Video: 11 Reviews for Super Mario Odyssey that Are So Bad They're Good

Some are very dumb. But honestly the game is kinda being overhyped. It's a good game not a great one. I find interesting how nobody cannot give a criticism of this game or else will get labeled as a troll.

@Minotaurgamer
Sorry, but Super Mario Oddysey is in a word great. If this is not an objectively great game, then I guess we can just dispose with the notion that such a thing exist at all.

It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but the quality of game-design and execution should be apparent to just about every single person that has ever played a video game.

There are idiots out there... but hey, most reviews were right on par and the few that were bad are clearly as you said, “fools”.

Mario Odyssey is very balanced and quite a joy to play. Kids can play, experts can play, and both are able to enjoy the game. Now back to attempting the 100-jump jump rope challenge for the 100th time... ugn...

@AlexOlney I have to applaud you for not calling everyone on there a bunch of - pick an expletive - ..... 😆

I could tell how frustrated you were getting while reading some of those. Been there man, it's hard to deal with ignorance!

Sounds like gamefaqs posters hard at work over at metacritic!

I traded in Bored in the Wild to get Odessey a couple of days ago and I'm having a good time with it. I definitely don't get the hype though. It's a nice 3D platformer that provides a light hearted distraction, but I don't see why so many seem to be losing their minds over it.

Easily the best game on Switch and quite simply the best game I've played for many many years. Everything is just a joy to do, whether its getting chased by a T-rex, riding a scooter, playing one of the mini games or simply kicking some paint cans. I'm near the end of the Luncheon Kingdom and I've been through a painting to a certain other kingdom 😉. Having grown up with Nintendo games this is a love letter to many of them from Mario Bros to World to Kirby and back to Mario 64 and Sunshine, with the best elements taken from each. Without a doubt this is in my top 5 games of all time and brings a smile to my face every time I play it

5:36 I played F-Zero GX with my feet for giggles back in the day... challenge accepted! lol

I hate it when people rate the game for its fanbase. Yes, its overhyped but should that make the game look bad? Its one of the biggest Mario games to date with expansive levels with large post game content. It adds a ton of new features and gameplay never seen in Mario Before. Its a true love letter to the mario series with all the costumes and references to previous games. (In New Donk City some of the street signs have names of diffrent members of the Kong family, like Dixie and Cranky) Its one of the best looking and best running switch games so far with 60 FPS and 1080p. It has that Nintendo polish with hardly any bugs, glitches, or poorly thought out sections. And its a full game with a vast amount of content that does not require Microtransactions or Lootboxes to unlock. Super Mario Odyssey is still an amazing game and it is one of the best Mario games made, especially in recent years. It may be overhyped but that does not mean the game should be torn down because of it. Its an amazing game that had blood, sweat, and tears put in. I'm glad its gotten over 2 Million sales so far. And I can't wait to see what Nintendo's got in store for next year.

There will always be haters. Just ignore them because you cant fight them

@Minotaurgamer All reviews are subjective, but the balance of opinion is that Super Mario Odyssey is a great game. That doesn't mean you're wrong if you think it's merely a good game - it just makes you an outlier. Congratulations - you are different. Just like the reviewers in the video. But maybe not as different as them...

Does this contain spoilers?

@yeayeanaynay Opinions, opinions... everyone has one.
In my time playing the game I found that all the things you say are totally untrue. But that is just from my point of view.
You don't like it and that's totally fine.
What I don't get is people insisting that it's a bad game just because it's not their cup of tea... like if they were the center of the universe and their opinions godly law... oh well...

Lol love seeing these kind of reviews. Odyssey is a great game, but to call it a masterpiece it's a tough pill for me to swallow personally. Review wise and reception wise it's a legendary game, but for me it kinda felt below Galaxy 2. Now I'll admit that I haven't progressed more than the Lake Kingdom but those were my first impressions... Perhaps it was because I compared it too much to BotW, a true masterpiece. Hopefully my feeling will change as I progress further

@maruse Kind of like how lazy bums were complaining about the breakable weapons in BotW. They're too lazy to find new weapons and too stupid to manage them properly. Sad that people treat their opinions as fact and fact as opinions.

@Yasaal finish it first and then review it. The other way around is unwise.

I keep thinking in two words while playing this game: "gaming perfection", but that doesn't mean it will be everyone's cup of tea. I can see that, I can see people prefering the galaxies as they were more focused experiences

Odyssey it's far from a masterpiece.. it's a good game, but definitely not on my top 5 Super Mario games. As has been said before: it's really easy (even the post game), the placement of moons is really cheap sometimes ( you don't even have to jump or do any plataforming in some cases to get one .. just walk), the "kingdoms" are more Stages than kingdoms, they are small and let you with the feeling that it's not as open world as they made it look... If i had to rate it now, i'll rate it with a 8.5/10. It looks like an introductory Mario to me, but for players like us who followed the plumber's adventures since the days of mario 64, it's kind of a let down.

One of the complaints I see popping up again and again from consumers is that the game has little challenge, until the very end. I hope that isn't true. I've been playing SM3DW lately(I'm on World 6) and it's really annoyed me that the game is so easy, I dislike the game for also being a lazy copy and paste effort of SM3DL. I don't know how it reviewed so high. Wii U never got a true 3D Mario experience. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker was also very easy, I stopped playing it on the 3rd or 4th book. Odyssey looks miles better than SM3DW and a proper 3D game. Actually, when you think about it, it's an insult that they used 3D in the title. I haven't played SM3DW in probably a month or more at this stage. I made several Miiverse posts giving out about how ridiculously easy it was.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAADAAADV44et7tO8w

Odyssey is the best 3D Mario game.

@yeayeanaynay And I didn't accused you of saying it is a bad game (though it is clear by your comments). That last paragraph of my post was in a general sense not directed to you specifically. Notice I said "people" not "you".
I don't have "blind loyalty" for Nintendo (not any other company for that matter), I don't even like some of the games they make. I just find the game to be really good and found your comments totally inaccurate from my point of view. You said that Nintendo has lost its spark of creativity, and I think that, of all gaming companies in business right now, Nintendo is almost the only one with any kind of creativity spark...
And getting back to the game... my only complain (so far) is that it is very, very easy. But that doesn't detract from the enjoyment that it is providing so far. It is the best 3D Mario game I've ever played.

You will see zero scores off the back of any Triple A release. I do not agree with it, but users that score this low would argue it is to balance the sea of tens from other users. I dislike this practise, but then again, I also dislike straight tens for games that don't deserve it. I don't know what Odyssey deserves as I haven't played it, but framing low scoring reviews as being "salty". Noone has that much to lose from Mario Odyssey doing well, surely?!

Titles like 'masterpiece' or 'overrated / overhyped' are all subjective. Stop using them as facts.

@Zach777 well i dont know, while you are right, the experts can be bored during the moments focused on kids

@maruse He's playing ya, mate.

@Desy64 True. But because there's too many Switch titles to choose from one can either go one by one and then play catch up or go by first impressions and I was a part of the first group for Zelda. Later on as the summer season went by there were too many good games to play and I had to go by first impressions and skipping some titles (Like Pokken and Mario + Rabbids). Knowing the mostly positive reviews, I'm sure I'll return to Odyssey and hopefully finish it by Christmas

@SLIGEACH_EIRE SM3DW is designed in the same way as Odyssey: easy to get to the credits, increasingly difficult post game. I bet you will not be able to finish the very last level of 3D World, due to its platforming difficulty.

The challenges (so far) in the post game of Odyssey is how to reach some the moons, or to be able to even find them. I doubt most people have found all the 836 moon missions of Odyssey at this early point in time.

Were they all out of medium Nintendo Life t-shirts?

@Minotaurgamer This game is -honestly- not overhyped. It deserves the praise all the way. I say so, the rest of the readers say so, the reviewers say so, the sales say so.

I really liked this video but I feel I must score it a 0/10 simply to balance out all the 10/10 it’s bound to get. Plus I’ve heard people say it’s really easy to watch so I’m going to use their opinion as mine so people know I’m good at games. Hashtagworstgameever!

As some have stated, definitely finish the game before you make a final opinion. The first few kingdoms, I was a little underwhelmed but the more I play it, the more I enjoy it. And the post game content really is awesome.

It’s funny that people complain about difficulty in a mario game. They haven’t been difficult since Sunshine. They always are really easy and then the very final (post game) level is suddenly ridiculously hard. Lol.

i was actually hoping for some 'Polygon plays Doom' style shenanigans, this seems to be just sonic fans and trolls

This has to be the lowest form of journalism.

@Minotaurgamer "not a great game"!? It may not be to your tastes, but nobody in their right mind could argue this isn't a great game. It already sits alongside the genuine classics and is my opinion once the dust settles will be even better received. A true masterpiece for the ages.

@Starbuster you sir are blind and/or soulless.

In all honesty, I think the game looks very cool for what it is . . . but I don't think it's anywhere near the 10/10 that most reviewers have been giving it. There's just too many little clunky/lazy design issues for me to think it's worth that kind of score: The HUG/GUI looks amateur and fugly; most of the levels still suffer from that thing where they look like big obstacle courses stuck in half-hearted skyboxes (it makes the worlds feel small and unimpressive regardless of the size of the levels); the art style in some of the levels just looks kind fugly to me (and the visual styles never seem to mix together properly as if they all belong in the same artistic universe. I mean the near-monotone, gritty and oppressive, and "realistic" look of Dark Souls doesn't belong in the same game world as bright and colorful, flat-shaded-polygon vegetable land. Those are two different visual styles for two totally different games); it feels like a lot of random gameplay ideas miss-mashed into one game but never truly looks like a cohesive whole to me (It's like a bunch of different teams were working on different games and then just decided to join them all together by putting Mario stuff in there); the whole plot device with Cappy being a sentient hat from a hat world where everything is somehow hat related and everyone wears hats in the game now for no reason, so on hat and hat hat hat, is just too amateur and forced imo (Nintendo could have come up with a better way to explain this very cool hat gameplay mechanic in the context of the world--it's been very lazy with this kind of stuff in many recent Mario games imo); the boss battles all being stuck inside these artificial and forced rings/barriers is just lazy design (again, Nintendo could have come up with much better and more natural ways of cordoning off areas during battles if it really wanted to, like staging them on giant pillars where if you fall off the edge you die, or having some of them inside caves that have natural edges/barriers, or staging one on the roof of a tall building or the deck of a ship floating in water, or whatever); and so on and on (visible pop-in in many levels, apparently it's extremely easy for most of the game, there's a bit of waggle controls and you'll lose a small selection of non-essential but still cool moves if you choose to turn them off . . .).

Now, to be clear, I'm not saying the game isn't great (it obviously still is regardless of all my criticisms and nitpicks); I'm just saying that with all the niggles I have with it personally, I wouldn't be scoring it a 10/10, that's for sure. It would probably be an 8/10 for me based on what I've seen at least (and, yes, maybe it would score a little lower or maybe a little higher if I actually played it--but those issues are still there regardless).

And, just to be extra clear also, despite not having played it firsthand, pretty much every one of my niggles is obviously something you can observe with your eyes as being a real thing too (without playing it directly), whether you agree with them being a negative or not; so don't come out with the same tired old crap of "You haven't even played it, blah, blah, blah". I'm still entitled to call out the issues that I can see with my own eyes in the multiple hours of gameplay footage I've watched--and that's what I'm doing.

People discussing being 'too easy' - point missed entirely. This is a game designed to be as difficult or as easy as required. It's an adventure game in the purest terms. This game - if any videogame can be - is a 10, 100%, Essential, whatever you want to call it.

The ones that are super dumb are kind of cute.

When people miscontrue the entire reason for why Mario games exist, seemingly on purpose even, then it starts making them look shallow and willfully ignorant, however.

These are funny. I will say though, that Odyssey is different, both for good and bad reasons in my opinion.

My biggest gripe with it is that my OCD starts to kick-in and I feel compelled to collect as many Moons (and every Purple Coin) as possible before moving onto the next Kingdom - which kind of impacts my experience negatively. Sounds a little daft, but it stops my sessions from flowing as they should - especially as it's not made clear to you which Moons are actually obtainable at that point in time, and which you need to come back for.

@SharkAttackU Of course you can dislike the game, but saying 'New Donk City' is terrible let's me guess, that you played another game...
Reading all of your comments shows: It's really sad, that you try to sell your hate about Nintendo as an opinion. Hate them, but just say it truly and don't use this wonderful game as a reason.
@yeayeanaynay
Until today Super Mario Galaxy 2 was my all time favorite Mario game, but Mario Odyssey is more fun, more just "One more moon", "Juhu: Another new costume", "Ah now I captured..." and I just keep on smiling🙂, smiling😊 and smiling...☺

I haven't enjoyed a mario game this much in a very long time. This might actually be the best Nintendo game of the last 10 years. (Personal opinion)

Last night I got to the post game stuff. Looking forward to what secrets I find.

There are some pretty dumb people who can't run in a circle:

@Nincompoop
Very cool!😅😂

I don't know about Super Mario Odyssey but there are many reasons to call Breath of the Wild a big disappointment and I've played all Zelda games (consoles and handhelds). Disappointment not as a game because it's entertaining but as a Zelda game for a Zelda fan, for me at least.

I haven't played Super Mario Odyssey yet but it seems to a a bit short and easy with a focus on collectibles that are placed around in a cheap way. I don't like New Kong City either. Certainly, it doesn't look the best game to me, not even the best Mario game.

@Starbuster It's a game with game design work and ideas. Like throwing the hat to turn into enemies which add a lot of gameplay possibilities. It feels fresh in a industry of AAA dominated by scriptwriters while game designers have zero creative freedom so they copy paste samey gameplay to limit the risk of losses because of big budget development.

@impurekind I wouldn't read a movie review from someone who has only watched trailers, and random scenes online. They have yet to actually experience the film as the film crew intended.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but you should at least wait until you have played the game until you start throwing around scores.

There's also this tendency to call the latest game the greatest game ever.

@itslukec Well, like I said, the score may change once I played it, because the gameplay obviously carries huge weight, but all of those issues are still very much there, and presentation, graphics, design elements and the like are all very important to me personally in terms of how much I can buy into and genuinely love any particular game. And Super Mario Odyssey has a few niggling issues in these areas at times for me personally.

I mean, as an example, I utterly love Yoshi's Island on SNES--it's a near perfect game imo and pretty much my favorite games of all time--but I'd certainly be dropping whatever score I'd give it if someone went in and changed the visuals to look more like Donkey Kong Country (which have aged terribly in comparison to those of Yoshi's Island) and made the HUD/GUI all meh and out of place visually, and replaced the lovely background layers in all the levels with say a single flat repeated pattern that takes away any sense of the levels being actual living and breathing places inside the kingdom of Yoshi's Island (Dinosaur Island I think it is), and made all the boss battles take place inside a single screen that was always bordered off with a big fluorescent green line around the full edge of the screen for no good/compelling/creative/satisfying reason, and made it so I never truly felt any loss from dying, and so on.

So hopefully you get where I'm coming from when I say I personally don't think Super Mario Odyssey is worth a 10/10.

By the way, despite one small niggle (you don't really get any truly cool and satisfying reward for completing Yoshi's Island 100%, which you totally did with Super Mario World before it), I'd actually give Yoshi's Island a 10/10.

"I don't like Mario's nose."

The reviews were probably posted after a session of trying to do the skipping rope or volleyball challenges. I can definitely sympathise, I've had to give up on the volleyball one and move on to the next kingdom.

"..that's one thing I've always felt is missing from Mario as a whole and the fact that it's not Dante's Inferno" -Alex
hilarious!

The worst part is that these stupid points aren't just limited to user reviews... some of the critic reviews being included on Metacritic make the exact same points.

If somone was to "rate" such "reviewers" we'd get something like this (and apparently we don't need to get to know them first...):

Intellect: 4/10
Imagination: 2/10
Soul: 1/10
Looks: 3/10
(Intellectual) Age: 10/100
Combined score (logically): 0/10

Verdict: "I haven't met the guy, but I hear he has a lot of friends who say he's really nice and smart and good looking and good at sports and arts alike, and while that may be true at least to some extend (if I'm honest), and he might really be a charming guy, he really doesn't deserve all this praise and attention, so I'm counter-balancing this by telling everyone I meet that he's ugly and dumb instead..."

Seriously though, these "reviews" tell much more about their authors than about the game.

First things first:

dat Pikachu drawing

Now, onto the real focus... there's a grand total of one "good" bad review out of the eleven, without counting a troll review (the "five... out of five" one) which harkens back to both the importance of not jumping to scores - because that means jumping to conclusions - and, most worryingly, to a Jimquisition video showing how easy to troll we are as a fanbase.

Speaking of Jim Sterling, he eventually went on to praise Odyssey as his favourite Mario to date in his ACTUAL Jimquisition video.

Bear in mind, this is the same man that

and is generally a total Tracy to Nintendo, and is now praising a Mario game. When not even him can bring himself to hate the game, it speaks volumes of how good this game is.

All that's left to see is Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw, who is generally more of a troll than a reviewer given he only openly praised Portal and few other games (and I've played Portal, and while based on an interesting gimmick it's not an astonishingly revolutionary game to me, what with its small replay value; a great game, but not the Holy Grail), and what he has to say on the matter.

Ya see (Odyssey, ya see... dammit, I goofed off!), in order to criticize Odyssey and be believable about it, you don't have to be a good reviewer. You have to be a great actor. Which is why Yahtzee has the potential of bashing on Odyssey while somehow being deadpan about it. He's an actor. Not a reviewer.

If you're not him, whoever you are, out there, please, just admit the game is good and save yourself from embarassment.

I see a pattern of people who downplay the game's greatness as "okay" or "good" are often ones who just don't genuinely enjoy platformer games in comparison to others.

Me for example see Forza this way cause I simply don't play many racers, but many are very expletive about it being racing perfection.

In my opinion, there are 2 types of reviewers that are simply the worst:
1. People who let other peoples opinions affect their own, as was said in the video
2. People who actively insult the player for liking a game. Like, all these people calling everyone who likes this game "Brainwashed Zombies" makes no sense. If someone wants to enjoy something, they can. It would be like if I went onto metacritic, went to Overwatch, and gave it a zero saying that "anyone who plays this game is probably a fat 40 year old who lives in his parents basement." Reviewers should focus on the game itself, and not on the people who play it.

@Mart1ndo Like they say, it's the silent majority versus the loud minority.

@BlueOcean Well it's better then any of the banjo kazooie games.

@ClassSonicSatAm I know you are trolling but no way it is. I didn't say that Super Mario Odyssey is bad, in between.

@yeayeanaynay
The moon is magic.😍
Lol about the cat suits. I for myself don't miss anything. The game feels soooo good. So many known elements with new implementations.
Sorry: Have to go back!😉😃

Haters gonna hate!

@Minotaurgamer have to agree with you here, despite all the NDF fanboy hate you're coming under fire for.

Look, Odyssey is another Nintendo masterpiece of game design and blah blah blah we get it. But I must say, ever since I stopped being a Nintendo only gamer and branched out into other waters, coming back and firing up Odyssey just felt like "here we go again" and I'm kinda over it. Like, sure, it's a great game but I've kind of moved onto other gaming experiences. Like, Wolfenstein II is utterly amazing and unlike any Nintendo game I've ever played up to this point. The story telling and characters are off the charts. Frankly, Odyssey just felt like SM3dWorld on steroids.

Breath of the Wild is the kind of experience that makes me excited for Nintendo again, not Odyssey.

It's reasons like this (and some choice people in this comment section) that should be evident why people aren't reviewers. It's quite ok if you realize it isn't your type of game but quality and execution of it's craft are independent of your personal preference. Mario 100% executes what it is intending to do and does so nearly flawlessly. If you whine about the power moons, then you had no business playing a 3d collectathon.

I've been playing mario games for years and honestly I don't find odyssey that easy. I've died a million times. So it's not that its to easy its just too forgiving.

@Jayvir "It's reasons like this... that should be evident why people aren't reviewers."

wat.

Had I known all this time that reviewers are actually robots this all would have made so much more sense! This explains everything!

@gatorboi352 Internet reviewers are a superior race, it seems.

I have odyssey but no switch hehe

I haven't played through the whole thing, but I wouldn't give it a 10. I think you can compare it to other Mario titles, both 3D and 2D, and it is just not up there with Super Mario World, Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy. Which, to me, are the absolute best. I would say those three get 10s this one gets a 9.

I think a lot of this is just hot take culture running rampant. Everyone wants to be the first contrarian to put out the piece on why they hate something popular (because negative unpopular opinions get more views than positive unpopular opinions).

I'm personally not a huge fan of Mario games, but even I can see that this one is a solid, well-made game. Possibly not a perfect 10, but certainly better than average.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I'm also playing through Super Mario 3D World now as well. I'm on the last level of World 8.

Honestly, you picked the worst possible location to stop playing on the basis of how easy the game is. Worlds 1-5 were super easy, World 6 was a tad bit less easy but still easy, World 7 was more challenging but still easily doable, World 8 is about right with some challenging levels, and World 9 apparently has some of the hardest Mario levels of any Mario game EVER.

So if I were you I'd at least play a couple levels of World 9 before writing off the game as too easy. I think you might be satisfied with the game if you do so.

Also, don't go in expecting it to be a 3D sandbox Mario like Sunshine and 64, because it's not. It's essentially a 3D version of a 2D Mario game. If you accept it for what it is, then you'll have a blast, since in that view it's easily better than any NSMB game and on par IMHO with the classics like Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
If Super Mario 3d world is to easy for you get some 5 year olds and play co-op. That was one of the most difficult challenges of my life.

@impurekind You're not alone:

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/gamereviews/super-mario-odyssey-review-fun-but-not-a-revolution-w510244

Generally, I'd agree with your sentiment. Oddysey simply lacks the touch of Miyamoto as the Director. That's probably what you're feeling, as well. It doesn't match what Super Mario 64 or Yoshi's Island was like back in the day for me. There's always hype for the newest iteration clouding judgment until time passes. The 7-hour stream with NicoB is enough for me, no need to play to see your points.

For whatever it's worth... There's no such thing as a perfect game. Nintendo Power never once gave a full 10/10, and I wouldn't either.

Zero for Alex and five for me (just kidding). I can use addition, but this game really is worthy of a ten out of ten!

@Pazuzu666 well said, sir.

It's all about the journey, not reaching the peak of the mountain. Gaming perfection in my book

I don't really care what the game scores. Never been a big Mario JnR fan.
But i don't get why the complaint that a game offers no challange until the post game is not a valid one.
I totally understand why someone would not be interested in in going for 100%. I hardly do it myself. I finish the story and sometimes i go back and grab all the little secrets.
In the last two Tomb Raiders i went out of my way to get everything. But someone who was not interested in that still got a challanging game.
I have not played SMO so i can't verify if the game is too easy until after the credits. So this is just an overall thought on the matter.

I honestly don't get why these fake reviews are promoted here. So I'm kindly asking @AlexOlney Why are you doing those haters a favor and promoting them here?
I'm aware you meant it as a means of entertainment, but don't you see that giving them attention is the wrong reaction, similar to feeding a troll?
Those reviews should be ignored, forgotten and left at the bottom of the ocean (of online attention).
Instead - because of the way the internet works - articles and videos like this one keep those fake reviews swimming above the surface (of online attention), so they will spread even further.

@Sinister I've only played the first few levels but it is definitely too easy. I mean, previous Mario (2D and 3D) titles also started off (relatively) easy, but because of new mechanics they still offered a bit of a challenge in the beginning and steadily got harder (Mario Galaxy 2's post-game was actually ultra-hard, even for platformer veterans).
But there's no such thing in Odyssey, the cap throwing/posessing mechanic doesn't require any skill from the player (compared to the gravity in MG). Traversing the world is also a piece of cake, there are no platforming challenges whatsoever.

I haven’t checked Odyssey yet but I’ve seen some reviews. It seems great, don’t get me wrong. But one of my fav things of SM3Dworld is the multiplayer. A real funny experience. It looks like Odyssey lacks that.

Game isn't 1080p, Alex. The reviewer was right saying it was 900p.

Not saying that's a bad thing. Just a minor correction.

'Middle of the 4K age' is hilarious when only a select few games actually play at that resolution. Plenty of Xbone or PS4 games struggle to run at 60fps 1080p. Let's finish that era first.

@yeayeanaynay
Thanks a lot.
Lol: Then enjoy it with her.😃

It's a must buy title, it's probably not perfect in everyone's eyes, and for many it's hard to understand a 10/10.
Game Reviews have changed a lot since my day. Where games where broken down into sections like sound, graphics, playability, lastability creating an overall score from the mean calculation. But if you did review this that way it would still be high.
As for difficulty it's a standard Nintendo curve.

So people knock Mario for being too similar but what games are these people playing?? I can make the same argument for like any game series.

My opinion: As long as a game series is good/continues to be good, I don't care if it's too similar. Of course changes are always welcome including spin-offs etc.

@DinSquid Odyssey does have multiplayer; one person controls Mario while the other controls Cappy. However, I haven’t had the chance to try it out so I don’t know know enjoyable it is.

@Minotaurgamer projared agrees with you

The main complaint about Odyssey seems to be the difficulty. I just played 46 stars worth of Super Mario 64. It's not the most difficult game either, and most stars are super fast to get. They're clearly trying to go for a similar feel ~

3D World and even the Galaxy games might offer tighter platforming action compared to 64 and Odyssey, thanks to their more linear structure, but it's refreshing to have another open-ended game where you can just rummage around and do stuff at your own pace.

Lol, you can't account for bad taste and everyone is a critic. Just in these comments alone the hip-kids swear it's a middling game because it isn't what they invisioned or its too easy. Things that go beyond subjective and into nitpicking territory.

These people were never going to like Odyssey...or even actually play the game in a lot of cases. They're bored, because there's currently no lootboxers taking advantage of them. Battlefront 2 hasn't come out yet and these are growing boys with pent up anger. Instead of shouting at eachother about Star Cards, they're trolling about the internet in hopes that anyone will listen to bad opinions.

@WaveBoy They are both good games, it's just for me Skyrim was a better open world game and BoTW felt sparse in comparison. And as far as Odessey goes, it's a great 3D platformer that's good for a brief distraction, but that's it. I'd rather hunt monsters.

Bit smug. What about all the automatic 10/10 "Best game ever! Until the next one" fanboy reviews or would it be too close to home?

@LegendOfPokemon
Missing the 4 player chaos that SM3DW had. That one of the best features of that game.

@BlueOcean I was being honest, all you do in banjo kazooie games is collect stuff. in not really fun way, might of been good for the late 90's but unlike Mario 64 it aren't aged well at all. (well the graphics are nice I won't lie there, Rare did push the N64's tech, but it's gameplay isn't that great. )

Mario Odyssey is the first game I can say that's topped 90's 3D platformers, a game that's fun all way, I still haven't put down my Switch yet, collecting more moons and messing around more to see what else I can find.

If there's DLC with a season pass and such like Zelda did, I may actually buy season pass for the first time in my life.

We need more fun games like this!

@DinSquid Only downside it made SM3DW feel too much like a arcade game like TMNT 89 or Simpsons it's only really fun with friends, on ya own...it's like having a party by ya self. not the same.
Nintendo to work on more online co-op style games.

@patbacknitro18
We have to rate the game based off of the content it has to offer and not the fact that we had a ton of expectations that weren't met. If we try to keep rating games off of the fanbase, excitement, and really, only expectations we will miss what the game really is. Throughout playing this game I kept thinking "Oh, I wish that the kingdoms were bigger" or "this was way overhyped" and I lost sight of the content it had to offer. Yes, it still is the best Mario game to hit a console yet, the game runs the best out of all other switch games, and you can tell that all of the power moons and in-game mechanics were deeply thought through. With this, focusing on the content itself and not the failed expectations you can see that this game is a deserving 10/10. I agree with your comment 100%. I feel like a lot of people aren't getting focused on the content but the hype and expectations that failed. This does not mean that the game is terrible though and that's what they are not seeing

Some people are just pissy because the Switch had an amazing 1st year in terms of quality games. I see some here trying (and failing) to convince anyone that BotW was a bad game or that "Odeysey" (its ODYSSEY , dammit) is just another Mario game (as if that was a bad thing - like who the fudge complains GTAV is just more GTA?). Fact is, Mario is an ip that consistently gets high scores due to its amazing gameplay. And some nutters out there get upset that Mario "keeps getting away" with winning top scores. I mean, that is not a problem Mario games have, but a mental problem its detractors obviously have.

@ClassSonicSatAm
Yes. Like many things in life, some things are better with friends. 🙂

I agree with @zach77 they are idiots stupid haters..

In my opinion, Super Mario Odyssey shouldn't be considered better than Banjo-Kazooie in terms of collectathon games and is a bit overrated, the game has way too much moons and has an unbalanced difficulty (the boss are not that original and dying in this game is kind of hard), the main goal seems more like a secondary quest unlike the other Mario games even if it's the exact same objective, this is due to the ridiculously high amount of filler moons to collect, so it feels like there is no difference between collecting these moons and collecting the purple coins or collecting the green stars of Mario 3D World, it is even comparable with collecting the BOTW koroks, but it's not the main quest of the game so the impact is far less important. As amazing as collectathon games can get, they can also get very boring if they are not well designed, in Mario Odyssey, it makes the game unpleasant and boring to finish at 100% (obviously, in terms of main objective, obtaining a moon with a simple ground pound in the middle of nowhere is not that satisfying). They could have fixed this by decreasing the high amount of moons and making each one of them more complexe, more satisfying and more valuable to collect but it would have required a lot more of game design and a lot more time of developpement.
They managed to save a lot of time by exaggerating the amount of moons and almost succeeded at hiding this flaw with the best gameplay i've seen in a platformer, but after finishing the game at 100% two times, i can say that unlike the other Mario games, i have no desire to restart the adventure anytime soon even if the last time i played was last year, which is the first time I've felt this with a Mario game... I am stil trying to understand why this game is rated that high.