Having played it on Switch its nowhere near deserving of such a score. Most of that is pure emotion over what people think they should have done with those games. I've played far buggier and worse performing games over the years.
Whatever you think about the visual design choices they have made, fundamentally these are still the same games they always were and the worst things they have done is call them the definitive edition and have such a high price point for minimal effort
@Ristar24 yeah it seems they had to cull some settings for Switch, from what it sounds like both the original engine and Unreal are running concurrently and that's how they got it to feel just like the originals. Though with Switch and its limited CPU and memory bandwidth it's not the best combination, at least as an educated guess
@nintendoknife it's using a more realistic lighting model that's all, the original has lots of fake lights in alleyways that makes it very bright when there's no actual light source. The remaster appears to have done away with these for global illumination but with no real thought about how that affects every area of the game
It depends on what you think is better, the originals lighting is a lot more colourful but many of those lights just come out of the floor or walls, there is no light source that makes any sense. The new version is more accurate but can be less visually appealing
@gokev13 nor have I, I've played better N64 emulation but this is by no means poor and many will get worse input lag through their TV then whatever this emulator adds
@Edu23XWiiU because many on here are talking out of their backside, the emulation is perfectly fine and as for the missing fog on Ocarina, it's not a big issue. As someone who played it on an N64 at launch and its one of my favourite ever games, I can wholeheartedly say that I don't care if its missing and it made no difference to my enjoyment of that part of the game, I'm just going to keep having fun with it
@WallyWest I'm playing Vice City on Switch and despite a choppy framerate at times when driving at speed, its more than playable. I've just taken out Diaz to get the mansion in the middle of the map and I've had no problems completing any missions due to performance and thankfully that rain effect isn't quite as pronounced on Switch
I'm bouncing between Animal Crossing New Horizons, GTA Vice City and Ocarina of Time on Switch.
Started a new island on AC and the Town Hall has just been built so hopefully not too long until the extra content unlocks. Whilst on Vice City I'm not fair off taking down Ricardo Diaz and for an unplayable game I've sure found it easy to get to this point and had fun whilst doing so
@Stocksy streaming a film and emulating a video games console are 2 very different things. I've put a few hours into both of the games I've mentioned and had no issues whatsoever, so yeah I'd say they're fine
Having played a fair bit if Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, calling the emulation poor is just flat out nonsense. It's fine, could be better but it's good overall
I'm a few hours into Vice City and having a blast with it, sure the framerate is choppy when driving at speed but not unplayable by any means. Performance should absolutely be better and there are some weird design choices.
Let's be honest here though, the original games never had amazing gameplay, the shooting was awkward, driving only half decent in San Andreas and just moving around was pretty poor. These were great games because of the world's they created, the story, cast and soundtrack and the chaos you could cause.
Back to this and of the performance was a bit more steady I'd say they played better than the originals and they look better too
@KillerBOB @GrailUK playing Vice City on Switch, the pop in is basically the same as it was on the PS2 and I've had no issues weaving through traffic and the originals controlled pretty poorly anyway. I'd say these actually play pretty similar to the PS2 originals but with a less consistent framerate
I'll stand by what I said before in that these remasters could and should have been much better but I've still had a good time with them so far
I've played 3 or 4 hours of Vice City and it plays fine, definitely could be better performance wise but miles away from being unplayable and no worse then I remember the originals or GTA5 on PS3. Handheld I'd say its pretty good. They're clearly not the "definitive" experience but they're still fun games and hopefully the performance niggles will get fixed
I've been playing Vice City for an hour or so and yeah the resolution is rather low and framerate isn't brilliant but you know what? It plays better than the PS2 original and at times actually looks rather nice. Handheld certainly masks some of the issues and it looks rather good that way.
The remaster could and should have been better everywhere but it's still a very fun game that is very playable
I don't see them moving away from this formula now. I wouldn't mid seeing them brining it closer to Wii U in that a dock could do more than just be a plastic holder, whether it be extra storage or even a more powerful standalone console that can work with the handheld
A bit weird not to include any Sega games especially as they dominated the arcade scene for quite some time but we have Pokemon Go?
I can see the arguments for many games on that list, especially when their influence is taken into account which also suggests Ocarina should have been here.
Out of those I'd probably go with Mario 64 as it was such a huge leap into 3D and controlling a character in that space that no game at the time got anywhere close to but also the likes of Street Fighter 2, Doom and Half Life 2 are true greats as well
The Switch is certainly my favourite of any of the current consoles on the market, I just have more fun with it and whilst I don't see use it's handheld mode too often I'm happy the option is there. I don't need 4K and mediocre RT to have fun with a game but with any successor Nintendo have to make it fully backwards compatible with the Switch
Trade the item after the game has been turned off and do exactly what with it? These NFT's are literally useless and worthless and you'd have to be a fool to buy one. It'd be like buying one tomato and having a little certificate to say you own the tomato but everyone else in the world can still but tomatoes yet some moron will be willing to pay lots of money for yours
I've just picked up Mario Kart live circuit for my boy's upcoming birthday, I of course had to test it out and I'm.... I mean he's going to have a great time with it
@nhSnork buy, I've no issues with space but I'd much rather just buy the one game I really want to play, especially when they are seemingly treated as separate games on the eshop
I've jumped back in for the first time in a long time, I'm tempted to start a new island or I was until I saw how much was in the dlc. I've been really enjoying that with the Switch online expansion pass. Overall I think its great
Back on the Switch for the first time in months and on Animal Crossing with the boy. Just picked up Warioware which is a lot of fun and have Super Monkey Ball arriving later today
I never enjoyed playing this on Wii with that vontrol scheme, with good controls I suspect there is a very good game underneath but I'm concerned I won't enjoy the new controls much more
In the sense that you could just buy it instead? With Switch online you'll have to pay again next year and the one after and again. Yeah sure in one specific scenario you can make it arguably worthwhile, I'm not sure how many others could
Goldeneye is still great fun to play to this day so this would be a hugely welcome addition to NSO and the N64 pad is basically tailor made for that game. It'd be cool to see that Xbox version see the light of day as well
@PJOReilly good review, just a shames some ganes have to be brought over to Switch in this fashion. I did try the Control demo on Switch a while back and it worked well but for me cloud gaming on Switch is rather pointless as you're still tied to one piece of hardware which is kind of going against what the point of it is in the first place. Perhaps Nintendo should do some kind of deal with Stadia or one of the PC stores so you get a copy of the game there as well
Probably not, Nintendo just don't put enough effort into these to warrant a purchase for me and I see no reason why there are still so few boards in these. We had more and better boards in the Gamecube entries then the new game on Switch and this one, if you're remaking them give us 10 boards at least from across the franchise. It looks like I'll just be sticking with the Gamecube entries but people will buy these in the millions anyway as they did with the last one despite it being pretty poor
@Raylax it tool me 5 minutes to get it working in Project 64, it connects through Bluetooth and is recognised as an N64 controller. On the emulator it recognised all the inputs as I set them up but in game wouldn't respond to the analogue stick but after a few goes on each in the configuration it worked and now runs well
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Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Zanzox the stories and animation are the same as they always were and if anything the controls are better. The graphics you can argue either way
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
@Maximumbeans in this case they did, it just wasn't much effort
Re: GTA Trilogy Is Very Close To Receiving The Worst Ever Switch User Review Score On Metacritic
Having played it on Switch its nowhere near deserving of such a score. Most of that is pure emotion over what people think they should have done with those games. I've played far buggier and worse performing games over the years.
Whatever you think about the visual design choices they have made, fundamentally these are still the same games they always were and the worst things they have done is call them the definitive edition and have such a high price point for minimal effort
Re: Random: Smash Bros. Director Masahiro Sakurai Just Bought An Xbox Series X
@Anti-Matter that's a shame, luckily for me there are lots of amazing games available through backwards compatibility that I like playing
Re: Random: Smash Bros. Director Masahiro Sakurai Just Bought An Xbox Series X
Random: Guy who's into video games buys video games console
Re: Video: Check Out This Side-By-Side Comparison Of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City On Switch And PS Vita
@Ristar24 yeah it seems they had to cull some settings for Switch, from what it sounds like both the original engine and Unreal are running concurrently and that's how they got it to feel just like the originals. Though with Switch and its limited CPU and memory bandwidth it's not the best combination, at least as an educated guess
Re: Video: Check Out This Side-By-Side Comparison Of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City On Switch And PS Vita
@nintendoknife it's using a more realistic lighting model that's all, the original has lots of fake lights in alleyways that makes it very bright when there's no actual light source. The remaster appears to have done away with these for global illumination but with no real thought about how that affects every area of the game
Re: Video: Check Out This Side-By-Side Comparison Of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City On Switch And PS Vita
It depends on what you think is better, the originals lighting is a lot more colourful but many of those lights just come out of the floor or walls, there is no light source that makes any sense. The new version is more accurate but can be less visually appealing
Re: Doug Bowser (Kind Of) Addresses Complaints About Switch Online's Nintendo 64 Emulation
@gokev13 nor have I, I've played better N64 emulation but this is by no means poor and many will get worse input lag through their TV then whatever this emulator adds
Re: Doug Bowser (Kind Of) Addresses Complaints About Switch Online's Nintendo 64 Emulation
@Edu23XWiiU because many on here are talking out of their backside, the emulation is perfectly fine and as for the missing fog on Ocarina, it's not a big issue. As someone who played it on an N64 at launch and its one of my favourite ever games, I can wholeheartedly say that I don't care if its missing and it made no difference to my enjoyment of that part of the game, I'm just going to keep having fun with it
Re: GTA Trilogy Could Be This Year's 'Cyberpunk 2077' As Rockstar Is Flooded With Refund Requests
@WallyWest I'm playing Vice City on Switch and despite a choppy framerate at times when driving at speed, its more than playable. I've just taken out Diaz to get the mansion in the middle of the map and I've had no problems completing any missions due to performance and thankfully that rain effect isn't quite as pronounced on Switch
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 13th)
I'm bouncing between Animal Crossing New Horizons, GTA Vice City and Ocarina of Time on Switch.
Started a new island on AC and the Town Hall has just been built so hopefully not too long until the extra content unlocks. Whilst on Vice City I'm not fair off taking down Ricardo Diaz and for an unplayable game I've sure found it easy to get to this point and had fun whilst doing so
Re: Doug Bowser (Kind Of) Addresses Complaints About Switch Online's Nintendo 64 Emulation
@Stocksy streaming a film and emulating a video games console are 2 very different things. I've put a few hours into both of the games I've mentioned and had no issues whatsoever, so yeah I'd say they're fine
Re: Doug Bowser (Kind Of) Addresses Complaints About Switch Online's Nintendo 64 Emulation
Having played a fair bit if Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, calling the emulation poor is just flat out nonsense. It's fine, could be better but it's good overall
Re: GTA Trilogy Dev Responds To Fan Frustrations, Says Updates Are Already In The Works
I'm a few hours into Vice City and having a blast with it, sure the framerate is choppy when driving at speed but not unplayable by any means. Performance should absolutely be better and there are some weird design choices.
Let's be honest here though, the original games never had amazing gameplay, the shooting was awkward, driving only half decent in San Andreas and just moving around was pretty poor. These were great games because of the world's they created, the story, cast and soundtrack and the chaos you could cause.
Back to this and of the performance was a bit more steady I'd say they played better than the originals and they look better too
Re: Review: Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition - Three Classics In One Shocking Package
@KillerBOB @GrailUK playing Vice City on Switch, the pop in is basically the same as it was on the PS2 and I've had no issues weaving through traffic and the originals controlled pretty poorly anyway. I'd say these actually play pretty similar to the PS2 originals but with a less consistent framerate
I'll stand by what I said before in that these remasters could and should have been much better but I've still had a good time with them so far
Re: GTA Trilogy Dataminers Find Missing Music In Code As Problems Mount For 'Definitive' Release
I've played 3 or 4 hours of Vice City and it plays fine, definitely could be better performance wise but miles away from being unplayable and no worse then I remember the originals or GTA5 on PS3. Handheld I'd say its pretty good. They're clearly not the "definitive" experience but they're still fun games and hopefully the performance niggles will get fixed
Re: Watch: This Is What Grand Theft Auto Definitive Trilogy Looks Like On Switch
I've been playing Vice City for an hour or so and yeah the resolution is rather low and framerate isn't brilliant but you know what? It plays better than the PS2 original and at times actually looks rather nice. Handheld certainly masks some of the issues and it looks rather good that way.
The remaster could and should have been better everywhere but it's still a very fun game that is very playable
Re: YouTube Is Hiding The Dislike Count, Good News For Switch Online's Video Team
Just in time for footage of GTA Trilogy to hit 😂
Joking aside, for content creators we don't need such negativity out there and much of it is unwarranted
Re: Talking Point: Will Nintendo Abandon The Switch Concept For Its Next Console?
I don't see them moving away from this formula now. I wouldn't mid seeing them brining it closer to Wii U in that a dock could do more than just be a plastic holder, whether it be extra storage or even a more powerful standalone console that can work with the handheld
Re: Zelda: BotW, Super Mario 64 And Pokémon GO Shortlisted For The Golden Joystick 'Ultimate Game Of All Time' Award
A bit weird not to include any Sega games especially as they dominated the arcade scene for quite some time but we have Pokemon Go?
I can see the arguments for many games on that list, especially when their influence is taken into account which also suggests Ocarina should have been here.
Out of those I'd probably go with Mario 64 as it was such a huge leap into 3D and controlling a character in that space that no game at the time got anywhere close to but also the likes of Street Fighter 2, Doom and Half Life 2 are true greats as well
Re: The Switch Is Here To Stay, Says Nintendo Boss Shuntaro Furukawa
The Switch is certainly my favourite of any of the current consoles on the market, I just have more fun with it and whilst I don't see use it's handheld mode too often I'm happy the option is there. I don't need 4K and mediocre RT to have fun with a game but with any successor Nintendo have to make it fully backwards compatible with the Switch
Re: UK Charts: Mario Party Superstars Stays Third As Switch Takes Four Of The Top Ten
@dewokkel yeah they're certainly better then the disappointing boards on the other game, I've just got Warioware but will be looking to get this soon
Re: UK Charts: Mario Party Superstars Stays Third As Switch Takes Four Of The Top Ten
I might have to check Mario Party out, the previous Switch game was pretty poor but this looks much better despite the lack of boards
Re: Square Enix Is The Next Company To Embrace NFTs And Blockchain Gaming
Trade the item after the game has been turned off and do exactly what with it? These NFT's are literally useless and worthless and you'd have to be a fool to buy one. It'd be like buying one tomato and having a little certificate to say you own the tomato but everyone else in the world can still but tomatoes yet some moron will be willing to pay lots of money for yours
Re: Nintendo Shares Its Plans For Black Friday 2021 (US)
I've just picked up Mario Kart live circuit for my boy's upcoming birthday, I of course had to test it out and I'm.... I mean he's going to have a great time with it
Re: The Gorgeous Animal Crossing Switch Is Being Restocked, In Australia At Least
Still easily the best special edition Switch, imagine on OLED version of it
Re: Gallery: Rockstar Shares First Screenshots Of The GTA Trilogy For Nintendo Switch
@nhSnork sounds like a good plan
Re: Gallery: Rockstar Shares First Screenshots Of The GTA Trilogy For Nintendo Switch
@nhSnork buy, I've no issues with space but I'd much rather just buy the one game I really want to play, especially when they are seemingly treated as separate games on the eshop
Re: Gallery: Rockstar Shares First Screenshots Of The GTA Trilogy For Nintendo Switch
I wish I could buy them individually, I only really want to play Vice City and perhaps GTA 3, I don't care for San Andreas
Re: Poll: Are You Enjoying Animal Crossing: New Horizons Version 2.0?
I've jumped back in for the first time in a long time, I'm tempted to start a new island or I was until I saw how much was in the dlc. I've been really enjoying that with the Switch online expansion pass. Overall I think its great
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 6th)
Back on the Switch for the first time in months and on Animal Crossing with the boy. Just picked up Warioware which is a lot of fun and have Super Monkey Ball arriving later today
Re: GTA Trilogy's Physical Edition On Switch Appears To Require A Download
No surprises there and frankly unacceptable when you consider how much Rockstar are charging for these
Re: Zelda: Skyward Sword On Switch Has Already Matched Its Lifetime Wii Sales
I never enjoyed playing this on Wii with that vontrol scheme, with good controls I suspect there is a very good game underneath but I'm concerned I won't enjoy the new controls much more
Re: Soapbox: The Switch Online Expansion Pack Is Great Value – If You Love Animal Crossing
In the sense that you could just buy it instead? With Switch online you'll have to pay again next year and the one after and again. Yeah sure in one specific scenario you can make it arguably worthwhile, I'm not sure how many others could
Re: Rare's N64 Classic GoldenEye 007 Is No Longer "Banned" In Germany
@Darkyoshi98 what now? I never said the original Goldeneye ever released on anything else
Re: Rare's N64 Classic GoldenEye 007 Is No Longer "Banned" In Germany
Goldeneye is still great fun to play to this day so this would be a hugely welcome addition to NSO and the N64 pad is basically tailor made for that game. It'd be cool to see that Xbox version see the light of day as well
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 30th)
Goldeneye with my Switch N64 controller 😉 plus some Resident Evil and Deep Fear on Saturn for Halloween
Fingers crossed that Goldeneye news actually leads to something
Re: Review: Marvel's Guardians Of The Galaxy: Cloud Version - A Disastrous Way To Play A Great Game
@Ninja84 that does sound like a possibility as Xcloud for example is very laggy where I live but Stadia is flawless on the same connection
Re: Review: Marvel's Guardians Of The Galaxy: Cloud Version - A Disastrous Way To Play A Great Game
@PJOReilly good review, just a shames some ganes have to be brought over to Switch in this fashion. I did try the Control demo on Switch a while back and it worked well but for me cloud gaming on Switch is rather pointless as you're still tied to one piece of hardware which is kind of going against what the point of it is in the first place. Perhaps Nintendo should do some kind of deal with Stadia or one of the PC stores so you get a copy of the game there as well
Re: Poll: Mario Party Superstars Is Out Today On Switch, Are You Getting It?
Probably not, Nintendo just don't put enough effort into these to warrant a purchase for me and I see no reason why there are still so few boards in these. We had more and better boards in the Gamecube entries then the new game on Switch and this one, if you're remaking them give us 10 boards at least from across the franchise. It looks like I'll just be sticking with the Gamecube entries but people will buy these in the millions anyway as they did with the last one despite it being pretty poor
Re: The Switch N64 Controller Doesn't Play Nice With Everything, For Now
@FullbringIchigo @electrolite77 @marandahir it works perfectly fine on my PC, Windows even calls it an N64 controller
https://twitter.com/AVGN82/status/1453456943884931072?t=qo-ezy9f8d1dEy8NQsDh8Q&s=19
Re: The Switch N64 Controller Doesn't Play Nice With Everything, For Now
@Spoods I'd imagine those Bluetooth adapters for 8bitdo should be universal anyway
Re: The Switch N64 Controller Doesn't Play Nice With Everything, For Now
@Spoods it's a PCIe card which supports both Bluetooth and Wifi, it connected straight away in Windows and is even called an N64 controller
Re: The Switch N64 Controller Doesn't Play Nice With Everything, For Now
@Raylax it tool me 5 minutes to get it working in Project 64, it connects through Bluetooth and is recognised as an N64 controller. On the emulator it recognised all the inputs as I set them up but in game wouldn't respond to the analogue stick but after a few goes on each in the configuration it worked and now runs well
Re: The Switch N64 Controller Doesn't Play Nice With Everything, For Now
@Spoods when I plugged it in nothing happened but I was able to easily connect it through Bluetooth
Re: The Switch N64 Controller Doesn't Play Nice With Everything, For Now
@GrailUK it's a bit finicky but I've got it working just fine with Project 64, the pad feels great too
Re: Mario Party Superstars Leaks Online Ahead Of Next Week's Official Launch
Spoilers? Its Mario Party, not only that its boards from 20 years ago what is there to spoil?
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Release Date And Pricing Revealed
Yeah no thanks, I'd much rather buy the games or at least let me choose which systems come with the base membership
Re: Review: Cotton Guardian Force Saturn Tribute - Great Games Let Down By Poor Ports
@LEGEND_MARIOID a real shame as these games are much better then the first on original hardware