@ikki5 at the gamestop in the country where I live (switzerland) the cheapest ps4 (with no games) costs as much as WiiU (with splatoon).....
I really hope Nintendo will do a price cut down if they want to sell some units this Christmas, cos Xbox1 and Ps4 are already confirmed that will have their price cut down like on Black Friday for Xmas
@Dave24 ROTR sold 1/3 at launch than its predecessor..... of course at the end only SE will know if the bargain was good or not. (better getting the Microsoft money in advance or try to reach highest selling numbers overall?). The game will be released on Ps4 next year, yes, but after Uncharted 4 and together with a tons of other Sony Exclusives. I am pretty sure this will become a "bargain bin" game for Sony userbase (considering also that part of such userbase was pissed by SE move).....
On your second point, I do not think it would have been so much better to have XCX released on 2013 or 2014, since the WiiU userbase was even smaller and there were big games like all the Marios.... It is also unfair to compare it with other AAA games from other consoles.... you should just compare it with other games on same platform or with the previous Xenoblade on Wii....
@JaxonH Yeah. It will be my first WiiU game I will play in a long time too... and judging by the list of WiiU games for 2016 will be also the lonely one till ZeldaU (if and when will come for WiiU).
I really hope it will sale better in EU and USA, cos it totally deserve some success....
@liljmoore Could be.... but undoubtedly it was a wretched decision from Square Enix management as sales numbers tends to confirm. I believe they will think twice before doing something like this again. Same goes for SFV for me, 3rd parties timed exclusives just sound stupid and are a easy way to piss a fanbase....
@JaxonH I see your point and I agree. XCX looks fantastic (I still have to play it but at the moment still no time to finish Witcher and Fallout....).
But please also consider that the "prequel" was sold on a console (at the end of its life-cycle) that had X10 userbase, and that on WiiU gems like XCX, TW101, Bayonetta2 all under performed.... seems a trend. The only new IP that seems selling like classic Mario and Zelda has been Splatoon so far on the system....
My point on Tomb Raider was that it sold much more better on Ps3+Ps4 compared to Xbox360 + XB1 (by approx 1 million) , and still Square decided to give the time exclusive to the worst selling (for the brand) console (for a bag of money).
@liljmoore About Tomb Raider it was Square Enix shooting on its own foot by making it a timed exclusive on XB1, considering that the most of Tomb Raider fanbase is historically on Playstation consoles.....
Not really impressive numbers to be honest. I was expecting at least double for both software and hardware sales, considering how here everyone looks crazy for Mario Maker (videogame sites included). PS4 did 54k units when metal gear solid launched, and its fall was predictable, since MGSV is there already since two weeks and there was no other big releases for the platform.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR So first you said something like "It is ok to lock some content to Amiibo cos they wanna sell the figurine, and this content is generally not big, so if you don't want the amiibo you don't loose to much" and then you just said the opposite "so with coop and extra stuff there is a big value in the amiibo, so is kinda good to buy it"......(see #40 and #45).
So essentially we can assume that not matter what, Nintendo is right. It is our bad that we would like to have extra contents without wanting the plastic toy with it.....
@FLUX_CAPACITOR Yeah, their strategy is pretty clear....
But still, they shouldn't lock a coop mode (just an example, it could also be extra levels, playable characters and so on) behind a plastic figure.
As also @Jazzer94 said, give me the option to get more "important" extras as only digital.
Meanwhile, speaking as a ps4 owner too, there are big AAA games that keep delivering "not so important" extras for free, not asking you any price. I am thinking of Diablo 3 (just released an extra zone, extra gears, extra enemies) the Witcher 3, Driveclub (that is almost insane in free contents), Helldivers. Take this last one, they release new weapons, stratagems and vehicles in small packs that costs 3-4 Euros each, in group of 3, and you can get the whole trio for 10 Euros or so.... So it is completely free to the user what they wanna get. But new bosses, planets and missions are released for free to everyone. I like this policies more than having to cover my living room in useless plastic toys (I speak as a grown up 30years old guy now, I understand could be different for kids or atcion-figures fetishists)
Indeed is a trend that I don't personally like. It is ok the dlc philosophy (as long as at D1 I get a complete game), since normally prices for add-ons are proportional to their content. But here I am kind of forced to pay 15 Euro for a figurine if I wanna have more in-game stuff (and normally with amiibo the content is comparable to little expansion packs). What If I don't give a damn about the figurine? Why can't I pay only the price of the digital content?
It would be more fair if I can choose between paying 15 Euro for Figure+COntent or 2.50 Euro for the content itself.....
@MarvinTheMartian #129 I believe is like that because the lack of voice chat is the least f the problems this game has....Still, your is a good point. In a game like this no voice chat means almost no way of tactical interaction between team member. Same for Splatoon, in both games is a major letdown for me.
So, they ask 60 bucks for half baked / half broken singleplayer experience while the multiplayer is a pay to win system same as the free pc version.... Smart, very smart.
This will be one of the few time I won't be disappointed by N fanbase if the game bombs. There are many other 3rd parties titles on WiiU that deserve love. I will stick to planetside 2 and bf4 for my massive fps fix
@tysonfury the witcher 3, bloodborne, helldivers, diablo 3, galak z, sound shapes, borderlands collection, dark souls scholar of first sin, driveclub, transistor, skulls of shogun, toukiden, samirai warriors 4, Mordor, Aloen isolation... There is already a lot of great titles on ps4. For every genra you can choose already 3/4 titles at least. Plus the indie selection is great and not much shovelware. I seriously doubt you can be disappointed, maybe dig a lil on metacritic or specialized Ps sites, I am sure you are gonna find something for your taste
So, nothing from here to late october and then 2 games the same day!? And fatal frame digital only..... Favourite sport at Nintendo must be foot shooting
@rjejr i perfectly agree with you. It seems N is doing the minimum effort to not piss too much the wiiU userbase, and piss them enough to introduce NX asap...
I was tempted by Devil Third, but the recent first impressions I red put me down on this..... Moreover MGS: Phantom Pain is coming (1st September), and I still have to finish the Witcher 3 before getting it.... plus, I was able to get hooked by Helldivers again (thanks to some amazing dlc packs just released)....
Nintendo fans (part of them) need to stop being delusional about sales boost. This is not happening, it did not happen (or slightly happened) with major titles (Mario Kart 8, SMB), so it won't be a Pokemon spin-off to "save the day".
WiiU sold and will sell poorly compared to other consoles, just accept that.
The only one that could have partially saved the console was ZeldaU, but since it was delayed and will probably be released close to NX release too, I won't see many people jumping on the WiiU train, they will likely wait a bit more to see how the NX is and they will probably grab Zelda there, the port to new console is almost inevitable.
If it is digital download only, as i believe by reading this (cartridges? Nahhh cmon), then it mean Nintendo will skip the distributors. Then this means that they need to strongly advertise their games on the media, since you won t see them at gamestop anymore. Then i think about Nintendo skills at marketing... And i am not sure if I cry or laugh...
@the101 instead, by judging the usual umbalanced reactions here, I believe that a "sleeping person simulator" reskinned as Mario would sell like hotcakes on WiiU....
@HollywoodHogan #29 If Patcher will praise the NX, He will automatically become the national hero of this site, be prepared for hundreds of U-turns....
For the good, I would say.... I am sort of relieved by this news.
Make Metroid, FZero, 3D Marios, innovate in gameplay... things you KNEW how to do.... concentrate on that. Merge your 30 years of experience with new technologies and tastes. Thanks
@MitchVogel #47 Agree with you. Since the announcement, I thought this should have been added to NSMBU in order to give that game a bit more "meat" and show to the market what the Gamepad could do.
Nowadays there are plenty of platforms with editors, LBP, N++, Sound Shapes (which is amazing, if you have one of the platform it has been released for and you love electronic music, you have no excuse not to try it!!). Despite what someone says, this is not the second discovery of fire.... maybe it is just for Nintendo....
Plus, by seeing how the fanbase goes crazy for this, having this tool builted in the console at launch would have sold WiiU like cupcakes, imho...
@Mrclaycoat by reading the article, it sounds more like Nintendo just block the project, so I guess this game will come out under another name and probably on other platforms (PC Xbox, Ps4)
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Re: Nintendo Achieves Modest Results in UK Christmas Charts
No surprises since the lack of games. A bit sad for the poor performance of XCX, the game is a true gem and deserve much more popularity.
Also the console price is still too high considering the lack of software and popularity amd the aggressive recent sales of xbox and ps4.
Re: Editorial: Xenoblade Chronicles X Has Tiny Text - Time for an Update?
It is frustrating, but the absence of the audio mixer is even more.... Sometimes the music is too loud and it isnot possible to turn it off
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@ikki5 at the gamestop in the country where I live (switzerland) the cheapest ps4 (with no games) costs as much as WiiU (with splatoon).....
I really hope Nintendo will do a price cut down if they want to sell some units this Christmas, cos Xbox1 and Ps4 are already confirmed that will have their price cut down like on Black Friday for Xmas
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@Dave24 ROTR sold 1/3 at launch than its predecessor..... of course at the end only SE will know if the bargain was good or not. (better getting the Microsoft money in advance or try to reach highest selling numbers overall?). The game will be released on Ps4 next year, yes, but after Uncharted 4 and together with a tons of other Sony Exclusives. I am pretty sure this will become a "bargain bin" game for Sony userbase (considering also that part of such userbase was pissed by SE move).....
On your second point, I do not think it would have been so much better to have XCX released on 2013 or 2014, since the WiiU userbase was even smaller and there were big games like all the Marios.... It is also unfair to compare it with other AAA games from other consoles.... you should just compare it with other games on same platform or with the previous Xenoblade on Wii....
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@JaxonH Yeah. It will be my first WiiU game I will play in a long time too... and judging by the list of WiiU games for 2016 will be also the lonely one till ZeldaU (if and when will come for WiiU).
I really hope it will sale better in EU and USA, cos it totally deserve some success....
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@liljmoore Could be.... but undoubtedly it was a wretched decision from Square Enix management as sales numbers tends to confirm. I believe they will think twice before doing something like this again. Same goes for SFV for me, 3rd parties timed exclusives just sound stupid and are a easy way to piss a fanbase....
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@JaxonH I see your point and I agree. XCX looks fantastic (I still have to play it but at the moment still no time to finish Witcher and Fallout....).
But please also consider that the "prequel" was sold on a console (at the end of its life-cycle) that had X10 userbase, and that on WiiU gems like XCX, TW101, Bayonetta2 all under performed.... seems a trend. The only new IP that seems selling like classic Mario and Zelda has been Splatoon so far on the system....
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@liljmoore Who is hoping the game to fail?
My point on Tomb Raider was that it sold much more better on Ps3+Ps4 compared to Xbox360 + XB1 (by approx 1 million) , and still Square decided to give the time exclusive to the worst selling (for the brand) console (for a bag of money).
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
@liljmoore About Tomb Raider it was Square Enix shooting on its own foot by making it a timed exclusive on XB1, considering that the most of Tomb Raider fanbase is historically on Playstation consoles.....
Re: Evergreen Nintendo Releases Hang Tough in the UK as Xenoblade Chronicles X Tumbles Out of Top 40
No Marketing + small Console Base + Niche consumerbase = to this
Re: Random: There Are Legend of Zelda Mods in Fallout 4, Of Course
I am playing it for quite some time now and i did mot find such big bugs....
Re: Take a Look at Nintendo's Game Awards 2015 Nominees
@Santa I have no idea what you are talking about.... But I guess you don t have too....
All the games were perfectly playable D1
Re: Video: See the Differences Between Star Fox Zero at E3 and Now
It still uses the same amount of polygons as an early ps2 game...
Re: Rumour: New Report Suggests That Konami Has All But Abandoned Console DevelopmentĀ
RIP KONAMI
Re: Talking Point: Star Fox Zero's Delay Could Be The Final Nail In The Wii U's Coffin
The delay of zelda was the final nail, headstone and flowers.... All that came after was just natural evolution.
Re: Super Mario Maker Tops The Charts In Japan, Causes Wii U Sales To Double
Not really impressive numbers to be honest. I was expecting at least double for both software and hardware sales, considering how here everyone looks crazy for Mario Maker (videogame sites included). PS4 did 54k units when metal gear solid launched, and its fall was predictable, since MGSV is there already since two weeks and there was no other big releases for the platform.
Re: Shovel Knight amiibo Confirms "Evolving" Relationship With Indies, Says Nintendo
@FLUX_CAPACITOR So first you said something like "It is ok to lock some content to Amiibo cos they wanna sell the figurine, and this content is generally not big, so if you don't want the amiibo you don't loose to much" and then you just said the opposite "so with coop and extra stuff there is a big value in the amiibo, so is kinda good to buy it"......(see #40 and #45).
So essentially we can assume that not matter what, Nintendo is right. It is our bad that we would like to have extra contents without wanting the plastic toy with it.....
Re: Shovel Knight amiibo Confirms "Evolving" Relationship With Indies, Says Nintendo
@FLUX_CAPACITOR Yeah, their strategy is pretty clear....
But still, they shouldn't lock a coop mode (just an example, it could also be extra levels, playable characters and so on) behind a plastic figure.
As also @Jazzer94 said, give me the option to get more "important" extras as only digital.
Meanwhile, speaking as a ps4 owner too, there are big AAA games that keep delivering "not so important" extras for free, not asking you any price. I am thinking of Diablo 3 (just released an extra zone, extra gears, extra enemies) the Witcher 3, Driveclub (that is almost insane in free contents), Helldivers. Take this last one, they release new weapons, stratagems and vehicles in small packs that costs 3-4 Euros each, in group of 3, and you can get the whole trio for 10 Euros or so.... So it is completely free to the user what they wanna get. But new bosses, planets and missions are released for free to everyone. I like this policies more than having to cover my living room in useless plastic toys (I speak as a grown up 30years old guy now, I understand could be different for kids or atcion-figures fetishists)
Re: Shovel Knight amiibo Confirms "Evolving" Relationship With Indies, Says Nintendo
Indeed is a trend that I don't personally like. It is ok the dlc philosophy (as long as at D1 I get a complete game), since normally prices for add-ons are proportional to their content. But here I am kind of forced to pay 15 Euro for a figurine if I wanna have more in-game stuff (and normally with amiibo the content is comparable to little expansion packs). What If I don't give a damn about the figurine? Why can't I pay only the price of the digital content?
It would be more fair if I can choose between paying 15 Euro for Figure+COntent or 2.50 Euro for the content itself.....
Re: Shovel Knight amiibo Confirms "Evolving" Relationship With Indies, Says Nintendo
Give us Bayonetta.... it will be the only amiibo I'll get
Re: Rumour: XSEED Less Than Happy With Nintendo's About-Face On Publishing Devil's Third
After the reviews, it went good for XSEED....
Re: Review: Devil's Third (Wii U)
@MarvinTheMartian #129 I believe is like that because the lack of voice chat is the least f the problems this game has....Still, your is a good point. In a game like this no voice chat means almost no way of tactical interaction between team member. Same for Splatoon, in both games is a major letdown for me.
Re: Review: Devil's Third (Wii U)
@IceClimbers #103 Didn't know they made also a PS1 version....
Re: Review: Devil's Third (Wii U)
So, they ask 60 bucks for half baked / half broken singleplayer experience while the multiplayer is a pay to win system same as the free pc version.... Smart, very smart.
This will be one of the few time I won't be disappointed by N fanbase if the game bombs. There are many other 3rd parties titles on WiiU that deserve love. I will stick to planetside 2 and bf4 for my massive fps fix
Re: Updated 'Roadmap' Infographic Shows Nintendo's 2015 Release Line-Up
@tysonfury the witcher 3, bloodborne, helldivers, diablo 3, galak z, sound shapes, borderlands collection, dark souls scholar of first sin, driveclub, transistor, skulls of shogun, toukiden, samirai warriors 4, Mordor, Aloen isolation... There is already a lot of great titles on ps4. For every genra you can choose already 3/4 titles at least. Plus the indie selection is great and not much shovelware. I seriously doubt you can be disappointed, maybe dig a lil on metacritic or specialized Ps sites, I am sure you are gonna find something for your taste
Re: Nintendo Confirms Super Mario Maker Console Bundle and Key Release Dates for North America and Europe
So, nothing from here to late october and then 2 games the same day!? And fatal frame digital only..... Favourite sport at Nintendo must be foot shooting
Re: Talking Point: PokkƩn Tournament May Not Be a Wii U Saviour, But It Can Provide a Welcome Boost
@rjejr i perfectly agree with you. It seems N is doing the minimum effort to not piss too much the wiiU userbase, and piss them enough to introduce NX asap...
Re: Nintendo Download: 27th August (Europe)
I was tempted by Devil Third, but the recent first impressions I red put me down on this..... Moreover MGS: Phantom Pain is coming (1st September), and I still have to finish the Witcher 3 before getting it.... plus, I was able to get hooked by Helldivers again (thanks to some amazing dlc packs just released)....
Re: Talking Point: PokkƩn Tournament May Not Be a Wii U Saviour, But It Can Provide a Welcome Boost
Nintendo fans (part of them) need to stop being delusional about sales boost. This is not happening, it did not happen (or slightly happened) with major titles (Mario Kart 8, SMB), so it won't be a Pokemon spin-off to "save the day".
WiiU sold and will sell poorly compared to other consoles, just accept that.
The only one that could have partially saved the console was ZeldaU, but since it was delayed and will probably be released close to NX release too, I won't see many people jumping on the WiiU train, they will likely wait a bit more to see how the NX is and they will probably grab Zelda there, the port to new console is almost inevitable.
Re: Poll: Is Pokkén Tournament The Wii U Release You've Been Waiting For?
No, not interested. I have already tekken tag and smash bros as brawlers, and a real pokemon game would have been better.
WiiU needs other stuff... Such a proper Mario Strikers...
Re: Poll: Is Pokkén Tournament The Wii U Release You've Been Waiting For?
No, not interested. I have already tekken tag and smash bros as brawlers, and a real pokemon game would have been better.
WiiU needs other stuff... Such a proper Mario Strikers...
Re: New Patent Sparks Talk of Potential NX Details
Only digital means also no second hand... And by seeing how Nintendo games rarely get discounted... yeah... If it s like that, is shelf for me...
Re: New Patent Sparks Talk of Potential NX Details
@Retr_acro you should try to open the box of the witcher 3 then.... Game, guide, manual, audio cd, stickers and world map... Or gtaV...
Re: New Patent Sparks Talk of Potential NX Details
If it is digital download only, as i believe by reading this (cartridges? Nahhh cmon), then it mean Nintendo will skip the distributors. Then this means that they need to strongly advertise their games on the media, since you won t see them at gamestop anymore. Then i think about Nintendo skills at marketing... And i am not sure if I cry or laugh...
Re: PokƩmon Brawler PokkƩn Tournament Coming To Wii U Early Next Year
@the101 instead, by judging the usual umbalanced reactions here, I believe that a "sleeping person simulator" reskinned as Mario would sell like hotcakes on WiiU....
Re: PokƩmon Brawler PokkƩn Tournament Coming To Wii U Early Next Year
You could find a great, amazing brawler on WiiU by getting TEKKEN TAG 2.... But hey, it is not related to Mario or pokemon or zelda.....
Re: PokkƩn Tournament Trademark Surfaces In Europe, NFC Connectivity Mentioned
@Kaze_Memaryu I am wondering if they'll dare to "amibomize" the whole pokemon pool.....
Re: PokkƩn Tournament Trademark Surfaces In Europe, NFC Connectivity Mentioned
@Djreisat ehehehehe cheers mate! At least I was not called "wholetthedogsout"..... I guess that would have bring me on the verge of suicide....
Re: PokkƩn Tournament Trademark Surfaces In Europe, NFC Connectivity Mentioned
@Octane yes.... with Nintendo you will never be sure of their marketing choices...
Re: PokkƩn Tournament Trademark Surfaces In Europe, NFC Connectivity Mentioned
If they are clever and want to sell some more WiiU in Europe, they will bring it to Arcades AND WiiU....
Re: Analysts Suggest That Nintendo's Quality Of Life Initiative Has Been "Put On The Back Burner"
@HollywoodHogan #29 If Patcher will praise the NX, He will automatically become the national hero of this site, be prepared for hundreds of U-turns....
Re: Analysts Suggest That Nintendo's Quality Of Life Initiative Has Been "Put On The Back Burner"
For the good, I would say.... I am sort of relieved by this news.
Make Metroid, FZero, 3D Marios, innovate in gameplay... things you KNEW how to do.... concentrate on that. Merge your 30 years of experience with new technologies and tastes. Thanks
Re: Preview: Rekindling Platforming Passion in Super Mario Maker
@MitchVogel #47 Agree with you. Since the announcement, I thought this should have been added to NSMBU in order to give that game a bit more "meat" and show to the market what the Gamepad could do.
Nowadays there are plenty of platforms with editors, LBP, N++, Sound Shapes (which is amazing, if you have one of the platform it has been released for and you love electronic music, you have no excuse not to try it!!). Despite what someone says, this is not the second discovery of fire.... maybe it is just for Nintendo....
Plus, by seeing how the fanbase goes crazy for this, having this tool builted in the console at launch would have sold WiiU like cupcakes, imho...
Re: Mario Memories: Super Mario Galaxy 2: A Tale of Hype and Expectation
THe Apex of Mario platforming, imho
Re: Video: Here's How Zombi Shapes Up Against The Original ZombiU
@BarryDunne yeah definitely the vita support is very needed ... If they do that, it will turn as the definitive edition to have
Re: Video: Here's How Zombi Shapes Up Against The Original ZombiU
One of the best game on wiiU and probably the best use of the gamepad.... For me is a must have on the console.
Re: Nintendo Download: 20th August (Europe)
Meh... just meh.... no interesting discounts on e-shop and nothing new or interesting on digital delivery on WiiU side....
If it wasn't for my evening session on Mario Kart with my girlfriend I would already sell this dust-collector....
Re: Nintendo Removes Ironfall Invasion From 3DS eShop Ahead Of Ironhax Exploit Release
Correct me if I am wrong but Nintendo system are the only ones that still use region lock, right?
Re: Exclusive: MercurySteam Has Been Working On A Metroid Prototype For Wii U And 3DS
@Mrclaycoat by reading the article, it sounds more like Nintendo just block the project, so I guess this game will come out under another name and probably on other platforms (PC Xbox, Ps4)
Re: Exclusive: MercurySteam Has Been Working On A Metroid Prototype For Wii U And 3DS
So essentially: Started as Metroid Game-> pitched by Nintendo -> recalibrated on a more generic space shooter....