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@Captain_Toad lol this guy wins it. essentially came here to post largely the same thing. This is a head scratching decision for sure.

First off, we need to start distinguishing the 3D offerings from the 2D offerings, same with Zelda.

For a 3D Mario, Galaxy 2 is tops.

@Donutman are you guys honestly comparing smart phones to game console right now?

The only thing scary about DOOM on Switch is that 30fps limitation.

Anyone that has played DOOM on any other console will agree that 30fps in that game is criminal. That's like releasing Mario Kart 8 at 30fps.

how about free gifting us that DLC 2

This only further confirms Nintendo's lack of an initiative to progress into cloud storage.

Also confirms their lack of interest in making Online gaming a key focus of their business.

Two HUGE reasons I'm no longer a Nintendo only gamer.

@Jayvir "It's reasons like this... that should be evident why people aren't reviewers."

wat.

Had I known all this time that reviewers are actually robots this all would have made so much more sense! This explains everything!

@Minotaurgamer have to agree with you here, despite all the NDF fanboy hate you're coming under fire for.

Look, Odyssey is another Nintendo masterpiece of game design and blah blah blah we get it. But I must say, ever since I stopped being a Nintendo only gamer and branched out into other waters, coming back and firing up Odyssey just felt like "here we go again" and I'm kinda over it. Like, sure, it's a great game but I've kind of moved onto other gaming experiences. Like, Wolfenstein II is utterly amazing and unlike any Nintendo game I've ever played up to this point. The story telling and characters are off the charts. Frankly, Odyssey just felt like SM3dWorld on steroids.

Breath of the Wild is the kind of experience that makes me excited for Nintendo again, not Odyssey.

Wolfenstein 2

No way in hell this game is better than Breath of the Wild.

@Moon great transitive reasoning there, champ.

@BAN does the pro controller have hd rumble? If i were to ever own a switch I'd play almost exclusively with one.

@thesilverbrick Wolfenstein says hello.

Of course, not on Switch. Because Nintendo fans and all.

Probably exactly why it's not releasing on Switch tomorrow.

@BAN see now that description sounds awesome. I'd love to give that a shot.

When I say in spurts I mean whenever my brother brings his over, not necessarily like at a store kiosk or something. I've sunk a few solid hours and multiple titles into Switch.

@BAN shrug I never noticed anything in the spurts that I've played Switch.

In contrast, on XB1, they have rumbling triggers in addition to the traditional rumble, and it's pretty sweet in racing games for example. Very noticeable and pleasant.

@hcfwesker ... Or a 4 year old PS4.

@XenoShaun btw, what's the deal with HD rumble these days? Are developers even utilizing it any more? Does it offer anything to the play experience?

@G0dlike because Nintendo.

@MariOnline exactly. Nintendo and online do not mix.

Booking this day 1 on the ole xbox there

@MariOnline "more games is good. More people buy the switch. Bigger audience more people to play Mario kart and splatoon with"

The saddest part about this comment is that those two games are probably literally the only two games you'll be able to find anyone online to play with.

"I believe that it fails to grasp some of the core ingredients that many 3D Zelda games possess."

This is ironically one of the core reasons it's my favorite Zelda ever.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE the only "disgrace" here is Nintendo's storage limitations.

@Damo sounds like a Nintendo problem to me.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE GCN is your favorite? You must be under 30 years old.

How about you just drop the DLC pack 2 already, Ninty?

@Shiryu speaking of Need for Speed U, Criterion figured out a way around the digital triggers beautifully. Map the acceleration and braking to the right analog stick (up for accel, down for brake). Problem solved, and it worked perfect.

@TossedLlama MS for the win.

You guys really need to chill out with the inflated review scores.

Tried it on Xbox One (for free, thanks to MS actually understanding how the modern gaming industry works) and found it kinda meh.

It's easy to have a better release schedule of "new" games when half of them are just Wii U re-releases.

But yeah, Wii U was doomed since the conception of the name Wii U. Then it was further doomed by the clunky GamePad. Then further doomed the moment the first person that used one tried to literally go into another room with it and it cut off. And yes, the software droughts and lack of 3rd party support.

Also how it was essentially as powerful as a PS360 yet released 6 years later.

Still can't believe you guys left the review scoreless.

@JaxonH one flaw in your argument though. PS3 and 360 are over a decade old. And still receiving relevant, mainstream titles like FIFA.

Now, should they be 60? I dunno, but if the market demand is there then more power to them.
There's a bigger point here though, in that Sony and MS have both figured out something Nintendo has either lost or been too arrogant to admit, and because of that, continues to do things like allow their consoles to be supported a decade after release. Hats off to them.

@BLP_Software blame Nintendo.

Damn, the thirst for Switch games is real.

i think this has already happened. There's more switches rotting on store shelves in my area than i care to count.

@Ralek85 yeah, Nintendo is pretty terrible at all things 'modern gaming industry', save for Breath of the Wild.

Once the Switch fad drops off, much like the Wii fad did, it's going to be business as usual for the last place company.

@Cosats if it's a download only title it is.

@electrolite77 "There seems to be very little appetite for another competitor to PS4 etc."

It will be interesting to see how the Xbox One X fares.

@Sentinator Need For Speed on Wii U was actually the definite version. It even used assets from the PC build!

@MsJubilee you're missing the other side to this argument: all the Nintendo fans that whine and complain about no 3rd party games.

@Shellcore most people who like 3rd party gaming of any kind have already bought a PS or XB. Not just FIFA.

@Folkloner "Nintendo fans just don't want our games"

It's true though. Only Nintendo fans are to blame for the 3rd party woes. Well, fans and Nintendo themselves.

@gcunit I'd say you're the one butthurt here.

OH NDFers....

@SLIGEACH_EIRE physical is only better on Nintendo consoles due to Nintendo's own incompetence.

@NEStalgia yeah i guess so. For me, i have a wife and kid and so when I'm home, there's no gaming time in front of a TV or away from one, until the kid goes to bed. When I'm not home, the last thing I'm trying to do is fit in 10-15 min on a AAA game through a 6 inch screen.

Just my use case though.

@GuruOfGreatness along those lines, do you often find yourself having many quick pick up and play sessions with AAA games on Switch?

Lotta people saying "nothing for me this week". Yet, another big AAA 3rd party title drops in FIFA. Where's the support, Nintendo fans?

@GuruOfGreatness i just don't get this line of thinking. How is it you don't have time for games like that, but you actually do have time for games like that on the go? If you're playing a game like GTA whether it's in front of your TV or outside on your porch, isn't it still consuming your time all the same?

Switch needs things like day one Red Dead 2 or day one GTA 6.

This stuff would be cool and all, but damn they are old games.

@ACK i know you're trying to be cute but people buying Minecraft on Switch and 3DS are of the most dedicated of Nintendo fans. Also known as the frequenters of this site (and places like gonintendo, Nintendo Everything, etc..).