
With all of the rumours regarding the infamous 'Switch Pro' and the eventual release of the Switch OLED model last year, we've hardly had a chance to think about Nintendo's true next generation of hardware. For the past year or two, the Switch has been described on more than one occasion as being in the "middle" of its lifecycle, suggesting there are plenty more years for it to thrive.
But, should history repeat itself once more, something new will eventually take over the reins. Decades since this hobby of ours took off, we're still yet to see a system live on without a successor replacing it after a handful of years – so what does Nintendo's future look like, and when can we expect a new system to take Switch's place?
Well, according to Ampere Analysis' Piers Harding-Rolls, a new, next-gen Nintendo console could be headed our way in "late 2024". Speaking to GamesIndustry.biz, Harding-Rolls says that he doesn't expect a 'Switch Pro' to arrive this year, or possibly ever, and that Switch sales will start to see a slight decline this year.
"I'm currently expecting the console market year-on-year performance to be quite flat in 2022 as Switch sales decline and we come off what has been an amazing couple of years for console gaming. Even so, Nintendo Switch family of devices will once again be the best-selling consoles in 2022 at around 21 million sold to consumers, aided by the release of Switch OLED.
I'm not expecting a Switch Pro in 2022. We have a next-gen Nintendo console in our forecasts for late 2024, so I'm not convinced a 'Pro' model is going to appear at all."
Nintendo's often quoted as saying that it's "always" working on new hardware, so we've no doubt that the company's brightest minds are busy coming up with new technologies and new ways to play. But does that 2024 release window for a new system feel right? We'll leave you to mull that one over in the comments.
In the same analyst predictions round-up, it was claimed that a brand new Mario Kart game is "in active development" and could be shown off this year.
Whatever happens, 2022 could be pretty special.
[source gamesindustry.biz]
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Nintendo, please do the following:
I'm expecting a Switch 2 in 2022 and I'm an analysis also.
Here we go again.
This all depends on the chip shortage by the way
Bye bye eShop! Get ready to buy all your games again, folks!
I feel like this is more the earliest a new console can be released rather than when it will be. I mean definitely not this year and next year seems a little soon considering how well the Switch still sells.
I can live with 2024. Seems like a big gap between consoles.
Next-Gen Nintendo Switch, huh? That's a really fancy way to say "another 'Nintendo Switch OLED' style revision".
No. No. No. We are not doing this all over again for ANOTHER year
@kingbk hmm:
1. Could only happen if they keep using same size cartridges, otherwise nope
2. It's Nintendo, even if something is good they can do a 360 for no reason, they will do something else and we should pray it doesn't fail like the Wii U, it can go both ways that's for sure.
3. Nope, I rather expect a talking unicorn ring my doorbell with free food and a winning lottery ticket, than Nintendo going that route.
4. Nah that's is even more impossible than option 3 is.
I would say time will tell, as long it is a handheld I am in for a ride then.
@moodycat At least this time 2024 sound more realistic than "this year"
@Purgatorium PS4 came out 8 years after the PS3, PS5 came 7 years after the PS4.
In 2024 the Switch is 7 years, so it sounds like a realistic but not too early of a date.
This sounds about right to me...the big question is...will there be a new Mario Kart game before then?!?!?
Stop it. They don't know anything. This is just f'ing inane. Enjoy the Switch.
@MarioBrickLayer THAT is a good question, I want a new one already Nintendo
@GrailUK The only one that knows it for sure is Nintendo themself, but they are not going to spill the beans yet.
Also: what a name: "Piers Harding-Rolls." Sounds like a brand of pastry developed not to spoil during long sea voyages. The Pier's Harding Roll: tough as a brick, tastes awful but will keep you going as you search the north Atlantic for that elusive white whale.
No way will I get through my current Switch backlog by 2024 so I really hope we get something back-compatible. If we ever get the mythical Switch Pro I would buy it immediately, but if we get a non-back-compatible next gen as early as 2024 I might have to hold off for my own sanity.
same 2024 at the earliest for next gen
The date depends on Nintendo's plans and a lot of environmental factors as usual, but at least this sounds more believable now - even if as the result of the "analysis" swinging all the way over to Captain Obvious mode (including "a slight decline in sales this year" after the component shortages led Furukawa to publicly estimate as much).😏 Still, as someone who idly imagined Nintendo to usher in Gen 10 in 2023/2024 myself, who am I to bark at this tree anyway? [Reluctantly] acknowledging the mythical nature of Switch Pro alone deserves at least a bit of credit.😄
A more powerful console is essential. It would do Metroid Prime 4 justice: the original was technically state-of-the-art. Today it wouldn't be at all.
@kingbk That is pretty much exactly what I want, I don't think they should change things up, just make the system better and iterate on it.
agree completely. Current switch success means Nintendo do not need to rush into their next console. I hope it is a 2023 or 2024 release and a POWERFUL console, please!
Makes more sense considering how long Switch has been in the market. More logical than an idiotic "SWITCH PRO 4K UHD XS" version.
Then again, since when analysts have been right? But wouldn't be a proper start of the year without crazy Nintendo rumors.
It's noteworthy that, should the Switch generation last >7 years, that timespan is more in line with previous Nintendo handhelds than home consoles.
really hoping they make it reasonably powerful. games like pokemon dont need it, but sometimes you just wanna play something else and dont want to buy an xbox or playstation for just one game, lol
Common sense would suggest 2024.
The bigger question is what software will Nintendo line up to launch with it? Seems to me we are staring down the barrel of old games playing/looking better on the new hardware - and then a long wait for a new Zelda or Mario.
They should make it more powerful, because they have alot of AAA ports that needs a better performance.
Nintendo have been working on 3D games for decades. The 3DS was the tip of the iceberg. As the writer of a whopping 128 games on Switch, my analysis of the situation is that projected holograms will be part of the next Nintendo console, codenamed Folio.
I can't imagine Nintendo hindering new hardware sales by declaring what would be well more than 100 million Switches obsolete. It would be a colossal business error. Even without the same storage technology, they could work out some kind of transfer, as they did with the different 3DS models or even with Wii and Wii U. I'm not a worrier by nature, and so I won't worry about this unless it becomes an issue. No need to start trolling or sky-is-falling or NintenDOOMED about it.
I don’t know where this expectation for a ‘pro’ model ever came from. Is it just cause Sony did it? You just have to look at the ‘new’ 3ds to realize pro models don’t make sense for Nintendo hardware.
So it will have a lifespan of 7 years which is the average for a console nowadays?
My god, these analysts are so intelligent with their predictions!
...that sounds about right, actually.
I don't understand why people just instantly dunking on this prediction. It does make sense. We are in a time where it is increasingly difficult for big major publishers to squeeze their major games onto the Switch.
Nintendo doesn't need to release a 4K powerhouse per se, but they do need to have a hardware model that makes publishers want to fit their games onto the Switch.
We're currently approaching year 5 of the Switch, and history dictates that this is around the time Nintendo starts ramping up development of the next system.
I predict a Switch2 to release this year.
I predict quite a few people here wish they could earn a living making reactive guesses about things so far in the future that no one will care or remember or hold you accountable when you're wrong. What a gig.
@Purgatorium The Piers Harding-Roll: next level from the Rick Roll
@SuperToe To be fair, they are gauging the market off of past data, and forecasting based off of educated guesses. It's not as knee-jerk as one would think.
My question is will the next gen Nintendo console have the virtual console?
Nintendo themselves stated in 2020 that the Switch was "Halfway through it's life", so that's not exactly a bold claim to make.
"Slight decline" LOL are they insane? With Hot Games like Pokémon, Breath of the Wild 2, Metroid Prime 4, Kirby, Bayonetta 3, etc. Coming out, the Sales are only going to get Stronger!
Keep the switch format just more powerful so we can get better third party games at say PS4 level of graphics and make it backwards compatibility.
My real prediction below:
Backwards compatibility won’t happen as they will want to charge and remaster switch games to the new generation switch.
As powerful as PS4 I doubt it, it takes them ages to make in house AAA games let alone making a graphical master piece like Horizon Zero Dawn or Last of us 2, to much detail, textures and environmental beautiful details.
@BloodNinja Nintendo Eshop is here to Stay, just like the PlayStation store and Xbox Marketplace. Nintendo just wanted to kill virtual console since hackers destroyed it with homebrew.
@SnesSwitch I can't wait until Nintendo Switch Outsells the overrated ps4.
2024 is too late to launch the Switch sucessor, we should expect the Switch sucessor in 2023.
@BloodNinja That’s why I said reactive. They’re simply reacting to previous patterns that anyone can Google. None of these analysts have a crystal ball. Most of their predictions tend to be fairly safe and obvious.
@GrailUK I'm Enjoying my Nintendo Switch OLED
@Giancarlothomaz too early! Nintendo Switch is STILL SELLING Like Hotcakes!
@Blakeava1821 overrated is right. Only reason it did so well was because Nintendo and MS handed Sony that w.
@IronMan30 I agree. Wiiu and and xbone wasn't marketed well at all unfortunately
Judging by the 2022 game lineup, 2024 feels too late unless Nintendo's going to just scrap backwards compatibility and just re-release the Switch's lineup on its successor. Like if BotW 2 stays on track for 2022 then the next new Zelda would release around 2027/2028 so there'd be a whole 3-4 years of the Switch's successor without a new Zelda if the system launched in 2024.
Big shock. The Switch just sold 20 million copies in back to back years and still has BotW 2 and Metroid Prime 4 coming in it's lifespan. Nintendo has no reason to drop a new system for awhile.
2024 seems about right to me. The OLED just got released, so Nintendo is gonna ride that for quite awhile.
Here's the biggest reason the anaylist don't have a clue.
"I'm currently expecting the console market year-on-year performance to be quite flat in 2022 as Switch sales decline and we come off what has been an amazing couple of years for console gaming.
This is just amazing coming a industry whom can't predict much of anything else.
Nintendolife rides every article about rumors like a cowboy glued to a bull. Can't wait for the next 'what do you think' article about the Switch Pro announcement.
@Pojos98 No, it came from Nintendo having mid gen upgrades themselves with models such as the DSi and New 3DS. Everyone was expecting the Switch to do something similar but we don't have such an upgrade yet (and we may never get one at this point).
Aslong as it keeps the hybrid design I will be happy
If Nintendo try and go home console only they would be foolish. In fact mad. Keep the Switch model and just upgrade it. To do otherwise would be alienate a lot of gamers.
In before people see a prediction as 100% fact, when it’s only that, a prediction. It doesn’t even take into account the shortages most likely.
I’m expecting a revised Switch Lite this year with a larger OLED screen with a new Switch next year. I just hope they don’t call it Switch-U.
Even if it was 2024 or 2025 the idea that even Nintendo would just make over 100 million gamers have an obsolete console is surely madness. We have had updated versions of games from DS days, Wii, and Wii u but there has to become a point when we see better backward compatibility. That said Nintendo know that fans will buy their systems to play Nintendo games and they have never been overly consumer friendly. As long as they make profit they don’t care too much. I know that sounds harsh but look at their history. Let’s hope they keep Switch along the DS lines.
@Mario-is-a-Pratt The Switch Lite I think will be discontinued. It’s not done that well and the OLED will overtake it in sales soon. Sticking to the hybrid model has to be Nintendo’s future now.w
100% backwards compatibility is a must. I have more than 100 Switch game already.
I think a next-gen Nintendo console with 4K output and 1080p screen would be great. Even with shortages on parts that can process up to 1080p or up to 4K, 4K Nintendo games would look sick on my 4KTV.
I don't expect a Switch Pro, but they'd have to create something that can still play Switch games and also add something new that sets it apart from the Switch.
They have no reason to not release a updated Switch with more GPU. Why, people think Nintendo won't do this is living a delusional world. Gamers alike will still buy and trade Switches-that isn't going to stop Day One. Sales haven't slowed down or stop that should tell you the so-called analysts are just blowing hot air out of the butte. If they knew so well they should stop making predictions for industry that don't work for them.
@BOOEY What I would expect is a slightly improved Switch with 4K dock. That’s all they need to do really. I just don’t see what gimmick they can add this time around and it’s all most really want.
@moodycat may I suggest playing a game?
2024 sounds about right to me. I think it would have been 2023 if not for covid and the chip shortages.
Yeah 2024 sounds about right. They’ve said from the jump they expect the Switch gen to last 7-10 years…they were quite clear in their intent to stretching out the standard 5-6 yrs gen turnover. I could see a new Switch announcement late 2023, with an initial reveal in 2024! So E3 2024 should be exciting lol
@Snaplocket Predictions are literally just educated guesses. They aren't fact. I think Nintendo might release their new console sooner then late 2024 because the Switch is already struggling with most recent games.
They just lap up analysts whom haven't had a good track record - couldn't even predict we have a Switch in 2017. Why should one believe them now. Switch is already when handheld showing how bad the graphics are at some games SMTV is one of them when on portable you loose graphics. So it's not just for the DOCK option but current games you loose graphics on Portable mode. So it's not it needs one it needs a update Switch to improve graphics on Portable playing.
I reckon the Switch successor (whatever they choose to call it) will be shown off at E3 2022 and released in March 2023. But current Switch support will continue until 2024.
I worried that they will give up the hybrid design and go back to a regular machine design. I think this would be one of their worst decisions ever !
Gosh, I sure hope not. I was chatting about this with a friend last night, coincidentally. Nintendo is riding the biggest wave they've ridden in possibly decades. I could see Nintendo releasing a console that is more apt to run current-gen games, but ditching the Switch altogether would be, frankly, idiotic, even in two or three years from now. There are countless people where the Switch is their very first console, much like how the Wii was many people's very first. Seeing as how the WiiU was a commercial flop, Nintendo would best not screw this up.
The Nintendo Glitch.
Only plays broken games.
Plot twist? It finally has third party support.
@SuperToe Well, if anyone can google it, why isn't everyone an analyst by profession, then? There must be something more to it, mate
@Blakeava1821 Nintendo has taken down all their old eShops (I think Wii U is still up, for the time being) and it's not for some noble cause against hackers...it's to save on cost. Nothing more. So, get ready for the current eShop to get taken down when they no longer wish to maintain the servers, and to force you to buy all your games again on their newer, shinier system.
Having switched (get it?) to the OLED model, I'm going to be very disappointed if the inevitable Switch Pro/2 goes back to LCD...
Looking at the original gamesindustry.biz article, it seems like this guys predictions for 2021 were right for any generally trending technology, but not right for anything regarding specific companies or products/services . So based on past performance I'd say the forecast of a next-gen console in late 2024 is also likely to not be right.
if we get a Nintendo Switch Pro, or a next-gen Nintendo Switch, i would like a dedicated variant of the console with possible backwards compatibility with games from older consoles.
i have several Nintendo gaming consoles, it would be nice to have one that is cross-compatible with current generation games and past generation games.
and yes, i know it may be too much to ask since Nintendo may never do so unless for some odd reason they decide to partner up with Microsoft. eventually we will see more than just Banjo-Kazooie on Nintendo systems once again. (poor Rareware, it just had to be eaten by a giant in which wants it all.)
Wow, it doesn't feel like it but it's been about 5 years since the Switch was released. With only 6 years between the Wii and Wii U as well as between the 3DS and Switch it's about time to seriously start considering the successor.
2024 certainly isn't off the table. The New 3DS released in late 2014 and the Switch just over two years later. The OLED model came out last year so they could do something similar.
@Grumblevolcano simply just release Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 on Switch sucessor, no one is gonna be hurt.
@kingbk The problem is, you can't "continue the Switch aspect" AND "prevent the only on Xbox or Playstation phenomenon". You can only have one or the other. There is no way a system that needs to be fully functional in a portable mode is going to compete in graphics or processing power with the behemoth PS5 or Series X. As long as that disparity exists between Nintendo's console and their competitors, developers will be forced into choosing to make a product designed for two platforms fairly comparable in terms of capability, or for a single platform that is less capable. We've seen this conundrum in some fashion since all the way back to the N64, although power and graphics capability have only been the issue since around the Wii era. Personally, I would rather have them make a cutting edge system capable of rivaling Sony or Microsoft offerings and rely on the strength of their IP to set them apart. But since the last system that was close to this, the GameCube was considered a disappointment, with 22 million systems sold, they will likely never take this approach again. (Although that had more to do with proprietary discs and no built in DVD player than anything else.) I agree about a more robust online system though. We need a persistent eco system akin to PS Plus or Xbox Live, and please finally introduce a trophy system!
@Grail_Quest Thanks for the response. I'm not expecting a 1 for 1 match with the specs of the PS5 or the XBox, but something close to a PS4 in specs. We've seen that the Switch can indeed run some pretty high end AAA games like DOOM and Witcher 3, so update the specs a little to cut down on frame rate issues and improve graphical processing could help get more games coming over on a regular basis.
The analyst analysed the generation duration of prior consoles and calculated the end of the current one.
He can do basic math, we should all hail him for being a genius /s
Seriously, who even pays that person for something so blatantly obvious
@nhSnork Switch is not a gen 9 console, Switch is Nintendo second gen 8 console
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch
i hope Switch sucessor keep and improve the hybrid formula of Switch, i will be extremely disapoited if Switch sucessor ditch the Switch hybrid formula.
@Rayquaza2510 Technically cartridge size would be irrelevant if the console was digital only, that said I hope physical media will continue being an option as long as possible.
@Giancarlothomaz yeah, right, that's why it's full of ports from the FIRST Nintendo gen 8 console.😆 I could point out the conspicuous lack of references on the bit, but why bother? Most fans remember the open editorship nature of Wikipedia and thus only mention the site when it aligns with their fanons - while, say, the same Wikipedia sensibly listing Game Boy Color as a gen 5 console is smoothly ignored.😏
By this logic, is Nintendo DS a Gen 6 because Nintendo once cautiously painted it as the "third pillar" to their Gen 6 consoles? Wait, something tells me I'm gonna regret asking this...😅
If that's true then that's when BotW 2 gets released.
I disagree, I think we will get a Switch pro..
@TowaHerschel7 I agree, a more advanced Switch could well be digital only, which would make a lot of sense. After all not every game wants or is made to play in handheld. A game like BotW2 in ultra HD would be designed to play on a big 4k screen. That said a cut down version would still get a physical release.
I think the Switch successor will be announced a while after Switch sales number starts to drop drastically.
When that happens I don't know, but probably not before 2023 as it seems PS5 and Xbox Series X will be supply strained until then.
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wait wasnt it predicted for the past 3 years new mario kart game when they are still selling so many of the old one . he realises this is nintendo
@IronMan30
How was it overrated? The hardware design was sound and solid, it had a great library of games, Sony finally brought the Dualshock into the modern era with it, online functionality was far superior to the PS3, and developers loved it. It fixed all of the problems Sony dug itself into with the PS3 architecture.
I mean just the exclusive game library (through most of its life; Sony is releasing many of its greats on PC now) made it a great console. Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, God of War 2018 (which I’ll admit I wasn’t a huge fan of but the game is beloved by the PlayStation community as a whole), Last of Us Part II, Ghost of Tsushima (currently playing the PS5 version; it’s an amazing game), Bloodborne, the best console to play online multiplayer games on thanks to its large community, Street Fighter V, and the list goes on and on.
It’s no PS2, but it’s a fantastic system. I bought mine in 2014 and it served me faithfully until I traded it in in 2020 for the PS5.
Switch is already based off of 7-8 year old technology. I can't see them pushing this out to 2024. Not unless 3rd parties start to develop exclusive titles for Switch's 9 year old hardware.
@kingbk let it run 3DS games too! Handheld and TV screens
@Blakeava1821
The PS4 was superior to the Xbox One in almost every way for most of their lifecycles.
The Xbox One is a good system, but it went years without any exclusives to call its own. Sony and Nintendo both spanked Microsoft in the exclusive department over the entire generation, despite the Wii U’s poor performance. It had worse running versions of multi-platform games until the One X showed.
The One didn’t really justify its existence until Microsoft patched in great backwards compatibility and then launched Gamepass. Before those two things, it was an easy choice between Xbox One and PS4. On PS4 you got a bunch of exclusives and all the multiplatform games, with many of them having better performance than on XBONE. There was literally no reason to buy one before Gamepass hit the scene.
By comparison, I consider the Series X and Series S to be Microsoft’s PS4. They learned from the mistakes they made with the XBONE. They have exclusives now, Gamepass is a revolutionary service and is evolving nicely, and they have great hardware that in the case of the Series X surpasses the PS5 in most metrics.
I agree the Pro idea is dead in the water now but I can’t see it being late 2024. I’d expect it in late 2023 or early 2024.
@TheRedComet agree anyone that says gamepass is rubbish hasnt tried. it played plenty of games that i would never have played. kids played games on it as well.not inc day onefirst party games
@Blakeava1821 maybe, but one day Switch sales will decline.
@Anguspuss
I haven’t had an Xbox since 360, but my best friend has a One and has Gamepass. It’s a great service. Getting big 1st party exclusives on Day One is crazy. And more importantly, like you said, it really helps with game discovery. You end up being more willing to try games you aren’t sure about because it’s just part of your subscription. You’re not worried about getting burned by dropping 60-70 bucks on a game.
I’m primarily a PlayStation fan. I have a PS5 and a Switch. But I really want to pickup a Series S this year. It will be my secondary console in my bedroom I’ll use solely for Gamepass. The PS5 will be for PS exclusives and multiplayer centric titles, the Switch my hybrid handheld I play all of the classic collections I have plus Nintendo’s stellar exclusives.
First time I’ve had a desire to own all three systems in a long time. Last time I did that was the PS2, Xbox, and GameCube era.
Read the headline as "Analyst throws dart at their rumour board to see which one they'll wheel out this week."
Would make sense to have Zelda botw 2 as a launch title in late 23/early 24. One thing is for sure, day 1 insta buy.
I'm going with September - November 2023.
2024 would be uncharacteristically long for Nintendo.
Also if it isn't backwards compatible with the Switch, I'll be moving on from Nintendo consoles, making the Switch my last console from the Big N.
@BloodNinja Yup. For example, I assume the fine print on Arcade Archive games is that they won’t transfer to the next console.
@Tandy255 Yep, same here
@Giancarlothomaz This, it's basically like the GB and GBC generation, correct? Both were part of the same console generation iirc? 🤔
@TowaHerschel7 exactly like that.
So, basically what anyone would realistically think. Nintendo is going for a full console life cycle with it, so this is realistic.
Doesn't matter when they release it to me. I'll enjoy the Switch until the next Nintendo console comes out.
Yeap 2024 make sense, after all Switch is still selling like hotcakes now and getting next gen chipsets are very difficult at the moment. Still a Super Mario Odyssey 2 and new Donkey Kong game needs to happen soon.
Wow that's some cosmic prescience, there, Mr. Analyst. Nobody on the internet would ever have guessed that date!
Let's do a poll. When Nintendo announces switch 2, what percentage of NL will be surprised and upset that it's roughly the power of a base PS4, and what percentage will dig in and defend that as "not much weaker than a Series S" and complain about lazy devs not supporting switch 2 with AAA games day and date?
I would prefer a new console rather than a slight upgrade. I just hope it is compatible with last generation games like ps5 and xbox.
The real question is, will the switch get folders before 2024?
Switch 2/Switch Pro, same same. I don't know why people are so obsessed with the distinction because the end result is likely the same. Higher spec in a similar architecture, heavy BC, titles still releasing and compatible with OG Switch.
And 2024? I mean damn. What a bold prediction ey? You mean to say that Nintendo will not continue to use the more or less same SoC for more than 7 years? That the Switch won't start approaching OG Gameboy levels of no significant internal hardware revisions? Huge if true /s
I honestly think Switch 2 would have already been announced - probably with a 2023 release date - had there not been any chip shortages.
Hopefully the extra time means that Nintendo can add better specs without inflating the console price too, too much...but then again, this is Nintendo we're talking about.
There wont be a Switch Pro, but there will probably be a Switch 2 (maybe with a different name of course), and I imagine in addition to also be a hybrid system, it will also be backward compatible with OG Switch games. So for those waiting for a Pro version of the Switch, it seems likely that the next system will double as that.
While on the thought, I get this feeling that Nintendo will capitalize on their large Switch install base with the next system. With what will be over 100 million Switch owners, Nintendo could try and make 2 screen gaming a thing again (but they'd be smart to always make it an optional feature). Any owner of a Switch 2 and Switch 1 in theory could play the Switch 2 docked on the TV, while using their original Switch in portable mode as a controller with a large screen by having the 2 systems able to link up to each other. Then released games could receive patches for new optional controls (say bringing quick inventory management to BOTW without having to pause, and being able to browse the map and fast travel, again without pausing, or bringing back the minigames for Splatoon 3 to play on the portable screen while you wait for a match to end, etc. etc.), and new games could have options you can enable if you have 2 Switch devices.
I thought we only just passed the half way point of the Switch's lifespan according to Nintendo themselves? So 2027 for the next console LOL
I suppose it's possible they'll start preparing the successor by then but actually releasing I doubt it. Switch easily could go on another 4 or 5 years. As for the switch pro you guys love talking about it never existed so get over it.
Honestly I couldn't care less about next gen. I still can't even find a PS5 in stores and that thing is already like a year old ain't it? So what if a new switch comes out or whatever it's called. Nobody is going to be able to buy the damn thing.
Right! So what they're saying is we've got about 2 years for a Ring Fit sequel to appear, got it
@NintendoWife but the switch replaced Nintendo handhelds, so it would make sense (even if it's artificially extended even more due to component shortage).
I think it will be 2025 at earliest, personally, even if it's earlier in the year.
@Truegamer79 exactly.
Analysts were never smart. They are only able to predict the obvious.
@Judgedean There won't be any Switch 2 in 2022 this close after OLED version.
@BloodNinja Yeah. Kinda like Sony. Spider Man Miles Morales is a 70$ DLC, and they even had the balls to charge money from PS4 users to play this overpriced DLC on PS5.
Microsoft never charges for any upgrade. On top of it, you don't even need to pay for PC versions at all.
Meanwhile PS4 owners need to pay for same games again on PC.
Sony and Nintendo don't care about users at all.
I doubt any Switch game will work on next Nintendo console, because there is no money in it for Nintendo.
To be fair, Sony cared about PS3 and Nintendo cared about Wii U.
Wii U is the only time Nintendo ever cared about users for many reasons.
On top of it, Nintendo didn't charge 60 bucks for 30 buck games on Wii U.
@Ventilator Sad but true!
I actually agree with this as a prediction. I also think there won't be a "Switch Pro" (terrible name if they ever called it that), the next console will be the next gen console. Hopefully like GBA was to the GBC
I think one of the biggest reasons for Wii U’s failure is because Nintendo rode the Wii too long. By the time Wii U hit the market, it was too late. Its power was in line with 360/PS3, with years old ports, and only 1 year away from PS4. Why would a PS3 or 360 owner have interest in that?
By 2024, hybrid consoles and ipad/mobile gaming will be even further along and we will likely be already talking about a PS5 Pro, with s PS6 not far away from that.
@TheRedComet i want ps5 but cant bloody get hold of one here
Late 2024 launch seems a bit too late for me but it makes more sense than a 2022 launch (i.e. in ~10 months) that some here assumed would happen.
It’ll depend how fast Switch sales slow down. If it has another big year in 2022, then late 2024 seems obvious. But if sales drop steeply, then I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s early 2024.
@kingbk The problem with ports going forward is once crossgen games stop games will be made with the PS5 and Series SSD's in mind making ports difficult.
@kingbk
Unfortunately if you want games on PlayStation and Xbox you’ll have to buy one of those systems. By definition the Switch, or any successor that follows the same format, will be much less powerful than PS5/XSX.
Best Nintendo will be able to do is a Switch-type system that can easily run PS4 ports.
I had a cool dream where Nintendo's latest console looked like a pyramid and there were two projectors, one of the left side and one on the right side (3D view) and you therefore did not need a TV. A disc reader was built into it.
@theGamerPad By 2024, hybrid consoles and ipad/mobile gaming will be even further along and we will likely be already talking about a PS5 Pro, with s PS6 not far away from that.
This is the problem people don't realize M$ and $ony are going to do this it's a matter of time chip shortage or not. Have a Switch out this year will clamp down on M$ XboxIV and $ony PS6 sales and keep the ball rolling. The longer Nintendo waits the farther back they fall. OLED only goes so far but it's still using v2 chipsets and GPU and those have to update if they want to keep gamers on their platform. This isn't about one's feel good but insuring Nintendo stay at the top of sales and hardware and hardware sales. If you wait to long you loose out remember Gamers grow old and new one comes along and if you don't get those interested you loose out.
The Super Switch is coming out this year, 2022, with Breath of the Wild 2. Nintendo wants Breath of the Wild 2 run at 60 fps, and the Super Switch is the solution.
The Super Switch will be 100% backwards compatible with all Switch games, but will run NEW Switch games at better FPS, and higher resolutions.
I'm guessing we will get the announcement soon. Super Switch at $400. Switch OLED at $300. Switch Lite still at $200.
Games that will feature the better FPS and resolutions will be:
Splatoon 3
Bayonetta 3
Breath of the Wild 2
Diddy Kong's Racing
Metroid Prime 4
maybe even Kirby's game in March.
The Switch OLED was nothing but a stop gap for the holidays, so Nintendo could have more chips made for the Super Switch this year.
Super Switch releasing with Breath of the Wild 2, at the minimum, if not before then in March with Kirby?
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For their next console, I’d like for them to have full backwards compatibility with the Switch!
@Mince What if Nintendo just condenses the market slowly? So, they announce and release the "Super Switch", and say it is 100% backwards compatible with all Switch games, right? No loss there, and it's a benefit for all Switch owners to upgrade over time.
They release the Super Switch at $400, Switch OLED drops down to $300 (replacing the OG model) still, and Switch LITE still at $200. Over time, they just simply replace the older models with the Super Switch model, because, aren't those chips going to stop being produced soon according to NVIDIA? Not 100% sure, but that's what I thought I had heard?
The one issue I see for them, is if they have figured out someway to produce the Super Switch Nintendo games like Metroid Prime 4 on one cartridge and the OG Switch could read it and a Super Switch could read it as well? Not sure what that might require on the software side/hardware side, and if that is even possible yet, but I'm thinking if there was an actual solution here, it would be less confusion at retail space: "Buy one game, it plays on either system." Instead of the, "This game only plays on THIS system." type of deal.
@BloodNinja or just transfer over all your eshop games onto the new Switch just like when I bought a Wii U and transferred all my Wii Shop games on to it.
For one thing if mills are saying there are 16g, 32g, 64g and maybe 128g Nintendo type carts. So that would imply they can fit a game onto the cart. It's a matter of production they can make enough or get enough of the carts to make it cheaper to put full games onto the cart and DLC. Then leaving any updates to download to one's microSD for storage. For one thing BOTW JPN and Splatoon 2 JPN both have the game and DLC on them so you have to ask how was that possible are those cards 32g carts???? I ordered both of those because they have full game and DLC on them-to collect them.
@kingbk great list but backwards compatible is not something Nintendo is good at…
@Bolt_Strike The Switch already had the typical Nintendo mid-gen refinement à la Nintendo DSi or GBA SP (neither of those revisions changed the hardware power of the console) with the Switch Lite and the Switch OLED but people are especially begging for a more powerful mid-gen upgrade and Nintendo did something like that only once with the New Nintendo 3DS and tbh nobody really profited from the new hardware.
Also, it seems that the New 3DS wasn’t quite the success that Nintendo expected so I think that they won’t make any mid-gen hardware upgrades any time soon…
@Blakeava1821 Did you learn nothing? Your SnesSwitch profile got banned because you spammed this non stop. Only a matter of time before you get banned on this one as well. And why do you reply to yourself? That's sad.
@Lem1697 don't know what you're talking about, but I don't know who snesswitch is, nice try though
@Blakeava1821 Bro your not as smart as you think. One loot at this profile https://www.nintendolife.com/users/SnesSwitch and you can see you both have the same review scores for all the same games, you write the same way, and if you use a wayback machine to see what you commented as SnesSwitch, you can see the comment that was removed is the exact same as your posting right now. Not only that but for some reason you keep replying to yourself? Which is just weird honestly
@Lem1697 maybe we're in the Twilight zone, or friends, or brothers, or aliens 👽 from outer space toying with you humans 🤷🏻♂️
@Delycache The Switch Lite and Switch OLED are more analogous to the DS Lite and 3DS XL. They changed the size, but not any of the specs. The DSi and New 3DS actually had spec upgrades and extra features and software that the base DS and 3DS models do not, no such Switch model does that right now.
@Bolt_Strike Well, the DSi had DSiWare and an additional camera but in terms of hardware power, while the DSi is slightly more powerful than the DS, the were no games that took advantage of it and it was only used to handle stuff like the more advanced operating system. So the outcome is still the same: the New 3DS was the only time Nintendo did a mid-gen upgrade which provided more hardware power for games to run and it didn’t do exactly well and was more a waste of potential than anything (just take a look at the handful of games that actually used the better hardware) so I still think that Nintendo won’t do anything similar anytime soon…
@koekiemonster great list but backwards compatible is not something Nintendo is good at…
BC for what? You can't put 2DS/3DS carts into a Switch. So what are you talking about here? That works only if the New Switch had something like New 3DS XL games that had a notch that didn't fit older 3DS models but there's nothing here there just a single console Nintendo Switch cart format and most likely be the standard going forward. What matter is the cart size from 16b, 32g, 64, and maybe 128g cart sizes. But they will more or less keep that size for BC to keep making more money.
"Our forecasts" - It isn't the weather..
2024 sounds like a realistic release date for the next console.
Also, it needs to be powerful. Not as powerful as the PS5 or the Xbox Series X, but powerful enough to run games with incredibly high definition graphics.
Also, it'd do Metroid Prime 4 justice.
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