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My biggest problem with the game so far is the mostly awful colors and very twitchy/awkward looking animations. It certainly seems like a faithful melee clone, but the look of the game is not going to impress onlookers.

I can't believe there isn't split-screen co-op. They're basically cornering consumers into convincing their friends to buy Switches and/or games.

@Azooooz What kind of ideas are you talking about exactly? If you're talking in terms of adding things to the meta of any particular game of course it's going to be hard to convince someone you have a good idea.

@Exy In terms of the competitive scene I'd say it's generally like any other community. Followers of the scene have favorite players, characters, and the kids probably troll tournament streams and videos spouting insults at anyone/anything they don't like. Of course each smash game is a lot different from it's successor/predecessor. A lot of the "prescriptivism" probably stems from that fact. Discussion about adding characters/items/modes for future games probably doesn't happen as much as it used to. I don't know how much/if you care for the game(s) or not so it's hard to tell if that has anything to do with what you've seen from the community.

@Azooooz Maybe you should learn a thing or two about the community and you'll stop being annoyed?

I hate this corporate speech so much.

@Aerona Why is that something to be mad about?

@Dang69 Probably not, but you're unfortunately convinced that a subscription would make the online more reliable.

@cfgk24 Developers don't have too much trouble providing servers for PC games and PSN was fine last generation. Sure the network was hacked and info was leaked, but that had nothing to do with the money they were making. The Subscription fee is just something that Microsoft introduced and through marketing convinced casual players that they were getting the best online multiplayer. Therefore, the online community on Xbox was/is typically more active and creates the perception of better service. There's no real proof that the extra revenue is providing something they couldn't before.

@cfgk24 You're passion and belief in the company is admirable, but my argument still stands. At this point I have not seen proof compelling enough that a subscription has a meaningful impact on the online service that couldn't have been provided without it. Until someone comes forward with meaningful statistics and reasoning to justify this business practice to consumers I'm not convinced.

@cfgk24 You see, I'm not at all convinced that subscriptions lead to higher quality service. The discounts might make up for it especially if you make enough purchases, but in the end, a feature that was provided at no extra cost is now locked behind a paywall. There's no indication, to my knowledge, that companies are burdened financially enough to ask for more money to provide "quality service."

It's not as bad as it could be, but the fact that paying a subscription to play games online is still awful.

This. This is good news.

Doesn't seem like fun tbh. I wouldn't mind trying a demo though.

You know, the dragons are one of the best kept secrets of the game so I don't think it's really fair to be making an article about them just yet.

Nice thumbnail spoiler.

While Nintendo has seemingly done a better job of cultivating some kind of interest in the Switch from most major publishers the majority of developers knew nothing about it for a long time. So most of those who were left in the dark are probably only considering producing content for it right now. On the other hand, I'd say Nintendo is lucky that even today that there are developers out there who consider having their game on a Nintendo console an honor.

Mario odyssey does have some visual flair that you get from unreal 4 so this sort of backs up my theory about that.

Oh god now even Nintendo is spewing the "easier to provide online features" garbage. Even if you're going to support it I hope most people know that it's not actually going to make it "easier" for them do to anything.

I have to agree with the FGC people I follow on twitter. Having ARMS take the spot of a more seasoned title would be kind of dumb. Assuming the game launches in April that would give it only a few months to build a community that takes the game seriously enough for sizeable competition. And that's assuming there would be a community that takes the game seriously enough to compete at EVO of all places. Of course if the game can deliver a competitive experience that's also entertaining to watch I'm all for it, but let's give it some time.

These are all highly praised games, but... they are still old news. I really wish we were getting Puyo Puyo Tetris and ARMS were launch titles to bolster the amount of fresh content at least a little bit.

@DanteSolablood When I first saw people playing like this I was baffled and maybe even a little angry because it hardly looks like they're playing smash bros. Of course I got over that and thoroughly enjoy it as well as mostly understand the complexities now. But it's hard for me to comprehend this as boring.

@CanisWolfred It's an extremely fun rogue-like shooter with room designs inspired by Zelda. Yeah it looks gross and sometimes even sounds super gross not to mention the questionable content subject. It's definitely a game that is satisfying as long as you're okay with or can get over the presentation and are looking for a mostly balanced challenge.

Redout and Binding of Isaac are also confirmed for launch.

Not going to support this BS.

Liam Robertson made a post on twitter claiming that the image is just fan art. Indicators include a (partially?) reversed image and incorrect name among other things.

@the-madprofessor It's fine to guess that, but we'll hopefully know for sure tomorrow.

It's finally happening!!!

I think that with the right games a console that is "unique and affordable" will always take off. As much as I love the Wii and how successful it was I never felt like I was treated the same as a PS3 or 360 owner. Sure the Wii had unique games, among them was a decent pool of excellent ones, but a lot of them were concepts that weren't fully realized either, even if it was that tiny flaw or two that kept them from being truly remarkable experiences. Perhaps it's selfish of me to expect more, but I think people who choose to play Nintendo hardware should have access to just as many games in their intended form as the competition and unfortunately that means it needs to have comparable hardware.

How will they do it? Well if rumors are anything to go by porting will be easier than ever before which lightens the need for particularly powerful hardware. When the console gets an install base it'll be up to devs to deliver quality games, but the easier it is to get the game on the system the better. Let's just hope the NX doesn't get shunned because it's not exactly the same as its older brothers, or even worse, gets loaded with "shovelware."

As previously mentioned I'm kinda glad for the delay because it will probably get an NX port now. However, it's one less game to look forward to next year which is always a bit disappointing, even if there will be plenty of highly anticipated games arriving early in the year. Also, hopefully this eases the work load for the team that is doing Vita port.

If Nintendo worked with the one man team who made Axiom Verge get the game on their system why couldn't they have done more Heart Machine? Hopefully the NX will get a version of the game, but it's sad that all the work they had done to try and port the game was basically for nothing at this point.

I might have been somewhat tempted to give this a go if it were out in America, but I really just want the creators of the Tetris Grandmaster series to make Grandmaster 4.

Well if the rumor that the 3DS will be supported for another two years is true I expect that there are plenty of big games for the system planned. I'm not really expecting anything that hasn't been announced already to be revealed in the direct, but the possibility is definitely there. At this point I would have liked Nintendo to be a bit more keen on moving on from the 3DS, though.

It's pretty, but I mean it's a whole 'nother New 3DS XL I don't need.

@ThanosReXXX Good on ya mate. Oh man it's so crazy that we're already back to more x86 based rumors again. Anyway, I do find it odd that if Nintendo is keen to announce its new console that all the recent Patents would seem more fitting for a handheld device. Of course, the two devices could share many features between each other. At the end of the day the NX rumor mill is a much wilder ride than the Wii U ever was and hopefully that's a good thing.

@ThanosReXXX Eurogamer is a very credible website, at least according to NL and the majority of the games journalism community, and while I'm sure they've been wrong before we're too close to the reveal of the NX for these latest rumors to be too far off. Liam is also certain that the NX will have a Tegra chip (either X1 or X2) which does NOT use x86 architecture. We'd been getting so many rumors confirming AND denying x86 and ARM architecture just for it to turn around a couple weeks ago which may point to something: such as different models or even a different system entirely.

As for Rogers, I suppose she is no different from us right now, but she has been right before and I don't believe she's been all that rude. if she composes herself correctly perhaps at some point she'll publish her own articles. But, perhaps I'm being too positive...

I'm also curious what you're idea of the NX is based on the holes in the rumors we've had? All in good fun, of course.

@ThanosReXXX While I haven't followed Rogers closely enough to see all of her E3 claims I'll definitely be looking into those more closely. It would seem her assertion that the NX would not be x86, at the very least, was correct based on the recent rumors which are the most credible to date. I am also quite sure that most of the rumors she posts have some sort of disclaimer. If Liam is anything to go by she likely has similar contacts in the industry though the argument that she rarely references them directly is an extremely fair point of criticism.

Now, I don't go day to day stressing over people who face the wrath of the internet, but I definitely think those who are prone to grieving investigative journalists should do their research and put things into perspective.

@ThanosReXXX I'm not sure why but the amount of animosity and hate Ms. Rogers and Liam Robertson get peeves me to no end.

You know something went wrong when Nintendo doesn't know how to sell their own product. On the surface, the gamepad's concept has extremely little appeal to most of today's gamers. Far too few games took advantage of gamepad + TV multiplayer. Support for two gamepads was never implemented which could have brought more compelling experiences though was probably impossible without drastically reduced visuals. Even if the Wii U managed to attract a more Wii or 3DS sized user base, it's horsepower would still have been reason enough for many highly acclaimed 3rd party games to skip the console. Ports of other games would obviously not look as good as their counterparts and likely be missing a lot of content. In the end many adopters, much like the Wii would be left unsatisfied unless you are indeed the kind of person to play only Nintendo games. Perhaps that is the greatest disservice consoles like the Wii and Wii U did to their players. There were many great games on the Wii U that I'm glad I got to play but I'm not satisfied. However, I am very interested in the kind of experiences the NX will be able to offer. Yet, it could end up in a place much like the Wii. Providing a lot of incredible experiences both traditional and new, but lacking many games and content that everyone else gets to play except for the players who chose to buy an NX.
TLDR: Wii U had great games, but Nintendo didn't know what they were doing. Hopefully the NX is awesome but strives to address the grievances I had with the Wii and Wii U.

While it does seem the X1 is a very capable GPU when paired with a proper CPU I don't think the NX will be up to the task of porting the rest of this generations' games and will certainly spell trouble in the mainstream 3rd party department. A scenario I don't want Nintendo's consoles to ever go through again. So, hopefully NX is running the new X2 chip which, also, hopefully is leagues ahead compared to its prestigious predecessor.

@Totaldude911 I'd believe it.

Haven't we heard this spiel many times this year by now?

This looks absolutely terrible. I hope you guys aren't starving for content enough to buy this.

It looks so cool and that's what makes me so much more disappointed.

Well as far as showing off one (technically two) game goes I'd say it went as well as it possibly could. The lack of new games will always make this particular E3 a bit sour, but thankfully Zelda exceeded my expectations (though seems to have divided others like every other entry). On the other hand a game this enticing doesn't make the wait for NX and everything else next year any easier.

Maybe my dreams of Red Steel 3 aren't quite dead yet.

I don't think the trailer was TERRIBLE but it doesn't do anything to appeal to the people who backed the game.

Activision Support responded to iConBoy, a youtuber who was prominent (and still is) in the wii community, and it seems they aren't sure what the problem is either. I'd say we'll know whether this was deliberate or just a technical problem rather soon.

Metroid, F-Zero, or Donkey Kong.

Why couldn't it have been the regular size? Why does it look so good? Why? Why? WHY!?

Where is Splatoon on the list of games!?!?!?