Pokémon Legends: Arceus Is Already Being Streamed Online, And It's Not Even Out Yet

Nintendo should go after these if they aren't. They rabidly hunt down fan projects that don't cost them a dime but they let this happen?

Well, at least I can watch first 30 minutes gameplay to getting know more about the game.

@Mikmoomamimocki I agree with this. Nintendo will go out of there way to copyright a adult 3d bowser's model, but not stuff like this.

Normally I would hate this, but its too funny seeing people having the guts to stream it, and imagining Game Freak having to accept the outcome.

I think they are taking down some youtube videos. Anyways, they really should find a way to prevent people from playing the game until the release date.

Like, even with physical carts there should be an online check or required download before playing or something.

I watched just enough to know I'll take a chance on the game when it comes out, because the marketing was too poor to help me make my decision. Now I'm doing something kind of incomprehensible but bear with me here for a sec: not watching it because I don't want to watch it. Crazy, I know, but it seems to be working.

OH FOR THE LOVE OF ARCEUS
WHY AND HOW DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?!?

@Joeynator3000 Ehhhh putting a check on physical wouldn't be great though. Sets somewhat of a dangerous precedent for the future of physical games, if you need to do an online check to make sure you can play it, unless they can figure out some way to make it only check once.

"Entire playthroughs"?
....what is is, a 4 hour game?

@Joeynator3000 You realize if they did that you'd need internet to even access any of your games. What if you exceeded your data cap or your ISP has an outage? Guess you won't be playing your games for hours to weeks then depending on the circumstances...

@msvt Last I've heard the game takes around 25-30 hours to beat just the story stuff alone. People are really pulling all-nighters to play it all the way through.

@Joeynator3000 I hate to say this but, thats a bad idea, If I have no internet, how in the world will I play my game? anyway, they bought it at the store, checked it out and everything, so its not like they didn't pay for it, its more or less the stores fault for selling it to them.

@Snatcher There are some people who work for the store and rig the game so they get it early, either with the help of another employee or by stealing it. However, the normal people getting the game either got it through dumps, or they got their copy in the mail early/a store accidentally sold it to them early.

But does it look good? I’m so torn about this game.

@Mikmoomamimocki
They are taking down the videos.

@Grahamthecracker I heard the gameplay's great, but the graphics are what'd you expect for pokemon in general. Passable at best, but not really as good as games that release around the same time.

@VoidofLight Thats actually messed up, I know you want a game early, and thats cool and everything, but going so far as to rig it for your need? Idk why I think people will be better LOL.

@Grahamthecracker Please, please, just watch a trailer or two, and you figure out if you want it, Everyone else will probably tell you it looks like crap.

Look the people who are playing the game are not to blame. It is on retailers who sold the game early.

@blindsquarel True, but that still doesn't excuse them from talking about leaks, spoiler's, or streaming, because they should know better.

@Joeynator3000 : Nope. Awful idea that would set a terrible precedent for physical releases that are far-too-often compromised as it is (cough BD/SP).

There are no easy solutions to this problem, but I suppose streaming platforms and Nintendo’s Greninjas can be a little more vigilant to prevent leaks from reaching the masses.

Or Nintendo can take measures to ensure that physical copies reach stores closer to the release date rather than a few weeks early.

I’m not particularly fussed though. I like to know what I’m getting into so that I’ll know what kind of team I would like to build.

Easy targets for Nintendo. And they can do this via twitch, YouTube and the other providers ... And get those accounts banned and closed.

Piracy is one thing, but for people to profit off this is off the scale.

@Cathousemaster Not everyone is an affiliate or partner so not all streamers would profit by doing this, but it's still icky nonetheless.

Someone already beat the game

hahaha I love this

I don't like this happening but I am also not going to watch them, wait for real reviews from respected Youtubers.

Its pretty much out already like most nintendo games

@VoidofLight

Personally, I am jealous I didn't get it early! I've had physical version pre-ordered since the first day.

@Snatcher Cause they straight don't care about the law or the rules.

Is it any good? When does the review embargo end? When are Nintendo Life planning on posting their review as I’m keen for this.

There's no real way round this sadly, i suppose the best to hope for is Nintendo somehow find out which shop it came from and crackdown hard on it, of course issue is most of the time its stolen so its tricky to track.

They could release digital first though and then releases physical month later but that's unfair on those who want the cart though.

@DiamondJim If its like almost every single Nintendo published Switch game in the past then expect reviews a day or two prior to release. NL has no doubt got it and playing it but they most likely can't say that to us.

@Joeynator3000 the only way they can fix this is, if next console is a digital only

You know what I will be really upset with? If Nintendo starts sending out copyright strikes and taking down the wrong videos again. Age of Calamity's case proved to me that Nintendo is no way capable of properly preventing such dire leaks.

If you need an explanation, feel free to ask me.

@WallyWest
Usually with reviewer copies given out, they are allowed to speak up and show certain portions of the game. If Nintendo Life has a reviewer copy, they likely would've already mentioned it in one of their articles.

This ladies and gentlemen is why Nintendo is so protective of their IPs and go after Rom sites so harshly.

It's also likely the reason why Nintendo is so anal about mods and fan-made games.

Nintendo has always been a company that likes to control their IPs and jerks who leaks games only makes them clamp down more.

So, the next time Nintendo shuts down a Smash mod or a fan-made game and people slam them as tight fisted control freaks who are behind the times, why don't you think the jackasses who are leaking and streaming games before their release date.

I would not be shocked if stuff like this is why Nintendo is harsh towards any use of their IPs they don't approve of.

@ModdedInkling I'm listening!

People acting like if they got the game early they would sit waiting for days for a release date to arrive before they started playing.

Maybe if the publisher promoted the game more and showed more actual gameplay, people would stop blaming gamers for showing the game. They are doing the publishers job

@piecez No one has an issue with them playing it, but streaming it.

Honestly, I'm not even sure if this is stores. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some random guy at IGN or something doing this. You'd sure as hell be safer that way, since I doubt that Nintendo would cut off review codes for a major outlet unless they were absolutely sure that it was them.

@alexybubble No, it's actually from stores. People got their hands on copies because they either worked at a store, or knew someone who did. Or they stole it by pirating, or just plainly stole a copy.

Played it earlier it feels lifeless & empty & the graphics are terrible for today's standards I can see why Nintendo haven't shown much of it

Watch people defend this too.. Nintendo should definitely go after these guys - or, in specific, after the stores that sold the games this early.

@Would_you_kindly welp..there ya have it then. Hype responsibly

Send in the Ninjas!

lol, this game looks bad

@Poco_Lypso You play Switch games for how they look? Lol

I already seen enough, and it looks amazing.

@Arawn93 absolutely not my main objective! haha. But more beautiful graphics are just... more beautiful? And other games on the switch have shown, IT IS POSSIBLE, lol. Gamefreak just doesn't care to put in some effort.

The solution is pretty simple though, don't watch videos on something you don't want spoiled.

@The-Chosen-one It is very fun from what I have played so far, definitely worth it.

@Poco_Lypso From what I’ve heard, the gameplay more than makes up for the graphics.

@Jokerwolf

Yeah, but like.. there are Youtubers that put spoilers in their thumbnails - and sometimes Youtube itself recommends them to you. It's highly annoying.. you can't run away from spoilers, unless you completely block yourself from using any type of social media. People are just being ***** tbh. I hope Nintendo gets them.. good.

@VoidofLight Ikr, graphics arent everything, more like a cherry on top. its like buying a used car I guess, if the engine and everything works great a few dents and scratches wont take away from the experience

@Caryslan I'm just really glad that Nintendo is losing the fight. Threat your customers like sh*t and they will retaliate.
I'm glad the game got leaked, now people will know it's mediocre before they blindly buy it.

@dBackLash imo it will set a new sales record

@SuperZeldaFun they just discuss whats happening in the nintendo world, its better than put a childish ban on the topic

I agree with the general debate around not wanting to rely on Internet connections to check physical copies can be played. However, it's not some insane level of coding to have a check run the first time and if a certain date and time threshold is met, then the check is never performed again.

I have a feeling the issue is linked to the promotion of the game and promo copies utilising the same code as the finished game (albeit typically in a different box or with a different card design). Now these are obviously versions you want people to access ahead of the street date - differentiating between the two is the challenge. Not a huge issue on PlayStation or Xbox as the discs are printed here, there and everywhere but Nintendo's Switch cards are actually a nightmare format for publishers. They have a crazy long lead time to produce, and they are only produced in a very limited number of places.

For clarity, it's getting the code on the card that I'm talking about. The sticker on the card, the box the card is placed within - the publisher can do what they want with these at their distribution centres (for a price as it's all manual!) But easy enough to indicate the promotional copies.

A possible solution would be to send out the promo copies to press earlier (they are printed at least 12 weeks before Street date, so loads of time to play with for PR), embargo their feedback to a certain date (they typically do this already anyway), and then patch in the date checker 2 weeks prior to launch - so the promo copies also stop working. Just tell the press they have between x and y date to play the game.

It's actually an easy enough solution for publishers... so makes me think they really don't actually care a huge amount about this stuff.

If the game is amazing, I don't think they have too much to worry about. Any publicity is good publicity. Still, whoever is streaming it goes down as a party pooper in my books, and clearly in it for themselves.

I remember a similar thing happening with Sword Shield when those got leaked beforehand. I relented and watched a few of the streams back then. NEVER AGAIN.

It looks lovely!! Cant wait to play it on friday yaaay

@SuperZeldaFun
Oh no, now we know that there's fighting in a Pokémon game.

Also Sephiroth kills Aerith.

not only a ROM via emulator but a complete dump file can be played on jailbreak Switch

It's playable on firmware 11.0 SXOS as well just hunt down the patched version. Gotta love the Internet saving me cash again

Can't wait to see YouTubers videos about Nintendo coming after them and banning their account.

I want to know what shop they are getting these games early from, just curious

I watched a stream for some minutes and I really enjoyed the gameplay

Why anyone would even want to watch it being played by someone else before they play it is beyond me. But then again. I don't get the appeal of watching streamers full stop.

@Baker1000,

puzzles me as well, also people are still surprised games get sold before the street date.

@blindsquarel You mean it's ok for you to dump a rom of a game and upload it on the internet, because you got game earlier than you should?

@Joeynator3000 I hope you realize that is an awful idea. I want my physical cartridges to function well past the expiration date of Nintendo's support for the Switch. That's why I buy physical. If they needed to be activated, having a physical cartridge completely misses the point.

If Nintendo actually shared some information about the game, then this would not be necessary.

I’m actually pretty excited about going into this game with very little information about it. It’ll be one of the few times I’ve gone into a game without really knowing what it’s going to be like. I like Pokémon so at worst it’ll be an underwhelming spinoff for a series I love, at best it’ll be a quite refreshing take on a series I love. I’m feeling pretty optimistic and excited about it!

If you see a title with "And It's Not Even Out Yet", & the thumbnail is a character with a shocked or sad face, you know it's another leak.

@Mauzuri At the end of the day that is a self control issue, behavior is an individual problem and always should be the main concern. If somebody cannot go multiple days without social media they have problems. Also I really doubt there's any one image now that would ruin a complete game unless there is already previous knowledge of the game. That doesn't mean they should do what they're doing but at the end of the day social media is cancer anyways.

@ValZ Exactly, Also who are all these people who constantly watch streamers if they have no idea who they are. I generally don't even watch recommended videos personally. Though I don't really watch twitch I do stream with my buddy but that's about it.

@Askalt I didn't dump it but I sure did download it, I also did preorder it so that it really does not matter in the end as long as I'm not showing anything to somebody.

@Askalt It is never okay to distribute a backup of your game. It is quite literally illegal. Of course publishers don't care as much about very old ROMs but if it's newer games, you are really playing with fire if you upload it. Nintendo and TPC have both financially destroyed people for this before, and frankly, they deserved it.

@Snatcher
Basically, when Age of Calamity was released in Australia, a lot of streamers and YouTubers were given copyright strikes and had their videos/streams taken down, despite being legally released in that timezone. Whatever happened, Nintendo automatically assumed that these people lived in Europe or North America, where the game wasn't going to be released for another few hours.

AT THE SAME TIME, we have people who have leaked the game a whole week early, including infamous YouTuber BeardBear. He didn't get any of his videos taken down. He didn't get his channel taken down. People like him managed to walk past Nintendo without a scratch, despite illegally playing the game early (they don't have the reviewer copies of the game) and upload content to their desires.

@Jokerwolf
It's hard when people are exposed to social media every day, and this is especially looking at YouTube; people don't just go on there for exclusively watch gameplay, but they might accidentally stumble across it.

@blindsquarel
Both are to blame. The retailers hold a responsibility, while the people playing the game early are using a loophole to navigate around Nintendo's non-disclosure agreement.

This is both legally and ethically very scummy. If you want to play the game that bad to break the law, don’t spread information on how to do it or stream it in any capacity.

@Mikmoomamimocki they sue people for obscene amounts of money for putting roms of their games online before release

@ModdedInkling Start turning your phone notifications off stop using social media so much there's plenty of other things to do in the world go build stuff like holy crap lol.

@ModdedInkling That’s pretty crappy.

@Mikmoomamimocki "Nintendo does one bad thing, so they should do more bad things"

People are talking like streaming a game is high treason. What difference does it make if a streamer plays it a day before release or a day after? Just don't watch the streams. Streams and more gameplay footage help people make informed purchases, I see nothing wrong with that.

Nintendo shouldn't "clamp down" on retailers, or require always-online like some are suggesting— or really, do anything drastic over something minor like this…

@Caryslan "Nintendo has always been a company that likes to control their IPs and jerks who leaks games only makes them clamp down more."

This is literal Stockholm syndrome stuff. "They just can't control themself, it's your fault for getting them angry!"

Nintendo executives choose how to react, no-one makes them take down fan-games, no-one makes them be anal.

Be a shame if those who leak footage got their videos removed

Who the hell cares

@Askalt
No I mean it is okay for the person who bought the game to dump it. That is why I said at least one. But even if the people who only have the rom are in the wrong it is still entirely on the retailer for releasing the game early.

@ModdedInkling
For the people who just own the rom yes, but for the people who bought the game they did nothing wrong.

@Snatcher
From a moral perspective yes but it is well within your rights to post a spoiler about a game.

@JakedaArbok Well, they can't help it if stores are already selling it. Plenty of times a store breaks street date. Who's fault is that? The customer, or the store? I'm betting on the latter. Yeah, maybe don't stream the game, but you don't have to watch it either. And if people spread that news and spoil others, they are the problem, not necessarily the one person streaming it. If nobody shares it, you wouldn't know any better.

@rubiednin actually US if not also Japanese law kinda does force them.

There are parts of US trademark/copyright law that boils down to "protect it or risk losing it"

Not sure if Japanese law has the same rule

@Octane
I guess I wasn’t clear enough in my first comment. What I mean is everybody that perpetrates this is as fault. I guess streaming it is a lesser evil, because you got the means from someone else, but you still played the game at time that the developer did not intend for you to play it at. Either way, just wait until the actual release date.

@nocdaes I think the main problem is making sure physical copies of the game are playable with no internet connection. The only way of checking the date without internet connection that I can think of is putting a timer inside the cartridge, which would probably have to wait until the next console. Also, it would need to be encrypted, as hackers would be able to disable a date check. Decrypting it would require internet connection to get the key from the servers. Although the vast majority of players won't have a problem with having to connect to the internet the first time they play a game, there will always be a small minority who can't connect the console to the internet. Perhaps the next console could use mobile networks just to get the encryption key from the servers?

@Jokerwolf

Yeah, true. I've gone three weeks now without social media (so before even the leaks happened) and I should be fine, but.. you know. I still want to use Youtube for help regarding certain games. But if Youtube recommends a video to me that happens to spoil some of Legends Arceus.. well, *****. I guess you can't really prevent it from happening, but still.
People don't seem to have any decency these days, unfortunately.

Isn't it harmful to Nintendo, releasing this info? If those streamers had just a small audience, well, after this news a lot more people know about it.

A store owner letting a huge Pokemon fan take the game home a day or two early on the promise that it won't be shared with anyone? I can look the other way on that, and I don't suppose it irks Nintendo much.

But someone getting a game a week prior to its release and then making money by streaming it just seems ethically wrong to me. If that's the kind of person you want to be, if that's your character and who you are, then I have no place for you in my life. There are plenty of other ways to amuse yourself or make money.

I've read some of the suggestions here, and I would say no matter what Nintendo tries, someone will find a way around it. I would tell reviewers and retailers: If you share this game before release date and it winds up streaming somewhere, you will lose access to our merchandise for five years. Do you want to not sell Nintendo stuff for five years? Go ahead and take the chance. And then make an example of someone to prove the consequences. I know that's not going to be 100 percent effective either, but it will at least make people think twice, which I think is the closest thing to victory Nintendo can hope to achieve here.

And it also stinks that people who truly want to play the game without spoilers have to see spoiling thumbnails in their video recommendations.

@snarls200 That only applies to trademarks— you can ignore copyright infringement as long as you want and still keep ownership.

We've been down this road already: Nintendo itself even gave up on blanket-banning livestreams a couple years back.

@dBackLash Uh no. Same thing happened with BD/SP and that game ended up having a better launch then SW/SD. This game will still sell millions because only a handful of people in the grand scheme of things emulate to begin with.

@rubiednin Nope. It is when it’s a game that broke street date by over a week and spreading online with streamers desperately trying to market/promote themselves using a street date broken copy of the game they emulated without even buying the game/or even possibly directly stolen

You don’t need to commit “high treason” to do something blatantly illegal as somewhere along the line a game was stolen from the game store stock so it gets spread to the masses.

Even if the streamer themselves didn’t do it they are still indirectly promoting it by supporting said thieves just because it benefits their Twitch account/can get more donations.

Nintendo needs to put a stop to this as if people are getting review copies and people are posting walkthroughs on Twitch and YouTube, Nintendo needs to stop sending them review copies in the future and send them a cease and desist order! Why do some people have to spoil it for the rest! Also stores like Wal-Mart love to break street dates! When they do Gamestop and Target will sell it too but Amazon will wait till the street date to release it!

@Mauzuri I agree with you but there is nothing we can do to make people more considerate.

@Joeynator3000
An online check would be the best way to stop them. If I legally prepurchased the game digitally and have to wait because of an online check these criminals should too

@blindsquarel
But those who bought the game are circumventing a situation where normally, they'd be stuck under a non-disclosure agreement. If they're allowed to freely upload content onto social media, then those with reviewer copies (including Nintendo Life) should also be fully allowed to do so under no guidelines.

@Jokerwolf
I'm talking about exploring YouTube. There's something called a Recommended section, and unless you pre-emptively prepared for every single thing you wanted to avoid spoilers, there's no way to avoid such scenarios.

Remember, people don't just use YouTube to exclusively watch gameplay. What if they wanted to search up some documentary, or watch a funny compilation, or a trailer? This isn't an all-or-nothing scenario where you simply choose to use or to not use social media.

@rubiednin
Being informed about a game is watching something that the developers and publishers WANT you to see - aka, watching videos and reading articles from people who legally have the game early and are bonded by a non-disclosure agreement. That's already a big hassle, and it's obviously a waste of time and money every time that sort of situation gets broken.

Yes, it's biased, and yes, it means you're technically not as informed as if you were to watch a leaker, but games have evolved from just being about gameplay - they're experiences, and people want to have that right to experience it themselves before watching anyone else do it. Watching a pre-release review from an official source more or less ensures that you have enough information when entering a game, but also not enough to ruin a first-hand first-time experience.

@NintendoByNature I probably wouldn't be as critical if it was an indie title & wasn't priced at £49.99 but this is a huge franchise with more than enough money to do a hell of alot better there's no voice over , the graphics are poor & it just feels completely lifeless

The Pokémon Company deserves that sort of thing.

@Would_you_kindly fair criticisms for sure. I'll probably still give it a shot though.

@Would_you_kindly,

Well there's most of my Pokemon bingo card filled out, game too expensive, o.k if it was an indie game, made by a developer with lots of money, that could do a lot better, and the graphics are rubbish and the game is lifeless.

If only you had added people buying the game were sheep and celebrating mediocrity, I would have had a full house.

I could easily grab the ROM to play on here, but I think I can safely say it's worth buying. Might still download to try it out before launch day though.

@ModdedInkling
Buying a game at Walmart is different than getting a review code from Nintendo. They are not the same thing.

@HeyNavComm Wouldn't it affect your enjoyment of the actual game if you have to start over for no reason? Seems kinda pointless, with only 5 days left.

Its just a game.

you should use the streams to make informed decisions, like, is this a good game. game freak are seemingly scared to show live gameplay, for some reason. probably because it looks very very shabby from what I can see

• crazy pop in
• lack of ambience or atmosphere
• awkward camera
• little to no polish
• ugly on screen text
• wireframes visible during gameplay ugh

Can't Nintendo check there servers to see who's playing it or when they first started playing it, and if it's before release day then ban their accounts

@ModdedInkling If people don't want spoilers and only want to see official clips and press releases, they can do so. If they want to see clips the publisher didn't release (because they might be unflattering), they should be able to do that too.

Heck, the unflattering bit isn't even an issue here— what I've seen on streams looks way better than the trailers released so far, convinced me to get the game.

@Arawn93 It's not copyright infringement, and it doesn't weaken Nintendo's ownership— at best it's breach of contract on behalf of the retailers selling copies, or petty theft from employees taking from stock.

Really can't bring myself to be angry about this small stuff, especially when the people getting attacked (streamers) haven't broken laws themselves, and especially not when the victim (Nintendo) isn't being hurt financially.

@rubiednin
But that's only one side of this whole case. There are people who want to see just what the publisher wants and they also want to avoid seeing leaked footage. It can't be choice-driven in that scenario.

@blindsquarel
You have to look at the bigger picture here. Other than being stuck under a non-disclosure agreement, reviewer copies are generally the same as retail copies. Why should the people getting a review copy be stuck under restrictions before the release date if those purchasing by retail aren't?

Man, I was super excited for this game but for what I've heard...

@ModdedInkling
Once you buy a game you are free to do what you want with it. (Although Pokémon company is going after the videos.) if you are gave a review copy then you have to abide by the rules in the contract. It is really not that complicated.

@blindsquarel
I suppose you may have misinterpreted my meaning behind this.

I have no issues with anyone playing the game early, regardless of whether it's legal or not. Whatever they do, it's for their own enjoyment and I'm not one to control or change that.

I do have an issue with them publicly presenting it. That decision of when people should be allowed to present information should always be up to the publishers of that content. The rules shouldn't be exclusive to reviewers and other people under NDA, in my opinion.

I sure wish they'd come up with a way to stop this sort of thing. It's been happening with every new Pokemon game lately. Bummer.

@ModdedInkling
They are taking down videos which is all Pokémon company can really do. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make illegal. Is it rude? Yes, but that is not what matters.

LOL, this is becoming a pattern with Pokemon. Sounds like something on the publisher end needs to change.

@blindsquarel
The only reason I'm concerned is because Age of Calamity gave me an impression that Nintendo and by extension, The Pokémon Company, aren't capable of removing content properly. They sometimes target the wrong people.

While Nintendo can be exceedingly harsh with how they go after ROM sites and shut down fan games, stuff like this makes me see the other side of the coin.

For some reason people vehemently aim to acquire, crack, and emulate Nintendo titles before they even release to the general public. Why? Selfishness and greed, that's why. I don't buy any attempt at a moral argument. "We want people to be able to demo the game. Nintendo is horrible, so this is us striking back! They deserve this!"

No, people just want free s***, and that is the bottom line. The Switch is easy to crack, so crack away they go.

@rubiednin To both of your points. One, avoiding spoilers has gotten increasingly difficult to the point that avoiding social media entirely is almost needed. I've gotten YouTube videos with spoilers in the title directly in my feed.

Second, if a game is cracked, emulated, and made available for download before it even hits store shelves in an official capacity it does hurt a company financially. I certainly do not endorse an online restriction nor do I believe in some worldwide crackdown on retailers because someone broke a a contract clause, but do not act like this causes no financial damage.

@SuperCharr Yeah, I honestly don't want a future where the physical copy needs to check online in order to let you play. It'd defeat the purpose of buying a physical game on a portable system you can take anywhere.

@rubiednin "Nintendo has always been a company that likes to control their IPs and jerks who leaks games only makes them clamp down more."

This is literal Stockholm syndrome stuff. "They just can't control themself, it's your fault for getting them angry!"

Nintendo executives choose how to react, no-one makes them take down fan-games, no-one makes them be anal."

It's not stockholm syndrome to punish someone for messing around with your stuff, it's common sense; if you want someone to be nice to you, don't screw with them. Even if you think they screwed you first (key word, think, because taking down trashy fan mods isn't harsh or cruel in the slightest), doing it back and expecting civil treatment is naive; all it'll do is make them think "Well, guess I was right to do that then" and keep doing it.
Civility is a two-way process, and if you think you can bypass that, or twist it in your favour, then you're delusional, simple as that.

My comment was a sarcastic response to somebody complaining about the game, hence the at the end of my comment.

I think the game looks great and can't wait for Friday, I too have issues with the same old complaints levelled in every single Legends comment section, and the way people who do not like the game suggest it's everyone, and also anybody being excited for the game and planning to purchase it as easily pleased.

Sorry for any confusion my comment has caused.

Have the leaks caused anyone else to actually preorder the game? I was a bit worried it was going to be a bit sparse and then saw more info and was like yeah lets go...

The game is excellent so this is only going to increase sales. That said, it still isn't right and I wouldn't be surprised if The Pokemon Company takes out the DMCA whip.

@Troll_Decimator Honestly, not really... I've often downloaded ROMs to try a game even knowing I'm getting it day one and doesn't bother me start again. I usually don't play more than an hour before I know it's a game worth buying or not.

Frankly if it weren't for graphical/performance issues, I might very well just play a full game via ROM... but I love the performance and portability of my Switch.

@Primarina,

Honestly don't worry, it's easy to do on here, and if I was posting that way you had every right to call me out on it, I know I am always arguing with the haters on here.

@ModdedInkling I really doubt a thumbnail would spoil anything though, you would have to see gameplay. If a single image ruined a game for you, you have much bigger issues.

@Jokerwolf
It's the stupid YouTube preview that does the magic of spoiling. It's especially worse on mobile. I hope you understand that passion isn't a problem, and I'd much rather you look at it from another perspective to understand why some people react aggressively to spoilers.

@ModdedInkling The simple solution is allow people to turn that off.

It's fair to say that, yes, "graphics" do play a role in how immersive an open world game is. There is clearly some dissonance between vision and execution when a product with a moment-to-moment gameplay focus on exploration and immersion is maybe a hair above Superman 64 in its presentation.

This dissonance (rather than any particular graphics-related complaint) has been the real issue with nearly every Pokemon game made in the past ten plus years. For whatever reason, the developers of the mainline titles in the Pokemon franchise have continuously shown that they are unable or unwilling to develop and realize a consistent, polished vision for their projects. Sword and Shield introduced free-roaming camera control only to limit its use for the majority of the game, giving players a taste of janky freedom that is taken away as swiftly as it's introduced; Legends: Arceus introduces an open world mechanic with a lifeless game world that even the most devout fan knows deep down is next to unbearable to look at or interact with, while consumers continue to lap it up on the momentum of brand recognition earned many years ago by much better games.

It is a shame, it really doesn't have to be like this at all. Pokemon is owned by companies with enough resources between them to put a Dyson sphere on the surface of the sun. The lack of passion, the corporate focus-grouped committee-approved merchandise-first approach to everything they do — all of it is needlessly off-putting. As successful as this game will doubtlessly be, it could be so much more. The wasted potential is extremely disappointing for many long-time fans.

@Menardi I mean, to some people the game's appearance will ruin the game, but I know a ton of people who are playing it now, and don't really care that it doesn't look the best. There's tons of stuff in terms of gameplay and features, and it makes up for the graphics.

Like, I personally think the game could look better, but this game also has actual side-content, and doesn't just hold your hand the entire way through like the past few generations of pokemon. It feels like the devs actually cared about the game's gameplay, instead of just recycling the same stuff as past generations.