@Troll_Decimator Doesn't the same logic apply to Pokemon then? It doesn't matter if Nintendo EAD had a head start compared to Gamefreak, what matters is if it's good or not.
Story-wise Pokemon already falls short (barebones animations, and hardly any complex story). In terms of gameplay they're ridiculously easy (unless you do post-game online battles). And because of their graphical shortcomings (and lack of VA), they're not that immersive as other games. But that's just my opinion.
@Troll_Decimator True, but Mario 64 was a launch game, and Nintendo's first proper 3D game. And I'd argue it still looks good (N64 standards) in comparison to other big titles such as Ocarina of Time.
This is Gamefreaks fourth proper 3D entry (fifth if you want to count Legends, and more if you want to count the remakes/reboots), and it still looks like they're just discovering 3D games. Even on Switch it's their fourth set of games.
@RubyCarbuncle That's an excuse I hear people saying whenever a trailer doesn't look good. Surprise, the end result won't look too far off from this. SWSH didn't do a 180 on its reveal trailer, and neither did Legends.
Either way, if it does, then this is just a terrible trailer. The game needs to be pretty much finished in a couple of months before they enter playtesting, bug fixing and production. So it's not like they have a lot of time left to improve it.
@RubyCarbuncle The things they showed in the trailer don't look good. That's the point of a trailer, to give you a fair impression of what the game will be like. Looks worse than Legends, and worse than SWSH somehow.
@JakedaArbok Well, they can't help it if stores are already selling it. Plenty of times a store breaks street date. Who's fault is that? The customer, or the store? I'm betting on the latter. Yeah, maybe don't stream the game, but you don't have to watch it either. And if people spread that news and spoil others, they are the problem, not necessarily the one person streaming it. If nobody shares it, you wouldn't know any better.
@Fizza I have a PS5 since launch (yes I know I'm incredibly lucky), and I've only played 1 exclusive game, R&C (and Astro Bot), but in hindsight that isn't the main reason I own one. Going back to the PS4 feels very archaic. The DualSense and reduced load times are such a game changer. Games on PS4 are as slow as molasses in comparison. I bought it for exclusives, but I'm now more happy I got it for the QOL upgrade. And I was going to get one anyway, so there wasn't any point in waiting.
@JakedaArbok Even Miles Morales is just Spider-Man 2018 in a new coat of paint. Didn't think anything special of it TBH.
But agreed, there's hardly any original content in the top 10. It's just the same old stuff that was part of the top 10 a year ago. I mean, who TF is still buying GTA V? Same with Minecraft, everyone should own five copies at this point.
@NintendoWife LMAO, I made the same point yesterday. Ask anyone what they want for a sequel, and it's always more, bigger, larger. I guess people really prefer quantity over quality after all.
'Nintendo Kart' is such a boring idea. Because 90+% of the current Mario roster is going to be shelved in favour of other popular franchises. At least now there's a stark difference between MK and Smash. Nintendo Kart is just Smash but racing instead.
The Mario franchise itself has enough characters to fill a roster on its own, so there's no reason to change that.
Even looking at the roster of MK8, it's missing characters such as Birdo, Captain Toad, Nabbit, Prof. E. Gadd, etc. They've recently also introduced a bunch of new characters with Mario Odyssey, albeit a bunch of boring rabbit clones, but the point is that there's enough variety without the rest of Nintendo's franchises.
@westman98 And yet, when you ask people what they want in a sequel, it's always 'more'. Bigger world, more this, more that, without realising there's a trade-off between quality and quantity.
People have been trained to equate game length/map size with game quality.
@Kieroni Yeah, I agree, it isn't very rewarding. But you get something at least. And it also gives you additional fruits and seedlings, which also means more friendship points for your Pikmin when you send them to collect it. And it gives you a 10 to 30% bonus when growing seedlings. That's saving at least 3000 steps on a huge seedling.
But still. I can easily plant 1000+ flowers in a 10-15 minute walk. So even if I only did that once a week, I wouldn't be able to grow enough Pikmin to keep up with that number, let alone double it, like those stats show. I can only assume that the vast majority of people never plant flowers.
Whether you like it or not, it's an easy way to put your game in the spotlight with so many people watching and covering it. Even people that may not follow Nintendo news as closely. A Nintendo Direct is only going to reach the people interested in Nintendo gaming. Which doesn't have to be a bad thing, but these large events are great for coverage. TGA even moreso than E3 I'd argue, because even at E3 all companies do their own thing, so people mostly only watch the streams they're interested in.
The drift is so bad that my Switch is now just permanently hooked up to the TV. Handheld mode is impossible, and I refuse to buy new ones that will wear just as easily.
@imgrowinglegs @nessisonett God of War (2016) was awfully short, so short I don't even remember playing it. God of War (2018) was much better in that regard.
@NatiaAdamo @nessisonett BOTW is only like 13GB. Even KH3 fits on a card, they just don't want to put the effort and time into optimising the game's file size.
@RiasGremory No, you pay $60 on PlayStation (the same on Xbox I think?). That's only $10 more, but you get steep discounts, monthly free games that aren't 25+ years old. Additionally, there is also native voice chat, party systems, and much more.
@anoyonmus The Last of Us Part II had a large open map that looks similar in aesthetic. Because it was the largest and most open map, it was also one of the more memorable moments from the game.
I personally think it's just that there aren't too many games that are post-apocalyptic, yet also lush and green. NieR also comes to mind, but generally most of the post-apocalyptic games are all dreary, ugly and brown.
And it two things are only remotely alike, people will compare them.
@mariomaster96 To be fair, @RupeeClock has a point. Even the shots they showed were very reminiscent of Breath of the Wild. And they must have known that. The entire trailer basically said ''open world Pokemon'' or ''BOTW but Pokemon'' without saying it. If you don't want your audience to think it's something that it isn't, you can easily solve that by showing some gameplay for example. If it was only 5 seconds of selecting a mission and teleporting to that area, everyone would understand it's not open world, but more like a MH game.
It's the same problem with 3D Kirby, which may actually not be as free-roam as people initially thought. It kinda looks like there are going to be a bunch of invisible barriers. Not too different from Kirby 64. 3D open space, but limited movement.
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Re: Random: It's Been Five Years Since We've Heard Anything About Pikmin 4
@WoomyNNYes Wrong!
Re: Pokémon Unite Surpasses 70 Million Downloads On Switch And Mobile
Tencent is probably happy.
Re: Will The Zelda-Style 'Tunic' Come To Nintendo Switch? Let's Hope So
It was announced as a multiplatform game before MS got the exclusivity, so it'll come to other platforms eventually. My bet is 6 months from now.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet Announced, Releasing Worldwide On Switch In "Late 2022"
@Troll_Decimator Doesn't the same logic apply to Pokemon then? It doesn't matter if Nintendo EAD had a head start compared to Gamefreak, what matters is if it's good or not.
Story-wise Pokemon already falls short (barebones animations, and hardly any complex story). In terms of gameplay they're ridiculously easy (unless you do post-game online battles). And because of their graphical shortcomings (and lack of VA), they're not that immersive as other games. But that's just my opinion.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet Announced, Releasing Worldwide On Switch In "Late 2022"
@Troll_Decimator True, but Mario 64 was a launch game, and Nintendo's first proper 3D game. And I'd argue it still looks good (N64 standards) in comparison to other big titles such as Ocarina of Time.
This is Gamefreaks fourth proper 3D entry (fifth if you want to count Legends, and more if you want to count the remakes/reboots), and it still looks like they're just discovering 3D games. Even on Switch it's their fourth set of games.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet Announced, Releasing Worldwide On Switch In "Late 2022"
@Troll_Decimator Nintendo's own games look miles better than this, so it's not really an excuse. The Switch is capable of far more.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet Announced, Releasing Worldwide On Switch In "Late 2022"
@RubyCarbuncle That's an excuse I hear people saying whenever a trailer doesn't look good. Surprise, the end result won't look too far off from this. SWSH didn't do a 180 on its reveal trailer, and neither did Legends.
Either way, if it does, then this is just a terrible trailer. The game needs to be pretty much finished in a couple of months before they enter playtesting, bug fixing and production. So it's not like they have a lot of time left to improve it.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet Announced, Releasing Worldwide On Switch In "Late 2022"
@RubyCarbuncle The things they showed in the trailer don't look good. That's the point of a trailer, to give you a fair impression of what the game will be like. Looks worse than Legends, and worse than SWSH somehow.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet Announced, Releasing Worldwide In "Late 2022"
Looks like they're not even trying anymore. That looked worse than Sword and Shield.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Arceus Is Already Being Streamed Online, And It's Not Even Out Yet
@JakedaArbok Well, they can't help it if stores are already selling it. Plenty of times a store breaks street date. Who's fault is that? The customer, or the store? I'm betting on the latter. Yeah, maybe don't stream the game, but you don't have to watch it either. And if people spread that news and spoil others, they are the problem, not necessarily the one person streaming it. If nobody shares it, you wouldn't know any better.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Arceus For Switch Has Now Been Datamined
@TommyTendo The rest of them made me cry.
Re: Feature: Our Totally Infallible Predictions For Hisui Forms In Pokémon Legends: Arceus
@wanghosom Still got the types wrong though.
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Nintendo Switch File Size Revealed
@Joeynator3000 yer so smart
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Nintendo Switch File Size Revealed
@Joeynator3000 The latest trailer shows it's a lot more like 3D World.
Re: Video: We Tried To Convince A PS5 Fanboy To Get The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack
@Fizza I have a PS5 since launch (yes I know I'm incredibly lucky), and I've only played 1 exclusive game, R&C (and Astro Bot), but in hindsight that isn't the main reason I own one. Going back to the PS4 feels very archaic. The DualSense and reduced load times are such a game changer. Games on PS4 are as slow as molasses in comparison. I bought it for exclusives, but I'm now more happy I got it for the QOL upgrade. And I was going to get one anyway, so there wasn't any point in waiting.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Stays Top For A Second Consecutive Week
@JakedaArbok Very true, but none of the games on this list are free. So there are still people buying GTA V..! Absolute madness.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Stays Top For A Second Consecutive Week
@JakedaArbok Even Miles Morales is just Spider-Man 2018 in a new coat of paint. Didn't think anything special of it TBH.
But agreed, there's hardly any original content in the top 10. It's just the same old stuff that was part of the top 10 a year ago. I mean, who TF is still buying GTA V? Same with Minecraft, everyone should own five copies at this point.
Re: Random: Nintendo Kart Is Trending On Social Media, Following Claims Of Mario Kart 9 Being "In Active Development"
@NintendoWife LMAO, I made the same point yesterday. Ask anyone what they want for a sequel, and it's always more, bigger, larger. I guess people really prefer quantity over quality after all.
Re: Random: Nintendo Kart Is Trending On Social Media, Following Claims Of Mario Kart 9 Being "In Active Development"
'Nintendo Kart' is such a boring idea. Because 90+% of the current Mario roster is going to be shelved in favour of other popular franchises. At least now there's a stark difference between MK and Smash. Nintendo Kart is just Smash but racing instead.
The Mario franchise itself has enough characters to fill a roster on its own, so there's no reason to change that.
Even looking at the roster of MK8, it's missing characters such as Birdo, Captain Toad, Nabbit, Prof. E. Gadd, etc. They've recently also introduced a bunch of new characters with Mario Odyssey, albeit a bunch of boring rabbit clones, but the point is that there's enough variety without the rest of Nintendo's franchises.
Re: Dying Light 2 Will Take At Least 500 Hours To "Fully Complete"
@westman98 And yet, when you ask people what they want in a sequel, it's always 'more'. Bigger world, more this, more that, without realising there's a trade-off between quality and quantity.
People have been trained to equate game length/map size with game quality.
Re: Video: Pokémon Legends: Arceus Gets Three New Commercials
At least it's more creative than Sword and Shield. Just hoping it doesn't turn out to be a bland, lifeless grindfest.
Re: Analyst Predicts 2024 Release Date For Next-Gen Nintendo Switch Successor
The Nintendo Glitch.
Only plays broken games.
Plot twist? It finally has third party support.
Re: Pokémon GO Might Be Getting Google Ads, And Fans Aren't Happy
@Nin10doh Well... make it better then? LOL
Re: Pokémon GO Might Be Getting Google Ads, And Fans Aren't Happy
Meanwhile Pikmin Bloom is left to die alone with no major updates since launch.
Re: Konami Is Celebrating Castlevania's 35th With An NFT Auction
Gotta get the money somehow if you can't make good games anymore I guess...
Re: Reminder: Lego’s Sonic The Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone Set Is Now Available
@nessisonett Supposedly there's a LEGO Tallneck (from Horizon) coming in the first half of this year as well.
Re: Reminder: Lego’s Sonic The Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone Set Is Now Available
For all the people who sort their LEGO in ceramic bowls.
Re: Nintendo's eShop Experienced Outages Over Christmas (Again)
@Tourtus Probably not worth the effort, because they don't have servers for their games either, it's all P2P.
Re: Niantic Shares Staggering Stats For A Year In Pokémon GO And Pikmin Bloom
@Kieroni Yeah, I agree, it isn't very rewarding. But you get something at least. And it also gives you additional fruits and seedlings, which also means more friendship points for your Pikmin when you send them to collect it. And it gives you a 10 to 30% bonus when growing seedlings. That's saving at least 3000 steps on a huge seedling.
But still. I can easily plant 1000+ flowers in a 10-15 minute walk. So even if I only did that once a week, I wouldn't be able to grow enough Pikmin to keep up with that number, let alone double it, like those stats show. I can only assume that the vast majority of people never plant flowers.
Re: Niantic Shares Staggering Stats For A Year In Pokémon GO And Pikmin Bloom
@Kieroni I guess people don't understand how to plant flowers? I've grown 307 Pikmin, but I've planted 179,414 flowers.
Re: Rare Founder's New Project Isn't What You Might Expect
Seems like Gruntilda is unlocked as a playable character from the start. Awesome!
Re: Random: These Bot-Generated Pokémon Might Be Better Than The Real Thing
People can't enjoy anything these days. The fact that this is all AI created is just impressive.
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo's Game Awards No-Show Proves It Simply Doesn't Need Anyone Else
Whether you like it or not, it's an easy way to put your game in the spotlight with so many people watching and covering it. Even people that may not follow Nintendo news as closely. A Nintendo Direct is only going to reach the people interested in Nintendo gaming. Which doesn't have to be a bad thing, but these large events are great for coverage. TGA even moreso than E3 I'd argue, because even at E3 all companies do their own thing, so people mostly only watch the streams they're interested in.
Re: Peter Molyneux's Next Game, Legacy, Is A "Blockchain Business Sim"
Kinda sounds like my game, not gonna lie.
Re: Gallery: Here Are Six New Screenshots Of Sonic Frontiers, Coming To Nintendo Switch Holiday 2022
@NintonicGamer BOTW told the devs you can have an empty open world and still sell millions.
Re: Video: The Lord Of The Rings: Gollum Game Gets A Brand New Cinematic Trailer
@SwitchVogel Which doesn't have to be a bad thing, this is just a very bad execution.
Re: Japanese Charts: Pokémon Diamond And Pearl Remakes Stay Top, Big Brain Academy Lands In Top Three
@Anti-Matter You need help
Re: A Familiar Foe Is Punished Again By Metroid Dread Sequence Breakers
Love the little details like this. I got the bomb before Kraid, but I can't even fathom getting the phase shift before Kraid. Sounds like a challenge.
Re: Doug Bowser Comments On The Battle Against Joy-Con Drift, Says Nintendo Are Making "Continuous Improvements"
The drift is so bad that my Switch is now just permanently hooked up to the TV. Handheld mode is impossible, and I refuse to buy new ones that will wear just as easily.
Re: Review: Pikmin Bloom - Pokémon GO's Sister Title Is A Glorious, Glorified Pedometer
@BlueOcean The app can run in the background, so you can just check your progress once or twice a day.
Re: First Look: 'Pikmin Bloom', Niantic's Walktastic Follow Up To Pokémon GO, Soft-Launches Today
Pokémon GO changed a lot between release and now, so I wonder how this game will look a year from now.
Re: Random: It Has Now Been 1,000 Days Since Metroid Prime 4's Development Was Restarted
@NEStalgia FYI, it has been 2,219 days since Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 was close to completion; six years, one month, and exactly one week.
Re: Talking Point: How Many Hours Is A 'Short' Game For You?
@imgrowinglegs @nessisonett God of War (2016) was awfully short, so short I don't even remember playing it. God of War (2018) was much better in that regard.
Re: Watch: The Pokémon Company Drops Mysterious Legends: Arceus Video
@Ralizah That one already exists. I think you meant Arcanine.
Re: Wish Kingdom Hearts Was Native On Switch? A True Port Is Still "Undecided"
@NatiaAdamo @nessisonett BOTW is only like 13GB. Even KH3 fits on a card, they just don't want to put the effort and time into optimising the game's file size.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Release Date And Pricing Revealed
@RiasGremory No, you pay $60 on PlayStation (the same on Xbox I think?). That's only $10 more, but you get steep discounts, monthly free games that aren't 25+ years old. Additionally, there is also native voice chat, party systems, and much more.
Nintendo can't even get the Smash netcode right.
Re: Here's Your First Look At The Switch Box Art For Kirby And The Forgotten Land
@anoyonmus The Last of Us Part II had a large open map that looks similar in aesthetic. Because it was the largest and most open map, it was also one of the more memorable moments from the game.
I personally think it's just that there aren't too many games that are post-apocalyptic, yet also lush and green. NieR also comes to mind, but generally most of the post-apocalyptic games are all dreary, ugly and brown.
And it two things are only remotely alike, people will compare them.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Arceus Won't Actually Be An Open-World Game
@mariomaster96 To be fair, @RupeeClock has a point. Even the shots they showed were very reminiscent of Breath of the Wild. And they must have known that. The entire trailer basically said ''open world Pokemon'' or ''BOTW but Pokemon'' without saying it. If you don't want your audience to think it's something that it isn't, you can easily solve that by showing some gameplay for example. If it was only 5 seconds of selecting a mission and teleporting to that area, everyone would understand it's not open world, but more like a MH game.
It's the same problem with 3D Kirby, which may actually not be as free-roam as people initially thought. It kinda looks like there are going to be a bunch of invisible barriers. Not too different from Kirby 64. 3D open space, but limited movement.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Arceus Won't Actually Be An Open-World Game
If it isn't a seamless open world, why is it so empty, lol?
Re: Poll: Official Hardware Teardown Videos Are Becoming Increasingly Common, Should Nintendo Also Be Doing It?
@WoomyNNYes Why sell new batteries when they can sell you another console?