IronMan28

People seem to forget that there are different segments of the gaming population to target.

"...which is worrying when you consider Nintendo's very real need to secure as much third party support for Switch as possible."

No kidding. It doesn't even sound like it's a "power issue," hopefully Nintendo figures out its fans would want to play games like this on Switch. Imagine how cool it would be to play this on the go with console quality graphics. Vita owners would weep more than they already do because Nintendo fans would have this on the Switch.

I can't help but think this is a game that will lack depth. It does look like it could be fun for a little while, though. I'll wait for it when it's on discount from My Nintendo.

I want this and BotW on day one. Has Been Heroes looks pretty good, too. I'll get "Has Been" in April, most likely.

I'm stoked for Breath of the Wild on Switch. I can picture myself playing it in handheld mode often, just because having a game like that in the palm of my hands is too cool. On top of that, Sonic Mania looks like it'll be a blast. Super Bomberman R is another game I think will be pretty cool. Disgea 5 will round out my collection, too. Heck, I'll probably get MK8 Deluxe later down the line.

@electrolite77 Building up a user base is typically how shareholders are appeased. I think Nintendo's assuming that adding value to older games by implementing online play in NES and SNES games is enough. While it would be enough if they were contingent upon being a member and they included later generations (N64 and GCN online play would be awesome, especially in older Mario Kart titles and the like), I don't think they're making the right move at this moment. However, if enough people buy Switch and pay for the premium service, Nintendo should get the capacity to provide a good rewards program. Time will tell and if Nintendo smartly integrates handheld and console lineups for the Switch, it can justify the gouging at the beginning a bit more if it gives away more as the service matures.

Oh hey, it's the US in about 8 years! Okay, maybe 10-15.

@electrolite77 " Again it's about giving their existing loyal supporters a bit of something back. "

That's standard practice in many industries. Nintendo should follow suit, but I don't see that happening. I'm rooting for Switch, but hopefully Nintendo improves things like the VC sooner rather than later.

I doubt it means there will be data. It will be interesting to see how Nintendo handles its online offerings with Switch once they start charging people for internet play.

@JaxonH I understand your points and appreciate them. However, I will counter with the Big Mac example. In marketing, we say that if a Big Mac cost McDonald's $5 to make, the firm couldn't charge $7 because nobody is willing to pay that price. As far as an upgrade fee, I don't take issue with that too much because it really isn't a simple cut and paste activity to move VC games. However, Nintendo still has to come to terms with the reality that customers won't pay for certain games over and over again unless there are legitimate incentives.

I pre-ordered a Switch, but that doesn't mean I think the VC is going to be perfect and can still appreciate the merits of both sides of the argument about the platform.

It's amazing how Switch is launching just like the other 2 consoles did upon their release yet everyone is acting like this is a brand new phenomenon. And people are even treating Switch like it's been on the market as its 2 closest competitors. I guess I shouldn't be that baffled since everyone reacted to the Wii U this way, and it would have taken a new Metroid or F Zero (or both, and at launch with the 3D Mario) to placate people.

Very lame if they make us pay another upgrade fee. The only way it's remotely okay is if Switch is truly replacing 3DS and Wii U, that way you only have to buy them once. But then, when the Switch's successor comes out, what do we do? Pay again?

Can't wait for this game. And when MS first started Xbox Live they charge people for online services while giving them absolutely nothing. Until this generation, MS didn't offer anyone free games, but could do so once the service grew. Nintendo is trying to grow its platform, so it's charging people to play online. Really, Wii U's online was pretty good in terms of fidelity. Switch will likely continue that trend, but improve. Most people perceive Nintendo's online services as "bad" because of the lack of voice chat, which I take issue with because that isn't an issue of quality. Yes, Smash could use work, but MK8 and Splatoon are as good as you'll get without being charged to play people online.

Again, Nintendo is trying to improve its offerings and charging people will help them obtain the necessary capital to reach the levels of competitors. However, I won't defend the free monthly rental for NES and SNES games because that's legitimately egregious, those games should have online features and be free as long as someone pays for the premium service.

@4estGump @aaronsullivan Thank you both very much! It's a much bigger launch, for sure. And times will be very exciting then. My son will eventually get a Switch of his own, just like my daughter. My wife and I plan on playing Splatoon 2 quite a bit!

Got mine from Best Buy, did store pickup because I don't know if my son will be born by then or the day after.

Switch, like any gaming device, needs compelling software and perceived variety. Further, it needs to have the compelling software released at a consistent pace.

I'm pretty sure they'll have plenty of time to announce anything we haven't heard of yet. It only takes a few seconds to reveal the price and release date(s). They'll probably show a little bit of BoTW and the Switch's launch window games. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I'm ready to see the presentation. It'll be interesting to see what they have in the works for the Switch.

YES! IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING! I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M YELLING!

I just want Nintendo to shut up the trolls with Switch. Who am I kidding? That's never going to happen unless they go third-party, and even then, haters gonna hate.

Also, @JaxonH "So ya, I'd be down with an eventual Switch upgrade. Especially given a launch price of $250 (same price the dinky little 3DS launched at) which would mean maybe $100 to upgrade with a trade in."

I've pretty much said since it was revealed we'll probably see the Switch upgrade, the market is okay with the idea since product life cycles of consoles have been altered this gen.

@Link41x " NintendoLife has been sinking down to about WiiUDaily..."

Okay, that's a stretch. WiiUDaily is the Breitbart of gaming journalism.

It's amazing how many people wanted this to be true, either to deride or praise it. Either way, I'd probably buy it for the portable factor. As one poster said earlier, if this were for 3DS more people would be okay with it, but since the fake was for Switch they were up in arms.

@Grumblevolcano Honestly, I don't have high hopes for the VC out of the gate anyway. Yes, it's disappointing that Nintendo doesn't have it together on that front, but it's pointless to worry so much. Either way, sucks that we'll have to pay to upgrade again for the Switch version of VC games.

@Grumblevolcano "Well leaks seem to suggest upgrade fee for Wii U to Switch so if you own on Wii VC but not upgraded to Wii U VC you'd have to buy the game full price again on Switch."

Source?

Well, January 12th can't come soon enough.

@Shugo "Unless he's straight-up lying, that means Game Freak has nothing in the works for Switch right now."

I wouldn't say they have nothing in the works right now, and straight up lying isn't out of the question. As a business major, I've learned that lying to your constituents isn't out of the question and considered necessary in some cases. Of course, that isn't to say everything Eurogamer reports is gospel, but I'd like to think they've heard from what they feel are reliable sources. Then again, we'll all just have to wait and see...

@Mr_Zurkon Based on his comments it seems like it is a foregone conclusion it's coming to Switch.

@Shugo "Despite the fact that Pokemon Stars likely doesn't even exist (especially after that recent Masuda interview)"
"Without a doubt, Nintendo Switch is the future, but we will have to wait until it goes out on the market and study how it can benefit from Pokemon. When people have it, we will have too see and deeply study how to use it so we can think how the next entries of Pokemon are going to be and how the saga can benefit from the new console."

Sounds to me like they want to create a Pokemon game for it, and since they rarely have anything to do with the spin-offs, it's likely he is saying they'll put a mainline game on there. While this is conjecture at this point, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Stars doesn't exist, although I can see where one might believe that. However, Eurogamer's earlier reports on Switch were fairly accurate and they may be right on Stars, too.

On to the contents of this article. As long as Nintendo can keep a lineup that equals 3DS and Wii U for Switch, it'll sell well enough for the revised 2.0 hardware that'll satisfy more "core" gamers. On top of that, I'd like to know the best battery life it gets, and even 3 hours isn't horrible considering it's much more powerful than 3DS, which launched with a life of 3-5 hours.

Good list, but misses a few really special games. Shovel Knight is brilliant, difficult without being too annoying, and downright fun. SteamWorld Dig is excellent (if nothing but an updated 3DS port) and same goes for Xeodrifter. Wii U did not have a short supply of entertaining 2D platformers.

@Nintendoforlife Still bugs me, that they don't separate 3DS and Wii U Smash...

@IceClimbers Huh, I didn't realize it's by revenue. And, yes, that does make Pokemon's numbers even more impressive since that's the case.

@Dakt I'm less cynical than that, but it's possible you're right.

@GreenMonkie I appreciate your logic, honestly, I'd rather NPD gave the same treatment to Smash than Pokemon get the Smash treatment.

@Dakt It only had a few days to chart and as far as I know NPD still tracks physical for a lot of publishers.

Why in the world do they keep breaking up the two versions of Pokemon? That makes way less sense than combining the Smash Bros. for 3DS and Smash Bros. for Wii U.

@emperorbob While I respect your viewpoint, I disagree. If you're not one of those people who saw the console games that 3DS couldn't handle and said, "I wish that was on 3DS," then I completely get where you're coming from. However, if you are one of the people who thinks that way, I feel like Switch will fulfill your needs eventually (assuming the battery life isn't a minimum of about 4 hours, then it may be sooner). Of course, I say that assuming you're more into the ease of taking the Switch with you, which is harder than taking a 3DS XL. Again, I think I get your point, but there are pros and cons to having an integrated device.

Hybrids typically have strengths and weaknesses associated with what's crossing over. It's on Nintendo to convince people that it's worth buying the Switch, and the easiest way to do that is to integrate handheld and console lineups.

Either way, didn't reports from the likes of Emily Rogers say that it'd match the original Xbox One at launch? I say "at launch" because ever since I saw the Switch's form factor it seemed pretty obvious Nintendo's aim is to create iterations of the hardware. If it sells well enough, I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a 2.0 edition, and the market seems okay with that given the advent of the Pro and Scorpio.

Nice teaser. I hope this game turns out well. Switch needs some compelling exclusive content and this looks like the type of game the console will desperately need.

This game looks cool, I hope the rumor is true.

It's probably a power-up in Super Mario Run that we don't know about yet. I doubt it means that it'll be a new one in the Switch game. Yes, I hope I'm dead wrong and it's an awesome power-up we get to use in the upcoming 3D Mario game or that it's an allusion to the Switch getting a Mario Warriors game.

We'll see how this pans out. Hopefully it isn't like the Switch's "Sadness."

@Dakt "Does the functionality exist in the Smash series amiibo?"
That's my question about the Toon Link amiibo. Other than that, I don't care since I only own that one right now.

I'm very glad that these were easy to find, I bought the 8-bit Link and the OoT Link. I can't wait until BotW comes out!

I can't wait for this game. The Switch version will be awesome just for the portability factor.

Nice, I'll have to check it out.

I didn't get the discount either. Hopefully Nintendo amends this soon because I won't download it until then.

I see the usual trolls are here today. It's up to Nintendo to shut them up, although they probably never will.

Sorry @Peach64 this game was, and still is, awesome. Doesn't matter whether it goes to another platform or not.

@Ichiban That's sad news about TES V: Remastered, I haven't gotten around to buying it yet. I'd add DOOM to the list of Bethesda games I want on Switch.

Nobody seems to remember how much Bethesda trashed the Wii U, this is in stark contrast to the Switch. Say what you will about them "putting their money where their mouth is," but their mouth is saying better things now than a few years ago. I, for one, am ready to see what comes to Switch from third-party developers like Bethesda.

@rjejr My daughter is 2 and my wife is currently pregnant with our son, so he won't be playing games for a while. However, my daughter plays Splatoon, she can maneuver pretty well for being so young and she can even kill enemies. Either way, I was the primary Wii U gamer while in school and working full time, so for me the system had more than enough software.

I got XC for Wii U only because I've held off on buying it (not being able to locate my physical copy has aided me in my decision process). However, most of these rewards are very bad. What's worse is it was my birthday yesterday and I got an email from Nintendo saying I'd get a discount on select games. I won't lie that I quivered a bit reading the "select" part. And pretty much as I predicted, I owned literally all of the games they were going to give me as a discount for my birthday. Nintendo needs to get smarter with these rewards, loyalty programs are pointless if not implemented very well.

Never got this game, I'll get it at some point down the line.

@rjejr "So we barely got enough games to justify the price, but I was expecting more than enough, so I wouldn't have to try and decide if we got enough or not when we'd reached this point."

Honestly, I feel like I had more than enough games on Wii U. Then again, I was in school for a good portion of the time it was considered "alive," and I'm in grad school now so Switch will (hopefully) have more than enough for people with more time on their hands to play than I do.