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It should have been so easy, or so one would have thought. Three epic open-world masterclasses that took the gaming industry by storm back in the early noughties, finally arriving on Switch and giving us all an absolute smorgasbord of hilarious criminal hijinks to dig into. Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition on Nintendo's portable console should be a marriage made in heaven. However, as it turns out, Rockstar must have been almost fully divorced from reality to let this port release in the state in which we've reviewed it.
The games here themselves need no introduction. Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City and San Andreas released in 2001, 2002 and 2004 respectively, delivering spectacular open worlds that are absolutely oozing with edgy atmosphere, amazing soundtracks, memorable characters and hilarious slapstick action. They're meticulously crafted slices of satirical Americana in which to run amok. That stuff is all still here, but it's been massively compromised by a port that beggars belief, especially considering that the most recent of these games released 17 years ago.
This is a trilogy that should run beautifully on Switch, there can be no excuses. What we've got instead is an outright weird graphical makeover, blurry Vaseline-smeared visuals, janky controls, a constantly struggling frame rate, myriad bugs and glitches, missing music, low quality audio, bizarrely long loading times, freezes, and more besides. This is a trio of Grand Theft Auto games running and, in some regards, looking worse than we've ever seen them, and we just don't get it.
We kicked off our time with this "definitive" trilogy by diving into Grand Theft Auto 3 and even in the very opening moments, as soon as the game gets underway, the problems are obvious. We had to pause and turn the brightness level to max then reduce the contrast to zero just to make the picture look acceptable first of all, before jumping into a vehicle and taking off across good old Liberty City. Except this wasn't Liberty City how we remembered it, and certainly nowhere near the Liberty City we'd expect from a revamp.
This port — of a game from 2001 — suffers from constant and serious pop-in, with buildings and bushes and passers-by magically appearing all around you as you manoeuvre through its city streets. Worse than this, however, are the other vehicles which tend to materialise right in front of you, giving you virtually no time to avoid them, a problem that directly affects the traversal of the open world here, and one that drains almost all of the fun out of driving — something you tend to do quite a lot of in GTA.
This issue persists throughout all three games, too. It's exacerbated to no end by a frame rate that stutters along whenever you pick up any kind of decent speed or fancy pulling off some tricks, and drastically affects the base level of enjoyment you can have in these sandboxes. No longer were we cruising along, switching to our favourite radio station and enjoying the (truncated) soundtrack on offer, instead cursing at our screen and wondering how on earth anyone could let this treasured trilogy launch in such a state.
It's an odd feeling. We've spent so much time with these games that we just expect to enjoy them but, unless you've got some seriously low expectations, that's pretty much impossible to do here. In combat — and again this is across all three games — the stuttering frame rate persists, making for some woefully inept scraps. Gunfights are a mess for the most part, vehicular showdowns suck, and they're all further hindered by controls that just don't feel good. There's gyro support and HD Rumble included, which is something, we guess, but it doesn't help as shooting just feels basic, clumsy and sticky, animations are janky and the blurred Vaseline visuals make deciphering where your shots are landing an absolute chore.
The new visuals are certainly an acquired taste (one we haven't acquired) but they can look fine at times. Vice City especially has had a nice upgrade in this respect, but it only goes as far as the city streets, ambient lighting and buildings themselves. Characters are another story entirely and, as we're sure you've seen online already, there's a lot of very odd-looking folk roaming the streets of these games nowadays. In terms of main protagonists, Tommy Vercetti probably comes off the best with regards to the makeover, but poor old CJ really does look extremely odd at points, like a rubber figure with bendy arms and a huge bulge protruding from his back when he's crouched down.
In handheld mode some of the visual problems — the extraordinarily low resolution, glitches, texture issues and so on — can be seen in a more forgiving light and you'll maybe even occasionally (and almost entirely through the power of nostalgia) find yourself feeling that old familiar GTA magic. However, in docked mode, all of the shortcomings are laid bare here, there's nowhere to hide. The resolution is well below 720p, it's been smeared with some sort of after effect that makes things even worse, the default picture settings are awful and the stuttering and jankiness is plain to see. It all just looks really, really bad on a TV, and we've never once thought that about Grand Theft Auto before.
We really thought — or perhaps just hoped — this would be an easy-peasy, slap a ten on it and let's all go to the bar sort of review. There aren't many sure things in this business, but it was hard to see how they could mess this up, especially given Rockstar Games' deep pockets and the vast resources presumably available. Yet Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition, as it has turned up on Switch, is a mess. The further into these games you get, the more the action ramps up, the more painful all of these shortcomings begin to get. It's no wonder Rockstar failed to show this one before release. It's also no wonder you can't record clips of it whilst playing, because under no circumstances is it anywhere near good enough.
There are three amazing games here, three stone-cold classics that we love and have played through more times than we can remember, hence the reason this one's got any score at all below. However, we strongly advise picking this up on any other platform if possible or, at the very least, waiting until it receives — hopefully — a ton of patches to bring it to the level of 'acceptable'. What a disappointment.
Conclusion
Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy - The Definitive Edition on Switch delivers three of gaming's true greats in a shockingly rough package that manages to suck pretty much all of the fun out of Rockstar's stellar crime epics. This is a poor port, a shoddy, stuttery, low resolution mess full of bugs, glitches, audio problems and more besides. If can grab this one on any other platform, we'd advise you do so or, at the very least, hold off until it's been patched and hopefully improved in the future. As things stand, this is a very, very long way from 'definitive' — this isn't the way we want to remember these games.
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Lol come on now.
This is totally sad. Physical preorder cancelled.
Whoa. Was not expecting that. Whoops.
Probably the most divisive Switch game released ever … and it’s not got anything to do with the game itself. Some people are gonna defend this to the hilt, others will make those people feel like they’re playing the lead role in ‘the Emporer’s New Clothes’. Me, I’m like: they showed zero footage; they made no early review copies available. Early warning signs
I was not expecting a 4
I am pretty irritated that Switch owners waited all this time to be able to play the classic GTA games and this is what they get, they deserve so much better, this is a slap in the face, much like the recently revealed KH cloud games.
@Dpishere Except the KH games will run as well as your internet connection. These run like crap regardless of how good your internet is!
Too bad! This was on wishlist. Finally gta on the switch and now this?
Removed - trolling
Was hoping it would just run at 1080p 30fps. Could have literally just been an upscaled port of the games instead of this. Everything RockStar has done with this release on all consoles has just been disappointing and anti-consumer.
The Switch can easily run enhanced PS2 games such as Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 4, and Okami.
There is NO excuse for Rockstar to have released such shoddy ports of their own PS2 games.
"This isn't the way we want to remember these games"
But that's exactly how they were 🤡
I've never held GTA in as high regard as others and truth be told, I've only ever dabbled in a couple of games as they never held my attention and I found them woefully clunky. SO! I'll probably pick these up. The game looks ugly and unplayable with a great soundtrack? Yeah...that's pretty much what I've always thought about the games heheh. (So I reckon 4 is overly harsh - reads like they ported Body Harvest instead lol. Actually,that game was cool thinking about it! Sorry Body Harvest.)
Like I said, this has Cyberpunk 2077 Holiday Rush job (to please shareholders) stink all over it.
Sure most of these issues could (probably) be patched/fixed but the fact is this was a lazily optimized, rushed sloppiness of a launch if I've ever seen one. GTA deserves better. Shame on Rockstar.
Sad and all they had to do was just port the PS3 versions. These definitive remasters shouldn't even be on Switch. I would be okay with just a straight port, as long as it's not buggy I'll bite.
@Dpishere
If you got straight ports of the original PS2 games, you do realize they would look, play, and control much worse than this, right??
@CharlieGirl The Switch runs Saints Row 3 and 4 fairly well...and those weren't 20 year old games. That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of these ports
@KillerBOB May as well give it up, man. Folk's nostalgia for these games has totally taken over their rationale. Most folk didn't play Nintendo back when these games came out (if they are honest) and probably hold a candle to them.
Not surprised by the review. There's no doubt many flaws that need to be patched ASAP.
With that said, I've still been enjoying these games. Fortunately, I haven't encountered glitches during the many hours I've played so far but the framerate is atrocious. Only buy this if you know you'll like it. I'm loving it so far all things considered.
@KillerBOB Was waiting for this as I've seen your comments already on other GTA Trilogy articles recently. Have you played this release is my first question? Because I can tell you right now, as someone who bought and played all of these games on their original release days, and many, many time since, that they were 100% not like this. Cheers.
This is a fair score for these poorly done remasters of the shoddy mobile versions of these classic games. Some people (including people on this site) will perform revisionist history and say the originals were worse then they actually were for their time to make this release look better, or chastise you for not eating up whatever slop the billion dollar corporation feeds to you - but that doesn't change the fact that Grove Street Games (formerly War Drum Studios) has failed to do justice to the PS2 trilogy of GTA games twice now.
@CharlieGirl to be fair, those games you just described are basic ports, these new versions of GTA are running on a new engine with new assets and such.
@DeathByLasagna Even worst, they are removing all the older good versions of these games and replacing them with these abominations. Good thing I already got the older entries on PS2 and Steam otherwise I would had been super disappointed.
First time I've ever seen a GTA game/games get a 4 rating.
Oh well. Guess I'll spend my money elsewhere.
@PJOReilly No no, you don't understand. One of the common defences from people is that anyone who doesn't think these remasters are the bees knees is just a younger person who started with GTAV and were too young or not even born yet when the originals came out.
@PJOReilly I respect your review and see where it is coming from. I guess from the perspective of someone thinking GTA is a true great video game, your review makes total sense and I can see why there would be harsh criticism.
@GrailUK
If this was a Nintendo release, it would be the exact opposite situation with the majority defending it.
I've played about 3hrs of San Andreas on Series X and am loving it so far. Any glitches or "weird" animation things I've seen were the same things happening the in original release. People either forget that, or are playing this for the first time and have no clue.
@KillerBOB yeah, maybe you are right.
@nessisonett Very true
Just to add, for anyone put off by these remasters, it's best to avoid all platforms right now as they seem to be suffering from the same issues.
@Yosher lol
No. 4? ..... yeah then forget GTA 4. 4 now.
7/10 is more reasonable
With first the Steam Deck and now this I'll have a nice bit of extra cash free for other things.
@OldMcGroin spend for quality
@PushMyGran1986 It's definitely a contrast to the 9/10 they gave GTA Chinatown Wars lol
Funny because i played this game on xbox series S and that too has performance issues with this game while in performance mode. I played it on gamepass so no big loss. I guess we'll have to wait for patches. It also has the pop in issue on xbox series S.
Though to be fair gta vice city stories ran bad on psp and i loved that but that was back in the day
Sounds exactly how I remembered GTA from back then 🙂
@PJOReilly
Bought them all on day one for PS2. Loved them.
Bought Vice City (my favourite one) on PS4 a couple years ago, and couldn't play it much further than the RC helicopter level due to the atrocious controls. I found it unplayable today.
I've been playing San Andreas on Game Pass and am liking it a lot more so far. The new "modern" controls are making it FAR more enjoyable to play these games.
Do yourself a favor and try to play the PS2 version of any of these games right now, and tell me it plays better than these. They don't.
Currently playing San Andreas, it's running OK for me so far, but I haven't started any hectic mission (but I did notice certain scenes very dark). I'm angry Rockstar got my money for this half-assed effort, but I'll try to enjoy the games best I can.
@KillerBOB @GrailUK playing Vice City on Switch, the pop in is basically the same as it was on the PS2 and I've had no issues weaving through traffic and the originals controlled pretty poorly anyway. I'd say these actually play pretty similar to the PS2 originals but with a less consistent framerate
I'll stand by what I said before in that these remasters could and should have been much better but I've still had a good time with them so far
There's just no excuse for a glorified PS2 game (and it still LOOKS like a PS2 game) to not run at a constant 30fps on Switch if not 60fps. Switch has some stunning games on it but these developers make it look like a trash console.
And it's not even about being a graphics whore. An unstable framerate directly affects the gameplay in a major way.
Was gonna buy digital on Switch and physical on PS5. Now I see this is a 4/10 rush job and PS5 isn’t even getting a physical release. Well, at least I’ve saved £105. Guess I’ll go back to GTAV via backwards compatibility.
What makes me laugh is that it is just as crap on the other platforms.
@jarvismp Not really, it looks very nice on Xbox Series X in performance mode.
Well, that’s an easy pass then. Shame, as they’re great games. Shame on Rockstar, as said in the article this should be a really easy win.
@thaimbomb
The Switch can play much more demanding games than this
A 4/10 sounds about right. The framerate is all over the place and that’s killing the game for me. Controls are horrible because of said frame drops.
“People that say power doesn’t matter”
switch runs Witcher 3 fine…. And has ports of games far more taxing than these three….
Ridiculous to blame the hardware.
@carlos82 Yeah, I watchd a couple of videos and seen enough to think I'll pick it up (when my Switch comes home...UPS delayed delivery till Monday dagnabit)
@thaimbomb How are you coming to the conclusion that the Switch is underpowered when a company fails to make an upscaled port of a PS2 game? This is on Rockstar, has 0 to do with the hardware.
@Varkster It is underpowered, it was using 2015 technology even when it first came out
I remember these games very fondly but very different from many of you.
@Clyde_Radcliffe it’s still very dark. Overall it’s just a poor release.
@thaimbomb the issues are across all platforms, not just the Switch, this is a bad job by Rockstar. The Switch is already running far more intensive games without these issues.
This was a must buy for me, now I'll wait and see what happens.
Obligatory “Ah s***, here we go again”
And do not just think the Switch is the only one with problems, the other console version have their problems as well, this is not the switchs so called limitations, it stinks on all the systems.
There's an alternate universe where the Switch got normal ports of the PS2 titles, and everyone hated that at first, but then those versions ended up being the best of the bunch.
PJ O’Reilly does it again. His reviews are gospel truth. I was staying away from this as soon as I learned of the required download just to boot it up, but now I know there is no reason to touch it regardless.
Wow. Didn't expect that. Guess I'll stick with Chinatown Wars on my DS.
By the way, this is exactly why Nintendo’s retro offerings of basically the upscaled original ROMs is THE way to go. You can’t go wrong with the originals. Remasters or whatever often introduce new problems as they try to fix old ones.
I understand performance issues as a criticism, but has the Nintendo community really stooped so low as to say that a game is bad because the graphics aren't all shiny and new? If the games are fun, that's what should be focused on, not the graphics.
@Bon_Kurei I think that the games are still fun, but it's clear that R* could have put so much more effort into this. Also, the framerate issues are just unacceptable, and dramatically decrease the fun factor of the trilogy.
I'm seeing reviews saying that even PC and PS5 versions of this are suffering from stuttering and framerate issues, among other things, when trying to run.
This is sounding like a classic case of a rushed development, most likely for the holiday season, and the publisher thinks any problems can be quickly patched out. Though I want to emphasize this is just my opinion.
That's fine; I've always liked Saints Row more anyway and they actually have passable ports on Switch.
They better be rolling out a patch to fix these problems
I've seen footage of this game and while it doesn't look amazing, it doesn't look nearly as bad as this reviewer is making it out to be. Separate your heart from your head and come back to us with a review.
Edit: And the reviewer appears to imply this doesn't have issues across the board. That doesn't excuse Take Two from pushing this out, but I have seen many outlets for other consoles and PC say it's not up to snuff there.
Oh my... just checked out the metacritic rating for the game. Only one or two official reviews posted so far, but the USER SCORES are brutal!
0.5 to 2.5 across all platforms!
They will likely patch up a lot of issues but as the article states, it should not have been released in this condition. The Switch can handle much more.
This game is running like ass on my Series X so no surprise here.
@thaimbomb these aren't the PS2 games. They tried to upgrade everything for modern aesthetics, and didn't think to just port the PS2 version which would have worked marvelously. Instead we get a poorly optimized "upgrade".
That said, the games are still fun even in this state. Enjoying the newer control scheme as well, and gyro works well as long as the sensitivity isn't up too high. I just hope they patch it up quickly to iron out the frame rate woes.
@IronMan30 I played it and reviewed exactly what I found. My heart didn't come into it. Cheers.
@PJOReilly thanks for antagonizing a commenter, dude, but it sure reads like you didn't review with just your head.
@PJOReilly are you a robot? Because that sounds impossible
Can I say lazy devs! Or not? Xxx it also baffles me that with all that rockstarcash they can’t make 20 year old games more polished. Is it that hard? Xxxx
@IronMan30 Are you criticizing him for responding to you?
@IronMan30 What did I say that was antagonising? I just responded. The port is awful, it's all over the internet that it's awful. I just wanted you to know my heart didn't come into it. Cheers! No antagonism intended.
This makes a good case for emulation, ironically - it's up to us to preserve gaming history because corporations have shown time and again that they will not, even when they can profit from it.
This is why I'll be waiting for the Android version to sideload it. Good to see one of the countless (the future is 10+ year old games!) remasters/remake/rewhstevers fail hard. Vote with those dollars folks.
The gameplay gets a 4 from me as well. Always has. No matter the performance.
They only get away with it because Rockstar is "so cool". Like art snobs desperately trying to justify their love of a turd painting.
These are just bad games and no one wants to be honest about it.
HOLY LOW SCORE!
Wow. now Rockstar will justify NEVER EVER bringing anything more, much less this series (which I despise) and for sure, no Red Dead which I do like.
It is really too bad for all the folks that were excited fro this game. Seems Rockstar and Nintendo were never a well-matched pair unfortunately.
@thaimbomb You think this is the hardwares fault? The other versions all have the same issues.
Just made an account to comment lol
"We had to pause and turn the brightness level to max then reduce the contrast to zero just to make the picture look acceptable first of all.."
I'm playing it right now on stock settings and it doesn't look nearly as bad as your screenshots? What on earth is going on here? It's like you wanted it to look worse. Every YouTube review doesn't have the brightness exaggerated like these screenshots.
"The resolution is well below 720p, it's been smeared with some sort of after effect that makes things even worse, the default picture settings are awful and the stuttering and jankiness is plain to see"
Again, it looks reasonable sharp on my TV (and in every YouTube review so far), definitely not "well below 720p".
It's a disappointing product for sure, and they're probably due some heavy patching, but these parts of the review didn't sync with my own experience or seemingly with any other reviewer.
And you played all 3 enough to write a review since yesterday? Huh.
IMHO there is no platform where it is pleasure to play this.
So you played 3 big open world games enough in a 24 hour period to say they play like crap? I must be getting slow at my "old" age.
@Bon_Kurei Unstable frame-rate affects GAMEPLAY and makes games play worse.
This is upsetting--I was looking forward to playing these games on the go. I've been there and done that with these games on TV-based consoles already. The only reason I wanted to get them was for the portable factor.
But the Switch itself is not to blame for this. Plenty of older re-releases/remasters/ports look and run fine on the console. This is solely on the efforts of the devs, or lack thereof.
FYI it’s having issues even on a Series X so it definitely isn’t a Switch hardware problem. Grove Street Games is incompetent and clearly skipped the QA phase. Needs some patches badly. They somehow botched PS2 games.
They have made their money already from pre orders and will consider this a success. Just because a company has lots of money it doesn't mean they will invest it in future games.
Some company owners just want to get rich now off previous success and don't care about future reputation.
@DumbElder being as you are already predisposed to not like these games why bother commenting in the first place? You speak as someone who has clearly never played the games due to your snobbish attitude, so just keep scrolling.
Wow lol. I seriously can’t wait to play it now. Worst review I’ve ever read. I think everyone’s expectations were way to high. Games today are beautiful…. Grand theft auto looks exactly like it should from the videos I have seen (and looks improved).
I hope this review is just compelatly bias after I try it and the truth I think is…. Alot of people are spoiled with the last 10 years of how GTA 5 looks and feels. These are three really old games…. Do people expect it to look like gta 5 (I want it to look alittle better then the original and handles better). Also it would take atleast a week to review all this if it just came out for everyone at the same time. I mean gta 3 and vice city are like 15-20 hours if you are in a hurry and San Andreas is like 30-50. If nobody had access to this game until yesterday did you spend the first few hours playing the intros basically and write this? Seriously how can you review something this massive and give it a 4 based on I’d say playing less then 6 hours collectively through the three games. Reviews have really been to focused on graphics across the board the past few years…. I think sit down and be humble you have the luxury of being able to dive in and enjoy these games on a Nintendo (under powered compared to next gen).
There are so many amazing games out there and I just feel the cancel culture of the world is spilling over into gaming now based on flaws on the surface without digging in. Seriously you are all spoiled. My expectations were how the videos looks basically. It looks like gta on a switch… not gta on PS5.
If this 4 is a serious score then I’m sorry. But if you didn’t give the games the respect they deserve and are just being part of this negativite cancel world based on NINTENDO graphics and your way to high of expectations and being first to a review then you kind sir are part of the problem on why Nintendo sometimes doesn’t get nice things and we bitch about it. When we do a site I look to and respect for honest Nintendo reviews gives it a 4. I think if I was working at rockstar I’d say screw Nintendo if that’s not a honest deep dive review and just based on looks. I honestly don’t wanna post this because I feel bad… but I can’t believe it’s a 4 specially after playing the OG Gta games yesterday while I wait for a physical. I was having a blast playing the by today’s standards garbage looking games but from what I seen in the switch videos it looks why better then that. If I was comparing them to gta 5 maybe they would be worth a 4 but yeah. I hope your wrong and this is just a butt hurt review of great expectations when what we got are only games that are better then the original but still look 20 years old. I mean no one bitches that Mario 64 looks like…. Well Mario 64. Don’t assume everyone has played the games before and they are only worth a review of a few hours per game. Review it like ya never played it before.
@Zochmenos yep, and others.
Ah Jaysus. This is why we need virtual consoles. I’d much rather play an old and dated game and appreciate it in the context of its original release, priced accordingly and preserved for a modern audience.
@PJOReilly Idk, sure felt like I hit a nerve because you took the time to respond to my comment and made zero effort to admit that perhaps your heart did come into play more than you let on.
I'm also well aware of the issues of this game for every system it appears on because, in your own words, it's all over the internet. I'm just saying, based on what I've seen, it doesn't look nearly as bad as you make it out to be. But you do you, man.
@Matty1988 I did not even read any comments and went straight what kinda review is this. I felt bad commenting my thoughts about it but I’m glad you said something before me. Im curious as to what you found disappointing?
@Pink_Floyd don't think it's that farfetched, it's not like each game is BOTW sized or anything + they are remasters of games people have already played to death
@Mjoen "Cancel culture"...you keep using that term, I don't think it means what you think it means
@Mjoen My biggest disappointment with the games is the character models and the lack of additional camera control options, particularly when driving. In a game where they patched in a different aiming system and a GTAV style weapon wheel I'm surprised that the camera system for the driving (ie the way it doesn't seem to catch up to you quick enough when turning corners) remains the exact same as my PC copy. Generally the art style and visuals is appealing imo, which is why I really only commented on the overtly bright screenshots that partnered the review.
I've been playing off and on since it unlocked yesterday. 2 hrs on GTA3, 4 on VC and around 8 on SA (It's my favourite game)
@IronMan30 I don't know, it seems like a bit of projection. You have to expect (and maybe even welcome!) a response to review criticism. Conversation is certainly better than typing into the void IMO.
I'm spending my money in Shin Megami Tensei anyway, and probably Star Wars KOTOR. But this is a shame, I wanted to get it later on...
Let's hope they can patch all this mess.
@CharlieGirl but this is using UE4 though
@PJOReilly Thanks for the honest review - what a shame. Why didn't they just upscale the resolution, update the controls and call it a day?
If you watch 5 minutes of video for these games, all the above issues (FPS chop, blurriness, weird character models, pop in, etc.) are quite obvious, not sure what others are arguing about.
Can you guys please pause for a few minutes, I need to get more popcorn for this glorious comment section.
You know, Something tells me mario does not like GTA.
@JasmineDragon Here ya go 🍿
@Bon_Kurei Amen
Blind Squirrel Games can rest a little easier knowing that Sonic Colors Ultimate wasn't nearly this much of a disaster
This better get patched, yeesh. At least I have all of the old ones on Steam.
How disappointing. Thank the Lord I’ve still got them all on the PS2.
@Clyde_Radcliffe As I said, comments on performance issues are valid, I'm specifically talking about criticism on graphics
Dang... what a shame :/ I was looking forward to having these on me switch at some point, but I guess now I opt out. Bit to the side here but wasn't the Ninja Gaiden Trilogy also a poor port to the switch?
Who honestly thought this was going to actually be more than a half-***ed effort?
It's time to do the Lance Vance dance.
@IronMan30 no offense, but that's pretty arrogant. Just because you make a criticism about someone doesn't mean they have to acknowledge it as correct or admit anything, especially if they disagree with your assertion. The reviewer's response to you was civil, and didn't betray any kind of emotion that you're trying to protect.
You guys disagree. That doesn't mean one of you is wrong and the other is right, and it doesn't mean that whatever reason you to find to discredit a review is valid or worthy of consideration. If I said you took this review personally and were responding purely from emotion would you admit that I have a point, or would you tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about? You'd pick the latter, so why should anyone else 'admit' anything to you?
At the end of the day if you're telling someone who wrote a review that they're biased you're just looking for an argument, because that's implied by the format.
@Matty1988 Oh man I was hoping the analog for driving would be like GTA 5. I did get used to the camera yesterday though playing the old gta 3 so as long as drive and reverse are triggers we good.
If it’s bad here it’ll be bad in all systems. I’ll stick with the originals.
Always happy to yeet an expensive game I was on the fence for from my wishlist. Thank you Nintendo Life for taking that bullet for us.
It should be 1/10
I heard the game can crash and lost your 6h gameplay
@KillerBOB what’s funny is I was think about posting the same thing. It sounds more like we expected them to actually make the originals better, but all I remember is how sad the frame rate was on my friends ps2 playing this, compared to anything I was playing on my pc at the time. They could have actually made these games better, but sounds like a direct port with only hd graphics.
Any word from Rockstar if they plan on patching in updates? That would start to appease the masses, including myself.
So a typical problem with porting games to the Switch and its outdated hardware. Playing here on PS5 on performance mode and its the best playing and looking version of Vice City and I've played em all.
@Donutman the irony is literally no one would be complaining if it was the same game with better visuals. It's like you picked one aspect of the review to harp on, ignored the rest of the criticism, based on nothing but the premise that anyone who disagrees with you put less thought into their opinion or just has rose coloured glasses on. Such a frustrating and arrogant sentiment, the vast, vast majority of people should speak of their own experiences and leave the dumb speculation at the door.
@tekoii not sure if anybody else will pick this up but I thought that the Ninja Gaiden ports were perfectly decent. They did get day one patches that might have improved them over the review copies though. Some of the bigger Switch channels seemed happy with them too. In my opinion they were at least as good as the PS3 and Wii U originals.
@Slowdive were they not aware of the issues pre-release?
@Warioware Ahh word word, definitely gotta look into that then thanks ^^. I loved the 3D Ninja Gaiden on Xbox back in the day. That's the thing about patches, it's so useful for devs to fix games. I may go digital if ever I do pick up the Gaiden Trilogy cause the physical isn't complete and plus needs patches anywho. EDIT: Looks like the import version is complete o.o
It’s silly to blame anybody but Rockstar for these issues. Performance on PC is do bad that they’ve pulled it from their online store
Rockstar is dead. Long live rockstar.
Hold on, just let me double check...
"Switch is underpowered"
"Switch can run the Witcher, it isn't underpowered"
"I've seen a YouTube video which looked alright so a reviewer who has actually played the game must be wrong"
Hmmm. Not bingo yet, but I've definitely got a line.
I've watched loads of footage of this and spoken to people who own the game on Switch, and... Its way better than this review is saying. These 'remasters' are exactly that. Graphically superior to the originals and mostly run better with a few hiccups here and there, nothing anywhere near gamebreaking . I wasn't expecting anything crazy. So, my physical pre-order is firmly in place, and I can't wait to start GTA 3 all over again.
I own this on Switch and I really like it, the updated controls are very well implemented.
well apparently is also poor in pc, ps5 and xbox series
@Slowdive
Thanks for the response. Also, that’s good news!
What a cynical cash grab. It's beyond obvious no resources were spent on this. Even the old android version on my phone ran with a steady framerate at a higher resolution. Refund territory.
@Laserbeak1982
You're kinda wrong. There is videos showing that there is massive input lags that actually make the game unplayable because you keep crashing into things due to the input lag and unable to hit any targets using manual aim. Pop ins when cars/people literally pop into the game right in front of you only for you to crash into them. Failing missions due to lag is also what I have seen.
I would wait for patches.
I would give the collection a 7/10 so far at least.
A lot of the problems these games have (pop in/Frame drops, ect)are also in the original PS2 versions and I loved those back in the day and still do to this day. I wasn't expecting built from the ground up complete remake graphics so the games look great to me. For $20 a piece for each game, I think the collection is worth it. I'm so happy to finally play these Classics on a Nintendo console after 20 years, and a handheld Nintendo system at that! Bring on the physical version in December!
Still got my PS2 Slim with GTA Vice City and Red Dead Revolver. GTA games on Nintendo consoles are like trying to play Wutang Clan at a kids party 😄
This game is definitively bad.
I was going to wait regardless as this smells like a game that will be half priced after the holidays. I think it looks okay but it’s much more jarring to deal with the problems listed when actually playing a game instead of just looking at gameplay footage.
I’ve been playing Vice City for the last 4 hours. It’s not good, but I think it’s no worse that the original. Although when I used the remote helicopter to bomb the building site, the explosion felt like a drop to 1fps lol.
Also, a lot of the music that was previously listed as not present (poison arrow, animotion , are just 2 examples) are in the game.
I am still having fun, but I would say a few patches needed.
Not played the other 2 yet
This never looked like anything but a minimal effort cash grab. I'm surprised they made the mistake of not releasing it digitally and physically simultaneously as they should have been trying to maximise sales before the word gets out. Still gonna make them a fair bit of money for their minimal effort though as people will buy anything as long as it has a familiar brand attached to it.
I guess that's how Rockstar felt about releasing this on Switch then...
@DTfeartheBEARD "A lot of the problems these games have (pop in/Frame drops, ect)are also in the original PS2 versions"
.... you'd think the "definitive edition" would have at least been able to make the games run smoothly, at least fix the problems that were the result of pushing the hardware to the limits. They are nearly or over 20 years old! Back before Rockstar threatened legal action on modders they had these games running much better than these embarrassing ports.
Between the cited issues and the pathetic physical release, I am going to pass.
Almost unbelievable behaviour from Rockstar.
I’ll just stick to Chinatown Wars on DS, which looks and runs great, and GTA V on PC.
Hell, I would have given all of these issues a pass had the cartridge been complete, but the additional cut corners are just inexcusable. I may still grab the cart at some point as it will at least include III and San Andreas on the cart (only Vice City will have a mandatory download), but only if it’s around AU$20.
And here we were holding out for a GTAV port on Switch. Ha!
Yeah I figured the Switch might struggle when I saw the Definitive Edition of San Andreas slowing down a lot on the Xbox Series X. After setting it on performance mode and disabling the bloom effect I got it to run pretty smoothly though at about 60 frames.
So yeah, the games could use a lot of optimizing on the Series X, which makes me think that with a review like this for the Switch ports, it might just be a lost cause. Definitely cancelling my physical pre-order, this is a real disappointment.
They would have been better off just doing straight ports of the PS2 or original Xbox versions of these games on the Switch.
They can improve the port and the game at least...
Planned to get this as a Christmas present for my brother. So unless there are massive fixes, I now have to do more shopping. Thanks a lot, Rockstart.
For those wondering, the PC version is worse. So bad that it was taken out of every pc marketplace today... A definitive mess
Well I wasn’t going to pick it up since it’s not going to be a complete physical package. This just makes me glad that I didn’t hold out hope for one and saved myself a good chunk of money. Maybe Saints Row 5 will come to switch.
@NedBundy It's entirely possible you could take my comments as arrogant, but I'm just saying that his criticisms seemed overblown.
Btw, I have zero nostalgia for this collection of games. I didn't play them when they were new.
@zochmenos I am offering tepid defense for the game, fwiw. Take Two clearly didn't allow the devs to put in enough for many people on any system, but this review seems a little over the top.
Nintendo life is spicy today.
As for the game,I am not into politics
@KillerBOB I probably would have been fine with the game had it been just the original games ported, but be real, its not. The originals didn't not at all play like this, pop in was there, but nothing like this and nothing that would interrupt game play. The fps was 25 so that's a non issue.
However, they not only managed include new bugs that never previously existed, but the models are a hack job, and there are random crashes. These and other problems are present across all platforms, to the point that simple rerelease, no modifications would have been better than this.
Well, this is why I decided to pick this up on Xbox One X in December when it goes physical. I knew this wouldn't port well, or get ported well, to Switch.
Also Taketwo needs to take responsibility as well especially since they known to screw up their games as well plus im not suprised that they own rockstar no wonder why these ports completely suck.
I've been playing it. It's good. It's not great, but it's good. 4 out of 10? I'd say 7 out of 10.
Ahh its not that bad... I think someone's forgetting how bad the shooting controls have always been and how some of these problems were always there .. it definitely needs work but its nowhere near unplayable atleast a 6/10.. purely nostalgic reasons to pick this up and its fun ...get it as a Christmas gift if you don't wanna pay for it
Man.. I had a feeling this was going to pan out weird when I noticed no footage of gameplay before release. As excited as I was for handheld GTA, I have to admit I played the GamePass version of San Andreas yesterday and it was leaps and bounds sharper and more responsive than anything I have seen from the Switch port. Guess I'm sticking with my copy of Saints Row 3 for sandbox mayhem on the go, at least for now, and I'll get the trilogy boxed on Series X next month instead.
If Nintendo Life says a game is poor given they hand out 7-10's like candy you know it's a steaming pile of crap.
When so many games have performance issues then it’s switch fault. Old games should just work on new devices. But nintendo decided to remain in stone age, and still asking 60$ for games. They should have give switch pro instead of that oled joke with the same power.
Should have just ported GTAV to Switch and called it a day.
Rockstar confimed as one of the worst sh in the world: mediocre games,terrible realization, price too high... and they take 3y for publishing this garbage ... no excuse ... even on PS5 frame rate is unstable ...
@clianvXAi when so many games has performance issue... then sh may start to work in a more professional way. "the switch is old, it's a switch fault" is only an excuse.
a professional company works well with the hw available.
about this GTA ... strange ... the problem is switch... but on the same console saints row had been ported 1000 times better... and are PS3 games... not PS2...
@KillerBOB some games are better to rest in memories... realky this trilogy never been good... Rockstar brainwashed all with the illusion of "ooooopen world" but open your eyes, those games were mediocre even at launch on PS2: terrible controls, ugly graphics, ugly animations, mediocre and recicle stories, no realism ... but people loved to hear radio stations...
I'm playing Vice City and not run into any issues, sure the graphics are cartoon like but that doesn't really bother me. I think part of the issue for a lot of people will be that GTA on the whole is not as amazing as people like to make out. Sure bashing cars and running over people is a good novelty for a while but the core gameplay is quite repetitive, 'Go here, kill them, come back for another similar quest.'
@quinnyboy58
https://youtu.be/Ach6oCFip0k
https://gfycat.com/flashyfreeindianringneckparakeet
Someone greenlit this
Never trusted Grove Street Games to do these remasters, they basically abused AI upscaling for them when changing the engines, from Renderware to Unreal (like being tasked with translating a best-selling novel in another language and you use Google Translate to finish the job quick).
Also I usually hate Unreal Engine on Switch, this release further cemented my opinion on its performance on the console.
Thus, Rockstar Games is dead (is just another Konami now). I wish we would have been stuck in the 2000s forever
The first major red flag was using the Unreal Engine.
Wow. That is all.
@thaimbomb I guess the more power consoles need better GPUs too, seeing as how every version of this release is reportedly suffering similar problems. It's definitely an issue of modern GPUs not being able to handle 20-year old games and not poor optimization, right?
Bought the trilogy day one. Played only a few missions on all.
1. Pop-ins are clearly an issue.
2. Sometimes stationary objects are rendered a bit late.
3. Speeding is difficult because vehicles in traffic go from 0 opacity to 100 in a second, affecting both gameplay and immersion.
4. Road textures could be completely bland just giving off a color rather than asphalt look.
5. Muddy looks on NPCS, trees, some not very far buildings affect the aesthetics.
6. NPCS and Vehicles' shadows which should form underneath disappear in the evening and stay so until 8:30 in the morning. Yes, you can actually clock it.
7. Even standing against light source in the night doesn't produce any shadow.
8. Noted very few bugs owing to the time I could spend. Car doors opening through your character, getting sunk knees down in the sidewalk are frequent ones.
9. Foliage is clearly updated. But grass blades sticking out in other versions, aesthetically important for me at least, have been completely cropped.
10. Framerate is very unstable.
11. Resolution is trashy in docked but bearable in handheld.
The game has been scaled down just to run on the Switch as opposed to being optimized for the best possible experience on Switch. Saints Row 3 looks crispier on the this console. I'd still say 6.5/10 not 4. But then I have hardly given an hour to each game.
@GrailUK
BODY HARVEST for the Expansion Pass!!!!
@WhiteTrashGuy Yes please (although newer players will probably be frustrated at the speed of the game and frame rate these days.)
People defending this game should look up some footage of LA Noire and compare the two. It runs smoother, in a higher resolution with way better textures and lighting.
I really hope they fix it through updates because this would've been a day 1 buy for me if it wasn't so crap.
Or just give us a port of Chinatown Wars, that was a great game.
So I think I’m at the very end of Pokémon shield. I put it down long ago and usually fire it up when this site shares new codes and I check out the freebies. The new 100 maxed out free chaizard made me really enjoy the game as I’m new to giving Pokémon a try but I’m able to just Cruze through everything now haha (cheep I know but whatever). It makes me seriously wonder how Nintendo and Pokémon don’t have a physical card game with amiibo chips in the cards and have a game on switch that ties it all together. Anyways…. As I am flying around on this super fast bike instead of staring at the character I’m controlling I have been watching the horizon and almost everything just seems to appear out of the blue…. Just everything in the forefront is so vibrant and soothing on the eyes that the NPCs and buildings and trees that just appear in there designated places go overlooked because the focal point visuals just pop out of the screen. GTA it’s the same thing….. it’s just 20 years ago and massive living maps. Like the random bugs and stuff….that’s just how the game always was but at the time it was easy to see past it. At the time it was taking Mario 64 (3D concept world) and making it real life only 5 short years after Nintendo changed the game with the plumber (both games not great visuals by today’s standards at all both changed the game and pushed boundaries). Anyways I guess when the games were brand new getting scores of 97,95,95 it was all so revolutionary that it was not pointed out or it was indeed better. I’ve been reading of spelling errs annoying some people also (I obviously don’t can’t about punctuation or spelling but lots do and it’s understandable). Well as I am about to finish Pokémon shield I took a screenshot where the Hop just said about the final battles comming up “you and your team are the ones battling, but I’ve had butterfree in my stomach since I woke up…” pretty sure that should be spelt “butterflies”.
Anywho I guess when you look for flaws you find them but if you just try and enjoy a game for what it is you’ll see past it and realize maybe why the games had such amazing scores. I think lots of people just don’t have the attention span anymore and if they are not amazing at something they blame the game because they don’t have it mastered out the box. When ya come from a time where ya spend a whole summer trying to beat a dumb Barbie game level on nes for you sister with flying records of death and glitches galore that affect gameplay but you eventually accomplish it….your able to overlook a lot of things that are mostly irrelevant. Being able to do this makes life a lot happier for myself and stress free. Anyways I’m gonna finish the fun Pokémon game… flaws and all so I can justify the new one maybe… I want a jacked up Pokémon from the get go though… makes it a lot more fun (for my own preference).
And yet some people are defending this release, saying ''it's not so bad'' and that people ''shouldn't jump on the hate bandwagon''
Uhuh. I think not. Just like Sonic Colours Ultimate, this release is inexcusably glitchy and just straightup bad. If you think it's not THAT bad, well...
Ludo sad. But I bet I still buy it! (Physical, when the price drops a bit)
I’m playing it on switch and I’m thoroughly enjoying it because the underlying games are still incredibly fun and some of the “enhancements” do spice things up a bit. But I think this review is %100 fair. For what it is, the self proclaimed “definitive edition” it’s about a 4/10.
It’s riddled with problems and unacceptable performance. It would be so much more fun if they fix it!
The reviewer has done prospective buyers a service by warming them about the legitimately bad performance of these games (so you can make up your own mind if that’s acceptable to you or not) and is also effectively using their platform the apply pressure on Rockstar to improve these games, which would benefit all players.
Hope they fix it…
Also I’d love a follow up like a month after the physical versions drop. I wanna know what one sells the best in the long run across the consoles since they all came out the same day.
Also I’d guess most things get ironed out by the time the physicals drop…. Digital are the test subjects before the physical drops I’m sure. 3 massive games in one game in who knows how long they have been working on it. Say since the switch came out for fun. That’s still not long for something of this size.
We live in a world where no game is ever complete because everything can be updated/patched. Huge games like cyberpunk and this trilogy….they need the world to point out the errs…. Not like a team of a few people will find all the errors. If you wanted this game perfect it would never be finished in the switches life cycle. You want this game close to perfect…. You unleash it and fix it as necessary. And it cuts the final editing time probably from a few years to a few months because nothing need to be perfect out the gate… Nintendo strives for that with there own ips…. Other places use user feedback. It just is what it is.
I've started with GTA3 and having a blast so far. It's exactly how I remember playing it back in the day, except with the comfort and convenience of handheld. I've not encountered a single issue on GTA3 that I didn't recognise from playing the original.
lol
This would have been so much better if they only ported the original versions, bumped the resolutions and made them 60fps. New game engine and "modernized gameplay" didn't add any value to this package of garbage whatsoever.
@Mjoen ...butterfree is a pokemon, my guy, the butterfly pokemon, in fact
@somebread yeah I googled it after. Just finished the game right now though. I know nothing of the Pokémon besides like 4 of them. Was a relaxing fun game.
It’s almost universally being reported that these remasters are garbage - a clear cash grab
This review still feels rushed as even IGN is waiting till next week. I'm not canceling my physical pre-order and hoping the first of several patches is released in December. I've never played all three of these games and I refuse to buy an unavailable PS5 just to play this game when even that version is imperfect. I'll just use my imagination as I play Vice City blasting Laura Branigan's "Self Control". ✌️
@onex I have played them. They're bad games.
@KillerBOB false. Nintendo received criticism for 3d Mario Allstars collection.
if anything, this gat trilogy release puts into perspective just how good a job Nintendo did with porting their games- they are all solid ports of the originals (with small upgrades) while maintaining what made the originals so special.
CANCELLED my eta trilogy pre order. probably only has one game on the card just to add insult to injury
@super-nintendo IGN is waiting on the consensus before scoring it. They don't want to offend their friends.
@PJOReilly such a perfect tagline! (By far the hardest part to write, I find 😂)
@NedBundy based on the 4/10, I don’t think I had to look hard at the review to agree that it is a lazy port. It’s a ps2 game. Personally, review bad or not, I would have bought this if it wasn’t $60. Or if i could get just 1 game. I guess it’s another thing to harp on.
Luckily we have diablo 2 resurrected on the switch, a wonderful remaster of a classic game that is being ignored for some reason
Well...I guess I'll go back to playing these on PS2 like I've been doing.
@DumbElder
It’s a bad game to you and you only. It’s a subjective opinion. Others feel differently as they’re entitled to. If you think your opinion is right and others just don’t want to admit you’re right, you’re extremely foolish. And ironically, wrong.
Honestly wish I had read this review before purchasing. The "remaster" is hugely disrespectful to the originals which, for their time, were all time great video games.
I am 🙏 patches will fix some of the issues. My physical pre-order wont be cancelled for now
Almost bought this a couple days ago but got Mario Party Superstars instead. Glad I waited I had no clue this game could be that bad, not sure if I’ll ever get it now.
@electrolite77 what'a a subjective opinion? Could you elaborate please?
Holding up the PS2 version as a justification for the state of the remasters is strange in my opinion. If it was just a straight port of the PS2 versions then sure, fine, whatever. But it isn't. Its supposed to be better. Its marketed as being better. And one of the bare minimum things that you would reasonably expect from the remasters is HD graphics, even setting aside all of the other "improvements". On that basis I would think that the old PC versions running on maxed out settings would be a more suitable baseline comparison. Scale it back to 720p for handheld on the Switch.
Now that is not to say that the PS2 version was not fun and that the remasters would not also be fun if they ran at least as well as the PS2 version. But that is not what we are told we are buying and so any criticisms of how it falls short of what we were promised remain valid. Would it be worth a 4/10 if it were on par with the PS2 version (which the review contends that it is not anyway)? That I don't know. Maybe more a 6-7/10 on account of the broken promises but I'm not sure.
Maybe if they can sort the framerate issues out a bit I'd be tempted if it shows up at a steep discount, though it is not especially compelling as it stands.
@Bizzyb came here to say exactly this. Saints Row IV has posed no problems that I've noticed during my play through so how GTA can't keep up is beyond me. This is entirely on Rockstar, nothing on the Switch hardware.
Why does this Nintendo website keep recommending I buy games on other consoles, especially when they apparently haven't even confirmed for themselves whether the same problems exist on other versions?
@clianvXAi thats bs these poorly optimized ports is on the devs hands not the switch they were just being lazy and making quick cash grab thats it.
Mishaps like these are why I always tend to lean toward companies making NEW games rather than ports/remasters/remakes of great games from past eras.
Nostalgia is often a delicate, fickle & fleeting thing... especially when examined and/or experienced again through the present's lenses. Sometimes it can go well, but too often it can be a letdown. My hope is for the games industry to avoid what Hollywood has predominantly become... and contrarily strives to create new fresh great experiences rather than continuously regurgitating the past.
... Wun can only hope.
@DumbElder
Funny thing is, judging from your other posts, I could actually believe you’re being serious.
Considering the two Saints Row games on Switch now show it IS fully possible to pull this style game off on the Switch, it just makes this ouch even more to read. Glad I didn't preorder; I almost did off that same feeling of, "It's Rockstar and GTA; they treat that like their delicately sick baby. No way they're releasing these in ***** form."
Wheeeeeeew, bullet dodged. I'll wait until I begin seeing reviews with key words like "post patch" saying better things.
@Orpheus79V I'm willing to volunteer as tribute to be the token person to reference back to on that whole "was actually worse back in the day".
I played GTA3 my first time before Vice City was even a rumor. I can ASSURE you it was nowhere near gestures vaguely towards whatever offering Rockstar is passing off as GTA whatever all this mess is. No way. It had its issues but at least it was MOSTLY smooth framed enough you could ***** around in a fire fight without it feeling like a turn based battle.
Think it's just some ppl don't realize you can criticize something you love and still love it.
@KillerBOB Not sure what you're talking about - I am currently playing the PS2 versions and there is nothing here to suggest the issues mentioned exist.
Fantastic Game! Don't listen to the review bombs! I highly recommend it.
@SnesSwitch I agree, it's fun to play this on Nintendo Switch! An easy Patch can fix minor issues.
These games even have problems on the PS5 (don't know about Xbox since I don't own a Series X and haven't looked into those versions) which is a beast from a hardware perspective so it's not shocking. Extremely disappointing though, as the review states, really shouldn't have been able to mess this up but somehow the devs did.
This collection was absolute garbage. I speedrun the games and I have a passion for them and yet I hate seeing them butchered here. Terrible frame rates, input lag is a huge problem, I encountered numerous game breaking bugs where missions refused to continue and I had to reload the game. The graphics look like play dough mixed with a blur effect in Docked mode, just unbearable. I've found numerous graphics glitches and the characters look terrible and either Frankenstein abominations or like dolls with a shiny plastic look. I went back to the OG versions and I regret buying this. Review was spot on, thank you PJ. Grove Street Games should be ashamed of themselves as this should have ran flawlessly on all platforms.
I just finished the story in GTA3 and really enjoyed it. I encountered no game breaking glitches. The framerate is the biggest problem but it’s no worse than the original release. I’m not sure what you meant about changing the brightness and contrast because that wasn’t a problem for me. I also don’t mind the graphical updates, and the controls are so much better (gyro aiming, button mapping and weapon selection wheel). This is nowhere near Balan Wonderworld. These are great games with a few glitches and framerate dips. My main concern is balancing the audio levels. I'd give it a 7/10 at least.
@DumbElder
Obviously you can have your opinion, but on a fundamental level these are not bad games. They have some of the highest metacritic ratings of all time. For good reason.
Story: Interesting characters and narrative inspired by films
Gameplay: Massive, detailed open world, vehicles, weapons
Visuals: Diverse environments, iconic structures, colourful
Audio: Variety of radio stations, great voice actors
Value: 60 hours of story, many extra missions, collectibles
This is a scrappy port of a great trilogy of games. It's a shame that they didn't respect the source material, and the historical significance of these iconic games.
@tekoii Yeah I went digital a few years back because my nomadic lifestyle lead to the destruction of many of my physical games and it wasn't practical to lug them about everywhere. Also, these days I feel like you often only get half the game or the beta version since so much patching and updating happens after the release.
With Ninja Gaiden that's just my opinion (and I don't have great eyesight) but they looked fine to me, just not much of an upgrade (if any) from the originals. Still fun games though. I think Switchup were pretty positive overall and along with Nintendolife they are reviewers that I tend to trust and often agree with.
I've only just seen the rain effect. What were they thinking? I'm flabbergasted someone thought a) Yeah, that looks good and b) let's release it.
@Klump_Soul sure, but the list you just wrote down I can easily counter. They're definitely bad games to me in the same sense as lil wayne is bad music or star wars the last jedi is a bad film.
Don't "pick this up on another platform," please!
Play the non-"definitive" editions, any way you can! The myriad problems here are not limited to the Switch version.
If you have nostalgia for these titles, the originals still look and play great, and there is a high probability that you already own them on PC. Otherwise, piracy is your friend here since Rockstar has removed the good versions from all the stores.
In fact I'd say it's only Switch players who should pay any attention to the Definitive Edition. Handheld GTA is the only reason for this product to exist.
@CurryPowderKeg79
Same, just cancelled my physical pre-order. What a joke! We get Saber Interactive who gives us The Witcher 3 running on Switch but these incompetent idiots can't get 3 much older games running?!?
Lazy cash grab and nothing more it seems. I wont even buy this trilogy elsewhere, I'm just not touching it period at this point!
They've done screwed it up.
@DumbElder
Well if you don't like sandbox style games then, it's not a bad game. That is your opinion from playing it, but sandbox games require your own creativity in making your own fun by playing with the tools they give you. My favorite things were always causing chaos and then seeing how all the scripted NPCs react or just taking a motorcycle through the most random places.
@Matthew90 You missed my point entirely.
Main two reasons were having a physical box to add to my switch collection and resale value if I ever decide to sell it. In fairness I could also have waited to buy it when the price drops, which I considered, but when I did that with LA noire the shops stopped restocking it here, and I wanted to show some support for gta on switch too 👍
@SnesSwitch Dude you only need to look at your comments history to see that you are the biggest Nintendo fanboy on this site or a troll. Either way no one here should take you seriously
@Warioware Right.. that really echoes a lot of the reason I'm also comfortable with digital, despite enjoying physical games as well. Digital is just so convenient. You think, you grab switch, then you pick game, you play lol. Ohh.. and my thing with Ninja Gaiden is, do all of the games play well? Oh man, I can see NG going on sale for like $20 .
@KillerBOB These actually look and play worse than the originals though these are a buggy mess that's the whole point. Even if they just put the original PS2 games on a Switch card they would have been better off rather than releasing them in this state.
@GrailUK Try playing these remasters and the originals before both making yourselves look foolish. These look and play far worse than the originals they are a buggy mess.
@wizzgamer ??
@GrailUK Exactly lol 😆
sadly the Switch is not powerful enough to run this game.
@tekoii I think that they play as well as I remember them playing on the PS3, Wii U and the Vita (NG2 was scaled down a fair bit on the Vita but was still a decent version). As I said, my eyesight is not the best so I'm not usually great at noticing framerate and resolution dips but it all felt fine to me. I'm pretty sure it's already had a reasonable sale so if you're prepared to wait a bit longer I think it will probably see some deep sales in the future. But, to me, they are as good on the Switch as they have been elsewhere (didn't play them on PS4 or above though).
@Warioware Nice, I'd say as long as it isn't a juddering mess I'm cool to play me some Ninja Gaiden.. though you might be right about those deeper sales taking a bit more time, NG was just released this year. I seriously need me some sort of hack & slash action on me Switch. Thanks for letting me know about your experience with it!
After playing Vice City for about 10 hours I have experienced it crashing 3 times. One time I was in the middle of doing the ambulance mission, which probably takes an hour to complete and there is no way to save your progress. As much as I can tolerate slow framerate, this is inexcusable. They need to patch it!
It seemed perfectly fine to me certain areas can be a lil dark but nothing that affected gameplay if you enjoyed the trilogy the first time there should be no reason not to like this
The ps5 release has been met with similar disdain. No matter which version you pick, Rockstar messed up this one in a technical level, leaving a bad stain on their track record. I could not be happier. I abhor the entire series and the nihilism it stands for. Rightful score, no doubt.
@Giancarlothomaz
Sorry to inform you, but apparently ps5 is not powerful enough to run this mess either. The game has got bad scores not depending on the platform.
Same goes to the reviewer. Why did you say people should get this to another platform since all versions apparently suck? I bet you didn't even play the ps5 version, but rather just assumed it would be better.
Edit: LOL, I just read this game is now the lowest rated game ever in metacritic, based on the user score. Of course, user scores aren't really worth anything, but it's still quite an achievement from a gta title
p.s. this would be the xboxone version with user score 0.4. The switch version rises to the heights of 0.6, and according to the users, the ps5 version barely wins with a mighty user score of 0.8!
@tekoii No problem. I'm not sure where you are but there's the Black Friday sale in Europe starting tomorrow (almost a guarantee in the US and other territories I'd say) and I'm sure there'll be some sort of Christmas / end of year / holidays sale in a few weeks. I would be very surprised if the NG collection doesn't appear in at least one of those. Enjoy.
@Warioware Ahh nice, yea I saw the thing on NL. I was like, I completely forgot about Black Friday and all the coming discounts. May be a good time to pick it up I watched the switch up review and they do seem to be glowing about it.
@tekoii Not sure if it's in the European one or not but I think some other KOEI stuff is. I'd say it's worth a punt at a sale price if you're a fan of NG. Wouldn't bother with the digital deluxe version though, you could probably find most of those images through Google anyway!
@Warioware Yea, especially a collection at a good sale price (im looking for a $20) on NG is good nuff for me! And LOL about the google images XD!
I refunded it and I recommend that others do the same. Nintendo gave me my full refund back to my original payment method. I was going to wait for a patch and yet things kept getting worse. They even forgot to add music in the clubs and bars of San Andreas. I went back to the OG Xbox versions that are backwards compatible. This collection was poorly made and has nothing to do with the hardware. Ps5 can't even keep 60fps in the games lol. Review is spot on.
@tekoii Yeah I spent about two pounds on the digital artbook and soundtrack and looked at them for about 5 minutes before deleting. The games are where it's at here.
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Hope Rockstar port more Game on to switch and learn lesson from Trilogy Definitive Edition
I've just started playing it today and so far it runs just fine.
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