(s).
2) So-called experience points are not necessary for doing that, since I named several other mechanisms for advancing your character that can be used which contradicts your point that experience points are required for character growth.

Honestly, I would probably go further and say you don't really have a character unless your choices for how you build the character affect the game narrative in some way, but I won't do that here.

I figure you won't change your mind but I don't really understand why you'd want such a narrow view of what an RPG is anyhow (i.e. that it needs experience points) as that limits what developers can do in the genre.

@everynowandben

I can understand why people get confused about this since the majority of RPGs use experience points. But RPGs are not defined by them as experience points is only one way that you can advance a character.

I should have qualified it slightly more in that you choose have some choice in your player’s growth. Without that you aren’t really advancing the character, the game already made those decisions for you. Like In Mega Man and Metroid, there is very little choice as you have to get the power ups in order to progress. And I can’t say anything about Sticker Star since I haven’t played it but it could be an RPG.

There are many other possibilities for character growth such as skill trees. Class changes, jobs etc are another means. Affinity like in Fire Emblem are another. BOTW uses shrines instead of experience points. Zelda 2 uses point bags. Final Fantasy Legend 2 has the monster race that eats meat from fallen enemies to level up and the robot that collects parts. It would be an RPG even if it only had monsters and robots.

@everynowandben Maybe those games are RPGs, but you'd have to name them for me to say. A lot of games these days are RPGs.

RPG means "role playing game" and is defined by character growth. It's simply not necessary to have experience points. That is just one mechanic to facilitate character growth. Like some tabletop RPGs do not have experience points.

@DaniPooo In Zelda 2 and BOTW, though, growing your character is a large part of the experience. So those are definitely RPGs. In BOTW though you have to seek out shrines (which are what gives you experience). In other Zelda games much of the growth is not really a choice so I think they are somewhat RPGs but not full RPGs.

@everynowandben Experience points do not make a game an RPG, being able to grow your character does. All Zelda games offer this to some extent or another, but BOTW and Zelda 2 offer it the most.

Honestly, this looks kinda bad compared to the real game (though I cannot view it in 8k). Shows that just adding effects does not make a game look better.

@Heavyarms55 The sensor bar is pretty old tech compared to what the Switch joycons have. They have an IR camera, accelerometer and gyroscope. I haven't played Skyward Sword so don't know if the IR camera is necessary, but the accelerometer and gyroscope will probably be used for sword camera. If it requires pointing at the screen, they'll use the IR camera for that (like Wonderful World of Goo did on the Switch).

@sanderev Yeah. No doubt. But I’d say they made it worth it with this one cause it wasn’t a straight port and added a bunch. Some of their other WiiU ports didn’t add as much. Though I’m still not sure I’ll buy it cause I have it on the WiiU.

I can someone understand the sentiment, but this really reads like a third rate youtuber-like article trying to fan the flames but not based on facts. Nintendo’s done a lot more than the article would have you believe. Nintendo put out Stretchers, GoodJob, Snipperclips, Astral Chain, Sushi Striker, Buddy Bond, probably much more

It also misses that new IP and new idea is not the same thing. Old IP can bring new ideas and new IP can just be derivative (which is often the case)

Is this game good? I never played it back in the day.

@Yorumi I can understand your sentiments. I think the Pokémon Company has different dna from Nintendo though. Nintendo tries to up the ante with each new core title, but I think Pokémon Company plays it much more safe. From the looks of it, this may be a safe title but I hope they truly try to take things to the next level.

@Yorumi I imagine it will come at the end of 2022, which still gives them 18 months, but yeah, it’s not in very good shape. It looks like they are trying to take a step forward but don’t have the human resources to do it. I guess Monolithsoft was not available to work on this with them.

@Itachi2099 Probably cause it is not coming til 2022. Most people that really want it won't wait a year for the PC version.

Detective Pikachu 2 perhaps? Though I’d like Pokken 2

@GrailUK I think it's up to people to decide if something is overpriced to them. But whether it's objectively overpriced or not will be decided by the market.
What irks me a little more is that it is an HD remaster with improvements and not just a port like some claim. I wonder how many of them will purchase it despite complaining, though.